PT / Silent Hills Analysis
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Examining the symbolism behind PT / Silent Hills.
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Guillermo del Toro in an interview said that for silent hills, he and Kojima had planned for the game to do something like psycho mantis, the metal gear boss who broke the fourth wall and played with the player, how incredible it would have been to be able to play it.
RIP P.T.
RIP Silent Hills
#FucKonami
I read it was supposed to play with the lights in your room
And send threatening texts and mysterious voicemail to your phone!
Yeah and I heard he figured out how to really imprison a soul in the ps4 hardware for like 4th wall breaks and stuff. Come on guys I’m sad this game didn’t exist also but we are mythologizing this game a little bit aren’t we?
@@Soulvale88 Not a little bit. A lot. All the time.
even after all these years it’s still real gut wrenching knowing this won’t ever come out:(
I feel the same. It hurts.
Konani just hinted strongly that there is a new Silent Hill game in the works right now!!
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath holy crap yes!!!
Would love a new SH title but I can't lie when I say It devastates me knowing Kojima/GDT's version will never come to full realization. P.T. being removed from the PSN altogether is the added kick in the b@lls.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath I'd rather they not make any more. Konami is a garbage company who has no consideration whatsoever for franchises like Metal Gear or Silent Hill and their legacy, and they treat their employees like shit. All they care about is the bottom line. They know that all they have to do is slap the Silent Hill title on the game and it is going to sell at least okay. There is no way a new Silent Hill game would be anything other than mediocre when half-assing everything nets them the same profit. I'd rather play 1-3 over and over again and remember SH as the amazing franchise it used to be.
Years later and PT still looks like an interactive live action movie. So damn impressive
actually yuurei are just ghosts (albeit ghosts of people who did not meet a very happy ending), onryou are the vengeful ghosts you are looking for. the white clothes worn by the ghosts are usually funeral dress.
the silent hill game we will never have
Konani just hinted strongly that there is a new Silent Hill game in the works right now!!
polifatts But will it be anything like Silent Hills would have been? Or will it be another outsourced game which won’t be that great.
@@IconiqueBloomie This is what I'm worried about. Sure, Konami may have an SH game or two in the works, but will they be up to Team Silent's work? Are they picking up where Kojima and Del Toro left off? I highly doubt either of those. Konami hasn't been quality in a long time.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath a new Silent Hill?? Jay!!
I would've taken this over origins and homecoming tbh
I still have the game on my PS4 hard drive. Play it every now and then and still manages to scare me 😅 Love your silent hill analysis videos, keep up the great work ❤️
Same here.
Me too it's by far one of the best atmospheric games well teaser of this gen's consoles. Only thing close IMHO is Control in just atmosphere alone, Control lacks the horror of PT sadly. Hopefully this new Silent Hill reboot can find a way to recapture the greatness of the franchise completely but I must admit that Konami's track record makes that seem impossible.
Hey, at least you could sell it on ebay for a huge profit lol
Oh shoot wassup bro same
Ditto
Did you see the Boundary Break video that shows that Lisa is always tied behind the player, like she literally sticks to the back of thr player as soon as you pick up the flashlight, it's such a cool and unnerving touch.
They can always bring it back, even after all that happened & after all this time. I wouldn't complain ..
Jilligain they literally can’t. The property is owned by Konami and Kojima had an extremely bad break up with them and there’s basically no way the new kojima productions could get the licensing considering they are now competitors to Konami
Jilligain konami sucks
Konani just hinted strongly that there is a new Silent Hill game in the works right now!!
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath but ist gonna be probably something from cheap studio like downpour , after P.T. people will be dissapointed from any new silent hill game , pepole saw what kojima and del toro did , and people want something like that , Iam not that exicted for new silent hill game , we need more details
@@cucumbers3989 Same here. I can't trust Konami to do the series justice unless Team Silent somehow came back together or Kojima and Del Toro were somehow able to work on it. Neither of these are even remotely likely.
I've considered that Lisa herself wounded herself in her abdomen and took out her own eye because she was either assaulted or had an affair (the red shoe could hint at it being an affair or a perceived affair since the color red has many meanings including rage, passion, intense emotions, blood, power, the feminine aspect, blood, life and death as well as the old label of 'scarlet woman'/unfaithful or immoral woman) that resulted in pregnancy.
