TOP SET BACK OFF SET DONE RIGHT | John Jewett & Luke Miller | J3U Podcast Episode 74

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • In this episode of the J3U Podcast, John & Luke tackle the topic of the infamous top set/back off set structure of programming. We look at what the science says, and also what the real-life experience argues in regard to this topic, as well as how you can consider this structure for your own training.
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    Time Stamps:
    Intro 00:00
    Chasing Numbers 01:44
    Positives/Negatives 06:16
    Maximizing the Stimulus 15:21
    Rep Range Choices 20:15
    Where Does it Fit? 25:08
    Closing Thoughts 33:49
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Komentáře • 28

  • @workingdog4886
    @workingdog4886 Před rokem +6

    I Really look forward to these! Thanks for all the great info!

  • @89jmcfar
    @89jmcfar Před rokem +3

    You guys are doing a great job!This content has been extremely helpful.👍

  • @ExitTheSystemBTC
    @ExitTheSystemBTC Před rokem

    Great addition to the channel. Love to see a podcast about breaking plateaus for advanced lifters.

  • @GuaridoNutri
    @GuaridoNutri Před rokem

    Always an awesome listen, thanks for bringing JJ and Luke!!!!!

  • @dozermendoza
    @dozermendoza Před 4 měsíci

    I simply use different rep goals for Top Set. 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, RM logged and undulate that however I feel. For the Back Off Set, depending on how advanced and experienced you are: Back off Set to failure or 1RIR, followed by intensification methods such as Rest Pause, Myo-Reps, forced reps with partner, negatives, ect... I work out alone, so 3 Rest Pause with 1RIR then 15 breaths, or Myo-Reps.

  • @csamms12
    @csamms12 Před rokem

    This is one of my favorite podcast these days.

  • @jacobweidner9405
    @jacobweidner9405 Před rokem +1

    Love these podcasts so helpful!

  • @etiennebruwer3064
    @etiennebruwer3064 Před rokem +3

    Training around injuries, how to do it, when not to do it. Cuz I just randomly developed a shoulder pain from nowhere, maybe overloading the joint

    • @johnjewett7970
      @johnjewett7970 Před rokem +1

      Oh this topic is great and never ending lol!

    • @john_m3619
      @john_m3619 Před rokem

      Sounds like an overuse injury. I would take a deload and change exercises. Don’t do anything that hurts and maybe change your rep range to around 12-20 reps. It could also be your exercise execution. Try filming some of your lifts and assess from there

  • @tomcorr2332
    @tomcorr2332 Před rokem +3

    I tend to use the "top set, back off set" or "top set, intensifier set" on compound movements only (and to those that make the most sense) this with the purpose/focus of getting strong, the rest of my movements are pretty much straight sets of 12-15 reps, I don't know if that's a good method but it's currently working for me. Great content!

    • @johnjewett7970
      @johnjewett7970 Před rokem +3

      It can be great for getting strength too, hit a heavy load for strength adaptation and then lighten up from there.

  • @jeromepierce6423
    @jeromepierce6423 Před rokem +2

    This show should be called “2 Wise Bald Eagles”… these guys legit couldn’t look any more like Bald Eagles

  • @naskrajuciszy
    @naskrajuciszy Před rokem +1

    Luke is incorrect stating that two people taking squats to failure at different loads will have a different level of stimulus.
    Assuming both trainees take the set to similar proximity to failure and have the same movement mechanics they will experience very similar hypertrophy stimulus regardless of load.
    I'd even say that the less experienced lifter will have a greater stimulus further away from failure.

  • @williamsmith9315
    @williamsmith9315 Před rokem +3

    FFS...
    Set 1
    Set 2
    Move onto next exercise.

  • @kfcmusicfitness
    @kfcmusicfitness Před rokem +1

    Figure out your body, not what’s “popular”, stop overthinking and just do the work that needs to be done

  • @raydensky2048
    @raydensky2048 Před rokem +2

    Topic idea: How to use T3 in a prep and most importantly how and when to taper/cycle off again to ensure thyroid function stays good?

  • @calumscotland3511
    @calumscotland3511 Před rokem

    Great podcast

  • @Shittygenetics
    @Shittygenetics Před rokem

    Great episode

  • @watsonkushmaster3067
    @watsonkushmaster3067 Před rokem

    What about potentiation? If you do heavier set first, you will have more reps in a back down set...at least thats what i found

  • @user-xs4rm1ti8f
    @user-xs4rm1ti8f Před rokem +7

    Ill do you one better. Top set and back off set is the one of the worst things to happen in Bodybuilding. Here to build physiques not PRs.

    • @johnjewett7970
      @johnjewett7970 Před rokem +13

      I think we get hit with both extremes of chasing strength but then guys chasing perfect form and no effort. There is a balance to strike

    • @user-xs4rm1ti8f
      @user-xs4rm1ti8f Před rokem

      @@johnjewett7970 thanks for replying homie.

    • @nboss968
      @nboss968 Před 9 dny +1

      Top set backoff has nothing to do with PRs it's about progression. You should never compromise form.