Wish I would have found your video earlier. Pulled the belt off of my civic and compared to the new oam. The new one was longer and I went back to the store to make sure I got the right one. Ended up going to Dealer and buying a Honda belt and it was still longer...but I saw the new and old diagram for routing. Which made sense why the new one was longer...! Live and learn. Thanks...keep up the good work.
Excellent video. Thank you for including all of the additional information so that I can chose whether to go with the authentic Honda belt or with the belt that is probably just a good.
Thanks a lot! I got the new belt and after trying to fix it and realized it is longer than the old belt I returned it to the store. It has been a week and I’ve been to three different stores. I’m currently waiting for a special order from one of the stores. The new routing path explains it all. 👍
Glad it was helpful, wish you could've seen it before you went back and forth to return things when all you needed to do was route the belt differently from before.
replacement belt is 6 mm longer and that extra length besides the rerouting is solution for not breaking the piviot bolt due to for higt tension. Very good video 🙂
THANK YOU for this video! Getting the belt around all the pulleys was a massive pain in the ass but with my father's help we managed to get it done. Realized my entire passengers side motor mount had somehow let go and the entire engine on passengers side was almost sitting on the ground. The belt was rubbing against exposed metal which shredded the serpentine belt. Somehow we managed to use a giant prybar to move the engine back to its proper place and got 1 bolt in the motor mount to hold... Hopefully it holds on for awhile 🤞🤞 Great video tho!
Bruh I thought this was hard😂 I need to upgrade my alternator to a higher amperage w a smaller pulley. Point is that im trying to do it my self big 3 upgrade alt upgrade and agm upgrade upfront. its pretty even though I haven’t done it. CZcams has been my best friend for the diy mechanic very helpful I’m also running a 1500w for 2 12s and 500 for the speakers in my civic I also have a battery in the back.
Help!!! 2007 Civic Ex Coupe (Canadian). I can't get the serpentine belt on. I've tried Bando 7PK2164, Genuine Honda 7PK2170, Gates 7PK2150, etc and neither will not clear the alternator pulley. It's like it's too short. I am following the new routing diagram. The tensioner and bolt are brand new. `ANy advice appreciated!
Hmm...interesting. Have you talked to the Honda dealership yet? What size belt do they recommend? What I would do is measure the belt, then go down to your local auto parts store and find a belt that's a bit longer. Sounds like the correct part numbers are out the window for you at this point.
Do you know if there is a length difference in the OEM 04301-RNA-307 vs the bando 7PK2170? Is it a 6mm difference in length? In your video was your belt the Honda oem one and was it hard to get back over the alternator pully? I’ve got the Honda OEM belt just wondering if it is slightly smaller than the Bando aftermarket one even though bando makes the OEM belts
They theoretically should be the same size because the Bando part is an OEM replacement for the genuine part. I had a hard time trying to figure this out, which is why I went with the genuine belt, just to be sure. I didn't have any issues getting the Honda belt over the pulley. 6mm is not that much. Since the adjuster is hydraulic anyway, the 6mm shouldn't cause an issue trying to get that belt on. Move stretch over time anyway, so the adjuster will take care of it.
Hey are the belts on your description still the right ones on Amazon ? Would like to know if you listed them to make easier for people and just click on either and order them. Thank you
Yes they are correct. Link to the genuine part and link to the aftermarket OEM part. Both should work. But for things like this, I always stick to the genuine part just because I know there won't be any fitment issues.
I have no idea without trying myself. You'd have to see yourself. All you need to do is open the hood and try? Should only take 10 seconds to figure it out?
Hey, my civic makes a noise between 1500- 2000 rpms and only does it on the right side passenger side, while accelerating. I've changed all the pulleys except alternator because they said its running fine and the only one that hasn't been replaced is the ac compressor. The noise is really obnoxious and only does it when j drive and it's super loud. Any, suggestions?
I mean, you've changed all the pullies besides one. Are you able to zero in on the noise and see if it's that AC compressor pulley? Also, make sure they are torqued to the correct spec. That could be the issue also.
@@nukem384, 6mm difference would be hard to tell by comparing belt and original belt has no markings on it at all. Do you know if either of them will work - Bando part number 7PK2170 replaces 7PK2164? Thanks
@@maverickperson5443 can you not look up the specs of each belt online? But for 6mm, that's such a tiny difference. I would think you'd be fine then. The tensioner is adjustable for a reason. And over the life of the belt, it's going to stretch more than that.
