Paid Setups vs Free Setups On F1 23
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- I compare free setups from the time trial leaderboards, as well as from an AI chatbot with setups that you have to pay for - which one is better?
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Imagine paying for a codemasters game setups lol
It's partnered with EA the last couple of years what do you expect.
@@RyanP1991 you don’t pay EA for the setup. You oh a setup shop… you don’t seem to understand.
my first thought
You missed the point. @@RyanP1991
Fucking hilarious.
"Look for someone that you don't think is hacking or cheating" , picks Weigang's setup over Ronhaar's. Love it !
Weigang higher up ☠️
Haha I commented something similar and then scrolled down and saw yours 😂😂😂 great minds think alike!
The fact good setups are now behind pay walls just shows to me that we are going backwards when it comes to accessibility.
I mean Alex literally just made a video showing there is not much difference so I don't think it's a big deal at all
If you are mad about paying for setups, just learn how to setup a car and test it yourself.
This isn’t a pay wall. EA and Codies don’t enforce any sort of payment for setups, you can easily learn the game and adjust setups yourself. This is “simracing” websites tricking casuals into thinking they need to pay for a setup.
No-one is preventing you from putting your time and effort into making your own personal setups.
@@HenrlkAndersen yeah because I have all the time in the world to do that. I'll just forget life commitments 👍
the paid setups are 5EUR/track and 75 EUR for all tracks like bro I ain't paying my sallary for 0,2% tirewear and 0,06 seconds faster lap💀
in reality you are paying for confidience in yourself
@@mirkmusicyt you can be confident with any setup tbh, and noone is saying that their setup will match your driving style
so dont buy them? no ones got a gun to ur head
@@shigou6083 i am not buying them, i am just saying it feels overpriced lmao
That’s worth it to some people I guess
"all you do is you go to the timetrial leaderboards, you scroll to the very top and you have a look for someone that you don't think is hacking or cheating"
*scrolls past Ronhaar*
That's what I have been doing for years, but I adjust the set up a little to account for a race's length.
I better be receiving Jarno Opmeer's setup when I exchange that with my cash.
Even his setups are free😂
@@carter898 no?
Paid setups are a scam, You have to make your own setup tailored to your needs not everybody drives the same and everyone likes a different feel.
I have used SRC setups for the last 3 years now. I don't just blindly chuck the setups on my car and race, I test them in tt and tweak them a little to my liking. Some setups require no changes, some need a little bit more rear, etc... They're a very good baseline.
I've just gone over and got these setups as I don't have the available time to build my own. Couple tweeks here and there and they are good to go
@@Rampage9292 umm so we can find src setups in tt? im pretty sure its illegal to leak them in tt
@@kapa2909 thats why you don't go faster than your PB, if you do go faster you can brake right before the line🙂
@@Rampage9292Would invalidating lap by track limits or whatever still leak the setup?
It would be interesting to see the difference over a full / 50% race.
It's more important to have a good setup in the race, and TT setups tend to be better in quali than in the race (which is pretty self explanatory) but I'm gonna be honest, the difference really isn't big enough to justify paying money for them. The only thing that has to be changed on some tracks is the tire pressures bc the TT ones are sometimes a bit too high bc tire Temps don't matter there
Go to TT, get setup.
Go to practice, adjust as needed for high fuel running.
Do 50%gp and make sure you can actually fight and overtake
setups behind a paywall is wild
A normal person would never use them
I think it's worth experimenting with a few of the faster TT setups and ideally find a single top driver who's setups work well for you. I found some didn't work well for me due to different driving styles (e.g. I found I couldn't drive Jarno's very well) whereas I find Otis Lawrence's setups consistently work really well me. And I think this is one of the problems with paid setups, they assume your driving style is the same as the person who created it. This may or may not suit you. Also, if you're a few seconds off their fastest time, it may not be a good match for you and you might want something with more stability.
Note; I tend to increase the brake bias with Otis's setups as I find 50% (which he often has) is too oversteery for me when braking into slow corners. I normally use 53%. If you're using ABS, that shouldn't be a problem.
It makes lots of sense the payed has better tire wear it’s a time trial setup it doesn’t care at all for the tire wear
Pretty much this. You don't care about stability and tire management in TT and that's why, whilst TT setups are pretty decent in quali, they lack a bit more in the race. But I'm gonna be honest, it really isn't a big difference and if you kinda understand what setting does what then it's pretty simple to fix the main issues of them
What’s the point of a paying for a good setup if you’re not going to use it to set a good lap in time trial?
But did you adjust the tt pressures for tyre wear? I would like to see a more detailed video on that, maybe comparing it during a whole Stint and making simple Personal changes like pressures and wings to tt setup, even tho i realiseyou might waste a lot of time doing that
More or less tyre pressure?
@@MNascimento67
Less!
Higher pressure - higher temp - higher deg
imagine paying for a setup lol. i really enjoy your content because you're realistic and not too deep into the whole gaming/community scene.
If you are paying for Setups you've already lost
No way these setups havent leaked somewhere
I tried a couple paid setups from SRC and in a 50% race it made a huge difference. You get a ton of info also. If you league race and want to understand setups better SRC helps alot
Yes but this is just time trial most people do 50% races in leagues so wich one is better for the race
Adjust them a little. That's what I do.
TT setup is always good, but the issue is straight line speed and ERS management. TT setup is usually with more downforce. You will in many times be a sitting duck on the straight. ERS management is not good as well due to the effect of drag.
But for quali, yes, TT setup is pretty decent online as well. Maybe only change tire pressure.
