Hamilton Morris and Dr. Mark Plotkin - Exploring the History of Psychoactive Substances and More
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Show Notes: tim.blog/2022/07/01/mark-plot...
Welcome to The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to deconstruct world-class performers, to tease out their routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life.
This time around, we have a very special edition featuring two of your favorite guests: Dr. Mark Plotkin and Hamilton Morris.
Mark takes over my duties as host and interviews Hamilton for an episode of the Plants of the Gods podcast. You, my dear listeners, are hearing the audio before anyone else, so this is a Tim Ferriss Show exclusive. I’ve previously featured some of my favorite episodes from that show at tim.blog/plantsofthegods. These episodes cover a lot of fascinating ground.
Who is Mark? Mark (@DocMarkPlotkin) is an ethnobotanist who serves as president of the Amazon Conservation Team, which has partnered with ~80 tribes to map and improve management and protection of ~100 million acres of ancestral rainforests. He is best known to the general public as the author of the book Tales of a Shaman’s Apprentice, one of the most popular books ever written about the rainforest. His most recent book is The Amazon: What Everyone Needs to Know. You can find my interview with Mark at tim.blog/markplotkin.
And the guest today is Hamilton Morris. Hamilton (@HamiltonMorris) is a chemist, filmmaker, and science journalist. A graduate of The New School, he conducts chemistry research at Saint Joseph’s University. Hamilton is the writer and director of the documentary series Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia, in which he explores the chemistry and traditions surrounding psychoactive drugs. You can find my most recent interview with him at tim.blog/hamilton.
This is a tightly packed 60-minute interview. Mark and Hamilton cover the history of different psychoactive substances; Timothy Leary’s legacy; the “drunken monkey” hypothesis; conservation; microdosing; the differences between 5-MeO-DMT and DMT; a disease that afflicts people who smoke enormous quantities of cannabis, causing them to vomit continuously and only find relief from their nausea by taking a hot shower (yes, really); the impact of the placebo effect; a synthetic vs. a natural product; the role of ritual; and much, much more.
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Holy sheeyyyett - two guests in one go, and it's about Psychadelics? I'm in for a treat this weekend. Thanks, Tim! Would love to see more of these double guest episodes!
Fantastic interview!
Beggins 6:19
Thank you!
I always look forward to new interviews with Hamilton! Such a truly fascinating human being!!
I used to like Hamilton until he started purveying bullshit like the cannabis chronic vomitting story.
@@tdcaudio but that's real? I genuinely know a small handful of people that have CHS
@@OhAndron I don't know what's in the weed that they are ingesting, but the fact that this hasn't been a problem until now seems to indicate that there is something other than the cannabis itself causing the issue.
@@OhAndron and the fact that you yourself know a small handful when I've never heard of it in 35 years of getting high with avid smokers all over the world makes me REALLY wonder what is in that weed!
@One I believe what you are talking about is happening not from cannabis but from the bastardization of THC. When you isolate THC and remove all of the CBD and other synergistic compounds you don't have cannabis anymore. CHS doesn't happen from cannabis it happens from taking unnaturally isolated THC and using insanely effective ingestions techniques. Put the CBD back in weed and the problem is gone. I believe the science will show that man genetically modifying the cannabis is the sole reason CHS is happening now and NEVER happened during previous era's in cannabis history.
Tim Ferriss is a blessing to the psychedelic movement.
Microdosing WORKS 100% for Cluster Headache. It won't cure a broken arm, but a 5HT2A angonist does work for cluster headache suffers which I sadly am. I got in a car wreck, puked 100's of times over three years due to cluster headaches. I started using 3-5mg of DMT for acute instant relief which worked great but didn't prevent future events. I started taking 0.1g of mushrooms daily and haven't had an event in months.
'@dr_and_rabbi'
On -IG
"'Best psychedelic therapy page on the net. He is upright and he has good psychedelic products 🍄🍫 check him out. saying cus i have done some therapy meetings with him and he has the best step if you are microdosing."'
I found the same with shrooms for migraines.
Probably, but I get headaches and nosebleeds for Psilocybin. LSD and Amanita Pantherina with Trichocereus Panchanoi is the Holy Trinity.
Great interview. I'd never heard of Mark Plotkin...
Very Interesting!!! ✍🧐
awesome
This is interesting
I took ibogaine in Mexico for dementia after mold exposure and it worked. It restored my memory. The aftercare was far-lacking. An hour after smoking buffo one of the patients went over a cliff. We don’t know if he jumped or fell but it was very traumatic. It was a valuable experience but this was one of those places you speak of: kambo, iboga, ibogaine if you need it, then buffo. Be very careful and travel with a trusted friend.
@@wes555 I am doing much better! Thank you! Id be doing even better without all the additional trauma that followed but at least I know what’s out there and solutions to problems. Learning about how all of this works is very enlightening and you want to help other people.
Wait mold gave you dementia? I know a lot of people with dementia and that's my first time hearing of that being a thing that can happen. How do you know it was the mold?
@@pricklycats because I was trapped in the mold and it was killing me so many other ways. It's actually the toxic heavy metals IN the mold that cause it. It crosses the blood-brain barrier. It feeds viruses as well. All of us have viruses residing in our bodies and they are just waiting for something to consume so they can come out and start presenting symptoms. I learned all of this from Medical Medium after I went to many doctors and had no help. Get Medical Medium books and start following him and listening to his podcasts. You will learn how everything works and what to avoid. I am 1 million times better than i have been in my entire life from following this protocol
He's lying
@@BLUEGENE13 who's he?