The red shoe she wears could be something she wore but it could also be from the husband's mind on how he views his wife. Yet she's wearing white which could be a sign of her being innocent of what her husband perceives her to be and there's more white than red on her as far as her clothing. I don't think it's entirely impossible that Lisa became mentally unstable if she wasn't from the start for her to try to give herself an abortion out of shame, disgust or simply to hide it from her husband or get back his approval. It's interesting to me if Lisa did those things herself due to guilt, mental illness or severe abuse/brainwashing of the husband that drove her to do those things to herself and her unborn child because it's somehow more horrifying, shocking and less obvious. That the fetus isn't fully developed and in the bathroom sink along other things seen in the bathroom plus Lisa's appearance and what's revealed vaguely about the husband could imply (among many things) that a home abortion may have been attempted but it ended badly or the husband killed Lisa and the unborn baby in a fit of rage when he learned of her condition
Back on what Muse is saying may be the case with Lisa, what may have happened to her may have been revisiting the fear women have of being objectified and having no control over their own bodies and the threat of men (in Lisa's case her boss and husband) as women can fear them to be. It makes me think of movies like Stepford Wives and Rosemary's Baby a little bit. I'd have loved for Silent Hill to revisit the female fears even if only through one non-player character or monster rather than the player or the whole game theme like Silent Hill 3 did. Either way the relationship between Lisa and her husband seems to be a toxic if not a possibly abusive one even before Lisa's death. That she's wearing a red item and that she was the one working and her husband wasn't may indicate an imbalance of power perceived by the man at least that many men tend to be insecure or feel threatened by: a woman being the bread winner. This can make a man feel emasculated and less than a man and build resentment and anger that can turn into hatred. Or perhaps Lisa was willfully more dominant in the relationship and was the abuser who had affairs until her husband snapped, possibly by becoming pregnant from a lover and thus making him a failure in another aspect: being virile and having children. It's too bad Silent Hills was cancelled, so now we'll never know. I wouldn't mind a Silent Hill diving into the masculine side of subconscious fears as SH3 did for women.
Do you really want to watch this video before bed on a Sunday night?
Yes, yes I do.
Great commentary on a great series.
I have begun to notice a trend of umbilical cords in Kojima games though. Heh.
I do find it quite interesting that the unborn baby refers to the husband as his dad, possibly implying the husband was in fact the child's biological father. Lisa's boss taking notice of her and the child coming soon after could be the husband's interpretation, and that he killed his wife and children over a misunderstanding. It would be a very fitting story for Silent Hill.
I'm so glad people still theorize and think deeply about this game. Thank you for providing great insight and keeping it fresh in our hearts and minds, love this
long time fan here.
wanted to say: there is this other video "P.T.'s Hidden Meaning: TheGrateDebate" that also does a fab job for this game :)
I've watched almost every video on PT and yet you pointed out things I never would have noticed!! Good work!!
I love watching all of these symbolism videos. This one is very intriguing and interesting to watch.
I love all of the in depth digging you do. As usual, you did an amazing job. 😤👌
Holy crap! You’re blowing my mind with Lisa’s shoes!!! 👏🏾🌹 excellent observation!
I can’t get enough of these PT findings! Lol I appreciate your going back to previous Silent Hill games. Really great work here! Kudos🌹
Take care & be well.
Hey! I just wanted to say that I love these videos so much! I really like the way you explain things, it's so amazing and entertaining 😊
I like the theory that Kojima made this knowing Konami would fire him and the number 204863 one, but people don't talk much about the one of this not being a Silent Hill game at all but a nightmare Snake was having while he was in a coma after the events of Ground Zeroes, you can even see Chico in one of the trailers of PT, Silent Hills just being teased at the end
anyways, great video as always, didn't see the similarities with SH4 before
Amazing like always i clicked so fast, please do the haunting ground that game was a good survival horror psychological game and would be worth it for symbolism video 🌹
Amazing video! Thank you!
you did a very fine job with that Analysis
Awesome job, very informative!!!
Just about every point made in this video is new and fresh; things no one has talked about before. My god, well done. Seriously.
I simply adore you and your way of thinking 🤔 🥰
Very interesting. Thanks for making this very informative video
This game could have been so promising :( it seems like an incredible good concept for the game and story
ive been lookiing into p.t / ds for a while now , it gives me joy when i see a new video about it , wow what an interesting video , i didnt know about that biblical refference that literally said gouge it out! , please make more videos on P.T
Nice. Good video as always. Also thought another interesting subject to cover might be prisons in Downpour. The Devil Pit Mines are known as Earth Prison according to one sign along the tour and though I haven't finished, several main locations might also be prison like as well. Being outside the prison may not mean he's as free as he thought. Sounded like a fun topic.
Loved it 💖💖💖
I wrote down a theory I have that PT Lisa wasn’t our wife but our mother
Where can I read it? I'm really interested in your theory!
Look at the silent hill theme theory on r/silenthill
This is your best one yet!