I got a gates tensioner and belt kit about a year ago and its made the hissing sound since it was almost new. the numbers have worn off since but i bet got the smaller one. who knows how old the kits are and i dont think it says the model belt on the box. I remember pullin pretty far to get that belt on. Just seemed odd. I'll update this when I get the 7PK2170 on.
Two things I can think of. Either you have a defective belt/reallyyyyyy old belt, or your pulleys might be doing the damage. Check the pulleys and make sure your belt is aligned correctly when you install a new one.
so if my car sounds whiney as hell, its my belt?? sometimes when im turning with my wheel cranked 100% to the right or left, it basically makes a crunching sound. anyone know if my belt is shot or if its something else?? :(
Tried changing mine and couldn’t get it I eat the alternator pulley I tried for a solid 2 hours. Put the old belt back on it took 3 mins. Wrong belt maybe?
@@benjamingarcia1072 It shouldn't be hard to get the belt over the pulley. If you're loosening the tensioner as shown, which it sounds like you know how to do, the belt should be easy to seat. I agree with you that it's probably the wrong size. I guess time to return and get another belt. Google the size of the belt, that way it's correct next time.
Only thing I would check is make sure the actual belt is actually 7PK2170. I'm sure the packaging said that, but I've had a time where the physical product instead the marked box was not the same and I had oil all over my garage floor because of it (oil filter).
I'm assuming you're routing it the new way? Can you even route it the old way to get it on? Also, does the actual belt have the correct part number on it? Sometimes the wrong belt can get placed in the packaging.
@@divin3kag3242 Hmm...that's interesting. This is one of the reasons I always go with Honda genuine parts. Assuming it's the right part, there's no worrying about fitment issues. I suppose if you bought it at an autopart store, the easiest thing to do is to ask them to find you the proper length belt based on the new pattern.
@@nukem384 i know but the folk at the auto parts store swear on these parts like they are out here changing the parts and make you seem like you're crazy or doing something wrong. Hopefully i can find the longer belt for when i install the revised new way.
You're going to lose power to a lot of systems. I would not drive the car if that happens. If you're on the road, pull over immediately and get the car towed.
I would try and use the new style if the belt is long enough. It's better for the parts and obviously what Honda recommends. If it doesn't fit and you have to use the old method, just do that. It's not the end of the world.
Wish I would have found your video earlier. Pulled the belt off of my civic and compared to the new oam. The new one was longer and I went back to the store to make sure I got the right one. Ended up going to Dealer and buying a Honda belt and it was still longer...but I saw the new and old diagram for routing. Which made sense why the new one was longer...! Live and learn. Thanks...keep up the good work.
Thanks! Yeah too bad you didn't see this earlier as Honda does make these types of changes every now and then
Excellent video. Thank you for including all of the additional information so that I can chose whether to go with the authentic Honda belt or with the belt that is probably just a good.
Glad it helped!
I was searching the length of belt since 4 months but today i saw ur vdo..nd i m sure about size..thanku so much
That's awesome, glad it was helpful!
Thanks a lot! I got the new belt and after trying to fix it and realized it is longer than the old belt I returned it to the store. It has been a week and I’ve been to three different stores. I’m currently waiting for a special order from one of the stores. The new routing path explains it all. 👍
Glad it was helpful, wish you could've seen it before you went back and forth to return things when all you needed to do was route the belt differently from before.
@@nukem384 can you help me out with a noise posted comment. Thank you.
replacement belt is 6 mm longer and that extra length besides the rerouting is solution for not breaking the piviot bolt due to for higt tension.
Very good video 🙂
Thanks!
Very helpful indeed... you saved me from confusion... Thank you! 🤘
No problem! Glad it helped!
THANK YOU for this video! Getting the belt around all the pulleys was a massive pain in the ass but with my father's help we managed to get it done. Realized my entire passengers side motor mount had somehow let go and the entire engine on passengers side was almost sitting on the ground. The belt was rubbing against exposed metal which shredded the serpentine belt. Somehow we managed to use a giant prybar to move the engine back to its proper place and got 1 bolt in the motor mount to hold... Hopefully it holds on for awhile 🤞🤞 Great video tho!
Glad it helped! Get that motor mount replaced ASAP!
Yea don't drive like that please
Thank You for the instructions and the added additional info
Glad it helped
Thanks this video saved me a lot of time!
Glad it helped!
