Use 100% Petroleum Jelly To Lubricate Canister Filter O-Rings , HOW TO Replace A Sunsun O-Ring
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- Use 100% Petroleum Jelly To Lubricate Canister Filter O-Rings , HOW TO Replace A Sunsun O-Ring
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It is time to replace and lubricate the o ring on the Sunsun HW-304B Canister Filter. Make sure that you only use 100% Petroleum Jelly.
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Not trying to be a troll but as a plumber, you should NEVER use petroleum based lubricants on rubber gaskets, o-rings. The petroleum will degrade and break down the rubber causing the same problem you are trying to fix. Only food grade silicon should be used on these gaskets. It does not cost much more than Vaseline and is what the manufacture recommends for these type of gaskets. A little goes a long ways. Over time petroleum based lubes hardens the gasket making it less pliable and less likely to seal properly. Another tip to try if your gasket is leaking and before replacing it, remove it, lube it and install it in the opposite way in which is was removed. In other words flip it over. This may stop the leak. Like I said I'm not trying to troll but just wanted to give out some information that someone may find helpful and hopefully prevent a disaster.
Thank you for sharing. Good info to know
Hmmm. And people like me come along and disagree. Sorry. But Magnum recommends using petroleum jelly on their cannister filter O rings. I've never ever had a problem with it hurting an O ring, my Magnum 330 cannister filter I bought in 1985 is still using the same original O ring. The motor eventually had to be replaced, but the O ring is still fine. I'm sure the food grade silicone is a step above, but Vaseline works fine in my experience.
Do you have a brand name for the food grade silicon?
Don’t listen to this man. Tired food grade silicone. Completely damaged my sansan had to get a replacement pump because when the silicone sealed it left a horrible residue where the o ring sat. The point of the petroleum jelly isn’t to stop leaks but to prevent the water from breaking down and cracking the O-ring. after multiple cleanings of your canister filter you have to purchase a new o ring if maintenance with petroleum jelly is not added. that is why the factory sends it coated with petroleum jelly not food-based silicone. Not here to be rude but to help people not make the mistake I made. Listen to the video not comments.
hERE IS A VERY GOOD ONLINE ARTICLE ABOUT USING PETROLEUM JELLY ON O-RINGS:
mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/25018/does-vaseline-dissolve-rubber
It spells out that O-Rings aren't actually made of Rubber, and as it says, about the middle of the page:
"You should have no worries about whether to utilize Vaseline on any of the o-rings. Vaseline is a very mild petroleum product. If it wasn't, we wouldn't use it in so many products which involve skin care. If o-rings were actually made of rubber, then there would be concern."
As always...another helpful canister filter tip from the pro!...more power Paul and thank you for being an inspiration for us fish keepers! Happy Holidays!
You’re welcome, thanks for watching.
Thanks,it’s really works my impeller & no more noise also
Thank you, this was very helpful 😊🐠
No problem Emily
U saved me getting a new filter thanks bro
Sweet!
Thanks a lot for this useful video. My canister filter leakage stopped with the help of petroleum gel... This will help lot of people.
Awesome. Having a backup O-ring is a good thing. eBay has them
Great tip Paul thank you I have the jelly in my diy kit I have also used it on my hob propellers and drive shift to keep them quieter
Very nice Man! That’s a great idea too. Thanks for watching
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience.
You bet Calvin, thanks for watching
thank you for sharing :) i will try it today :)
Cool, thanks for watching.
Awesome tip thank you so much for sharing it 👍👍💯💯
Thank you and you’re welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting
Good stuff. I've been doing this with my fx6 filters and will continue.
Thanks man. That’s awesome
The filter leaks because the o ring sits too deep in the groove. Put some ptfe tape in the groove and then put the ring on it, that will fix the leak.
You are great .. i make it and effective 100%.... thanks 👍👍👍
Fantastic!
