MODIFIED CAR MYTHS vs THE DEVON CORNWALL POLICE | BIG TURBOS, DRUGS & MORE!
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2020
- In today’s video, we take another look into some of the most commonly asked questions in regards to modifying your car and more specifically the UK road law.
Joined by MPS Owen Messenger ( a keen car fanatic himself - message attached below ) we dive into some seriously hot topics such as flamer kits, big turbos, declaring modifications, drink & drugs and much more.
A huge big thanks to Owen Messenger for getting involved and answering everyone's questions.
Big plans for future videos so don't forget to subscribe to be kept up to date with new videos.
All official legislation links have been included below :
www.legislation.gov.uk
www.cps.gov.uk
www.drinkaware.co.uk
Fixing of front number plates
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...
Lights - please note where it says ‘anything that looks like a blue flashing light’. If for example you have blue fog light covers and are driving along a bumpy road this could look like a blue flashing light.
www.ukemergency.co.uk/blue-lig...
S4 Road Traffic Act - unfit to drive through drink or drugs. This offence does not require a limit. The safest way is to not drink at all. When investigating unfit through drugs we look for a vast number of drugs in bloods, not just cannabis and cocaine.
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...
Construction and Use - Exhausts
Exhaust gases from an external wastegate must be routed back into the exhaust system BEFORE the catalytic converter if one is required to pass the emissions test.
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...
MoT - Exhausts
Please see 8.1 and 8.2 for MoT regs.
www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspe...
A short message from Owen.
Wow, such an amazing response to the first two videos, thank you, we never expected this. Thank you also to those who left constructive comments or questions, I do try and read them all. I will try and answer as many as I can but we only have time for so many. We can’t cover every make or model of vehicle. For instance, if your car didn’t have a catalytic converter from the factory, clearly it won’t need one now.
What George and I are trying to do is give you information and advice around what you can and can’t do to your car. The legislation/law is complex sometimes and things like the Flamer Kit Act or Screamer Pipe Act don’t actually exist but are covered under the Construction and Use Legislation and/or the MoT Manual in some way with regards to exhausts. I have tried to keep things as simple as possible for you to make it as clear as I can. We could argue all day about semantics or whether we agree with it or not but the fact remains that it is there so we have to comply with it.
We are doing this to try and help you make the right decisions on what you do to your car. This isn’t a PR exercise or about persecuting modified car enthusiasts, it’s about making you aware of why sometimes we have to deal with issues and what you can do to help avoid yourselves getting stopped or in trouble.
As in many walks of life, it is the minority that let down the majority. You asked why the car scene was frowned upon and a lot of the time it is because of the behaviour of the minority spoiling it for everyone. If people not into the car scene see modified cars being driven poorly then they see the whole scene as a problem. There is a place for doing wheelspins and doughnuts or driving at speed but it’s not on the public roads. Race the track, not the road if you want to see what your car can do. Motorsport is dangerous but the track at least limits that risk to an extent.
Unfortunately, we do have to go and clear up when things go wrong which happens a lot more than you think or people will tell you. It’s something that I hope you will never experience. It is also why we are passionate about reducing casualties on the road. Sometimes enforcement is our only option but we are under no incentive either financially or performance-wise to issue tickets. We don’t make the laws but we are obliged to enforce them as we have a duty of care to the public.
Stay safe and I hope you enjoy the video.
MPS Owen Messenger
D&C/Dorset Roads Casualty Reduction Team
Thanks to Learn to live for providing the Honda Civic Type R for today's video, expect lots to come with them so stay tuned.
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Wish every copper was like this. Speaks sense and loves cars. So much respect for both of you
Alot of them are from my experience, at least the traffic guys anyways
What I absolutely love about this series, is how informative it is as well as being interesting. I think police working with car content CZcamsrs has been a long time coming. I’ve always felt the police have missed a trick when it comes to working with people in the car scene. Amazing work 👍🏼 I am all for having fun, as long as it is safe. As they say ‘ it’s all shits and giggles is until someone giggles and shits’.
