CHINESE ELECTRIC SPORTBIKE | Full RANGE TEST on One Charge
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Today, we find out what the range is on this 120AH battery and 8KW hub motor electric sportbike from China. I will say it isn't quite as much as I expected, but it wasn't bad for going full throttle the whole time. But I'm still very impressed with this bike for the cost. Hard to judge the bike unless you're on it yourself. Thanks for tuning in!
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Super secret project starting yesterday??? Sign me up
Ooooo, a new electric project? ⚡️⚡️
Maybe it's using the old hub motor and controller?
I have a feeling it’ll be bigger 🤞🏼
@@hughjaynis168 u got a heart. Its definitely going to be big.
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Best lemon into lemonade story i've ever witness
83 Miles !!! That"s more than enough for daily commute, considering full on throttle. I must say, you have done a good job building it. Hands down this is The most nicest DIY EV video series I have seen... Huge love all the way from India... Keep Posting bro !
I am building this one in Pune, will pick up an old splendor or cd dawn chassis, already have got the part from alibaba, it will be fast and sweet. Trying to cut down on battery cost
@@MegaShiznit101 want to see it, connect Instagram @electricbikewale
Problem isn't the range, it's the blue-wrap cells in it. Lowest quality batteries you can get. Probably not good for a hundred cycles let alone 500.
Bhai english samaj nahi ati , koi batayo yr kitnai kilometer chali ye bike
@@Ravisharma... 133.5 km
Electric bikes have come a long way. I've been looking into the dirt bike version.
But he converted this to electric.
@@jaredshelton4718 no it was already electric
hmm yeah but the really good non Chinese ones are super expensive like $22,000 - $85,000 price range, have top range of 125 miles, a 0 to 60 of 3 seconds with a charging station time of 20 to 30 minutes, weigh anywhere from 460 to 665 lbs, and have a top speed of 125 to 150 mph (they actually put a built in limiter on the ones that 150 mph for battery consumption and safety reasons so technically they could go even faster if that limiter was off).
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Your videos are inspiring me to work on my bike to become like this :)
Thank you for all your links for all the parts you've used too
So glad to see you back. Thanks Inja.
Thank you Inja, you are very thorough, really enjoy watching your videos. Im in the process of upgrading my Grom clone, and your info is very helpful in the process.. 👍👍👍😎💪
A great project guys. Looking forward to the next one 👍
Thanks for taking us along for a ride with the development of your e-bike. As the battery industry gets more involved with graphene batteries or graphene hybrids, interested to know if you guys would consider upgrading the cells to those. Totally agree on minimizing regen braking as that wears out the battery quicker... some regen brakes are known to pump up absurd amperes back into the battery just over a short duration of a few seconds. One of the ways i setup my e-scooter was to only have minimal regen braking kick in only when the brakes are actuated by tying up a switch to the brake lever/light. This would definitely call for an adjustment to riding style, but it allows me to coast where possible and prolong battery life.
Its always good to see a new video from you man I hope you and your family are well and congrats on the huge step forward with getting a new place
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hands down the most awaited video in recent EV biking enthusiastic community !!!
Good work bro.
Your hard work and results motivates me lot.. Nice to see your everyday progress..
Keep it up. 🙂👍🏽
This is really impressive good job inja great work 💪👍
One of the most interesting electric bike proyect on YT, you should make a dual sport next time
not rly... check out Damon motorcycle , Energica Ego / Eva .. and the one and only Lightning electric bikes...
I'm really impressed with the performance and range increase you got with these mods, and someone else may have mentioned this, but those 18650 batteries will start giving even more range after 8 or 10 full charge/discharge cycles. That said, you should get close to 100 mi. at near full throttle, and possibly as much as 150 mi. in town. Nice work!! ;-)
Been waiting for this video to come out thank you for all the content you put out keep up the great work 👌
My pleasure 🙌🏽
Dude. I recognize where you're riding. I used to work at the DIY garage in Clovis. Moved away in February. Would have been nice to check out the bike. Ride safe and have fun.