Thank you very much for help me out
You are most welcome! Happy it worked #staytanked
Bro I Swear you Just Save My Canister filter !!! Thank You Sir
Sweet!
My filter started leaking on me last night..... hopefully this will work for me. I'm going to buy the o-ring tomorrow, an I pray this works...thanks for the info..
Hi Franklyn, I hope that it works for you as well. I have had mixed comments that the petroleum could harden the oring? It’s been ok for me so far.
How did it work for you?
Did this work
Don’t use it. Get food grade silicone lube.
Well Done
Thank you for this info, I was just thinking I should lubricate my Aquatop O-ring. My Aquatop / Sun Sun is probably the weakest link in my filter chain, when it goes it will be replaced with a new Eheim filter. The Eheim Pro 4 plus 600 just replaced another SunSun, wayyyyyyy better filter for a few more bucks !
Thanks for sharing. What is the price difference?? I am curious. Thanks for watching
Wow I’m going to use this advice now, cause I’m having a leakage as we speak.
Thanks
Welcome
Thank you. Mine just started leaking exactly like that
For all of those who do not agree with him have a look at the instruction manual it clearly says apply Vaseline to O-rings to reduce sound. So he is right although this was for leak problem
Thanks for watching and commenting Jay
It atleast gave a clue that the o-ring used could handle vaseline.
Must be non rubber based o-ring.
Actual real rubber degrades. Newer materials don't care
Never tried that. Knock on wood my fluvals never leaked. Speaking of that last time I used petroleum jelly I was probably 14. Lol. Good video man!
Lmao!
Dave Stines 😂😂😂😂
Hey Paul I also use it for the magnet on the propeller for my HOB sometimes that darn thing can be noisy and quiets it right now
That’s awesome, thanks for sharing
You made my day!!! I could not for the life of me figure out what the heck was going on with my sun sun?? so I will try this fix..First I have to find the oring! You did not mention where u get the orings?? please do tell. but as for now I will try online. Thanks for your video sir!!
Awesome! Glad it worked. I get the oring on ebay. Search sunsun (model number) oring. And you will find the right one for you.
@@inventoryking No IT DID NOT WORK!! ..I have spent all day working on 2 of the exact same model sun sun 304B's..How can they BOTH be broken and leaking like this?? I heard another guy said to loosen up the screws by the handles ..I have tried everything..I am about to trash both of these filters!! Im like the rest of the people who have wasted money ..You do get what u pay for ..I have another filter thatI paid a lot more money on.... is the same age running everday and Ive never had this problem with the leakage..what a piece of JUNK!!Your lil trick did not work sorry but I guess it does not work for everyone's filter..I think there are several different things going on here that could be making it leak..well water is POURING out on the sides..its more than a leak.
This has happened to me, once I replaced the motor oring it stopped pouring out the sides
It is work against leak,or plabing tab is best i confused.i don't have petroleum jelly or o ring
I was wondering if this was safe to do. Thx for the tip Paul.
my fish still alive when i use it, the brand i use is vaseline , dont use dodgy brand.
You bet man.
Dodgy? Is that a brand?
I also have the same problem.Can you please tell me the dimensions of this o ring so that i can buy a similar one,cause original is hard for me to find.
Bro my filter one clamp is broken I want to know it will work without one clamp with 2 hinges & clamp please let me know
I would be skeptical. You might be able to rig it until you get a replacement clamp.
What size o ring do sun sun canister takes mine is leaking and I'm wondering where and wat size to get
Paris, it depends on what filter you have. I suggest going to amazon and searching your filter and o ring, if not there try eBay.
I always thought petroleum jelly will make your o-ring dry out and crack. I use 100% silicone lubricant food grade used for scuba diving equipment. It last a long time and you don’t need to put that much, but like you said petroleum jelly is cheap. I guess its a thumbs up
Thanks for commenting. I appreciate your insight.
Agreed, petroleum products break down plastics over time. Use 100% silicone paste/jelly. I learned that from dive class too, ha. You can pick a small tub of it up at your local hardware store. The dive stores will rip you off.
