Great Video. Thanks for the inspiration. Just picked up 1977 Starcraft Chieftain 18 with rotten floors throughout...(boat didn't like being parked un-covered for 15 years... :( I have not started removing the rotten floors yet... I'm not expecting any hull-rivet issues.. I hadn't thought about the floor support rivets...great job with the pop rivets... Thanks for laying out the rivet considerations.
great job on the floor. I restored my StarCraft last year also. I hate that I didn't make a video thou. I will post what I've done hopefully this weekend
Great boat to trailer around. Quite light.I had an 18 footer in 1972---73 with an Evenrude 85 and I was able to tow it with a Toyota Hilux. Starcraft at that time sold those rivited aluminum boats with a 15 year warranty here in Canada. ( Pardon my spelling)
Doing a similar project with a SS 16' I really considered Starboard but ended buying Okoume instead. The sticker shock on both was crazy. Everything is crazy expensive right now. Great idea on the tackle box! Looks like a fun fishing rig
Anybody reading this...dont use poly resin on wood unless you use the glass mat with it. Poly resin is very brittle and without the glass mat will crack and actually pull in moisture due to capillary action. Also regular poly resin must be protected with another product to protect it from uv damage.
Just curious why this comment falls under this video. This is a starboard floor install. Not saying you are wrong just saying it would mean more on a video where resin is being used
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina because this guy repeatedly said if he did it again he would not go the starboard but rather poly resin coated plywood. I enjoyed the video and applaud his work, but he is telling people to go the poly resin plywood route. So being a fiberglass guy in the past I'm just helping those people that take that his advise to not shoot themselves in the foot by thinking just coating with standard poly resin without knowing you must have the glass in it too and also that uv will degrade it quickly. If you don't want to use poly resin because of needing the glass in it then you can use epoxy with a uv inhibitor. But don't mix the two products with each other either....they are usually not compatible.
Came out great, I just recently bought the same boat and I am currently at this point in the project. But, I have a question. I was wondering since more than half the foam I pulled it was no good, would you recommend liquid foam? Any help is appreciated.
Hey thanks for the great video! I just picked up a mid 70s StarCraft and I need to do the floor. I got some pressure treated plywood but man that starboard looks slick! Should I be using rivets regardless? It looks the the previous floor was screwed down.
Great info! Except..... where was this video in 2015 when I redid my Starcraft??? Ha ha ha! I discovered those "wide rimmed" rivets way too late whe I did mine. Still toying with the idea of going back & redoing the underbelly of mine. You have tons of great ideas sir! One question, how did you do those fishing boxes on the port side of the dash? Did you completely tear apart the dash? Thank you for the great work and video!
Nice video! I just picked up an 88 SS180. The flor is still firm, but I will be gutting it next winter. How solid is that decking when you walk on it? Does it flex more than 1/2” plywood?
I'm a 290 lb guy and the flex is about the same. The only draw back to the starboard is it expands and contracts with temperature change. If it wasn't for that it would be perfect. Don't have to worry about moister or rot ever.
Did you do a video on your first step of removing the floor???? I have a 1985, 17 ft. Starcraft that need a new floor. Thanks for the video. Great job!
Thanks Mike! Having never done a floor removal on any marine unit, was hoping you did on your Starcraft. From your video posting, I learned a great deal from your video. Guess I will just slog-on removing y floring from my 17ft 1985 Starcraft. All the best!
You have any video on the fishing storage boxes under the passenger winshield. Buddy has a similar boat and wants to utilize that space for the same style boxes. Thanks
Currently doing this project on the same boat. My foam has tons of mold on it and I’m looking to get new foam. Did you reuse your foam? Or cut new pieces?
