Man Refuses to Give Bitcoin Password to Police - Ep. 7.287

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  • @everettnowack182
    @everettnowack182 Před 3 lety +1457

    If you find drugs in your yard, it's yours. If you find gold in your yard, it's theirs.

  • @GilmerJohn
    @GilmerJohn Před 3 lety +1087

    Judges can be a bit on the "selective" side when they don't believe someone could forget a password but shrug off a federal agent deceiving them on a FISA warrant application.

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague Před 3 lety +10

      @Baby Fishmouth Ted? Ted who? And the "them"...is Ted dealing with judges, people "forgetting" passwords, or...is it federal agents lying? I like to get a warm and fuzzy feeling.....oh, I can do that on my own. Time for my bong.

    • @robinkuruda5249
      @robinkuruda5249 Před 3 lety

      Ya.... Ya.... Ya...!!

    • @loremasterlizard2839
      @loremasterlizard2839 Před 3 lety +15

      GIVE THEM NOTHING!

    • @davidmuth4571
      @davidmuth4571 Před 3 lety +2

      @@loremasterlizard2839 He could try to negotiate for a percentage.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 3 lety +8

      John Gilmer: gee, who'da thought POWER could CORRUPT?

  • @archygrey9093
    @archygrey9093 Před 3 lety +586

    What if his password was actually "I Forgot" and he was telling it to the judge the whole time

    • @treeseneese8655
      @treeseneese8655 Před 3 lety +23

      Good one😂

    • @Elliandr
      @Elliandr Před 3 lety +41

      If his wallet used 2FA he could have gotten away with such a weak password since it wouldn't work without the security key. Then, years later, he uses a deterministic seed to recover the wallet on a new computer and after moving the money explain that he did comply with giving them the password, but since they didn't actually take the coin within X years limitations apply and they give up being allowed to take it. Then he keeps it.

    • @williamgolden839
      @williamgolden839 Před 3 lety +11

      Great password

    • @jacquesb5248
      @jacquesb5248 Před 3 lety +10

      that would be hilarious!

    • @joeschidt5037
      @joeschidt5037 Před 3 lety +26

      Excellent idea. Password=letmethink2,4,6,8FudkyoupigsIain'ttellingyou

  • @RedEyedModok
    @RedEyedModok Před 3 lety +28

    I was behind this guy at the airport in the security line where they open and inspect your carry on. They were just finishing up with him and were about to turn to me. When the inspector who had just checked his bag shouted for the man to halt and come back to the inspection area.
    He asked "why?"
    Homeland Security answered " because I think I saw bitcoins in your bag and I want to Re-Inspect it."
    I *GUFFAWED* outloud. And told him he was an idiot.

    • @atomicknight63
      @atomicknight63 Před 2 lety +2

      Are you saying this actually happened?

    • @douglasbrittain7018
      @douglasbrittain7018 Před rokem +3

      Back in its early years they actually had physical Bitcoins. The encryption key was inside the physical coin. My friend back in like 2014 showed me where he had picked one up a few years ago and its value was actually 1 bitcoin. I think he paid like $350 for it. I believe he ended up selling it in 2017 and made a hefty profit on it.

    • @Reggie2000
      @Reggie2000 Před 25 dny

      ​@douglasbrittain7018 Amazingly enough, this could be plausible. I just looked on ebay. There are in fact graded and ungraded physical bitcoins selling for thousands each. 😮
      Joke coins gone wild! 😂

  • @UrMomGoes2College
    @UrMomGoes2College Před 3 lety +1213

    Don't steal, the government hates competition!
    -Ron Paul

    • @ashtonw9931
      @ashtonw9931 Před 3 lety +17

      To be fair, this guy is a piece of crap and a thief as well. He installed mining software on others people computers. If he has 60 million, that is a lot of computers that others paid for those resources and wear and tear on machines running at higher temps for long periods of times. Worse bitcoin mining requires a lot of energy. That being said the government seized the money as punishment for illegal activity, but that does not help any of those who were hurt.

    • @AnexoRialto
      @AnexoRialto Před 3 lety +24

      Ah yes, Ron Paul. Lived on the tax payer's dime while claiming to be a libertarian. Like father like son.

    • @nospam3001
      @nospam3001 Před 3 lety +44

      @@AnexoRialto Ron Paul was an obstetrician before running for office. He wasn't in Congress for a paycheck.

    • @ffedurch
      @ffedurch Před 3 lety +5

      @@ashtonw9931 You have to assume he a) started out mining Bitcoin on his own computer(s)/server(s) and b) continued to do so while hacking other computers to do it as well. That means there's a portion of the content in the wallet that he acquired legally. You have to remember that when people started mining Bitcoin in earnest it was barely worth a buck or two. It's only when the value rocketed that people started to pay attention. The government wants all of it. Not sure about the laws in Germany, but realistically they should only be able to seize the proceeds from the criminal part of his operation. How much Bitcoin did he acquire legally before the value skyrocketed? There's also the question of compensation for the victims. What's fair for the people he used (abused)? The only real damage suffered is wear + tear on equipment and their feelings from being victims of getting hacked (the hacking part he's served prison time for already). Replace the computers and punitive damages + forfeiture of the ill gained portion? If I was in that position where they wanted to seize everything I wouldn't give them the password, either.

    • @ashtonw9931
      @ashtonw9931 Před 3 lety +13

      @@ffedurchyour point b is more important than a. My opinion it should all be divided up among the people he stole from. Which I agree with you is not the government. But the same crap happens here too. Someone commits a crime/fraud against other citizens. The government levies huge fines, seizes all assets and keeps everything and those who were the victims are left to try to try to sue in civil court against the perp who at that point has nothing left.