Eric K I get mine cheap but petroleum jelly is still cheaper. Overall silicone lubricant will work efficiently than petroleum jelly.
just wondering how long did it last? curious because from what I know petroleum jelly degrades plastics and rubber.
Best to use a food grade brand lubricant instead of vascilne as vascilne degrades rubber.
Good advice. I think it's time for an o ring replacement on my two 302s that have been running 24/7 for 3 years.
Thanks.
That’s awesome that they lasted that long. Cheaper to replace then end up with water everywhere. That happened to me before. The filter stopped and the seal was bad, and probably 40 gallons of water leaked out through the filter. I was lucky it was in the fish room which is concrete
Would it be a good idea to lubricate the o-rings for hose valve connection?
With Aquarium safe Silicon, yes
@@inventoryking but not the Petroleum Jelly?
How long should I run my filter for a day? Also the uv lights (304b)
24/7 running. I don’t use the lights
Great video Paul. I do use the silicone lube due to the speculation around petroleum jelly deteriorating o rings. You can buy a small tube from a pool shop and it lasts a long time. I lube the o rings with every canister maintenance and I find it dosent dry out as much as the petroleum jelly.
Thanks for sharing that. It’s appreciated.
I have the exact same pump with the exact same problem
They have issues for sure. Did you get a new o ring? Always good to keep one on hand
My SunSun 302B was leaking a lot. I added plumbers tape around the O-ring area and it stopped the leak. After another cleaning, I ran out of tape so I tried vaseline and tested with the baskets empty. It worked ok for a few minutes. Then I added some media and closed it up and it started leaking again. This filter is hard to trust. You shouldn't need to jump through hoops to get it to work. My filter is only a year old. I regret buying it.
I have had my filter canister for 3 years today i cleaned it and for the first time it leaked. i will try the silicon first.
I hope that works. Do food grade
I have sun sun 304b's too going to order some new o rings don't want a puddle in my living room.
It’s definitely a good call! Thanks for stopping by dude
I love internet advice and comments. There is always a 50/50 split on opinions leaving the reader non the wiser.
If you are an old fish keeper Vaseline is fine , but need to remember all this companies want you to spend money.
plus Vaseline you can find anywhere.
Waiting on a response from eBay seller .......... couldn't find any spare parts for the SunSun 704b, don't know if the 304/404b parts are interchangeable . Will keep you posted !!
Ok
I'm a plumber, and can confirm that petroleum jelly aka Vaseline, is perfectly safe to use on rubber and silicone etc! Maybe the name is a little misleading, but it's not petrol or solvent based like fuel...the guy who invented it even ate a spoonful every morning, it's totally safe to use in fishtanks, and will help to form a perfect seal on jobs like this 👍
Thanks for watching and confirming! Much appreciated
I had a question,
I ordered the O ring via amazon but would rather just go into my local building supply store.
Do you know the diameter/size of the O ring? Please and thank you
Hi Stephen, I think it’s best to stick with the mfg oring. In my opinion
inventoryking i figured, I ordered it but I went to a local supply store and bought aquarium safe silicon and did what you instructed on the video and it seems to be working so we’ll see.
Where do you get the replacement O Ring?
check out eBay
Do you put containers around all your canister filters?
I don’t. But it might be a good idea to do so.
IT A GOOD IDEA JUST IN CASE.
Bro are you change New oring?
Unfortunately its not that o ring that causes this its the o rings on the quick release. The 2 that get pushed in to the top. You can either do this but best to add a layer of plumbers tape. Also its the water that escapes from that area it goes between the gap where the in out quick disconnect go in. the gap is between the black and white plastics. Myself i sealed those gaps now no leaks and the lid doesn't fill which would causes water to come out. You can unscrew 6 screws on the head and you will see what i mean the water has no where to go but out on to the floor
Hmm, if the o ring is rubber (which most are), then petroleum jelly is not advised because it will eat away at the rubber. Best to spend a few bucks on the silicone lubricant. If not, you'll have to spend money later on replacing the o ring.
where can i find these o-rings can you send the links
You can buy them on ebay. Sorry for the late reply.
