I think I'm going to do this exact setup. I already have the 3" spacer on the front with the ADO high clearance UCAs and I wanted to upgrade the shocks. I was hoping to keep the spacers and honestly this setup is a much better option than just running the Billstiens at full height. This was very helpful. Have you had any issues with brake lines or CVs since?
Thinking I am about to do these on my Fronty. I got the strange engineering lift on mine but need to do UCA's too. I've had it on for a while but it rides like shit and I am finally figuring out the UCA and bilsteins will probably do a good job of settling down the crappy handling.
So you didn’t take out the spacer on top of the spring. And use the adjustable Bill Steen shocks. You have both space or lift and Bill Steen shocks. Did you use the tallest setting on the Bill Steen shocks.? For a total of 5 1/2 inches
No I kept the spacer vs adjusting the bilstein. The reason is when I went to use the spring compressor it put sooo much pressure on the spring to collapse it enough to do the lift seemed like the ride was going to be really harsh. With the spacer on top, compressed the spring to stock height and it seemed like it worked better as the spring was not nearly as compressed and the ride quality was much better. Hard to explain but you’ll see when you install it. It takes a ton of pressure to get that spring in the top notch.
Sick rig! Was wondering if i can run the titan swap but just use bilstein 5100’s and a 3” spacer. This way i have the 3” and some room to play with the 5100’s.
Thanks. Don’t think you can with Fronty Bilsteins and 3” spacer. That’s not enough lift. Usually you need about min 4” lift for the Titan swap to work correctly as the mounting points on the lowers are pushed out 3” on each side.
Where did you get your wheel spacers do you have a link for them? Also did you need them to clear the upper control arm after your 3" lift or did you need the spacers just to clear the fender Wells with the 33's? Thanks!
Here are the wheel spacers I used. Just make sure you always get the Hubcentric. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F382477418134. I added mostly for cosmetic. Gives the truck a good stance, as OEM seemed to hug inside too much.
So you didn't do the after market upper control arms because coil bucket contact right? Just more for looks, because i have read if you do a spacer kit that the UCA will hit the the coil bucket you never had a issues with that? I also was thinking about these shocks as well did you go get a alignment afterwards to?
Also did it help bring the front diff up as well? Other wise did it put the front axle higher up then the hub so the CVs are going downwards to the hub? Reason i ask is i did a calmini DB and my axle now sits lower then my hub so the CVs are pointing downwards from the hub to the axle instead of the other way, so if this picked up your front axle y 3/4 of a inch then im for sure going to do this.
Jeston Hickle No I got the AM upper control arms for the bucket issue and it’s a much stronger part then OEM. Plus it has upgraded ball joint and zerk fittings and u can align these were OEM u can’t. IMHO the AM control arms are a must for this vehicle. It was literally the first upgrade part I bought for my truck.
Jeston Hickle the control arms didn’t lift the front at all, they do allow for better articulation over stock. The spacer kit, 33” MT tires and bilstein have lifted my front end about 4”. My CV’s are pointed downward and not stressed. I also disconnected the sway bar. And man that sway bar was limiting suspension articulation in a major way. Sooo mad I didn’t do it sooner. Truck drives SOOO much better now. Both on and off road. My turning radius has also improved.
Jeston Hickle yes. I thought hey would settle and 500 miles later still about 1” higher then before. I set the Bilstein at stock height and left my spacer in. The set up has worked very well so far. I even ordered a set for the rear.
Because when u compress the spring that much it makes the ride really harsh and limits the travel of the shock. When u use the spacer it relocates the shock lower but doesn’t limit the travel as much as compressed spring would.
I took it out on test run yesterday. Night and day difference. I was not expecting this much change. Ride is excellent, took it through some deep ruts and cross sections off road. Handled very well. More articulation with sway bar removed. Just thinking what took me so long to remove it.
HARD ENDURO I have an 06 pathfinder but it’s the single piece bumper with no chrome. Thinking about Maybe doing some trimming but it won’t be as clean an yours
@@HardEnduro8 is there a difference between the adjustable and 3inch ones? I assumed the three inch were preset and you could fork a little more for adjustment.