  • @Xanthate1845
    @Xanthate1845 Před 3 lety +925

    I always like government logic around these crimes: "If he illegally extracted value from others, the government is entitled to that stolen money" Lol.

    • @georgesawyer6023
      @georgesawyer6023 Před 3 lety +90

      "you're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen" - Vizzini

    • @Linescrew1Canada
      @Linescrew1Canada Před 3 lety +124

      Don't steal kids: the government HATES competition.

    • @liaminwales
      @liaminwales Před 3 lety +33

      well it's not like they are willing to give it to the effected public, that's silly talk.
      now if it was stolen from a bank that's different! cant let a bank suffer.
      public = state money
      bank = good boys who work hard and need there assets back

    • @FlexDRG
      @FlexDRG Před 3 lety +48

      @@aaronlandry3947 it is one thing that it goes to the federal coffers. Big problem in the US is that it stays with the PD or town. And they can spend it however they like. Now that is incentive! And why so many cops fabricate lies and write you up.

    • @Xanthate1845
      @Xanthate1845 Před 3 lety +26

      @@FlexDRG No kidding, imagine a teacher that gets a larger Christmas bonus the more students they fail... such backwards logic

  • @xpusostomos
    @xpusostomos Před 3 lety +452

    I'm guessing this German guy has a backup copy of his wallet and is now golden.

    • @craig7715
      @craig7715 Před 3 lety +57

      He definately has. The hardware wallet can be replaced in an instant as soon as he / if he gets out

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Před 3 lety +21

      @Audrey P hmmmm... If they know, how do they know... And is it actually illegal if he were to transfer it and could you convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt he did it.

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Před 3 lety +12

      @@cannaroe1213 interesting, but I kinda think convincing a judge that because a few bits flipped the other way in a remote data cache that someone should go to prison, might be a big ask. There might be in a logic to it, but there's a ton of room for obfuscation.

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Před 3 lety +21

      @Audrey P somebody could find his private key and take the money. They can't blame him for that.

    • @Liminal.Headspace
      @Liminal.Headspace Před 3 lety +43

      @Audrey P 50 million Euros will make you invisible fast. Especially when concerning bitcoin, with which it's so easy to create noise in the transaction chain. Also, I have doubts on the intelligence of the authorities who can actually say straight faced that they seized his bitcoin account by confiscating a copy of his digital wallet.

  • @bidenhasdementia8657
    @bidenhasdementia8657 Před 2 lety +28

    7:30 wow. I'm more convinced than ever contempt of court is completely corrupt and unconstitutional

    • @dsmith3391
      @dsmith3391 Před 2 lety +2

      I see a lot of people sick of our broken corrupt government why don't we all get together and do something about it

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@dsmith3391 Because not even this comment section can agree on what the "something about it" should be. We may all agree things the way they currently are is bad but I doubt we'll agree on a solution

  • @onlyhurtsonce9222
    @onlyhurtsonce9222 Před 3 lety +482

    Sounds like the tax man wasn't happy he didn't get his 95% of the loot

  • @richt71
    @richt71 Před 3 lety +223

    There was a case in the UK fairly recently where a guy was tried for bank robbery and found guilty. Got 7 years inside but his criminal assets were ordered to be seized but according to the prosecution their was £10 m not recovered. The judge ordered him to reveal the whereabouts of this money or face an extra 5 years in jail. The guy is now serving the extra time as many believe he's decided 5 years inside is worth it to keep his hidden £10m!

    • @Ralnon
      @Ralnon Před 3 lety +18

      Thing is, the court can - and likely will - keep bouncing him back to jail for contempt of court.

    • @VintageTechRepairs
      @VintageTechRepairs Před 3 lety +5

      @@Ralnon lol. No they wont

    • @btchhopperou812
      @btchhopperou812 Před 3 lety

      Smart laddie!

    • @davexb6595
      @davexb6595 Před 3 lety +25

      ​@@Ralnon Pretty certain that in the UK and any western democracy you can't be imprisoned again for the same crime. In England, Wales and probably every country based on the British legal system, a person cannot be tried twice for the same crime. Let alone sentenced to prison. That has been part of English law for 800 years and is built into most British Commonwealth countries.
      Even beyond that, the 72 signatories and 166 parties to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights recognise, under Article 14 (7): "No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again for an offence for which he has already been finally convicted or acquitted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of each country."

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague Před 3 lety +8

      Ten megabucks makes it worth the time inside, if you can get away with it. Me, I'd have a hard time deciding...I wouldn't be able to handle being locked up for a few weeks, let alone several years, but getting out of poverty might make it bearable.

  • @HalkerVeil
    @HalkerVeil Před 3 lety +17

    Contempt of court for not testifying is one of the things I seriously disagree with in the system.
    Had family get hurt pretty bad by one guy, she was forced to testify but couldn't due to mental trauma from it.
    Their idea of what would be healthy for her is to put her in a cage.

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I mean it fits the Tommy and German guy situation the Judge in your family case just abused it.

  • @bozzie3851
    @bozzie3851 Před 3 lety +111

    My friend got kicked out of school in 2013 for using all the school computer to mine bitcoin. Funny thing is he’s the richest person I know and won’t have to work a day in his life because of it

    • @douglasrowland3722
      @douglasrowland3722 Před 3 lety +16

      They didn't want young students to become aware that they can be successful in beating the system...or benefitting from...or taking advantage OF the system.
      And Bitcoin is a new system...They want us to work (FOR them...) to make and keep them rich....while WE struggle and accept our little subsistence and shut up !!!!!!!!!

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 3 lety +5

      @@douglasrowland3722 Yes because the odds of beating the system are lower than beating the odds in Vegas.