I have a question for you I know this is an old video but maybe you can still help me what size was the decking material that you used and what type of screws
You can re-tighten solid rivets. If they don’t tighten they need replacement. Gluvit isn’t necessarily the best way. Rivets are structural and some pour-in glue isn’t what I’d want to depend on a mile or two from shore. Maybe it’s ok for insurance after refastening but not truly a repair for sure
I ordered mine through a local plastics supplier that my company purchases plastic through. Just do a search on King Starboard and you should be able to find lots of on line suppliers. It is not cheap.
the idea rivet vs weld got mr thinking, looks kike there is room for two rivets in some areas. me, i get one, no hiigh speeds should help w/ the rivets problem
I have another question for your brother. I’m getting ready to order some starboard found a supplier local live in Cincinnati Ohio. Sometimes harsh winters I’m just wondering about how are your decks holding up and if you did anything to offset for Expanding and contracting thanks for your help in advance
Ok I have had the star board in my boat for 2 years now. Works great. The expansion and contraction is a real thing. If I had it to do over again I would just use 3/4" marine plywood and paint it with 2-3 coats of outdoor paint to seal it up. This would be stiffer and still last many many years.
I’m planning on using three-quarter antiskid for the whole deck the price difference is not that much I’m just looking for zero maintenance how do you think that would hold up by the way brother thank you for all your help.I’m going Drill oversize holes and screws with finish washers for expansion and contraction two part expansion foam underneath the deck for Rigidity looks like you and I are the only one that used it as a deck material that I can find thanks again
RMD Creations Why marine plywood?! You aren’t bending it and it’s expensive. I’ve used ACX fir and painted it. Same glue, same wood, same strength, same weatherability, 1/2 the price!
Knowing what I know today I would use 1/2" or even 3/4" marine plywood coated in poly resin. The starboard floor is too flexible and it gets stupid hot in the sun even with the carpet over it. My casting desk up front is way more comfortable and with the right prep work will last just as long in my book.
it's starboard, doesn't rot and doesn't hold moister. It does tend to move around in the direct sunlight, I have put EVA foam over it now and that seems to help a lot. thanks for watching
This actually helped me so much I need a floor piece and u gave me the answer thank you!!!
Great Video. Thanks for the inspiration. Just picked up 1977 Starcraft Chieftain 18 with rotten floors throughout...(boat didn't like being parked un-covered for 15 years... :( I have not started removing the rotten floors yet... I'm not expecting any hull-rivet issues.. I hadn't thought about the floor support rivets...great job with the pop rivets... Thanks for laying out the rivet considerations.
great job on the floor. I restored my StarCraft last year also. I hate that I didn't make a video thou. I will post what I've done hopefully this weekend
Very nice. I need to do this to my boat.
good video. I just bought a 1978 16' SS and I am about to do the same exact thing to mine. this was a good reference for me thanks!
Daniel Melato have you finished it?
@@officialWWM pretty much. Just have to do the bow seats and some electrical. I plan on finishing it this month.
Great video. Love the starboard idea for floor. I usually use marine plywood but like this better.
Great boat to trailer around. Quite light.I had an 18 footer in 1972---73 with an Evenrude 85 and I was able to tow it with a Toyota Hilux. Starcraft at that time sold those rivited aluminum boats with a 15 year warranty here in Canada. ( Pardon my spelling)
Dang mine is just out of warranty by a couple years. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Doing a similar project with a SS 16' I really considered Starboard but ended buying Okoume instead. The sticker shock on both was crazy. Everything is crazy expensive right now. Great idea on the tackle box! Looks like a fun fishing rig
Very cool!
Great job!
Thanks brother I appreciate it
Olimpic athlete boat repair man. Zoom he's fast as heck.
great job
Hey thanks, and thanks for watching
Anybody reading this...dont use poly resin on wood unless you use the glass mat with it. Poly resin is very brittle and without the glass mat will crack and actually pull in moisture due to capillary action. Also regular poly resin must be protected with another product to protect it from uv damage.