It would be great to see a demo of a roadside pull-over and walkthrough of what they're looking for
Pull over when safe. Engine off and key on the dash. Window down and give licence or details when asked. Do not be rude or a dick... if we have spotted an offence you're possibly getting a ticket for it, but a good attitude might get you out of it. If you have been pulled over without an offence being committed, your attitude might result in the officer finding something wrong with your car and giving you a ticket for it. A perfect example was an uber driving was pulled over for the manner of his driving. It was arguably without due care. He acted the child and refused to take any ownership, and before you know it he was being reported for a variety of offences, and a trained traffic officer gave his vehicle a once over and prohibited it. Some people think its "pandering". It isnt. If you give off the impression that you understand what I am saying and why it needs to be fixed, why do I need to send you to court? If however, I get the impression you think I am wasting your time then you obviously do not understand why the issue needs fixing, and the court can argue it out.
The attitude test is slowly dying out across England because there are too many people saying cops are pulling cars over without issuing tickets, and this is because words of advice are given. I imagine within the next five years or so, words of advice won't be a thing- so may as well abuse it whilst you can!
(Obviously sometimes you cannot get yourself out of a ticket. Insurance. Licence. That sort of stuff)
Only stupid people think the police are stupid.
Late to the channel but I jumped a red light with a copper sat next to me, thought he was gonna pull me cos my phone was resting on the dash for my sat nav. As soon as he lit me up I indicated left, stopped, turned off the engine and wound my window down. He took my details and told me I'd made a mistake and not to worry about it. I could've killed some one. It was the left filter light that went green and I was in a luton van so it was at my eye level. That was in Liverpool a few months back, really nice bloke@@altbergp1930
Last time I came this early my girlfriend left me
Can relate ;)
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she's fine
Other end of the scale me, she left because I always came to early. On the way home from work kinda early 🤷🏻♂️
It wasn't because of that Charles.
Can I also add that not only is the video informative, but you put a shed load of info in the video description.
You're a top bloke George.
😍😍
This series is soo interesting and helpful
MPs Owen is right George you should get under glow but use them for show purposes only
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i agree it is good to have but like Owen said use it when allowed
These videos are very informative and helpfull bro. Mr Owen is a decent acknowledgable copper who is an enthusiast just like the rest of us and who wants to keep us safe at the end of the day. Keep up the great content👍🏼
Another awesome video mate loving the content and the police interaction is fantastic, answering a lot of questions for me and I guess a lot of other modded car enthusiasts, keep them coming !
Still got the green fog lights i see👁🗨
Please do headlight tint mate , yellow headlight tint aswell and the legalities of it
Really enjoying these videos, I mean it's not only talking about illegal stuff but also stuff that'll straight up attract the attention of the police
This series is brilliant. I am a very big supporter of our police forces in general. It’s really good to see officers embracing the scene we all love in a sensible and good manner
"Do not smoke Cannabis"......me toking on a fat one while watching this vid🔥🙈
Don't drive for at least 12 hours after you smoke one, just saying... could easily lose your license if you get a random stop.
@@_Professor_Oak are you ok after 12 hours?
your allowed to only on prescription
@@_Professor_Oak looks like it's days. Cannabis traces can be detected up to about 28 days after, even though there's no effect after just a few hours. Bllx or wot.
I've really been enjoying this series, hope you do more! Owen is a star. you've got a sub from me
On wraps, thanks George! That's a fair point about cloning of plates, etc. Now see, I didn't knownthe DVLA had changed this, so glad I asked 😄
Great info these videos, they really are just perfect. What a great idea to do them.
Genuinely impressed with this Rozza's car / model knowledge!
Another great video, keep up the good work! Would be interesting to see his views on the car scene now compared to what it was late 90's/ early 2000's
Thanks for the upload. I'm a 20 year serving fire fighter. Attitude is number one when driving. I'm all up for modified cars but think about what you do.
Love this series keep it up 👍🏼
Great videos guys. This bridge of police and car guys is good for all of us.
Yet again, another fantastic episode. What a top copper!
Actually really enjoyed this, nice one!
This is informative - as someone driving a 7 seater children's limo. Didn't know my car comes with a front tint (just checked - it did!)