Great work😎👍
OOOO I never expected a symbolism vid on P.T nice thanks gaming muse your the best
I heard a thing before that Lisa's one heel is meant to symbolize the one sided relationship with her boss, and how she was used and abused.
You have been acknowledged .
Wow this video, very well made!
great content i cant believe i managed to download PT while I still could
This is a real great breakdown...also I believe this was a game that was inspired by the eye..which also tells you to gourge out Lisa eyes..which I believe was able to see the ghosts of the other side...but looking through the one eye peephole allows you to hear the other side of the murders
Had to subscribe once I saw the title 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🎧
Great work, really.
I do have to wonder. It's not often we see other people's preseptions change the psychology of a monster. The fact that Lisa says to gauge an eye rather than her husband almost feels like a confession. As well we only see people become monsters if they themselves are guilty, rather than harboring false guilt. In example while Lisa becomes a monster it is threw her physical role in Alisa's torment. She maintains a sense of self but becomes a monster none the less. In contrast the people who feel guilty but aren't usually just die in Silent Hill, in example Angela. As such PT's Lisa must either have some legitimate guilt or is a complete fabrication made for the player or summoned by someone. Monsters don't just appear for no reason in Silent Hill. They come from something and for something.
Mary is turned into a monster and while she was guilty of verbal abuse, she was also clearly the victim in that relationship. Meanwhile, James is not made into a monster; Pyramid Head existed before him, and we see dead, untouched James corpses in several places.
Cybil is parasitised, despite her innocence, and Alessa is turned into a monster multiple times, despite her inflicting no harm on the people around her.
@@theMoporter good catch. Though I feel Mary herself is more a product of the town as she is already dead by the events of Silent Hill 2. in one ending she is Maria and by extent very monsterus on the inside. In the other James is and as such Mary as a monster is a punishment. Cybill like Harry is more a victim of Silent Hill's monsters and as such in hesitant to say Cybill being controlled by a monster is the same as her becoming a monster. In all incarnations of Alyssa as well she isn't becoming a monster in the same since as other characters. She is literally taking on the form of God or Demon depending on how well the ritual goes in each game. My point being is that with the lack of info we either have to believe that the town made Lisa in which case we have to ask why or someone summoned her through the power of the town and she is mearly their perception of things. If she isn't a product of the town then she has to hold some guilt making her become a monster. There's just a lot of things that bug me with her as listed above. She seems different compared to a generic monster, too defined and human, acting on personal wants. She's too different to simply compare to any other Silent Hill monster. The more I think about her the less she fits with any monster classification.
This demo proved that it's still possible to do a psychologically terrifying game with awesome graphics, it's such a shame it was stopped
I remember being frustrated cuz you had to do very specific stuff in order to progress or finish it. But the first 15 to 20 minutes was one of the most scariest and unsettling gaming moments.
I mean to be honest , if it wasn't for all players helping other players on forums and what not , we would have never figured out what to do. If they gave us an entire game like that? I would probably be more content watching someone play through it instead of dying 50+ times to Lisa before starting the real adventure. But they hit the horror aspect right on the nail in this one
It may be just me but I’d love a sh4 remake. I know some people hate that game but I think it had the most unsettling and creepy enemies and look out of all of them.
You should analyze the character's and events in the sub-scenario of Silent Hill 2.
P.T. still scares me so much I could barely watch this video!
What are your thoughts on the radio dialogue? I know you said it’s possible that the husband killed Lisa because he believed she cheated on him with the manager (on top of his alcoholism), but have you also seen the theory that he might have been mind controlled (an MK Ultra type situation) as well as many other husbands who committed murders? I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on this, and maybe other aspects of the PT demo as well. Anyways thank you for covering PT, I always enjoy your Silent Hill Symbolism videos and I look forward to the next video!
That's a good point. We do hear about a string of domestic murders committed by husbands on their wives. And even mentions of MK Ultra if I'm remembering correctly. Why mention both if they weren't supposed to be connected somehow?
I just had a thought- what if this was Walter’s mom? That wouldve been really interesting!
This was a good video.
I like that this looks like a suburb, and tract housing, but still scary
good video
Are you going to do a Death Stranding symbolism? That would be cool, great video here 👍
imagine the last moments of the game
is you walking through all of the "familiar" parts of silent hill
suddenly norman reedus starts "flickering" showing glimpses of harry, james heather and henry
showing your character is connected with them
the character reaches the highway.. harry sees him and he crashes
idk that would be cool to me lol
Damn i wish my ps2 still worked. I could go for some Silent Hill 2 right now.