I was not expecting that kind of range, I was just betting on 40 miles, I’m really wanting to build one now
I'm glad to see that you are enjoying your motorcycle.
Def low voltage cut. Check your cells discharge curve. For example 84-74v could be around 75% of power even though min is 60v. Great work
I really enjoyed this build. The two of yous really make me want to build my own , but the bike I'm looking at is an E Boom . they are the electric version of a Grom clone.
Maybe as your next build you do an Electric Grom clone . They only go 50 mph / 50 miles . see if you could increase the top speed while trying to double it's range.
As always I enjoyed this video. It seems as if you have built a very solid commuter bike. For a person that lives in a city, this would be perfect. It honestly looks like a lot of fun. With all the personal touches, I think this bike is turning out to be something pretty special. If ever one day you grow tired of it and would like to put it on the market, please let me be one of the first you contact. Very serious. I watched all of the videos from beginning to end so I know what it took to get this bike to the point if you have it now. I would not at all lowball you. No pressure and all patients. Just let me know in the late future because I know you're going to have fun with this thing for years LOL. As always be safe and have fun brother. I hope to see more of your projects very soon. Cheers!
Message me in a few months.
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Love this story. Keep up the awesome vids
Great video as always keep up the good work tell lord curt he’s awesome !!!
Sweet range
Hey, that's pretty good range! This thing just keeps delivering! Is your fan on a thermostat? That might save you a couple of volts an hour maybe? As always, excellent video. 😁
Been watching what you have done here and am more than impressed, I used to be a biker untill I had a nasty little collision that broke my knees, This brings me to what I am thinking, Electric wheelchair users are ripped off all the time by the major firms that build them, I think you could do a better job than they can probably at a far better price. Just an idea but would love to hear your thoughts on the matter. Keep up the great work
Well done bro! Thanks for the video
For sure, thanks for watching ☕
Not bad awesome build bro can’t wait to see what’s next
Your mind bout to explode. New series starting in the next couple weeks and it's HUGE
2023 Spring. Would love to see this build revisited. You did God's work for many of us.
You should try to duct some air over the controller from the front of bike or through tank then you can up your regen substantially. Great build
I got similar range with my Yamaha R6. In full throttle it also goes somewhere around 150km (90miles) before the tank is empty. :D
these are so dope wish i could afford to get one of these would save so much money getting to work, i know what im saving for! E-bikes are the future!!!
crazy how much you changed in the time you got this bike i been building my own little 350w electric scooters but i got my big ebike with a 55ah 16s 2p chevy volt battery running 6kw i get up to 85 mph but its getting dismantled because had the bike for almost 7 years now 3 motor swap 5 controllers and im afraid the aluminum frame may start to develop cracks i have for sure over 100k miles on it its been my daily driver for that many years i had 4 different batteries first was a 36v lifepo4 2nd 36v 14ah lithium 3 was a 72v 20ah and the 4th is the one im using 55ah 16s 2p wish i could get one of these i saw a motorycle like yours for 2300 in curacao but only says 30mph 30ah 72v battery lithium display is different and is set to mph so i may get it its a local store
Your in excellent position now if solid state batteries are a real thing in near future, that would near double your range...but it would initially be expensive.
Im curious as to how much more range you would get at a more agressive regenerative brake setting. Like maby do a test at 50% then another at 100%.
Awesome project! Ive been following it from the beginning. I love your videos man keep it up!
Regen on a light motorcycle doesn't really do that much. Likely a few mile improvement, like 5 maybe.
Great ! Just great ! Suits me just fine for the mileage I do. Regards. Trinidad & Tobago.
all the struggles and hardships, washed away after all :) definitely worth it!!!
Absolutely!
Great job on the bike series. Will be watching Great videos. It's to bad you cannot adjust the battery while on the road. It wouldn't leave you stranded again.
