Whetstones of Indonesia - Natural whetstones
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2023
- Proud to introduce something different. Natural whetstones from Indonesia. Very inexpensive. Something new and feels good. The grain structure is really even and the higher grits get very soft. Interesting to use. Very easy to use. You see that the knife gets extremely sharp. Only needing to go up to the 3000, but we go beyond. We go up to the 7000 grit. Smaller in size than what I'm used to. Don't seem to wear out very easily. Only time will tell. I have included a link for someone who sells these stones out of that country. We look forward to trying polishing with them soon. I do think that will be successful. They start at 400 grit, then to 700 grit and progressively get finer: 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 6000, 7000. Get yours and have some fun. Something new. Very reminiscent of Japanese natural stones but they aren't as hard. There are many pros and cons to that of course. And it doesn't cost a lot to get into these. If you've tried the rest then try something different. I am wearing the Nick Kennedy t-shirt. He's such an icon and we're happy to be selling a shirt doing tribute to him. Get yours today.
Price for 8 types of stones. US $170 does not include shipping costs.
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This thing is dirt cheap, I got a whetstone from Bogor (one of the whetstone manufacture city) and it cost me 3 bucks with the size of a brick. Good stuff.
Very informative. Thanks to your wife for the great video production and giving you some screen direction and colour commentary.
Are you interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
Another awesome video. Thank you for all of the information. You have been a tremendous help with learning things related to compounds, strops and sharpening.
Glad to help! Thank you.
Aha, I feel lucky to be Indonesian. Here you can get it all for less than 35 dollars.
The stones you have come from the Bogor area. There is another type of stone, novaculite stone from the Pacitan area.
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Thank you, I will. I appreciate you. Sorry to get back so late.
As I was born Indonesian, I was interested in trying out these Indonesian Natural Stones myself. But didn't get to it yet, because I do not need to invest in more stones (I already have all the stones I need to sharpen my knives, and then some). So thank you for this video! And also: NICK KENNEDY!!!
Hey buddy, I didn't know that. You look like you're doing well. The stones are pretty expensive and hell yeah Nick Kennedy.
I polished my Shindo funayuki as well. I used wet/dry sandpaper.
That's awesome!
Nice, something a little different by the looks of it. Got a mate over there atm might see if he can hunt a couple down for me.
A little different and it expensive to get into it so it's pretty fun
I'm also one of those people that just hate anything smaller than "normal" about 3" wide stones. I have a few smaller ones but I just never use them. I'm also happy to pay more if it takes that.
Hello Mr
I mean people need to get over that. It makes sense and I am used to what I'm used to but I have learned that you can do it.
thank you for the showcase of these interesting stones! i would have loved to see a leather strop used at the end. when do we get a whetstone war natural Indonesian stone vs. the myriad stones on that counter?
Hello mr 🙏
Are you interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
@@naturalwhetstone8100 I'm interested in any whetstone that does good work
Are you interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
I love those stones. More durable than a Chinese bench grinder wheel.
Are you interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
the black stone is the best one.
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Yes sir I'll have to check it out. I'm still messing around with the other ones but I want to see how they do polishing.
Wish I could grab them from EU. Doesnt seem like Indonesia is exporting them.
Are you interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?
Hello Mr ?
May I argue tip down on that pocket knife is wrong 😂
Hello mr
You can say whatever you want. I don't know what you're referring to. I apologize it taking a couple weeks to get to you. I think I was just opening the packages and maybe you're making a comment on that. Apologize if I did something wrong, but I do appreciate your comments. You're more than welcome to teach me. I can listen or not but I don't mind the comment. We are all grown up and hopefully we don't get our feelings are.
@@nadm no sorry I was just making a joke 😂 based on the pocket clip on your pocket knife tip up vs tip down
@@quinnpickard5899 Thank you sir. I didn’t understand. I do need to change that on there because it’s not on there the way I would like to have it.
I don't get peoples obsession with "flattening" stones, yet that obsession doesn't transfer to their sharpening on them. Where I worked, using just the centre of the stone was frowned upon, and we only had cheap Norton fine SC stones.
I get they are your stones, but teaching people to use just the centre will make those that follow poorer and the stone manufacturers a lot of money.
I wasn’t trying to tell someone to use the middle, so I hope you didn’t get that out of the video. I don’t believe in using the middle. I don’t say that in any of my other videos, so if that somehow came across from this video and I apologize. We use the entire stone. I always use the entire stone. We do make sure that they’re flat so that way we don’t end up making scratch marks too high up on the bevel or the flat service of the knife. We always want to see what type of quality we get from someone so that’s why we were doing that in this video.