But when you take wings out, it changes the entire setup (suspension, car height, toe, diff..) to try to generate turning, dood tyre deg with less wings.
In general, to play againist Ai, i agree TT setup is nice. But play online in leagues is a different story for the majority of the circuits.
Notice how he didn’t pick Ronhaars TT setup when choosing from those who he believes are not hacking 👀😂
I love SRC setups. I’m not the best driver but I have full confidence to push flat out with the setups with no fear of losing the car.
Why would you pay for setups man. You can find free good ones
@@TK-4044v they’re only like $50 plus they are constantly modifying and improving them.
@@built2jzlexus496 I don't know how much that is in € but it's expensive for setups
@@built2jzlexus496that's the price of the game.... For a free feature that people are sharing online for free. You can literally teach yourself how to setup a car using CZcams and an houra free time
@@built2jzlexus496only 50 dollars hahahahaha its not worth 1 fucking penny
The SRC setups are really good and worth the money. Would I ever purchase one though? Absolutely not.
So this is why you joined SRC the other day... nice
What is that telemetry thing he uses where you can see the brake and throttle line
A mod
Why hasn’t anyone made a video showing the effects of what* each variable does on track? I’m willing to bet that video would reach trillions of subscribers.
Especially with now the 0-50 ride and 0-50 wings,setups are even more important i think
Could you make a video about the engine in this game and how different temperatures act upon the performance of it?
Question are the paid setups like the best in consteincey to what the car will give you because we all have different driving styles, Exp and skills so would it make much difference?
If you are willing to pay money for a setup, please be willing to adjust a time trial setup according to your needs and spend time to fine tune it
i tried a ia chat gpt setup but setup is personal, ia cannot drive as a human! i have a question ! where i can download TELEMETRY tools in your tutorials ?
Tried downloading a TT setup & that option is not available to me. Is it available on console or is it PC only?
What discords are there where you can buy setups from the pro esports drivers ?
And they're still 5 seconds off WR pace lol.
amazing content as usual
I did ask David for the meta. First time he has never replied to me 😂
Love these kind of videos
Imagine paying for a setup 💀
Buying a setup is the same as iRacing selling tokens that move you up 5 positions on the grid and give you a 0.05% speed boost.
That's the effects you get from them. Everyone would lose their shit if iRacing offered tokens like this, but buying tokens in the shape of a setup is totally cool.
Iracing has a lame community.
Anyway im pretty sure the ai setup is from simracingsetup video
Paying for setups in an arcade game is hilarious, especially when you can just go to time trial and copy the esports ones.
Esports people do not use their setups in time trial, they use solely TT setups for it that they wouldn’t use in the race
@@Carsey-lf5my And my question is. Are any eSports drivers behind those websites that offer paid setups? If the answer is no, there is literally no reason to buy those setups
Many are, yes.@@Marcelitus230
@@Carsey-lf5my Right but if you have any racing knowledge whatsoever adjusting them for better tire wear and drivability is very simple.
Also it’s an F1 game, spending money for Iracing or ACC makes sense but an arcade game where setups aren’t even that important is laughable.
Sim-cade not arcade, it has elements pf both
are time trial setups good for races?
As if you'd pay for a setup. They're all over the net.
yeah + not even too hard to make yourself
You do realise you can tell the AI to give you a setup for front and rear from 1-50 yeah?
Great video mate.
what the hell is paid setups? I had no idea this was even a thing who would pay for some options to input into the game when its free and anyone can do it?
Well see you have got it wrong again Alex there many sites that provide free setups for F1 23. I personally know of very site that walks you through the setup for each track as well race strategy. Yes there some sites that you have to pay for and have nothing wrong with using them if I had. The very fact that people pay or use pay for setups is because there is with most people on who share their setup they only show few seconds of it at end of video with know explanation on how to adjust it to your own individual driving style. There are as well Discord servers that provide nothing but useless information on setups.
So yes I can see why people would pay for race setups and have no issues with this in fact if people are able to pay for not just setups but coaching as I say good on them.
someone should buy the setup and then post if for everyone to see. Paid setups are a ridiculous idea.
No No NO, i understand why you make this video and that it is a thing that happens. But you promoting these setups is horible, even if you dont directly promote them.
I see in this video you did 5 Laps wow
And please correct me if I am wrong but you used a chat bot to get a setup, so I those chat bot you have to pay for so technically you payed for a setup.
interesting video
EA should end paid setups, paid mods for any game is cringe. they should rely on donations
To the people that consider paid setups, don't. It's a scam. Just use the Time trial setups and lower the tyre pressures when needs. The SRC setups are mostly pure ass anyway
I get the paid setup for others sim but f1? Nah
But in the end you used a payed setup but wait you can not revel were from.
You need help.
Didnt complete the lap. lol. wtf
The low downforce will help you through the corners
It will help you on the easily flat-out ones 😂😂 You know since you have less drag
paying for these is insane, i would understand in real life racing but for simulation...damn.
People are really out here paying for setups?
F1 23 pay to win confirmed.
Huh ? How so ? The only Thing U rly Need Pay for IS the podium Pass and they skins n what Not but U ain't forced to Pay for it If U don't want to, so basically Ur Just Trash talking a Game with No real clue what Ur talkin about... So maybe idk Just shut Up n Research before opening Ur mouth ...
SOMEONE THAT YOU DONT THINK IS HACKING AND CHEATING AND SHOWS THOMAS RONHAAR 😭😭😭😭😭
I stop playing f1 games for 6 months and they start charging money for set ups? WHAT?!
not ea nor coddies who sold them, its 3rd party
paid setups huh... oh how EA loves to ruin good games...
cringe