    • @MikeSmith-fs9wh
      @MikeSmith-fs9wh Před 3 lety

      Wow! What grade did he get kicked out in ? college?

    • @mattf49006
      @mattf49006 Před 2 lety +5

      doubtful...
      1) a high school main frame wouldn't have the power...but...
      2) the power draw and time required would leave the schools system unable to do it's day to day tasks so even if the kid managed to hack in it'd be discovered quickly the next day...so no..he didn't get rich because of it
      3) even if this tale was true he's a minor...his parents would be on the hook and to avoid jail time any bitcoin would be forfeited

    • @jimmieroan9881
      @jimmieroan9881 Před 2 lety

      @@Agent-ew6jw just to show how wrong you are, go to a school computer and type in a search for kid porn and see if they can figure out who when and etc, when i was at a lighthouse for the blind as a student our instructor was a young woman that worked at one time with the government pulling info from computers, she told us that not only can info be pulled from your hard drive there is a path where it never goes away that can be trapped.

  • @michaelmcfeely6588
    @michaelmcfeely6588 Před 3 lety +34

    Given the honesty of government, I see no reason to comply with law.

    • @robertchase6387
      @robertchase6387 Před 2 lety +1

      Amen!

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 Před rokem

      When Uncle Thomas and Gym Jordan do, I shall, as well.

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 Před 11 měsíci

      Well thats fine but in this instance they'll just stack charges and keep you locked up indefinitely until you cooperate

  • @swinde
    @swinde Před 3 lety +238

    About sunken treasure, it annoys me when a treasure hunter mounts an expedition to recover a treasure that has been under water for as much 400 years and succeeds, the nation under which the ship was flagged pops up and demands the the treasure be returned to them, even though they had no hand in recovering the assets. Many times the nation will be under a different government as well.

    • @jtandme-ot9cl
      @jtandme-ot9cl Před 3 lety +59

      That one's always pissed me off, too.
      As usual government thinks it owns something through the sweat and effort of someone else. It was down there 400 years. You had plenty of time to get off your worthless dead asses and get it yourself!

    • @anonamous365
      @anonamous365 Před 3 lety +34

      especially when it was stolen from another country...thier all criminals

    • @troystutsman1400
      @troystutsman1400 Před 3 lety +28

      It’s no different than our government taking taxes out of any winnings you receive...!!!
      Or, taxing any gains from the sale of your home...!!!
      They did absolutely nothing to earn any of that money yet they can claim more that half
      of the value for taxes...!
      What a crock of BS ...!
      You are the one taking all of the risks...!
      It’s your money being invested not theirs...!
      What entitles them to any of it...?

    • @julieludwig8927
      @julieludwig8927 Před 3 lety +17

      Lloyd's of London typically insured those long lost treasures and paid out the claim to the country or owner of said vessel. Once they've paid the claim, they can't then request said treasure. Most of the divers who go out on the treasure hunt do so for free with the hopes that it will eventually be found and they get a "cut" of the recovered treasure.
      Signed, Ex-wife of a Commercial Deep Sea Diver who has been on Treasure Hunts.

    • @sd906238
      @sd906238 Před 3 lety +23

      Nobody says a thing until the guy recovers the gold. Then the lawyers and insurance companies come out of the woodwork like cockroaches. Yet for the past 400 years everybody is free to search, find and recover the gold themselves yet not a single one of them has not even lifted a finger to do so themselves.

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 Před 3 lety +2

    Politicians use the phrase . "I have no recollection of that". and it gets the most corrupt politicians off without even a slap on the hand..

  • @grahamoldfield3474
    @grahamoldfield3474 Před 3 lety +12

    We had a case in Australia where an illegal bookmaker refused to disclose information in a court case the Judge held him in contempt , he was in jail for over &
    7 YEARS for contempt and was only released because of his ill health .

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes this. If they want something badly enough and believe you are intentionally withholding it they can just keep you locked up indefinitely by stacking contempt charges. The minute this German guy or Tommy were to be released for serving his sentence and he still refused to give the password(reveal gold location) they'd just immediately arrest him again and throw him back in the cell

  • @yoitired
    @yoitired Před 3 lety +550

    Cops: You stole that money so you can't have it. Can we have it then?
    Man: No
    Cops: Please?

    • @johnconstantine1604
      @johnconstantine1604 Před 3 lety +17

      Sounds like his crime was running mining software on other peoples' computers without their knowledge. So he did not steal Bitcoin from them. The only thing those people lost was from a small increase in their electric bills.

    • @mrbangkockney
      @mrbangkockney Před 3 lety +9

      @@johnconstantine1604 additional wear on the components, lack of available resources to use on the system themselves.

    • @johnconstantine1604
      @johnconstantine1604 Před 3 lety +6

      @@billweasley1382 Very true. It makes me more curious over the details of the case... This guy must have been tasking their computers for several weeks or more, and the computer owners didn't seem to notice for a very long time. It's an interesting aspect of it.

    • @elanahammer1076
      @elanahammer1076 Před 3 lety +1

      Ohhh I think 🤔 you are on to something! Lol

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Před 3 lety +5

      @@billweasley1382 Nah, electricity costs haven’t quintupled in 3 years.

  • @veralenora7368
    @veralenora7368 Před 3 lety +107

    After my grandfather died in the early '6o', Grandmother for "some reason" took out the title to the farm to look at. She found $20 in between each page.
    She started looking around, and finally found several thousand dollars total, all in $20 bills.
    Grandfather had been "squirreling' it away. They had both grown up in the Great Depression.
    Michigan / US

    • @alecbaldwinsnotpropgun
      @alecbaldwinsnotpropgun Před 3 lety +11

      Buy books at estate sales

    • @MartintheTinman
      @MartintheTinman Před 3 lety +10

      @@alecbaldwinsnotpropgun . Then don't tell anyone about anything.
      A guy in Hamilton Victoria bought something and found fifteen thousand dollars in it.
      Told his friend and went halves in iit.
      Then the friend felt guilty and handed it into the Police.
      The guy that found it was then charged with theft and found guilty in Court.