Just curious why this comment falls under this video. This is a starboard floor install. Not saying you are wrong just saying it would mean more on a video where resin is being used
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina because this guy repeatedly said if he did it again he would not go the starboard but rather poly resin coated plywood. I enjoyed the video and applaud his work, but he is telling people to go the poly resin plywood route. So being a fiberglass guy in the past I'm just helping those people that take that his advise to not shoot themselves in the foot by thinking just coating with standard poly resin without knowing you must have the glass in it too and also that uv will degrade it quickly. If you don't want to use poly resin because of needing the glass in it then you can use epoxy with a uv inhibitor. But don't mix the two products with each other either....they are usually not compatible.
Nice job ! I am reflooring a 21' Starcraft. Did you use 3/4 or 1/2" starboard ?
Came out great, I just recently bought the same boat and I am currently at this point in the project. But, I have a question.
I was wondering since more than half the foam I pulled it was no good, would you recommend liquid foam? Any help is appreciated.
I wouldn't use liquid foam in an old riveted boat myself unless you knew it was water tight. The two part foam will still absorb water.
Hey thanks for the great video! I just picked up a mid 70s StarCraft and I need to do the floor. I got some pressure treated plywood but man that starboard looks slick!
Should I be using rivets regardless? It looks the the previous floor was screwed down.
You shouldn't use treated wood in aluminum boats. Doesn't react with the aluminum well.
Great info! Except..... where was this video in 2015 when I redid my Starcraft??? Ha ha ha! I discovered those "wide rimmed" rivets way too late whe I did mine. Still toying with the idea of going back & redoing the underbelly of mine. You have tons of great ideas sir! One question, how did you do those fishing boxes on the port side of the dash? Did you completely tear apart the dash? Thank you for the great work and video!
instablaster.
Nice video! I just picked up an 88 SS180. The flor is still firm, but I will be gutting it next winter. How solid is that decking when you walk on it? Does it flex more than 1/2” plywood?
I'm a 290 lb guy and the flex is about the same. The only draw back to the starboard is it expands and contracts with temperature change. If it wasn't for that it would be perfect. Don't have to worry about moister or rot ever.
It would expand and contract less then plywood I would think.
Did you do a video on your first step of removing the floor???? I have a 1985, 17 ft. Starcraft that need a new floor. Thanks for the video. Great job!
Sorry I do not. Straight forward on the floor removal. Drill, drill, drill rivets.
Thanks Mike! Having never done a floor removal on any marine unit, was hoping you did on your Starcraft. From your video posting, I learned a great deal from your video. Guess I will just slog-on removing y floring from my 17ft 1985 Starcraft. All the best!
You have any video on the fishing storage boxes under the passenger winshield. Buddy has a similar boat and wants to utilize that space for the same style boxes. Thanks
Unfortunately not, that was just a create as I went sort of thing, thanks for watching
Great job. Looks like you're using 1/2"? I was considering using the 3/8" version, I have supports every 18" with foam board in between.
I didn’t know Starcraft made an aluminum hull with I/O.. what model is that? I want one!
Looks good. Been a while, how did the gloveit work?
didn't stop the rivet leaks but it's 98% which was a great improvment
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina Thank you for the honesty. I got a repair same stuff.
Currently doing this project on the same boat. My foam has tons of mold on it and I’m looking to get new foam. Did you reuse your foam? Or cut new pieces?
my foam was in pretty good shape so I reused it. thanks for watching
I have a question for you I know this is an old video but maybe you can still help me what size was the decking material that you used and what type of screws
The Starboard is 1/2" thick and I used rivets with large heads to fasten the floor to the stringer
What did you use to seal the rivets, prior to installing the floor??
Gluvit I have a video all about it.
You can re-tighten solid rivets. If they don’t tighten they need replacement.
Gluvit isn’t necessarily the best way.
Rivets are structural and some pour-in glue isn’t what I’d want to depend on a mile or two from shore. Maybe it’s ok for insurance after refastening but not truly a repair for sure
Great job when you can do the job yourself. Is there another name for the starboard flooring?
King starboard is the brand I used. thanks for watching
Is it a pain to remove the drivers console on these? I’m replacing my floor and I didn’t see how my drivers console could be removed
The wiring would be more of a pain than the consol itself.