William Wilkin yes exactly. There is different part number for stock 5125 and long travel 5125. Can’t remember for sure , but if you go on there website they will show the 2 different part numbers.
@@kolbietafoya1672 no. That’s about max you can go without spending mad money on long travel. But if you add 33”s mud tires you’ll get an extra 1.5” lift just from the tires. It will sit real nice with 33’s and 3” spacer lift. You be about 4.5 lift all together
I have a 2011 Xterra pro 4x with a 2” spacer and shackles on the rear. I just put 33” mud terrains on it too. Love it but looking at upgrading from the 4600’s to 5100 and this video was informative. Thanks bro
Hard Enduro, i understand you had a total of 5 inch lift on your front end now. If my truck is all stock with the 5100 on stock height can give me a 3/4 lift? Maybe?
@@HardEnduro8 i was thinking of putting the snap rings in the middle or third slot adjustment in order to gain 2'' of lift. i am not into 1 inch lift spacer. thanks for the reply.
Ray Riva that was my plan. However when i used the spring compressor it just didn’t seem right to put all that pressure on the spring and limit the travel. With the spacer it does not apply nearly as much pressure on the spring to get the same lift. You’ll see what I’m talking about once you remove and spring and see how much pressure it would take to hold it in second position. Good luck
Off road it’s a lot better. Much better articulation. On Frwy u just have to be mindful of slight understeer. Other than that no issues. Love it so far.
Thanks for the response, I’m looking for good replacement front shocks, preferably adjustables, I find the original shocks don’t hold the tire to the road when u hit bumps at 80km/h. Any suggestions?
It’s an old USMC term sorry it offends your thin skin. I don’t make vids for thumbs up, I only make vids to help others, that’s the sole purpose of the vid.
Both your water heaters wouldn't pass inspection 2 things are wrong, first of all the 2 T&P Relief Valve line are supported to drain down ward and they both have a loop which traps water, that creates salt, which impairs the value to open when needed, second both your gS Valves need a dripp line and cap on them, so condensation won't get in the value's.
I think I'm going to do this exact setup. I already have the 3" spacer on the front with the ADO high clearance UCAs and I wanted to upgrade the shocks. I was hoping to keep the spacers and honestly this setup is a much better option than just running the Billstiens at full height. This was very helpful.
Have you had any issues with brake lines or CVs since?
No issues with that set up. It actually worked very well. I have since gone full Titan Swap as I started to do more rock crawling and harder lines.
Sweet. Looks cool bro
Thanks
Thinking I am about to do these on my Fronty. I got the strange engineering lift on mine but need to do UCA's too. I've had it on for a while but it rides like shit and I am finally figuring out the UCA and bilsteins will probably do a good job of settling down the crappy handling.
Yeah man. The bilsteins and upper control arms are a good set up for sure. Ran my rig like that for years.
So you didn’t take out the spacer on top of the spring. And use the adjustable Bill Steen shocks. You have both space or lift and Bill Steen shocks. Did you use the tallest setting on the Bill Steen shocks.? For a total of 5 1/2 inches
No I kept the spacer vs adjusting the bilstein. The reason is when I went to use the spring compressor it put sooo much pressure on the spring to collapse it enough to do the lift seemed like the ride was going to be really harsh. With the spacer on top, compressed the spring to stock height and it seemed like it worked better as the spring was not nearly as compressed and the ride quality was much better. Hard to explain but you’ll see when you install it. It takes a ton of pressure to get that spring in the top notch.
Whats the part number for this Bilstein 5100?
Loving the bilsteins on my Titan.
Nice
Do you have the 4600 or 5100?
Sick rig! Was wondering if i can run the titan swap but just use bilstein 5100’s and a 3” spacer. This way i have the 3” and some room to play with the 5100’s.
Thanks. Don’t think you can with Fronty Bilsteins and 3” spacer. That’s not enough lift. Usually you need about min 4” lift for the Titan swap to work correctly as the mounting points on the lowers are pushed out 3” on each side.