    • @dwdelve
      @dwdelve Před 3 lety +10

      Sorry to hear, inflation would have destroyed the purchasing power. They should have bought gold

    • @Foolish188
      @Foolish188 Před 3 lety +9

      I always check Bibles on the free table at the dump, found over a hundred so far and a couple of silver certificates that I haven't priced.

    • @alecbaldwinsnotpropgun
      @alecbaldwinsnotpropgun Před 3 lety

      @@Foolish188 nice!!!!

  • @gearhead682010
    @gearhead682010 Před 3 lety +97

    This man has absolutely no obligation whatsoever to help the police with their investigation or to help them steal his money and extort him

    • @cantstandya3761
      @cantstandya3761 Před 2 lety +10

      "steal his money".... oh, you mean the money he stole from others? I get it...

    • @MikeLinPA
      @MikeLinPA Před 2 lety +12

      They want to steal his stolen money. He stole it fair and square!

    • @RichardClaessens
      @RichardClaessens Před 2 lety +9

      Right he stole that money fair and square and since they prosecuted him and put him in prison he can honestly say that he's paid his debt...
      I don't hope he gets away with it but I don't think the cops should get the money either

    • @SP-tu7od
      @SP-tu7od Před 2 lety

      60% of all money made is stolen from someone, legally or illegally. rob peter to pay paul is the name of the game. Taxes are theft as well.

    • @MikeLinPA
      @MikeLinPA Před 2 lety +1

      @@SP-tu7od So... when your house catches fire, are you going to start taking bids on private fire fighting services since the taxpayer funded fire dept doesn't exist anymore because all taxes are theft?

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 Před 2 lety +10

    Never give the cops your password! 😎

  • @bigfunwmu
    @bigfunwmu Před 3 lety +293

    So the authorities have the bitcoin digital wallet, so they have seized it and he no longer has it. They additionally want the password so they can spend it, sounds like 2 seperate issues.

    • @liaminwales
      @liaminwales Před 3 lety +22

      he may have a backup? no idea how bitcoin works.

    • @genedesalvo1120
      @genedesalvo1120 Před 3 lety +5

      Or they can settle ahead of time for percentiles. Have a third party lawyer open it and disburse it. The computer owners get percentiles.

    • @TheCompyshop
      @TheCompyshop Před 3 lety +22

      @@liaminwales So it depends. If he had it stored on an exchange, he could login from anywhere and move the coins to a local wallet. If his bitcoin was already on a local wallet, he needs physical access to the wallet to get his bitcoin

    • @fixandtests
      @fixandtests Před 3 lety +13

      As far as I read about it, they have his offline wallet, but not the password. So none of them can enjoy the value...

    • @fixandtests
      @fixandtests Před 3 lety +12

      @@liaminwales if the wallet is off-loaded to a local offline wallet, like a special encrypted usb key wallet. Then the password is the only way..

  • @jamesmcdonald3054
    @jamesmcdonald3054 Před 3 lety +373

    I've guessed his password: "Nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein!"

    • @Colorado_Native
      @Colorado_Native Před 3 lety +25

      No, no, no, no, no. It is mein, mein, mein, mein, mein mein, mein, mein, mein.

    • @kb-wu7ws
      @kb-wu7ws Před 3 lety +1

      Those are both only 9 word phrases. Bip 39 mnemonic encryption is 12, 18, or 24 words

    • @robjones1328
      @robjones1328 Před 3 lety

      @Puma-Frank -Puma and his username is password

    • @voice2skull.
      @voice2skull. Před 3 lety +1

      @Puma-Frank -Puma ughhhh....would you believe these folks exist?! The Idiots using "password" for their passwords.🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @robfinch3277
      @robfinch3277 Před 3 lety +2

      Its probably stuck on the bottom of his keyboard....they`ll never find it!

  • @nathangoins2298
    @nathangoins2298 Před 3 lety +20

    It’s funny that you bring up Tommy Thompson. I see him almost every day at work and he cracks me up! I came here for the Bitcoin story and ended up hearing about Tommy. Thanks!

  • @mitchfitz4259
    @mitchfitz4259 Před 2 lety +3

    Some judges deserve contempt.

  • @ThePooper3000
    @ThePooper3000 Před 3 lety +131

    It could be that he simply doesn't want the police to have it, and he won't bother trying to take it back for himself.. "If I can't have it, no one can!"

    • @sethbarnes7608
      @sethbarnes7608 Před 3 lety +6

      As long as he doesn't give em the password, he might still be able to get access to it using his 12 word "recovery phrase"

    • @ThePooper3000
      @ThePooper3000 Před 3 lety +4

      @@sethbarnes7608 But then he would immediately be jailed again for contempt. And then they probably wouldn't let him out until he coughs up the money.
      Either way, he's probably getting some satisfaction at the cops bashing their head against the wall because they can't get the money.

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen Před 3 lety +3

      If he gives up the password, there will be zero chance to get the money back later at some point. And of course, giving it away doesn't give him anything so why do it. This way he might also get some secondary benefits like interviews or book deals later.

    • @james_gemma
      @james_gemma Před 3 lety

      I believe you're right. I know of a way that he could recover at least half of his btc, which i wont mention the method for obvious reason. I think its only a matter of time before he figures it out. But in using this method the question is will he be held accountable by leo when the wallet is accessed even though they could not prove he was the one who did so?