These videos are fantastic. Keep them coming
Thanks so much man! Means a lot. Feel like it’s really missing from the car scene on CZcams so we’re here to help. We have so much coming you’ll blow your load ;)
Your foglight covers are still green xd
Great vid tho.
Another great video George, interesting info
Great series, caused me to sub, I’m caught between 2worlds, I have a modified Impreza that’s not exactly legal right now, but I’m a public services student going into the police, luckily my car is off the road whilst I make it more legal and use my wife’s smart car 😂 great series again, new sub!
Great video george look forward to next one.
Another good video. Cant wait for more.
Loving these videos 😎
Hey George, I'm relatively new to your channel but have to say the videos are interesting and informative, it also great to see a police officer with genuine interest in cars and who seems really approachable. I do have a question however, maybe you could put it to him, the question is in regards to CBD oil, there is a case in America where a trucker that used CBD oil (supposedly a THC free substance) was stopped and drug tested, failed and has subsequently lost his job and I think he lost his licence too. Would the tests the police carry out over here show up for CBD, which is completely legal? Thanks Mate, and good luck on growing your channel
Another great video man 👌
Owen is a quality guy. A lot of Police officers are genuinely interested in cars and are just looking out for people. I've seen some modded cars in my time that deserved pulling over!! 😂👍
Very informative thank you wish more police would be supportive
Can you do a video about motorcycles and what they look for?
Insightful information, thanks
Always found uk traffic officers have a more real world attitude, this is a good series.
Another great video and fantastic thumbnail 🤪
Really good to see the police like this
Very informative!!!
Flamer kit act 2020! 😂 lol! Owen's clearly an enthusiast like us, would the average officer would know if someone was running an external WG and/or no cat. Asking for a friend! 😎👍
I don't understand how he can be an enthusiast without occasionally breaking the laws he works to enforce. Every car enthusiast has booted the throttle on the road at least a few times, nobody spends time and money modifying a road car just to pottle around like a 17 year old with a black-box. I don't condone driving like a twat in built up area's, obviously, but no car enthusiast can tell me with a straight face, that they've never broken the speed limit, or never screeched their tyres "by accident"... Yes, I get they label it all as "accident reduction" and I totally agree that if you cause an accident and hurt people then it's all on you and you should get what's coming to you, but if you didn't hurt anybody during your momentary "anti-social driving" at the local Saturday night car meet and the whole argument is about "oh, but what if this happened..." or "you've upset Dorothy with your loud noises!" then there shouldn't really be a case against you IMO. At the end of the day, I'd put money on the majority of fatal road collisions being down to drunk/tired/distracted drivers, not car enthusiasts booting it (not saying it doesn't happen, but in comparison it's no contest).
Please carry on with these videos
Please ask what's the police's thoughts about jenvey individual throttle bodies on the road with rowdy cams 13:5:1 compression. Big valve head etc. Lsd. Dta ecu etc
Police opinion on aftermarket LED lighting would be a good topic to cover in the next one - that's a mod that potentially has a direct impact on everyone else's driving! A lot of newer cars with LEDs from factory are just as blinding, if not more so than supposed "illegal" kits/kelvins... How would they know to spot and pull you? And would they even bother?
This was on the last video my guy :)
i like your green fog lights.
i have seen cars with tinted headlights and rear lights i understand legally lights have to emit at least 50% of the light.
i also seen you have a cage and harness, i have similar set up in my gt-four. can you ask about cages and harness etc
keep up good videos
Here is a good question if you have a serious accident and they look into your car ie send ecu away and find it had been remapped where do you stand....how were you supposed to know if your not told? is my nan expected to get her micra dynoed to make sure? evertime she buys a new car is she suppose to get it on the rollers ?
I too would like to know this. If i buy a car off gumtree and the seller hasn't said its be remapped how am i supposed to know
"Driving without due care", covers everything from eating an apple to scratching your arse. The same as "I smell cannabis", when you don't even smoke to make you get out of your car. I understand it's for "safety" but seriously in a 350hp front wheel drive car it's hard not to wheelspin just trying to get out of junctions.
In the next video of this series could you find out about canards, aero splitters and diffusers? cheers!