Binge watched this whole series over the last couple of days and even forwarded it to a few friends as it has been a great source of information on a future project I'm thinking of doing. Hopefully I remembered to click like on all your videos to show my support. Couple of questions, firstly is there any chance of getting a detailed video from you and lord Curt on how to set up and programme the controller as a stand alone video. Secondly I have a super soco tc max electric bike and have found that the range varies a lot if when I'm going at it's top speed I don't leave the throttle pinned wide open, so was wondering for this test did you just keep it pinned once you were flat out or did you back off once up to speed? Reason I'm asking is I'm thinking of building a bigger capacity battery for it buy want to make sure it's going to be worth it before I do. Thanks and keep up the awesome videos
Mostly full throttle or near full throttle on this test. 👌🏽
At full throttle that range is up there with the best, although your home build battery is probably more than twice the size of a stock electric bike battery. My Evo is 40ah but at full throttle I can expect 25-30 miles range. In the City nearer to 50 miles.
This is really kool. My dad and I build ebikes and so far the fastest we built is my dad 5K and we with the set up we hit over 70mph it’s capable of higher speed but just feels so scary
It uses the same voltage at low speed as it does at high speed because . However it uses less current at low speeds than at high speeds.
Battery charge & discharge rate is governed by Coulomb's Law.
I'd have to move the rear brake to the right pedal, especially if riding conventional bikes also. A brief moment of subconscious confusion could lead to a front brake only emergency stop crash when later riding a conventional bike.
Right, more load means more amps and also means voltage drop while under load
Noctuas being described as pretty decent...they're like one of the best you can get for your PC LOL
Use your regenerative breaking more will help with getting more distance... love watching
In the city I can, country I can't
So Solid! I'm Amped! Salute
Hi, good range. Probably next project , you install crank set ?😀
I bought the Voltage meter/USB charger combo for 89cents shipped from China, it has shown to be a more reliable design + You can charge through USB.
I’ve had one of those battery volt meters you have and it got wet then broke. I suggest getting a waterproof one
Wattage/Amperage meter is also good to have, you tend to catch if there is something suspicious going on. How much torque you have there?
If you want to keep the battery healty for as long as possible, if you do not normally need the full range. Consider only charging it to 80 or 70%. It is not only at close to empty that these batteries take extra wear from the charging cycles.
As a reference and practical test you could try AccuBattery app to monitor the health of the battery in your phone.
Quick question, could you put a slightly larger watt hub on the front, to charge as you ride ?
Coming soon two weeks from now I might need some help upgrading the speed I got the black ninja medium for 1800 electric.to bad I can’t add a picture here.
Are electric bikes automatics? Great vlogs btw, love your presentation skills.
I see you have quite a collection of motorcycle now.
Could you please do a garage update on all the motorcycle 😁
For sure, coming soon!
Can you please post a link to the brake pads you bought . I have the same bike and don’t know which pads to buy
Well thanks, that thing is totally usable around town for a whole week and should be good for non super long country runs. Once you get the overheat and safety shut down figured it will be awesome. 👍Onwards and upwards from here and looking forward to the super secret project.
It's already all figured out, it is now 100% finished!
@@TheInja So you end up grafting in the fan or did fixing the loose wire mostly take care of it. Anyway great news. 👍
Inja have you ever thought of looking at solar panels to help keep the battery
Cheers I enjoyed that, Being a shift worker could you do some city/suburb night riding, would like to see how the volts handle the lights being on, short rides 15 minute and a 30min ride would be great length and as I see it night riding/driving has less traffic so it should be fairly smooth on the battery, but with the lights on will it make much or any difference at all, Cheers again Ride Safe.
Lights were on, and I rode it for almost 3 hours on this one charge
Hi Inja,did the installation of the fan stop the bike from cutting out?
What a beautiful machine 😍
California gauge of stormy and windy is different than where I live LOL. Great project. What was the final outcome of this project?
Here's a suggestion as you like to tinker with these things, well you kinda got dropped in the deep end but never mind you learned a lot.
Anyway to the suggestion, why not fit a top box on the back, and use it as a country ride battery pack, also a tank bag could be adapted for those country rides as well.