    • @britts9215
      @britts9215 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TimoRutanen I might guess that he did not put it all in one wallet. If they cant open it, they do not know what is actually in that wallet.

  • @infinitybeyond6357
    @infinitybeyond6357 Před 3 lety +125

    civil asset forfeiture 2.0, or
    digital asset forfeiture XD
    up next, police will come after your in-game balance.

    • @nejch1568
      @nejch1568 Před 3 lety +4

      Damn bustas tryin' steal muh robux.

    • @dougfoust117
      @dougfoust117 Před 3 lety +5

      There will come a day when someone has to come off of EVE assets in a courtroom. Laptops open, stations transferred in front of the world's most bewildered judge.

    • @OnlyKaerius
      @OnlyKaerius Před 3 lety +4

      the IRS has already come from that for some people, something about in-game sales in Fortnite IIRC.

    • @Ryarios
      @Ryarios Před 3 lety +2

      Don’t give the IRS any ideas...

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen Před 3 lety

      That's actually criminal asset forfeiture. He's been convicted and even served his time. Part of the sentence was that he loses the bitcoin.

  • @brentmillsop6355
    @brentmillsop6355 Před 3 lety +2

    Without PROOF, contempt of court is a joke.

  • @cattythecat9161
    @cattythecat9161 Před 3 lety +12

    Fun Fact: Someone emptied his wallet some days ago. Now they got nothing but that empty wallet

  • @dkozisek
    @dkozisek Před 3 lety +133

    If a person is testifying only because the judge threatened them with jail time if they didn't then their testimony should be considered suspect and that information should be revealed to the jury.

    • @germanespichan114
      @germanespichan114 Před 3 lety +2

      That is call a treat ,and is penalized, on criminal court.

    • @geoh7777
      @geoh7777 Před 3 lety +8

      @@germanespichan114 With a judge, it is more of a promise than a threat.
      It could be considered duress maybe.

    • @virt1one
      @virt1one Před 3 lety +5

      @@geoh7777 a threat is simply a promise of retaliation. All threats are promises. Not all promises are threats. The problem though can be that one man's promise is another man's threat. If a cop says I will arrest you if you punch me, the officer may only intend it to be a promise, but the person may view it as a threat because he doesn't like the outcome.

    • @scotthartman8993
      @scotthartman8993 Před 2 lety +1

      you cant use US legal arguments for Germany

    • @TheCountExtreme
      @TheCountExtreme Před 2 lety

      The judge only tells them that they must testify. They can't tell them what to say once they are on the stand. In fact, some testimony might be more credible if the witness believes e.g. that testifying will put themselves in danger.

  • @clintonsavage4018
    @clintonsavage4018 Před 3 lety +108

    If I owe the someone $1k, that's my problem. If I owe them a few million, that's their problem.

    • @anthonymacgregor9790
      @anthonymacgregor9790 Před 3 lety

      problem is he used their computer and its recourses without the owners permission so it became his problem for doing that

    • @danielgriff2659
      @danielgriff2659 Před 3 lety

      yep, cant squeeze blood from a turnip...get in line, debtors!

    • @herbderbler1585
      @herbderbler1585 Před 3 lety

      If he owes anyone anything, it's the cost of the electricity spent mining that coin. That's a fair cost to pay back, but it's on them to figure out how much that is. If they can't do that, that's their problem.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 3 lety

      Because a few million can buy a hell of a lot of legal representation.

    • @douglasrowland3722
      @douglasrowland3722 Před 3 lety

      @@SovereignStatesman It can also do a lot of ''good''....!

  • @bobchristopoulos5755
    @bobchristopoulos5755 Před 3 lety +10

    From the High Desert and the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be, across all these many time zones from the Tahitian and Hawaiian island chains in the west, eastward to the Caribbean, south into South America and north to the pole, this is Coast to Coast AM. Good morning. RIP Art. We all loved you.

  • @QuantumDivinity
    @QuantumDivinity Před 3 lety +4

    Those private keys going to work great on a $50 ledger when he gets out lol

  • @lightweight1974
    @lightweight1974 Před 3 lety +218

    Judges have way too much power. Effectively imprison a man for life for being uncooperative. That's pure BS. I have nothing but contempt for this sort of thing and these judges.

    • @Timmothy2012
      @Timmothy2012 Před 3 lety

      🤷‍♂️ that's how it goes in some of these places that don't have the same rights as we do here in the states.

    • @Timmothy2012
      @Timmothy2012 Před 3 lety +1

      @@M167A1 yes and he was LEGALLY held in contempt, and lucky he was not charged with aggravated perjury.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Před 3 lety +6

      @@edsloan8535 They didn’t start out the mining themselves. He just used their resources.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Před 3 lety +8

      @ThePatUltra Um, what? No, I’m saying they didn’t mine, therefore he didn’t steal bitcoin. It was pretty clear.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Před 3 lety +6

      @ThePatUltra Double down? I already explained myself. Good lord, you sovereign citizens are quite the bunch. lol

  • @mikepalmer2219
    @mikepalmer2219 Před 3 lety +376

    glad to see they will keep a guy in jail for an indefinite time for forgetting something but child rapists' can get out and walk among our children. You really have to question the justice system.

    • @marktruth1006
      @marktruth1006 Před 3 lety +2

      Let's hope trumps sewage system keeps on working, uk

    • @seanmiller449
      @seanmiller449 Před 3 lety +1

      great point

    • @fabio-965
      @fabio-965 Před 3 lety +1

      Efforts/gains ratio

    • @TheLiamis
      @TheLiamis Před 3 lety +5

      No justice system m8, just money systems. Kiddy fiddler will probably be reoffending so more money through court cases. This guy has €60million the courts want. It's all about money.