This is an amazing video, you helped me big time, thnx.
No problem! Glad it helped!
Very helpful video and description 👍
No problem! Glad it helped
Bruh I thought this was hard😂 I need to upgrade my alternator to a higher amperage w a smaller pulley. Point is that im trying to do it my self big 3 upgrade alt upgrade and agm upgrade upfront. its pretty even though I haven’t done it. CZcams has been my best friend for the diy mechanic very helpful I’m also running a 1500w for 2 12s and 500 for the speakers in my civic I also have a battery in the back.
I get why you need the high amp alternator now :D. Glad the video helped!
Thanks for the help man!
No problem! Glad it was helpful!
my new belt pk2164.. It can’t be fit. how could mate?
Great video
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Very helpful.
Glad it helped
Help!!! 2007 Civic Ex Coupe (Canadian). I can't get the serpentine belt on. I've tried Bando 7PK2164, Genuine Honda 7PK2170, Gates 7PK2150, etc and neither will not clear the alternator pulley. It's like it's too short. I am following the new routing diagram. The tensioner and bolt are brand new. `ANy advice appreciated!
Hmm...interesting. Have you talked to the Honda dealership yet? What size belt do they recommend? What I would do is measure the belt, then go down to your local auto parts store and find a belt that's a bit longer. Sounds like the correct part numbers are out the window for you at this point.
Do you know if there is a length difference in the OEM 04301-RNA-307 vs the bando 7PK2170? Is it a 6mm difference in length? In your video was your belt the Honda oem one and was it hard to get back over the alternator pully? I’ve got the Honda OEM belt just wondering if it is slightly smaller than the Bando aftermarket one even though bando makes the OEM belts
They theoretically should be the same size because the Bando part is an OEM replacement for the genuine part. I had a hard time trying to figure this out, which is why I went with the genuine belt, just to be sure. I didn't have any issues getting the Honda belt over the pulley. 6mm is not that much. Since the adjuster is hydraulic anyway, the 6mm shouldn't cause an issue trying to get that belt on. Move stretch over time anyway, so the adjuster will take care of it.
Hey are the belts on your description still the right ones on Amazon ? Would like to know if you listed them to make easier for people and just click on either and order them. Thank you
Yes they are correct. Link to the genuine part and link to the aftermarket OEM part. Both should work. But for things like this, I always stick to the genuine part just because I know there won't be any fitment issues.
would a 15 degree offset 19mm wrench have enough clearance to fit in there?
I have no idea without trying myself. You'd have to see yourself. All you need to do is open the hood and try? Should only take 10 seconds to figure it out?
Thanks a lot
No problem! Glad it helped!
Maybe it’s longer by just a few mm? Very helpful video also thanks.
If it's just a few mm, you could get that on by using the process shown. There is some give when loosing the auto tensioner.
Who's watching this because they tried to change their alternator by themselves and the darn belt fell off hahaha
Lol
Replaceing the engine actually 😅😂
Ugh me
Lmao here
Its a nightmare to place back jesus christ
Hey, my civic makes a noise between 1500- 2000 rpms and only does it on the right side passenger side, while accelerating. I've changed all the pulleys except alternator because they said its running fine and the only one that hasn't been replaced is the ac compressor. The noise is really obnoxious and only does it when j drive and it's super loud. Any, suggestions?
I mean, you've changed all the pullies besides one. Are you able to zero in on the noise and see if it's that AC compressor pulley? Also, make sure they are torqued to the correct spec. That could be the issue also.
@@nukem384 nabbed they didn't torque to right specs cause my ac works fine with no problems at all unless the bearing is going out on it.
Hi there... Jist to confirm, BOTH TSB's only apply to vehicles with AC, correct? My vehicle does not have AC so just double checking. Thank you.
Yes, just AC. The belt is totally different if you don't have AC because there's no AC condenser to wrap the belt around.
@@nukem384Cheers mate!
Thanks for a great video and explanation. Any idea if I go with gates 39054K kit, if belt should be good?
Glad it helped. I don't know on that one. You'd have to get the length and compare to the OEM one. If it's the same length, it should be fine.
@@nukem384, 6mm difference would be hard to tell by comparing belt and original belt has no markings on it at all. Do you know if either of them will work - Bando part number 7PK2170 replaces 7PK2164? Thanks
@@maverickperson5443 can you not look up the specs of each belt online?