So let's say you decide to go out for a ride in the country but feel the range just won't cut it, you just plug in your top box battery pack which would probably give you an extra 40/60 miles, and for those extra long journeys slap on a tank bag that has been adapted into a battery bag.
If you have the batteries lying around anyway that is.
Perhaps that original Chinese battery I don't recall if you made use of it in some way.
But keep it as a plug in extra range battery that you can simply slot on the back of your bike as a top box.
I could literally watch this guy's vids all day. Something about his voice and demeanor actually makes you feel like your right there in the garage with him. Humble outlook too.
Good shit bro 👍
8:40 should make the battery voltage slightly higher then the motor spec so voltage sag doesn't effect range
where did you get the bike from??? I am looking forward to getting one myself
I have two questions.
1) re Brakes. What replacement pads/rotors would you need to use?
2) how much mileage did you get, once you hit 65v?
Thanks mate, these are great videos, you should be rightly chuffed with what you've built!
Regenerative braking has to do with the hub motor switching between using battery power to accelerate and using the vehicle's momentum at speed to create power while decelerating to recharge the battery like an alternator would
Brakes are direct replacement with 2008-2012 Ninja 250. So that's easy and cheap!
Only like 4-5 miles before I was stranded after the first cutoff
Have you made a test? How many miles does the regenerative charge ads to the miles throughout a ride?
When your bike is fully charged its 82 volts so what's is the cut off voltage I know my scooter is 67 volts fully charged and its cut off is 50 volts and I'm 250lbs I get about 25-30 miles
Good cells can take fast charge. As an example, Samsung 20s 18650 can 2A charge. If you charge and discharge correctly, they'll last three or more years. If you use crappy cells, they'll obviously damage easier as they're not rated for more than 800mah charging. Crappy cells also lack power and usually overrated on the amps and capacity. You end up damaging them without proper knowledge. My mate and me built an electric motorcycle. We were using Samsung 40T 21700 cells. We can get the cells charged to full in a few hours. Range is around 138 miles on average. One year on, cells are at 84% health.
What's the update on this bike? How are you using the bike so far?
What your feedback after months of using this?
Where can I get this software to upgrade and update my Phantom F1, and a better charger.
hey brotha did you have to register the bike with the city if so how hard was the process?
Also would you recommend a company were I can get a electric bike I can up grade
I just started watching your channel great stuff my ? is IS there any way you can put a solar panel that you can buy to charge the bike while you ride it
Nope, it would have to be a HUGE solar panel. That's why it doesn't exist. Some people have tried but nothing successful or sustainable.
Hey, are you using the music player during the rides? Or is it more for when parked, also how badly does the player drain the battery? Thanks I'm genuinely curious 😊
More for just music and stuff while I'm working, not too much drain! Could run the speakers for a couple weeks at high volume straight before the battery died
I don't know much about this things but I've had one as well, and I gotta tell you that you shouldn't leave them unused for awhile, when you don't have plans to go out just have the battery drain a bit and charge it again or else the battery life will completely just go down and down till it dies like what happened to mine
For sure
Great job! I'm doing a full DIY ev conversation on my custom 71 Harley Sportster using the QS Motor 8000w v4 72v 6x17. Full build, speed and range test over ther next month on my channel! Keep up the great videos!
That’s a no no making a Harley a electric bike nooooo
It's a pity that you don't have some sort of onboard Solar panel to extend the range or try to convert the kinetic energy into potential energy Via a scaled up alternator etc l
Lithium batteries... thats how they roll, hold on strong to the very end... then drop like a rock.
And a 1c charge rate (even 1/2C) will dramatically reduce your charge time if you can pull the amps and wont hurt your battery life. I have been charging lithium ions and li-poly batteries at 1c for over a decade. I dont push them harder than that though.
When did he get it street legal and register it? I didn't see anything about it in the series 🤷🏻♂️.
Thats a noctua fan nice choice !!!
Hey bud can you link your mirrors I like them . I have the same style Chinese bike just a 250cc
I solved the take off speed of my direct drive rear hub with a 750w front geared befang hub motor which is faster off the start helping rear motor to get to speed.