    • @9.87woke2
      @9.87woke2 Před 3 lety +2

      @@marktruth1006 that's dumb

  • @jnamemoption7742
    @jnamemoption7742 Před 2 lety +4

    "When one door closes, another opens." Pandora's box staving off despair yet for another day

  • @davea4944
    @davea4944 Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely love your videos Steve ! know are a true good person. On behalf of all those who think all lawyers just want money, you're a man of much integrity ! God bless all you love, and thanks so much for sharing your wisdom for those who cant afford, or are scared to even call a lawyer. You ROCK bro ! 4ever grateful !

  • @GPSJayDog22
    @GPSJayDog22 Před 3 lety +67

    I forgot,,,,,,
    Sounds like everybody questioned in our congressional hearing 🙄

    • @33flutterbykisses
      @33flutterbykisses Před 3 lety

      Priceless!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @leebrewer7394
      @leebrewer7394 Před 3 lety

      Yep, all are pos.

    • @rickdavis7141
      @rickdavis7141 Před 3 lety +2

      kind of like the nominated ATF head thats going to ban assult weapons but doesn't know the meaning of assult weapons

  • @sidharthchand8072
    @sidharthchand8072 Před 3 lety +82

    I guarantee he hasn’t forgotten the password if he’s installing malicious software On other peoples computer he’s pretty tech savvy

    • @snoopdogie187
      @snoopdogie187 Před 3 lety +13

      I bet he has some sort of backup somewhere, and he can access it any time he wants.

    • @stinkwink695
      @stinkwink695 Před 3 lety +6

      @@aaronlandry3947 He absolutely has an encrypted random password generator/safe somewhere.

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 Před 3 lety +15

      Or maybe the password is, idontremeber

    • @geoh7777
      @geoh7777 Před 3 lety +2

      If he's text savvy, then he must be a really good editor.

    • @b.s.864
      @b.s.864 Před 3 lety +2

      @@aaronlandry3947 I wonder if anyone has tried the password Data used to encrypt command functions in Star Trek. Incredibly long, easy to retrieve.

  • @Aranneas
    @Aranneas Před 2 lety +4

    When we talk about infinite contempt of court I can't help but remember the situation of Chelsea Manning

  • @johnhill3706
    @johnhill3706 Před 2 lety +3

    Love your stories you have a great sense of humor. This one even made me laugh

  • @jackkelledes4082
    @jackkelledes4082 Před 3 lety +9

    Defendant's actions affecting judges is a real thing. I was unlucky enough to be in court one day for a traffic infraction and the guy in the case just before me clucked like a chicken the whole time. Out loud. Wouldn't even say his name when asked, his public defender said it for him. That put the judge in a really bad mood for the rest of the day. I got no leniency at all as a first time offender and the bailiffs told me later that he treated everyone else after me the same way all day.

  • @weldabar
    @weldabar Před 3 lety +14

    How can you prove that someone remembers something? I've forgotten plenty of passwords.
    This also applies to search warrants: they can come into your home but cannot compel you to tell them where something is. Yet they think they can make you tell them a password so that they can search your computer.
    I can see both sides, but strongly believe that you can't force someone to tell you something, especially when you can't prove they know it.

  • @doittoday1
    @doittoday1 Před 2 lety +2

    Many stories like this , thanks for your views on these. Very informative.

  • @gollenda7852
    @gollenda7852 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I always find it interesting that a Judge can compel speech. To remain silent is a Constitutionally Protected Right.

  • @TheDecguy
    @TheDecguy Před 3 lety +18

    The Tommy Thompson saga is a fascinating story from the first idea to search for the ship and its contents to the bizarre nature that it has grown into. It falls into the category of “you can’t make this stuff up”

  • @olympiclinic
    @olympiclinic Před 3 lety +26

    The gold is in a big black chest with brass hinges on it. It is buried deep under a large grey rock with an "X" on it. You'll find the spot 17 passes north of the three palms trees on the windward side of the largest of a pair of desert islands just three days voyage due west of Bora Bora in the South Pacific Ocean.

  • @AV8R_1
    @AV8R_1 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the watch! I have a blue Navitimer, myself! Beautiful chronographs!

  • @thathbgamer9863
    @thathbgamer9863 Před 3 lety +1

    "Authorities assure him he can't access his money" Lol .. yeah right.

    • @captaintripps8490
      @captaintripps8490 Před 3 lety +1

      The password is linked to the wallet , but the wallet can be recreated. If you have your seed phrase, all you need is a new wallet. Enter the seed phrase and you can now access the crypto.
      Leaving the authorities with an empty wallet. 😂

  • @SHerbeck91
    @SHerbeck91 Před 3 lety +14

    I guess that is where "it got lost in a boating accident" came from. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @archygrey9093
      @archygrey9093 Před 3 lety +1

      "I hit my head during a boating accident and forgot the password"

  • @aliabdi8427
    @aliabdi8427 Před 3 lety +54

    imagine the password is "I forgot my password I don't know what it is" lol

    • @Daniela-pr7rz
      @Daniela-pr7rz Před 3 lety +3

      or "I will never tell the police my password"

    • @TheOJDrinker
      @TheOJDrinker Před 3 lety +1

      That's a passPHRASE... passwords don't have spaces.

    • @daren32909
      @daren32909 Před 3 lety

      Crypto wallets are usually pass phrases of 12 words.

    • @claytonhayes3024
      @claytonhayes3024 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheOJDrinker you must be fun at parties

  • @drew3502
    @drew3502 Před 3 lety +1

    This is now a criminal offence in Australia. Since 2018!

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... Před 3 lety

      May be a criminal offence, but you still don't have to give your password up. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences of that decision.