Hey bro how do you know when you should? I think I should do this I never did maintenance on the o ring. Hey petroleum good for a lot more hehe
i applied mind every 6 months or when replace it with brand new one. I have it in my old eheim and i have to order it from ebay, while waiting, i apply this and somehow fix the leak, somehow there should be some material in that jelly making dry crack gasket to become soft and expand hence creating seal.
spidy278 thank you so much; I’ve got away with Nano maintenance in two years! I have to take the time and do it before problem! You rock man
When you do maintenance is what I would probably recommend. Thanks for watching bro
I forget to. But I need to start doing this at least 2 times a year
inventoryking thanks a lot bro’s
Link to where you bought the new O ring?
rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F252494779804
I just bought a tube of silicone grease off ofAmazon. I read petroleum breaks down rubber...
Yes it does.
Super Lube synthetic grease, non-toxic, non reactive. Petroleum based lube will destroy rubber and plastics.
The problem is when you take out the seal people stretch them and then when they are put back they may be twisted.
If you on a bind you can use teflon tape plumber tape.
Thanks for your feedback
Where do you put tape
Its hapend to me to my sunsun filters, the orings are cheap. Still love sunsun filters
Hi Vlad, they sure are cheap the o rings. I still like my filters. Thanks for watching
Why not tip some water out of the canister before putting the head back on.?... also useing PTFT tape on before putting the gasket back on helps as well
Thanks for the comment Paul
where did you get your o rings from.
Ebay
@@inventoryking do you have link where I can get them from.
www.ebay.com/itm/SUNSUN-CANISTER-O-RING-REPLACEMENT-HW302-303-304-402-403-404-702-703-704-602-603-/173297832631?var=&hash=item28595b12b7
have you had a problem that your intake not working but your output working? SunSun Cansiter Filter
silicone lubricant grease is the best type for rubber o-rings and seals. Most O-rings are made from synthetic rubbers. Namely: nitrile, EPDM and Neoprene. It is true that petroleum products will degrade natural rubber.
Surprised you didn't break your UV housing the way you man handled it lol
Lol
It looked like there was water in the light though
How long did the o-ring last?
It lasted like 2 years or so
I have a question for you. How do you clean your filter hose
Hey Cory, I run hot water through them and hold the ends shut with my hands and shake it back and forth. Or a bottle brush, it would have to be big.
inventoryking where can I get a big bottle brush from
You might want to check on amazon.
Please let me know how often need to clean water Filter
I don’t clean my filter nearly enough. 2 times a year maybe. I need to more often. But not too much. I don’t want my beneficial bacteria to die with too much cleaning.
inventoryking oh means after 6 months
I would say yeah.
When your water flows drops from your out put.
I tried but it was liking....
Think you can use aquafor instead of Vaseline? I'm 99.99% sure Aquafor is OK, just want to hear a what others think in case I'm being a knucklehead.
Food grade oring “silicon grease” are cheap on amazon. Safer long term and not “petroleum” aka “motor oil”
There must be o rings on inlet and outlet.
Sadtis didnt work. The oring is still circle & looks new.. leaking bad
Did not work for me..my canister started leaking more after replacing the O ring
Dang that sucks
if is not broken dont fix
my is leaking im going to try it waiting for parts
what can i used if not vaseline
Not sure, I have only used that. Did you order a replacement gasket?
Where can I buy a O-ring and impeller for the SunSun 704b ?
I bought my o-ring off of eBay. I assume you can get the impeller there as well
Waiting on a response from eBay seller .......... couldn't find any spare parts for the SunSun 704b, don't know if the 304/404b parts are interchangeable . Will keep you posted !!