83 miles, wow...thats pretty decent for a "own build" electric motorcycle! - If you now cut off these "0 to 60 in 2.7 seconds" to minimize the Amps (or the power draw peak) going from battery to the Motor to have longer range, could you test that? so then the bike would accelerate in 6 secs to 60 or something similar, but you didn´t have the power drop so much faster......is that an idea?
Damn Inja you growing Fast As Hell
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Pumped 💯
83 miles/133km. That was really a good range. In my country, 50-60km range on an electric bike is the best you can have. We don't have lithium batteries because it is so hard to find a legitimate supplier here and it costs too much. We only have lead acid batteries and it weighs a ton. 40km on my bike is good and I'm happy with it but 133km? I would love that bike more than I do with my girlfriend.
Hahaha! (Hope she doesn't see this)
Never fit a voltage readout.
My mate has one on his ebike and he just frets all day as his volts drop.
I ride till it conks and carry a get me home 5ah batt in my backpack.
Is the bike Bluetooth connected. If so maybe set up a program that would give you a reserve function like on a gas bike. You know just enough to get you somewhere other then on the side of the road.
Also have it with a speed limiter so you don't damage the batteries.
Not a bad idea!
Hey man love the content wish I could go back time purchase one those electric bikes ... I got send lemon from vemom motorssports
If u get chance check out my review
Definitely close to the current benchmark motorcycle the zero sr.not bad for a hub motor and diy battery
Zero sr is 70 hp and 116 lb ft of torque as well as 223 miles city and 112 miles highway range.
I would like to know the website where you bought it from
What was the rated watts for the bike? Was it 1500 or 2000 or 3000?
The reason electric cars can fast charge is because the high voltage they use. 400v is fairly standard, the industry is trending towards 800v though. I charge my ebike with a bigger charger than that so you're all good to move up to something way faster. Lots of chargers with adjustable current too so you can quick charge or slowly charge overnight. Just remember if charging overnight, lithium batteries do not suffer trickle charging well at all.
It's a real sweet ride. it'll take you a while to iron out the bugs and get it how you like it, but once you do, they just go and go and go. It's astonishing how little maintenance they need. The only thing I'd change, is the controller. The config for it is barren. I forgot how bland kelly controllers are. Sure, they're reliable and work well, just lacking many tweaks and parameters that make fun happen. Enjoy your bike, but keep it in the back of your mind, if you want the dank nooners, upgrade that controller some day ;)
Oh btw, awesome battery, I was sceptical of the chinese cells, but it's running pretty damn good!
What electric bike do you have and is it designed for faster charging? Keep in mind that faster charging gets the batteries hotter than when riding them so cooling is essential. Cars that charge with high voltage tend to have water cooled batteries to keep them cool. Inja has zero battery cooling so he has to keep the temperatures under control.
Stop buying anything from China
@@johnrice6670 Who are you to tell people what they should do?
@@JasonWW2000 He's John fucking Rice.
@@JasonWW2000 in some vehicles. Yes water cooling can help. I'm from the UK so not something that ever kicks in here lol.
I'm not suggesting a 130kw charge, just more than 5A lol.
I run a 24s7p made with lg hg2 cells and charging at 10A it barely increases pack temp by more than a couple degrees. It could take 28A max, but that would require active cooling.
Just wondering. I just bought one without the battery pack but the seller don't want to tell me the maximum battery pack size I can fit in these motorcycle . Can someone please help with the maximum size that will fit in it ?? Much a appreciated .
How did you get this registered? Also, I'm just guessing you're in cali, how much are you getting insurance for. Have a great day, and have been watching these vids since you bought the bike. Keep em up👍
Soon to come. Like $200/year for good insurance coverage
What battery you use Broski? Not stock right?
Oh, a secret? Not bad, head winds are tough!
How difficult is it to plate these bikes without branding, vin#, ownership permits?? I want to import a 20kw bike, and I'm curious.
Where did you get it and how much
what is the power cut down reason?