Of u have racing seat and 4 point harness do you need air bags installed or can u gut the interior and is it still legal
The neon rule annoys me, a small car can't have it but a lorry cab can be lit up like Hiroshima!!!!
Regarding the underglow kits, I have often wondered if you'd get away with it if the rear was red, side was amber and front was white.
This is a great series! Respect to Officer Owen for doing this and helping the community!
As someone new to the car scene I was wondering is doing an EGR delete illegal?
EGR is part of your emissions controls. Current MOT rules say if it isn't fitted or doesn't work then it's a fail. And if your car can't pass an MoT at any time and you've been pulled by a copper (with knowledge and a grudge) they can issue prohibition notice or a VDRS which means getting the EGR put back on to be allowed to continue using the vehicle.
You'd have to be really unlucky to get such a copper but they are out there
@@motojojo_ thanks for the info. I heard an EGR delete helps with fuel economy and I was interested in doing so. The information out there was quite unclear as to whether it was legal or not
I know you’ve done a lot on tints. But can you ask about chameleon tint/Colour tint. On all windows. 100% light can go through but it’s red for example
If 100% of light can go through, it wouldn't be red. In order for a tint to be red coloured, it MUST be absorbing wavelengths of light OTHER than red (red is the only colour reflected back, hence you see it). It's impossible to have a colour with 100% passthrough, you wouldn't even be able to see glass with 100%.
I don't know about red chameleon tints - but iridium tints still block light (approx 50%) sufficiently enough to fail a test. For example ultrafilms chameleon tint lets through 78% but as you saw putting it against a factory window can result in only 52% of light being transmitted, which is a fail
Would be interested to see what the rules are on repairs not necessarily upgrades. Does it need to be put on the insurance
Be worth getting him to explain in a video how traffic stops SHOULD be conducted by officers and what rights etc the person being pulled has. Many people still have no idea about what they are obligated to do and what they are not when being pulled over under the road traffic act
Filming this one this weekend haha
@@GCMYT nice one mate. Great series of videos to have!
please talk about it suspension like lowering etc etc
Had two section 59s and the first one wasn't even me driving 🙃
Yes - it applies to both the vehicle and the driver, so if someone else was driving your vehicle when it was issued then you (as the registered keeper) will also be given one so you know that your vehicle is subject to the notice. It wojuld be a bit unfair not to tell you, wouldn't it?
Can you ask about some of the newer cars what have the crackle maps pops and bangs and such already tuned in?
Yes, good one, my mk8 St has those if I use the mapping button to get to 'sport' mode, but if I simply switch off the ESC , I get sport mode without the louder exhaust, result !!, if I could I would have the pops and bangs mapped out, but that would be a modification.
Very cool and intelligent policeman👍
How much of this applies to older cars that are pre-2001, specifically the exhaust systems and noise levels? Also, if a tyre is DOT approved or has come from Asia and has legal tread but isn't E marked is it illegal?
What about an exhaust cut off? I'm assuming it falls under the same issues with waste gates and screamer pipes?
My guy is looking u to spend 10k for insurance with declaring everything
That's ridiculous. Why should someone be spending that much on insurance!? It's guaranteed to put off any young enthusiast from modifying their car and having fun with the hobby. The relatively few bad apples in the hobby ruin it for everyone else.
@@syberracer2984 aye ano like my car is “stock” to insurance but secretly it’s got a hybrid turbo and bigger injectors and other shit and it’s still 2,300 would hate to see what it would be like declared
@@cameron8182 are insurance company's that specialise in modified cars sometimes won't put your insurance up unless you're a young/starter driver or you've claimed through the insurance in past
i just drive without any
@@cameron8182 be careful getting about that. If you get into an accident, or even just a bumper touch, your insurance company may refuse to cover you. If they refuse to cover you, you're technically driving without insurance and committing a crime.
Isn't your aftermarket steering wheel illegal as it has no airbag? Would like to know about that
still got the green lights on...
i have a bunch of pretty unique questions relating to a classic car/restomod and legalities, where can i ask them for the next video?
Is there a legal limit to how loud your stereo is? I have a full sound system in a cavalier (not that it’s turned up while driving) but out of curiosity is there a decibel limit of such that you can have it turned up to?