What setting did you use on the Bilsteins, did you use the oem springs and how does it feel on the road?
Lowest setting, but I had 3” spacer. Worked really well.
Does this setup give you coil bucket contact? Which upper ctonrol arms and spacer brands?
Very little contact at all. These eBay upper arms. Total chaos clones *
Where did you get your wheel spacers do you have a link for them? Also did you need them to clear the upper control arm after your 3" lift or did you need the spacers just to clear the fender Wells with the 33's? Thanks!
Here are the wheel spacers I used. Just make sure you always get the Hubcentric. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F382477418134. I added mostly for cosmetic. Gives the truck a good stance, as OEM seemed to hug inside too much.
I brought mine on rough country.
Tom Z nice. Just make sure u use hub centric.
@@HardEnduro8 Nice. I will look into that. Glad I found your page.
So you didn't do the after market upper control arms because coil bucket contact right? Just more for looks, because i have read if you do a spacer kit that the UCA will hit the the coil bucket you never had a issues with that? I also was thinking about these shocks as well did you go get a alignment afterwards to?
Also did it help bring the front diff up as well? Other wise did it put the front axle higher up then the hub so the CVs are going downwards to the hub? Reason i ask is i did a calmini DB and my axle now sits lower then my hub so the CVs are pointing downwards from the hub to the axle instead of the other way, so if this picked up your front axle y 3/4 of a inch then im for sure going to do this.
Jeston Hickle No I got the AM upper control arms for the bucket issue and it’s a much stronger part then OEM. Plus it has upgraded ball joint and zerk fittings and u can align these were OEM u can’t. IMHO the AM control arms are a must for this vehicle. It was literally the first upgrade part I bought for my truck.
Jeston Hickle the control arms didn’t lift the front at all, they do allow for better articulation over stock. The spacer kit, 33” MT tires and bilstein have lifted my front end about 4”. My CV’s are pointed downward and not stressed. I also disconnected the sway bar. And man that sway bar was limiting suspension articulation in a major way. Sooo mad I didn’t do it sooner. Truck drives SOOO much better now. Both on and off road. My turning radius has also improved.
@@HardEnduro8 so the shocks did pick up the total ground clearance on the front axle?
Jeston Hickle yes. I thought hey would settle and 500 miles later still about 1” higher then before. I set the Bilstein at stock height and left my spacer in. The set up has worked very well so far. I even ordered a set for the rear.
Awesome video. What upper control you have there? Is it really nismo idk
Thanks. Total chaos eBay clones for the upper.
@@HardEnduro8 can't find them on Ebay , could you please share a link or seller name ? thank you so much
I have the 6in drop bracket kit on my frontier with the block up front. Can I run these shocks with the 6in block on top? To achieve 8in of lift ?
Don’t think you can. U have to run specific shocks for the drop bracket lift.
You can adjust lift height, so why did you not ditch the spacers?
Because when u compress the spring that much it makes the ride really harsh and limits the travel of the shock. When u use the spacer it relocates the shock lower but doesn’t limit the travel as much as compressed spring would.
can i use 5100's without lifting up on my d23? as stock height only?
Yes. There are settings for stock height only.
I like that you just make these videos for the ladies 😉
lol. Yah it’s just an old military saying.
@@HardEnduro8 LoL that's what my cousin used to always do, Marines and Coast Guard. Thank you for your sacrifice 🙏🏼
I have the 5100s in my 16 p4x and i measure 36 from the ground to the top of the wheelwell. How does it ride with the swaybar disconnected.?
I took it out on test run yesterday. Night and day difference. I was not expecting this much change. Ride is excellent, took it through some deep ruts and cross sections off road. Handled very well. More articulation with sway bar removed. Just thinking what took me so long to remove it.
Did you cut some of the lower bumper off for more clearance?
Yes sir.
HARD ENDURO I have an 06 pathfinder but it’s the single piece bumper with no chrome. Thinking about Maybe doing some trimming but it won’t be as clean an yours
Garbin’s Garage yeah man do it for. I really like how mine came out. I’ll have update video of my rig soon.