@@nadm First, I would like to say, I like and appreciate the content you make. I don't have a traditional Japanese knife, mainly because of cost, my main interest is stones, just so you know why I don't like seeing them being wasted, especially natural ones, as most aren't being mined anymore.
To your reply.
I beg to differ, the reason I posted that comment, was because every video I watched from this channel, has the, I am assuming you, using the centre 3-4 inches. In the beginning I just let it ride, but after watching quite a few videos it got the better of me, sorry for my intolerance.
I know you weren't telling anyone to copy you, but newbies are like children, they copy what they see, from people they admire, that's why popular channels are called influencers.
A concave stone will make a convex
edge-grind, the degree to which it does, depends on how concave the stone is.
On a flat grind (depending how big it is), a bent stone will mainly contact the edge and the top of the grind higher up the blade, it won't make scratches higher than that, but it will push the grind higher, quicker than usual, it will also wear the edge out quicker, until you get the knife grind to match the stones concave shape. The edge will be convex pretty much straight away. It does this, because it mainly contacts those two places. You do eventually start having contact across the whole grind, cos you have changed the grind from a flat grind, to a convex one.
There is nothing wrong with a convex edge, in fact I like it better for general purpose use.
I do flatten my stones, but also use the ends for repair work, cos even when you use the whole stone, you can't stop it from getting dished.
Again, sorry for my intolerance and also this long reply.
Thanks.
@@markcahoon2534 Freehand sharpening knives will result in a convex edge regardless of the flatness of the stone. No matter how good you are...the human body simply cannot keep the exact same knife angle throughout the sharpening process...which ultimately results in the bevel being convex. That being said...I always grind large flat bevels into all my Japanese knives. That way I can feel when the bevel is flat on the stone...and am constantly thinning the knife behind the edge at the same rate that I'm removing metal from the edge. This keeps the knife from ever becoming too thick as it gets smaller over repeated sharpening. This method also has the added benefit of wearing the stones quite evenly across their face...requiring much less flattening and therefore waste.
@@Master...deBater I don't get your ''de-bater'', I didn't say anything about what type of grind could be sharpened free hand, but I have seen people do a respectable job sharpening all sorts of grinds freehand, you said yourself, that you do.
What you are saying, is like saying an artist can't draw a straight line, or make realistic drawings or statues, also one of the skills a machinist had to learn, was to file a perfectly flat surface. Just because you or I can't do it, doesn't mean it's not possible.
What I said was trying to say was, using a bent stone results in a convex edge, cos it's virtually impossible to keep a constant angle on a stone that has a hill up each end, where you would have to progressively change the angle, to match the climb and fall of each end of the stone, and even then, it would still be convex. Even if you used a jig (guided system), you would still end up with a convex edge if the stone wasn't flat.
You can do a respectable job on all grinds with a flat stone, sure it won't be as precise as jigged system, but people got by before all these guided systems were around.
The method you use for sharpening
Japanese knives was the standard procedure where I worked, and I would assume most professional places would be the same, the only difference being, we used convex edges, as no one ever flattened the stones, and by the time they broke from getting too thin, they were quite bent. We also had to hold the stone in one hand and sharpen with the other, as the boss was a miserable prick.
The only flat stones we used, were the brand-new ones, and that didn't last long.
@@markcahoon2534 Yeah...I must say my point was less than concise! I guess I was responding to your statement: "I don't get peoples obsession with "flattening" stones, yet that obsession doesn't transfer to their sharpening on them". My point is that a perfectly flat stone is very beneficial to my style of sharpening wide flat bevels. Much like sharpening straight razors...wide beveled knives require flat stones because much more of the blade is in contact with the stone than simply the apex and a millimeter of bevel. I don't know if you've ever sharpened a Yanagi...but sharpening one on anything short of a perfectly flat stone would result in a terrible edge and a completely messed up shinogi line. Knives with bevels up to a centimeter wide require absolutely flat stones. I completely agree that European style knives with thin bevels don't require a particularly flat stone because so little of the steel is actually in contact with the stone at any one time. However other types certainly do...including most Japanese style knives, including yanagi, deba, honesuki etc...as well as virtually all straight razors and kamisori razors.
stupid stones are too slow and incapable of sharpening anything above 60hrc within reasonable time
you're the only one who can't sharpen it
The Indonesians are sharpening their golok (machete ) until it slices plastic bags.
Their goloks are hard enough to chop bamboos.
@@woodlander9739 their goloks aren't even close to anything to 60hrc. They're mostly made with leaf spring. Come back to me if u have the right rebuttal.
@@naturalwhetstone8100 and your grandma can?
Sounds like a shit sharpener making squeaky noises there