I should imagine if it's loud enough to fail an exhaust sound test (something like 80-90 dBA apparently) it's probably too loud...
If you speak to him again could you ask him about 3D/4D number plates as my mate had them on and he got a 100 pound fine but when he rang dvla and had a look on the dvla website there was nothing saying that you could not have them on the vehicle
Can you go over seats and steering wheels what is legal etc
Is water/methanol injection legal on the road? If I get pulled and they see the tank in the boot but the system is switch off and is used for track days only what would be the outcome?
Nice video
I've got a (temporarily) Picanto 0.sh*t and to get it off the line you have to rev the nuts off it, slip the clutch, keep your foot down, get to 4000rpm and change to second (preferably without letting off the go pedal), and keep accelerating. Cops, Picanto drivers are not trying to be anti social, they're just a ****ing awful car. Great video
Interesting the police officer is doing some aspects of an mot tester routine during a test. However there really isnt a need. You need an mot to drive the vehicle on the road. However some parts of an mot that would pass and advise the officer would pull you over to check or ticket. So this brings the question what good is an mot if one person says it's ok for an officer to say it isnt.
You should put red Ford badges on the front back and wheel of the car it makes the front a lot nicer 😁
Bring Neons back!
What are the rules on low level lighting kits? I.e. Unmarked car lighting kits. Can the public use orange hazard kits? Are we not allowed to use the blue kits that the Police use? Sounds silly, yet I've seen a few non-Police cars with those kits.
Absolutely true
What's the deal with CZcams videos blatantly showing a driver speeding?
Are HGVs exempt from the lighting laws? The number that have really bright additional lights on the van is ridiculous, including blue! Can be very distracting in the dark and poor weather conditions!
he said you can't have white lights on the rear, what about the numberplate lights they not allowed to be white?
You can have white number plate lights :)
Question for Owen in a next video: What do the police think about insurance companies that say they are for modified/performance/classic cars? I'd like to know as I think some regular car insurance companies don't allow modifications to a car and if they do, it's a vast increase in price that will put off younger drivers getting into the hobby.
So I don’t have a modified car. But have a slightly modified Motorbike. Is there legal limit on how fast I can get up to the speed limit? Because my bike can get up to 60mph in 3 seconds. Would I be breaking the law to do the 0-60 in 3 seconds if I stop at 60.
Is it legal to Engine swap? how does this work for emissions rules and MOT? Does it need an SVA tesT?
Yes, engine swaps are legal, an engineers report is usually required for the insurance and the DVLA have to be notified. Emissions... can't remember, best check with DVLA but I think it depends on age of engine or vehicle (the older applies).
Aftermarket steering wheels?
bucket seats, steering wheels and harnesses?
Can you have window tint if you have a convertible I have limo tints on mine
How much BHP on ur Focus ST and have you done other mechanic mods than block mod? Like camshafts, crankshaft, pistons?
Bro I’ve documented every modification I’ve ever done haha. :) take a look on the channel :)
So what I’m hearing purple under glow is ok 👌🏼
This is very interesting
Can you ask about windscreen stickers
What are police officers opinion on widebody
Top copa👍👍
Agreed! He’s defo a top bloke
It’s now the DVSA as well as the DVLA with licensing
what about lift kits on 4x4
Stretched tyres ? Even if fitted to tyre brands specs of wheel Width ect.
What about dpf deletes / rolling coal??
Hello ,
Can some one tel mee where the foglight can buy ?? And ship to Holland
Can you find out about stick on plates on the front bud
Already covered in last video- not aloud
@@cookz-bs10gaming have I missed one? I remember both part 1 and 2 and don't remember it. Will watch back over part 2 I think
@@robsawyer9519 yeah. Part one. Sticky pads and screws okay. But stuff like Velcro and magnetic plates are a no no
@@lewisblacker6394 found that bit in part 2. Will just re align my current plate with screws then
@@robsawyer9519 mines on the sticky pads. Think they look tody
Well that’s me screwed LOL
Caught on camera - Police officer illegally tinting windows on side ;o