  • @williamrickard8302
    @williamrickard8302 Před 3 lety

    BRO!!!!! THE WRIF STICKER......LOVE IT OLD SCHOOL.....HAD MY CEILING COVERED IN THOSE.

  • @goodall1bay
    @goodall1bay Před 3 lety +128

    Good on him. According to the system the currency doesn't exist. yet they want to capitalise.

    • @antonphibes4924
      @antonphibes4924 Před 3 lety +5

      You do realize he stole that money from other people, they paid the price.
      Or does anti government = criminal? That would actually make sense of some of these comments.

    • @sebastianhaslinger4307
      @sebastianhaslinger4307 Před 2 lety +4

      @@antonphibes4924 If I understood it correctly then he didn't actually steal the money from others, but made their computers mine it for him so he stole processing power/electrical power I guess?

    • @JoViljarHaugstulen
      @JoViljarHaugstulen Před 2 lety +2

      @@antonphibes4924 "You do realize he stole that money from other people, they paid the price."
      They paid the price... so if the government got access to the bitcoin they would give it to the people who paid the price then? If not I don't see how it helps those people who paid the price? Yes of course he should be punished but I very much doubt that government would actually give the bitcoins to the people that was hacked so if he gives it up or not it won't change much for them

    • @douglasrowland3722
      @douglasrowland3722 Před 2 lety +1

      WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO TAKE IT FROM HIM IF IT HAS NO VALUE?????

    • @alexanderblackburn4520
      @alexanderblackburn4520 Před 2 lety

      @@antonphibes4924 I see your point, but I would rather 1 thief have the money, instead of the government who fucks over everyone.

  • @jamescaley9942
    @jamescaley9942 Před 3 lety +21

    Not to mention the guy who was on his 9th of 10 attempts to guess his password to unlock millions.

  • @PhrostyGaming
    @PhrostyGaming Před 2 lety +13

    Just simply say “I don’t remember what it was” they cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this mans brain contains the password 😂

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler Před 10 měsíci

      This is not how it works.

    • @PhrostyGaming
      @PhrostyGaming Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@12345fowler It was a two year old comment that wasn't meant to be serious, you are slow in more than your brain, my friend.

  • @smartazz61
    @smartazz61 Před 2 lety +2

    So what are they going to do? Keep him in prison forever? Can they do that? I don't think legally. He might really have forgotten.

  • @everintransit4240
    @everintransit4240 Před 3 lety +16

    I watched a video yesterday about a well off gentleman who collects military vehicles. He bought a Russian T-34 tank for $30.000. When they cleaned out the fuel tank they found five large fold bars in it. I think said it was worth about 2.5 million dollars.

    • @FlexDRG
      @FlexDRG Před 3 lety

      Buying secondhand stuff, or better yet storage lockers, is a great way of whitewashing stolen goods. Not sure how closely that is monitored by police.

    • @JasonW.
      @JasonW. Před 3 lety +5

      T-34 tanks needed those gold bars to get better traction in the winter roads.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting Před 3 lety +1

      And then the IRS came after him for income tax and capital gains tax on the gold, as well as circumvention of import duties (and thus smuggling) on the gold, took it all and fined him several million dollars? That's what they'd do here...

    • @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
      @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Před 3 lety

      @@jwenting
      I think it happened in the UK IRC, and he just told the authorities about it, and willingly gave it to them.

    • @MartintheTinman
      @MartintheTinman Před 3 lety +2

      There's an edit button for when you spell gold f o l d

  • @AlmostBipedal
    @AlmostBipedal Před 3 lety +10

    They obviously don't understand it if they think they're denying him 'his' money by confiscating his wallet! Ha ha!

    • @uninformedluddite
      @uninformedluddite Před 3 lety +1

      That made me laugh too

    • @chadjones4255
      @chadjones4255 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, exactly. And all the commentators seem to make this mistake as well.

  • @weblightstudio8215
    @weblightstudio8215 Před 3 lety +10

    I was tortured by police after I got an insurance payout and wouldnt give them access to the bank account. Never give them access

  • @garymartin9777
    @garymartin9777 Před 3 lety +3

    SCOTUS has already decided a case like this when they ruled that a person being coerced to reveal a safe combination was protected under the 5th as "content of the mind". Then they went on to rule that coercing someone to reveal the location of a safe key was not. Don't quite understand that but a bitcoin password falls in the first case.

    • @38Maelstorm
      @38Maelstorm Před měsícem

      Do you know what the case was?

  • @nospam3001
    @nospam3001 Před 3 lety +69

    FYI: If he can get away from the police he might still be able to recover his money. He doesn't need the wallet if he remembers his twelve word encryption key. Bitcoin exists on the blockchain. Wallets only store keys to entries on the blockchain.

    • @johnnyjoseph1389
      @johnnyjoseph1389 Před 3 lety +16

      I would assume someone smart enough to be mining Bitcoin on other people's computers illegally probably knows how to access his money without the physical wallet...

    • @cinemaadherent
      @cinemaadherent Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, that was the question on my mind this whole video.

    • @traeselders2399
      @traeselders2399 Před 3 lety +1

      That was my thought, or possibly that since they have his hot wallet he may have simply transferred them out of that wallet onto a cold wallet, I don't believe they would have any way to know untill they unlock the one they are holding lol

    • @craigt2003
      @craigt2003 Před 3 lety +3

      yep exactly that's what i was thinking, i thought i was missing something here...you don't need the wallet to recover them.

    • @1dgram
      @1dgram Před 3 lety +2

      They know the wallet's public address. They can see if the balance has been transferred to another wallet and that new wallet's public address. That information is all available from the blockchain.

  • @timinwsac
    @timinwsac Před 3 lety +33

    I keep my passwords stuffed in a paper bag under my mattress.

