Scag Tiger Cat 2 61in 26hp Kawasaki FT730v EFI REVIEW (not good)
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I would feel really stupid if I bought a mower and I didn’t like this many features on it. Good luck
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Although I hear and see your frustration, I actually liked this video. You definitely bring up a lot of valid points. Dealers and Manufacturers really need to offer more demos for potential customers to test. Especially the big ticket machines.
Yea that is for sure. i can understand giving the current conditions as to why there might not be any, but to outright not offer it at all is a bit ridiculous. the dealer i bought the scag from dont even carry demos/loaners because when they used to, one never came back from the field. so their insurance wont allow it no longer
Man I feel you on nearly all these points. The oil filter blew my mind for a 13, mower. Beats the hell out of my old dixon. I'm just a home owner mowing about 4acres mine does seem to cut good. The seat to me is amazing but I'm comparing it to a 97 dixon. I picked mine up mostly for my dealer. Love the service department. I started mowing mine with the deck almost all the way up 3 years later and man it's seemed to really choke out the crab grass. I really enjoy mine. Had to buy mine during covid when you couldn't get anything. Delivered 2 tiger cats one cheetah and 1 turf tiger when I got there Friday after qork the tiger cat 2 with the kawasaki was all that was left. Was going for the vanguard. Overall I'm happy runs and starts really good. Changing the oil does piss me off.
I think if I could have gotten the 32 vanguard I would have liked the mower more but my biggest point I didn't like was the fact that it rared up too easy on hills for me. I think the main problem with the cut quality was just the lack of horsepower but I don't know for sure. I've tried skaggs multiple times and never have like them I just don't think they're brand for me
Yea that's what I thought too the scags always look tight to me I'm a big dude too but plenty of room on the deeres plus I have a bunch of deere dealers close so easy to get service
Yes closest dealer to me is a Deere too
I run a 61" Spartan with the carbureted FT730V and it' has performed well for me. It does have a Parker drive system, which according to my dealer makes better use of the hp of the engine. Less hp needed to drive and more hp to the blades.
if its transaxles instead of pump and motors like the scag i had was, they do take less hp to run. i have a spartan now as well that i need to make a vid about. i got a stander with the 37hp big block vanguard
Good points. I have an old Super Z 52 that came with a property I bought a year or two ago. I've gone through it top to bottom and have never been able to get cut quality good. Mechanically runs like new, but cannot cut grass, even with the deck level, or 1/4" pitched with new blades. Double cutting a few acres has put me on the market for a new 60". I can't imagine the same 22HP on a 60" deck. And for the same money (+/- $500) cross shopping a Kubota, which comes with a larger fuel tank and 29.5HP EFI engine. Your point about the long bolts when changing blades was spot on. I had my Super Z 52 in the garage today putting yet again, new blades on it in an attempt to get an 'ok' cut and what a pain with the long bolts.
Its odd how some mowers are like that. I think mine was just a lemon idk. ive never seen a mower that would leave stragglers like that one would for no apparent reason. I have experience with Kubota mowers and me and a local buddy of mine have the same conclusion: they clump more than some brands. depends on how you mow exactly. if you abide by the 1/3rd rule of only cutting 1/3 of the grass, they probably would be fine. and for a personal use mower the 29.5 efi would be great. I have been impressed with my 27hp on my new deere but i want more power lol
What year is your Super Z?
@@cleangreenlawnservicellc2630 Circa 2000 from what I pieced together talking to the neighbors. I ended up with a Kubota Z781 54". Night and day difference on cut quality. And, having 29.5HP, EFI and a modern seat... world of a difference. Plus the fuel economy per cut is a lot better.
@@jasonbaker6898 I'm not sure what deck they had back then. I have a 07 Super Z with the XR7 deck, and it cuts great.
I have the 52 inch version of this mower. I happen to agree with you in terms of the power… It could use more power. Tends to bog down in tall thick grass however other than that I love this thing. My dealer does all my maintenance so I don’t have to deal with many of the issues you have encountered as far as service but other than that it gives a beautiful cut, it’s fast and I’m not a big guy so don’t have many of the issues you mentioned. Haven’t even encountered the problems with fueling and the rollbar getting in the way. Maybe it’s the angle I fuel at. With that said there’s a mower for everyone. Hope you find one that suits your needs. Nothing worse than spending the kind of money these mowers cost and not be happy.