What level did you set the shock height to? Thanks for and info
I think second from the bottom
So you have the 3 inch lift atop the shock. Don't they make a 5100 thats 3 inches longer for the lift?
Yes. Bilstein makes an extended travel shock. That’s what I used.
@@HardEnduro8 is there a difference between the adjustable and 3inch ones? I assumed the three inch were preset and you could fork a little more for adjustment.
William Wilkin yes exactly. There is different part number for stock 5125 and long travel 5125. Can’t remember for sure , but if you go on there website they will show the 2 different part numbers.
Do you have spacers on top also? I’m looking at bilstein 5100 set at 2” with a 1/2” spacer.
I did. I had 3” spacer lift
Thanks dude. With getting it higher than 3” did you have to mess with brake lines or the drive train at all?
@@kolbietafoya1672 no. That’s about max you can go without spending mad money on long travel. But if you add 33”s mud tires you’ll get an extra 1.5” lift just from the tires. It will sit real nice with 33’s and 3” spacer lift. You be about 4.5 lift all together
I have a 2011 Xterra pro 4x with a 2” spacer and shackles on the rear. I just put 33” mud terrains on it too. Love it but looking at upgrading from the 4600’s to 5100 and this video was informative. Thanks bro
@@kolbietafoya1672 awesome man 👍🏼. I have since gone to full Titan Swap and I’m now on 35’s with 11” of wheel travel. Titan Swap is nice.
Hard Enduro, i understand you had a total of 5 inch lift on your front end now. If my truck is all stock with the 5100 on stock height can give me a 3/4 lift? Maybe?
I would say yes. The 5100 are a little stiffer than stock and you can order them with 1 inch lift set at stock settings.
@@HardEnduro8 i was thinking of putting the snap rings in the middle or third slot adjustment in order to gain 2'' of lift. i am not into 1 inch lift spacer. thanks for the reply.
Ray Riva that was my plan. However when i used the spring compressor it just didn’t seem right to put all that pressure on the spring and limit the travel. With the spacer it does not apply nearly as much pressure on the spring to get the same lift. You’ll see what I’m talking about once you remove and spring and see how much pressure it would take to hold it in second position. Good luck
@@HardEnduro8 thank you. think lift spacer will stressed cv's?
What tires are you running in this video?
In this video 33’s
What was it that you supported the jack stands on ?
Not sure what u mean
HARD ENDURO where are you supporting the truck from with the jack stands. Looks like in the front but not sure from where
Pedro Valle it’s the front most cross member.
Got it thank you for the fast reply !
Is your frontier the sv?
Yes
How did it drive without the stabilizer bar
Off road it’s a lot better. Much better articulation. On Frwy u just have to be mindful of slight understeer. Other than that no issues. Love it so far.
Thanks for the response, I’m looking for good replacement front shocks, preferably adjustables, I find the original shocks don’t hold the tire to the road when u hit bumps at 80km/h. Any suggestions?
Ride or Dive Kerry bilsteins all the way. Don’t believe the hype that u need radflo or expensive shocks for the truck to perform well.
I’m going to take your advice, I’ll try to find a set online.
Ride or Dive Kerry I ordered the “extended travel. Make sure u order the right ones. I think they are the 5125’s for the rear.
He alienated so many viewers, calling us ‘ladies’, he only got 0.002% thumbs up- out of almost 30,000 views. Genius, my friend.
It’s an old USMC term sorry it offends your thin skin. I don’t make vids for thumbs up, I only make vids to help others, that’s the sole purpose of the vid.
Both your water heaters wouldn't pass inspection 2 things are wrong, first of all the 2 T&P Relief Valve line are supported to drain down ward and they both have a loop which traps water, that creates salt, which impairs the value to open when needed, second both your gS Valves need a dripp line and cap on them, so condensation won't get in the value's.
Did you just call me a lady sonbitch? ;)
Yes I did.
Springs not spacers😊
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Partial video, you didn’t show us anything. Delete this video.
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