But for 6mm, that's such a tiny difference. I would think you'd be fine then. The tensioner is adjustable for a reason. And over the life of the belt, it's going to stretch more than that.
I got a gates tensioner and belt kit about a year ago and its made the hissing sound since it was almost new. the numbers have worn off since but i bet got the smaller one. who knows how old the kits are and i dont think it says the model belt on the box. I remember pullin pretty far to get that belt on. Just seemed odd. I'll update this when I get the 7PK2170 on.
@@ryani5103 would be good to get your feedback and experience if things get better for you, will go with 7pk2170 too. Thx
Please what could be d problem, have been changing belts for like 3 months now,at least 3 times in a month.
Check the actual pulley. There might be something damaged on it that's chewing up your belt.
Mine started threading, is there a problem that can cause this?
Two things I can think of. Either you have a defective belt/reallyyyyyy old belt, or your pulleys might be doing the damage. Check the pulleys and make sure your belt is aligned correctly when you install a new one.
Thank you u
Glad it helped
so if my car sounds whiney as hell, its my belt??
sometimes when im turning with my wheel cranked 100% to the right or left, it basically makes a crunching sound. anyone know if my belt is shot or if its something else?? :(
Could be the belt tension isn't correct, but it could also be your pullies as well. I'd check both and make sure they look ok.
@@nukem384 ahhh okay, thanks man god bless 😇
Tried changing mine and couldn’t get it I eat the alternator pulley I tried for a solid 2 hours. Put the old belt back on it took 3 mins. Wrong belt maybe?
Did you use the new routing method? If so, then yeah, thats really the only thing I can think of
@@nukem384 yes i did. It’s right there I know belts loosen over time but I feel this new on was a bit too small
@@benjamingarcia1072 It shouldn't be hard to get the belt over the pulley. If you're loosening the tensioner as shown, which it sounds like you know how to do, the belt should be easy to seat. I agree with you that it's probably the wrong size. I guess time to return and get another belt. Google the size of the belt, that way it's correct next time.
Every how many should the belt replace?
I believe this one was like 90k. I would just look at the belt and if you are seeing cracks in it or the teeth are worn down, change it.
I ordered the 7pk2170 and routed it as shown and it is way to long? Any answers on this?
Only thing I would check is make sure the actual belt is actually 7PK2170. I'm sure the packaging said that, but I've had a time where the physical product instead the marked box was not the same and I had oil all over my garage floor because of it (oil filter).
Your correct, the cardboard around the belt says 7PK2170 while the belt itself has 8PK2515 on it
@@sethtravis2351 Well there ya go. Time to go back to the auto parts store and return that huge belt!
GOD BLESSYOU
Glad it was helpful!
Im still having a issue with puttin the 7pk2170 on its not even close to the altenator and i released the tension slow as possible
I'm assuming you're routing it the new way? Can you even route it the old way to get it on?
Also, does the actual belt have the correct part number on it? Sometimes the wrong belt can get placed in the packaging.
@@nukem384 yes i used the old which would make the belt longer and the new way the belt is too short. I used the 7pk2170 and 7pk2164.
@@divin3kag3242 Hmm...that's interesting. This is one of the reasons I always go with Honda genuine parts. Assuming it's the right part, there's no worrying about fitment issues. I suppose if you bought it at an autopart store, the easiest thing to do is to ask them to find you the proper length belt based on the new pattern.
@@nukem384 i know but the folk at the auto parts store swear on these parts like they are out here changing the parts and make you seem like you're crazy or doing something wrong. Hopefully i can find the longer belt for when i install the revised new way.
@@divin3kag3242 Good luck! Hope you can get it figured it!
What happens when it snaps while driving?
You're going to lose power to a lot of systems. I would not drive the car if that happens. If you're on the road, pull over immediately and get the car towed.
I have the 7pk2164 do i use the new style method or the old one
I would try and use the new style if the belt is long enough. It's better for the parts and obviously what Honda recommends. If it doesn't fit and you have to use the old method, just do that. It's not the end of the world.
@@nukem384 thanks it worked
@@edarellano13 Awesome! Thanks for letting me know
@@edarellano13 hi mate, wanna ask u something. i got same belt code with u and can't fit to my civic 08. what method do u use? thanks
Gates makes the best belts, worked at Autozone and Pepboys for years, dont buy the Honda belt!
Honda civic 1.8?
This was done on a 1.7L Civic. It may still work, but you'd have to verify yourself.