A local guy had the 52in and didnt like it that much either. he sold it and got a second Patriot he says they are better balanced and cut as good if not better than the TC2. If they would put a bit bigger engine on them i might would look at them but id say overall im done with scag. Do you fuel with jugs or mainly at a station? I bought a battery powered transfer pump to siphon the gas out of the scag before taking it back and i love that thing most of the time now i just use it to fill up my mowers lol. if i know a full jug will fit in the tank i just set the pump on cruise control and do other things for a minute or two while it runs lmao
thing is, all of the scag dealers around me are 30+ minutes away. the one i bought the scag from was 2.5 hours away because they were the only one at the time that had a 61in tc2 in stock and i needed a mower asap
My rule of thumb is you need roughly 1/2 the horsepower of the deck size. So 61” needs about 30 ish. Your engine should work well in a 52” deck
Already a friend here, sorry I missed some of your videos, watching now! lol been really busy, trying to catch up. I have never tried a SCAG, but I really want to, I believe its the Turf Tiger - Triple cutting sucks dude!
i doubt ill ever try another scag. i didnt like the one i demoed and certainly didnt like the one i bought. im so glad its gone
@@BioHazardra I would hopefully be able to demo one
I have one just like yours and mine is just fine and I don't need some 30 something horsepower just so I can spend more on fuel. And it seems that many of your dislikes are minor all brands have issues we would find something we don't like. Great mower and the cut is fantastic.
And it sounds to me like you must not run a lawn care business. From my machine that I no longer have now I sold it for whatever reason it cut terribly left stragglers everywhere. I believe the main reason was not enough power you need more power to be able to mow at a decent speed especially when cutting bi-weekly lawns
I am with you on the power deal man, and I have been hesitant on the FT motors. Despite thinking it could have a little more power, the Z920M 54" with the FX730 has been a tank. I wish it maybe had the FX801 or 850, but it has basically been a bulletproof engine. I would like to see a 960M with a FX1000 on it, that would be sweet. I think the biggest engine on a Ztrak is the FX921 (31hp I think), which is good. I have demoed 1 SCAG mower, the VRide2 a while back and it was a good machine but it was before they put the 37hp Vanguard on them, so it had the 730 Kawasaki on it. I hate the park brake kill feature...it was on the Toro Titan I had and hated it with a passion. Like you said, why do you need it, if you dont release the brake, the mower aint gonna move 🤷♂️. I love my 920M, it has 1450hrs on it now and still gets it done, the Quiktrak has been a fun machine but it still isn't 100% in my opinion. I just can't let it sit and sit until it is though, so as long as it does good enough, i will keep trying to tweak it and get it right. I have forgot, but what was your other Deere doing? Keep grinding buddy!!!
the z970r has a gas engine and is 35hp so its the biggest gasser deere offers. i think the engine options should be this: z930 - 27hp, z950 - 31hp, z960 - 35hp, and z970 - 38hp. i dont know what it is about scag every one of them is uncomfortable to me. ive rode around on a vride and didnt like it compared to a Wright. i have no idea why i bought the scag.. never again thats for sure. i just hope i can get most of my money back out of it.
my z915e would sometimes run fine for a while, or sometimes start right off the bat: surging really badly. dying completely out at times. its been at the local dealer for a month. took them 2-3 weeks before they even looked at it. they cant figure it out yet and are bout to open a JD Techical Case ticket or something like that on it. probably gunna cost me a pretty penny
Good points, but did you test drive the mower before buying? Seems like you bought with a blind fold on. Good luck seems like you didnt do much research.