Still one of the only horror games that have a huge impact on me it was absolutely terrifying and creepy navigating the hall in another universe this came out 🥺🥺🥺
In PT i think there is a spider that's in charge of Lisa cause right by the radio amd the gouge it out puzzle is right by the spider near the loop door and the first place you see Lisa out of the bathroom is right there...i have a video on my channel about this very subject so check it out
Oh wow
Is there a longer version of the intro music? I've been asking myself that for a long time and just now had the idea to ask muse / the community
Your so awesome :)
We deserved this game and it is so sad it will never happen.
So I just binged all of this, and may be connecting separate hospitals, but wasn't Heather's stalker fantasizing about shoving his thumb into a nurse's eye, essentially to GOUGE IT OUT like PT Lisa says?
So what would you do if you saw someone that looks just like you on say a subway or bus. How would you handle that situation?
Got a broken 1st gen PS4 with this game on it right now! Damn I'm lucky.
Keep faith you guys. We don't know what's in development currently. I'm really excited to see what happens with this franchise in the future.
im just glad kojima still make games , thats what keep this hope alive since he made this pilot teaser.... If what, pt isnt silent hill, just a title , and the creator can make the same game with different title
Still installed 👍
Love This music
It may also have some analogies with the "Metal Gear Solid V Experience"
I would have killed for this to be made, but I'm one of the conspiracy nuts who believe Silent Hills was never meant to be made and was really just Death Stranding and Kojima's calculated exit.
It's hard to say. I can definitely see inspiration taken from Silent Hills into Death Stranding. So we can see that it at least inspired DS.
They say a silent hill is in production
Honestly if you had every one of these smart devices linked up in your home, and gave Hideo Kojima consent to access them…god only knows what you’d be in for. It’d be like that Michael Douglas film The Game.
I love that the radio is playing some Swedish program. Does swedish sound scary to the rest of the world?
Holy shit you are smart
I somehow thought we were playing the husband the entire time :S
how did I miss this one?
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Who needs silent hill when you have pachinko machines! .......i hate you Konami
David Medford #Fuckkonami
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I wonder if Norman's character is the husband? 🤔
The game, that probably revive psycological silent hill horror and bring the serie back to the table... I wish there is a lost playable game after the demo somewhere in konami's Office...
Konani just hinted strongly that there is a new Silent Hill game in the works right now!!
Any word on the development team?
Considering their outsourcing of the series after 4 and the breakup Kojima had with Konami, I'm super doubtful it'll be up to the quality of the first games. Konami hasn't been a company concerned with quality in a long, long time.
SageofAges_PPN it Will likely be like Metal gear survive
@@Poppy_and_ponies Probably unfortunately.
SageofAges_PPN yep
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Obviously this was a gift from G%# and then Coveted by $@+@n as punishment for that sinful fruit incident 😢
I'd hoped this video would address the theory that PT is about Kojima knowing he was going to get fired and using the game to shoot Konami one last middle finger ("The only me is me, are you sure the only you is you" = "I'm Hideo Fuckin' Kojima, son, how many gamers care about Konami more than me?"; "Then one day he kills us all! I'm not complaining, I was dying of boredom anyway, but I will be coming back and I'm bringing my new toys with me" = "Working for Konami sucks, so I'm not mad you're firing me, but I'm gonna make my own video game company with blackjack and hookers"). I don't know if that theory is accurate, though.
BTW, did you ever watch this rather lengthy theory video (all text dumps too) about P. T. being actually the engineered nightmares of MGS characters? czcams.com/video/IeIRa2uyvwg/video.html
To think we could have lived in a world where people endlessly debated wether Silent Hill 2 or Silent Hills was the best game in the series
"let's explore the meaning of a teaser meant to get people ready for a non existent silent hill game" except there is none
If this game is ever going to be made, probably not, using today's game engines could make this a horror show
I wasn't a fan of the direction this was heading in, not at all. Didn't feel very Silent Hill to me. But it's still a shame for it to never have been completed, and it's still a neat thing by itself that it's a shame people can't play any more. Was hoping you'd show some footage from the trailer in your video - that was a rather nice sequence, and kinda forgotten by now. I like the lopsided monster in it.
Playable Teaser. The real tease was that there was never going be a game, PT was the game
that’s exactly what i’ve been saying
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The woman did nothing wrong and the child was her and his child. The man simply did make it up and the radio calls are just the voices in his head telling him his wife was unfaithful. In the end Lisa defended herself and killed her husband because of his actions towards there baby.
AJ, I do believe that we come back to earth after we die if we have not done the quest God wants us too. This is why I remember past life's, like, The Black Plague. What do you think of this?
So it's like Spider-Verse...Silent Hill-verse.
GASP...Silent Hill Ham!