Clean all of that off every time you clean your filter and DO NOT USE PETROLEUM JELLY or any other type of lube containing petroleum, unless the manufacturer of your particular filter recommends it. Fluval recommends silicon lube. You can buy a tube of food grade silicon lube off of Amazon for a couple of bucks. My refrigerator water filters come with silicon lube for the O-Ring. I always have some of this left over and use it to lube my o-rings on my Fluval 206. I use it to lube the O-Ring around the lid as well as the impeller shaft. There are also O-Rings on the Fluval AquaStop valve. I use what the manufacturer of my filter recommends, as should anybody else.
use teflon tape and o ring
Thanks for the tip
Also leaks if you don't place the trays properly don't put too much Media in them
Water in your UV cover glass ? That's a problem.
yes it is
Why In the world companies don't use a silicon gasket?? Or why don't they include a silicone lubricant?? Would that have been so much more expensive??
Great points!
Urnot ment to use that it drys out the orings over time your ment to use selicone gel or selicone oil or food grade selicone gel
He could have told us where to buy the o-ring.. But don’t buy the sun sun with the UV bulb cause that’s the one that leaks.. My sun sun doesn’t have the bulb and it’s been going 5 without a single leak.
You should never use petroleum jelly on seals that’s why they make a silicon sealant made special for them the seal will swell and deteriorate over time
its going to do that anyway LOL
Lol, the UV lamp is full of water!
A huge manufacturing fault on this filter.
Petroleum is a no no. Silicone lubricant is not expensive and safer.
Didn't work ... Leakage is must faster
This is wrong. You make sure to rinse EVERYTHING before it goes in the tank, but then put grease in it? Why would you put grease in your fish tank? Restaurant supply stores should have food grade silicone lubricant, or home brew stores. Furthermore, you acknowledge that you may be incorrect in the comment section but leave your video up?? Save money?? That’s laughable. You might save $4 on the product that you use on a $12 O-ring on a $300 filter on a $1,000 tank, with $500 worth of stock in it. That makes sense! By the way, a tube of silicone will last you probably 20 years.
just buy a new seal what 5 bucks ?
always good to have a spare on hand
inventoryking actually replaced my filter last night power cut 2 nights in a row don’t this type of filter much now
not work
This is vaseline?
Never lubricate an o ring without understanding the composite material of the o-ring. There is no simple answer other than the mfg needs to tell you what the o-ring lubricant is. YOU cannot know for sure by looking at it. I am in an industry that uses both types of o-rings and you cannot know unless the material is identified. Using a petroleum based or silicon based lubricant on the wrong material will have terrible consequences. O-rings will either fall apart or swell up depending on the wrong product used. Ask the mfg what they recommend.
most canister filter manufacturer prefer that o ring to be called gasket, .......just to share knowledge. Sometimes terms quite confusing
spidy278 mayo or mayonnaise; o-ring or gasket. Most hobbyists refer as oring is just a better explanation of gasket. They make we use we understand. Good job at catching on. Just don’t call it a gasket if you do a video I will think your talking about my old 96 Chevrolet Corsica lol “Head gasket problem every year”
LOL yeah, when i first do research, i google it under canister filter motor o ring but what came up is not canister head ring seal but small o ring seal that normally goes on the canister filter tap, then i found out that should be called gasket LOL....
spidy278 haha you’re so right 😅😅😆😂
Thanks. Yeah gasket is right too.
Lol
DO NOT USE A PETROLEUM BASED PRODUCT ON O-RINGS. USE A FOOD SAFE SILICONE GREASE INSTEAD.
bad advice. You should be using silicone o-ring lubricant because petroleum products like petroleum jelly will over time cause deterioration of the o-ring, causing failure.
I see the person below me said the same thing. LOL. well I'm saying the same thing. Its better to spend the extra $$ and just get the silicone - lubricant for o-rings.
deterioration is going to happen anyway.
First of all don't buy a cheap POS SunSun....
Remove this video pls it will destroy peoples canisters!!