It’s a damn shame dealers don’t have demos, you would think they would be 2-3 demos at each dealer, I told my dealer I wasn’t going to buy anything I couldn’t demo, I demoed the Exmark Starris and didn’t like it, that’s when I demoed the gravely and liked it, I hate to know I spent $10k plus on that Exmark and stuck with it, things will work out, just have to ride the waves of aggravation !
i was stressed and desperate too. see, when i got the scag, looking back, i bet anything i wouldnt have gotten financing. its just been in the last few days my credit score finally started showing up on Experian so i bet before then, i still "didnt" have a credit score. which i did, through equifax but it dont make a damn for some reason. ive now got a FICO and experian score though
Dam that sucks man. My Grandstand is 22hp but to me has plenty of power and the EFI is 25hp and my delaer said the EFI uses way more gas. I hope everything works out for you. Atleast the dealer is gonna take it back for you. 👍🏼
sorry man just now seen this. really uses way more? i figured efi would be as good or better on fuel. well, i kind of thought the scag i had was a little rough on fuel but it had smaller overall capacity too. i got it sold and took a bit but not as bad i dont think as if i had sold it myself
@@BioHazardra did you pick up something else?
@@TheLawnFellas yea i financed a new Deere. im not happy with how the deal went tho and itll be the last new deere mower ill ever buy. i need to make a video about it
@@BioHazardra I will have to check that one out 👍🏼
Your only two valid points are engine size and spindles....everything else is issues you have...not the mower. Scag makes great mowers
Your opinion
Yours are all opinions as well@@BioHazardra
Only buy FX Kawasaki's carburetor models, EFI are too much trouble and please use non-ethanol gas for trouble free operation.
Kubota Z726XKW-3-60 , it would be the last mower you ever buy. FX850 with parker pumps.
I wouldn't mind trying to Kubota my only issue with Kubota is the cut washers they use to hold the blades on the washers wear out and then your blade spin
@@BioHazardra It takes a long time to wear out the cupped washers. I've got 500 hours on a ZG227 and they're still good. I've got a 100 hours on a Z412 and they're still good. I'm pretty sure it's the only brand I'll keep buying..Try a 700 series I think you'll like it. My buddy has the new 726 I listed above, it's a beast. Def gonna be my next Kubota.
@@John_D2 at my full time job they run Kubota and seem to go through washers at least once a year. If I could demo one I'd like to
@@BioHazardra They're probably over torquing the hell out of them with the impact..They are only supposed to be at like 75-80 ft lbs..Hope everything works out for ya ,brudda.
What did you pay for the tiger cat?
$10700
Wow! 11.3 now@@BioHazardra
Man U just cutting grass not driving it to work
Omg triple cutting that is crazy. I agree pull the handles in and it kills the motor that is stupid. That is a big Allen wrench key and your right not many people have a wrench that big. That shut off valve is all the way back there and the roll bar is ridiculous trying to fill the tank. That oil filter is hard to get to. I can see why your not happy with it cause I know I wouldn't be either. Oh I thought it had a carburetor on it. You would think it would be. Your right everyone has a favorite. A month is a long time they had your John Deere. That's not a bad for 6 years. Great review David.
Thanks Bill. the dealer wasnt to happy with the condition the mower was in when i took it back down there today. i mean.. ill pay them to clean it up and do the work on it because im just done with the POS i didnt even want to touch it or waste water trying to wash it. they can do it. if i got to pay out a couple more 100 to gain back multiple thousand then so be it. as long as im shed of it
@@BioHazardra Your very welcome David. I don't blame you for not wanting to even touch it and waste water. That's right they can do it as many problems it gave you brother.
I’ve heard good things about Ferris
ive used a snapper pro which is the same thing and liked it
I have never tried a Ferris, but I would be interested in trying one for sure. I have not seen very many Ferris units here in MN
@@MyGreenLawn2019 I hear that Ferris is more likely to scalp and dig into the ground due to the suspension which I could see that. But I hear they ride very well overall. I would love to try one I have used a snapper pro which is the same thing just without suspension and liked it
They won't cut tall wet grass.
@@larrysettle5620 really I heard opposite that they are better in wet grass than other mowers
I don't know why you not gone viral on your gripping videos I love em.i get pessed off with you,,, lol. Get red of it. Get you a Husqvarna z500.
lol i have a couple i sent today as facebook messages to Gorilla and a couple other friends. if you enjoy this youd love those id send them to you if i could find you on FB lmao. thing about husqvarna and redmax mowers is there are so few dealers around here. id love to try one. came very close to buying a used one but it sold
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That's for sure
LOL - LAWN 1! lol I do own the John Deere 354X and the John Deere S240, love them both! I also own Toro, Gravely and a 21 inch Honda! lol
@@MyGreenLawn2019 they are all good mowers I've used them all lol lol lol
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