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area, I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results.
All the problems that these compounds can help solve, and the potential for peace they have.
I had 3.5grams dried lemon tek most beautiful experience ever!
/malachi_tripp/
Got psych's
My first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea
Starts at 6:30
thank you
Wow saw him on Joe;dude has cool glasses.
A thumbs up just for the thumbnail
Hamilton has such a chad voice man....
The following comment still should not detract from the point being made that anything that is consumed ad nauseum can be harmful.
I knew someone who was diagnosed with Cannabis hyperemesis at Mayo Clinic... though he tried to tell the doctors he did not seem to get these symptoms from his homegrown organic stuff, but only when he used stuff from elsewhere, they would not listen. So I'm convinced there has to be more studies done on this disease.
The varieties of psychoactive Australian Acacias is vastly overlooked in the academic literature
21:09 classic cartoon moment
I m definitely depended on music😂
💗
he mixed Ritalin and ayahuasca together, he doesn't mind about the mixing @ 40:26
Ace
7:00 starts.
Micro dose YES, worx!
Figure out a ritual b4 you micro dose and stick with it
As a teenager I was told that LSD deteriorates into a strychnine like substance when stored improperly hence all the urban myths about LSD containing strychnine as well as old acid giving rise to muscle cramps and other unpleasant side effects similar to strychnine poisoning. Anybody know if there is any truth to this. I have definitely experienced this some blotter that was just laying around neglected, folded up and stuffed into the backside of a large framed painting. I think it even had a coffee stain and some scuff marks on it lol. Fantastic acid with the unpleasant effect of feeling like i was being stung by bees in my calf muscles if I stayed immobile for a length of time then got up to walk about. It was almost crippling. Also noticed muscle cramping on the back of my skull from excessive smiling lol.
LSD containing strychnine wasn't a myth. It wasn't due to any actual process with the chemical but the trend of unscrupulous dealers cutting the batches to increase their profits. Also keep in mind that MK Ultra was still a very active program in the west and may have had something to do with all of the propaganda & or the "Bad Acid" trips for the rising "War" on drugs.
There is NO truth to the rumor that LSD degrades into strychnine. When it degrades, it simply loses potency. If it DID turn into strychnine, the volume of the drug is SO tiny it would be imperceptible.
There are certainly anecdotal reports of strychnine being SOLD as acid. It's a ghetto trick I saw at rock concerts back in the early 70s.
A friend of mine declined a would-be purchase at the first site of some sketchy "brown-looking cubes", then, later on, saw a whole crate of said cubes being sold as rat poison at the hardware store.
Beyond the numerous adulterated product that has been sold as LSD, nowadays there is a plethora of research chemicals also being sold as "good ol' acid".
I have also witnessed absolutely pure acid (which had been sent to a lab for purity test) producing experiences having a RANGE of negative effects.
There is a huge variety of different subjective experiences this "king of psychedelics" produces. It can vary greatly from person to person and from trip to trip.
NOTHING surprises me.
Hey Dr Plotnik,
In regards to your discussion about "the therapeutic effects" I must say, you have a lack of understanding. The therapeutic effects often experienced is not that the experience your body/mind has while on the substance is blissfully joyful or some other specifically positive experience. The therapy is often that the feeling of being under water, in the dark, for 9 hours, is a very intense experience which brings the individual to a place of reconciliation with that level of intensity in their life. Meaning to say, most often the therapeutic effects of psychedelic substance is either in the experience, or, the way the individual relates to the experience. The mistake most often made is two-found. First mistake, the substance ITSELF will not provide the cure. The key word here is relationship. Second mistake, an experience which seems dark and unpleasant is not to be seen as non therapeutic. In fact, the opposite approach is perhaps way more useful.
Thanks for the talk guys.
'@dr_and_rabbi'
On -IG
Best psychedelic therapy page on the net. He is upright and he has good psychedelic products 🍄🍫 check him out. saying cus i have done some therapy meetings with him and he has the best step if you are microdosing.
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Hamilton is wrong about there only being one source of marine psychedelics. There are several species of "dream fish" with an associated algae, and there's also a sea snail.
You should watch his pharmacopeia episode about the dream fish! Really interesting how little info is available
Nobody wears a white shirt like Morris xD
Listening to Tim"s disingenuous voice is joy to my sociopathic heart. He can shill anything at the same exact tone while speaking to people who have worked and suffered 10x. Tight.
Walk out in the wild. Remember all mushrooms are edible. Some are just edible once.
I smoked 5-meo ... Morris really is that hard headed despite knowing the people who brought it forward, lol.
He should actually read the book on it.
If you know how to work with it... fi you don't do certain practices it won't get you anywhere. Morris doesn't grok tripping..
I think the cannabis issue because it is tainted with sketchy off label pesticides
Imagine being SO GOT DAMM HI that you forget to Google that your having a 6 month long overdose on the bagzqd 🎒 🍃 > 🍂
Is all fun until you never come back had a couple friends good guys until a bad trip never the same like giving a ptsd vet micro dose and blaming him or her when he hurts you I'd say the Dr got what he or she deserves
6:30 of self promotion to begin with... seriously?
Hamilton Morris is an icon, and thanks for the early access, but doood!
I hope you're serious about the subject matter & not merely capitalizing. But honestly, you've coloured my initial perceptions.
That was ridiculous
@@bbuggediffy defo
Just not into your psychedelic side, Tim. 😕 Looking forward to your next interview, however.
Hamilton is really fucking intelligent.