How are you going to prevent water from making it to the foam?
Not sure what you are asking. Water can get to the foam if the boat is sinking.
so how well did the gluvit work? did you add more gluvit to new rivet locations? tia, probably need to do same on my 96 Starcraft
The gluvit was not a perfect seal but I now may get a cup of water all day vs. the 5 gallons I was getting before. very pleased with the outcome.
I have a 89 star craft offshore 18 where do u get the star board ?
I ordered mine through a local plastics supplier that my company purchases plastic through. Just do a search on King Starboard and you should be able to find lots of on line suppliers. It is not cheap.
I don't have space or much ability working on boat......Any suggestions on finding someone that can help me out.....I live in Northern NY.......
Sorry I can't be of any help for this.
There’s plenty of marinas in your neck of the woods. Especially if you’re towards Lake Champlain or Lake Ontario.
I have a1978 StarCraft I’m redoing what size is the starboard
1/2”
What sizes did you purchase the sheets?
I think they were 4x8.
What are you using for the floor
king starboard, I would not recommend it. moves around a lot in the heat
You didn't foam underneath?
There is foam underneath, thanks for watching
That’s 1/2? Also how much what that per sq foot?
yes 1/2" and about $250 per 4x8 sheet. Would I do it again, NO. I would use marine plywood and resin seal the wood.
How did u remove the bottoms of the old rivets that u drilled out!?
They just fell out when you drilled the old rivet out.
@@Michaelsbackyardmarina under the aluminium cross members. How did u get them out of there?
I just left them. You won’t even know they are there once the flotation and the floor is back in.
Won't they rattle? That would drive me mental🤣
@@shamrock4life04 no rattle that I can hear. Been two years.
why put a new riven in a hole with all the drilling trash around it so rivet is nut FLUSH?
Thanks for watching.
the idea rivet vs weld got mr thinking, looks kike there is room for two rivets in some areas. me, i get one, no hiigh speeds should help w/ the rivets problem
Sounds like a plan, thanks for watching
I have another question for your brother. I’m getting ready to order some starboard found a supplier local live in Cincinnati Ohio. Sometimes harsh winters I’m just wondering about how are your decks holding up and if you did anything to offset for Expanding and contracting thanks for your help in advance
Ok I have had the star board in my boat for 2 years now. Works great. The expansion and contraction is a real thing. If I had it to do over again I would just use 3/4" marine plywood and paint it with 2-3 coats of outdoor paint to seal it up. This would be stiffer and still last many many years.
I’m planning on using three-quarter antiskid for the whole deck the price difference is not that much I’m just looking for zero maintenance how do you think that would hold up by the way brother thank you for all your help.I’m going Drill oversize holes and screws with finish washers for expansion and contraction two part expansion foam underneath the deck for Rigidity looks like you and I are the only one that used it as a deck material that I can find thanks again
3/4" will be plenty stiff enough. Still going to grow and shrink with temp. I would allow for it.
RMD Creations
Why marine plywood?! You aren’t bending it and it’s expensive. I’ve used ACX fir and painted it. Same glue, same wood, same strength, same weatherability, 1/2 the price!
i have the same boat...does the starboard flex? should i just use plywood,,,, how heavy was the starboard ...thanks for the info
Knowing what I know today I would use 1/2" or even 3/4" marine plywood coated in poly resin. The starboard floor is too flexible and it gets stupid hot in the sun even with the carpet over it. My casting desk up front is way more comfortable and with the right prep work will last just as long in my book.
I unfortunately have to start this project for my 20ft
I Drulled when I saw the motor!
Thanks for watching
How is it holding up
it's starboard, doesn't rot and doesn't hold moister. It does tend to move around in the direct sunlight, I have put EVA foam over it now and that seems to help a lot. thanks for watching
foam?
under the starboard
What about flotation, under the floor....??????? Your video missed that part.
There is the original foam under the floor.
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Good vid but to much talking not enough work