    • @Foolish188
      @Foolish188 Před 3 lety +6

      What is your name and address? Asking for a friend.

    • @jakefilmore
      @jakefilmore Před 3 lety +1

      When your house burns down?

    • @bohemoth1
      @bohemoth1 Před 3 lety

      Better yet keep it written on TOILET PAPER!

    • @ElixirEcho
      @ElixirEcho Před 3 lety

      @@bohemoth1 Forbidden TP

  • @human_shaped
    @human_shaped Před 3 lety

    Great episode. Some nice meandering side stories made for good entertainment.

  • @Vention1MGTOW
    @Vention1MGTOW Před 3 lety +6

    When I'm under stress I tend to forget things. Like when I went for cancer treatment then couldnt unlock my laptop for a month or two after I got home. Had to buy a new one. Just sayen. Jail is pretty traumatic.

    • @DVankeuren
      @DVankeuren Před 3 lety

      You didn't have to buy a new one.

  • @GalileonPrime
    @GalileonPrime Před 3 lety +11

    Let me see if I got this right. Tommy Thomson got, in actual fact, convicted by a judge of contempt, without any actual proof of deception. And gets imprisoned for as long as the judge wants, without benefit of trial? Would this not fall under cruel and unusual punishment? Sounds like something that should be appealed up to the Supreme court.

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 2 lety

      Why? He's a douche that defrauded his investors, he deserves it. He has no proof he's telling the truth either.

    • @user-svqmbiv
      @user-svqmbiv Před 2 lety

      @@nodak81 Tell me you don't know how American courts work without saying you don't know how American courts work.

    • @bajajoes1
      @bajajoes1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nodak81 A Negative cannot be proven.

    • @dragoned7685
      @dragoned7685 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nodak81 You dont need to prove someone is innocent, you need to prove someone is guilty.

    • @kolerick
      @kolerick Před 10 měsíci

      because the guy didn't know WHEN to keep silent, then contradicted what he said. It's on tribunal record so it's evidence (he basically confessed he knew where the gold was, to get a better deal.)

  • @popquizzz
    @popquizzz Před 3 lety +13

    Love the Art Bell T-shirt. Can't tell you how many times I was entertained by this guys show.

    • @KC9UDX
      @KC9UDX Před 3 lety +1

      Wanna go for a ride?

    • @1mozfan1
      @1mozfan1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@KC9UDX more like "wanna take a ride?"

    • @KC9UDX
      @KC9UDX Před 3 lety +2

      @@1mozfan1 West of the Rockies, you're on the air.

    • @rollomaughfling380
      @rollomaughfling380 Před 3 lety

      Gah! Thank you, I was racking my brain trying to work that out the last half of the video! I was thinking it was Joe Turkel as Eldon Tyrell from Blade Runner

  • @briandavis7811
    @briandavis7811 Před 2 lety +1

    When one door closes another opens , just don't let it hit you in the face !

  • @aeverl0
    @aeverl0 Před 3 lety

    I love it 😂. Attacking the judge Plan B . I needed that laugh.

  • @firsttpt
    @firsttpt Před 3 lety +30

    Digital treasure map needed.

  • @germanespichan114
    @germanespichan114 Před 3 lety +6

    How can this man can be on contempt on court, for not testifying against himself..?...you only on contempt if you are a defendant..

    • @kellysiefkas9595
      @kellysiefkas9595 Před 3 lety

      That's on America...you still have some rights. Elsewhere not so much.

  • @garygodwin9263
    @garygodwin9263 Před 3 lety +1

    Like your shirt, i listened to Art for years when I was trucking. Looked forward to his ghost to ghost shows

  • @powerof3online733
    @powerof3online733 Před 3 lety

    All Americans need to listen to this @
    this is your Freedom! "Knowledge Will Forever Govern Ignorance"

  • @kirkh4205
    @kirkh4205 Před 3 lety +16

    Most courts operate on the principal, it's The Judge's Court Room and if he wants to bury you under the courthouse, everyone goes along with him.

  • @Brovillion559
    @Brovillion559 Před 3 lety +8

    It’s gonna take the government a very very long time to take this guys bitcoin. If he has a 16 digit password then he’s good.

    • @eurojay4847
      @eurojay4847 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s not a password it’s a 12 word seed phrase the private key and it would take them 10000 years with a computer the size of the earth to figure it out

  • @jamiebray8532
    @jamiebray8532 Před 3 lety

    Oh well... If I can't have it. Well neither can you. 😁😆😅😂🤣

  • @rogueelement5410
    @rogueelement5410 Před 2 lety

    I love the Art Bell tee shirt. This is a good episode to wear it for. You're awesome.

  • @ROE675
    @ROE675 Před 3 lety +13

    Have they checked to see if the password to his digital wallet is stored in his prison wallet?

    • @stevelehto
      @stevelehto  Před 3 lety +6

      Probably "password".

    • @jimh3588
      @jimh3588 Před 3 lety +1

      Now that is funny, unless your prison wallets prolapsed and you password is revealed .

    • @thunderbird0024
      @thunderbird0024 Před 3 lety

      @@stevelehto superman

  • @boikatsapiens499
    @boikatsapiens499 Před 3 lety +9

    Ben behind the marathon ribbons.

  • @thomasmaughan4798
    @thomasmaughan4798 Před 2 lety +1

    It is a strange thing that refusing a court order can produce life in prison or jail but murder gets a few years.

  • @Hexxicano
    @Hexxicano Před rokem

    Years ago when I was in my 20's I worked security at a hotel, graveyard shift... Loved listening to Art Bell.

  • @angusnz7910
    @angusnz7910 Před 3 lety +14

    This brought a chuckle to me and first time in ages of CZcams. So good to see someone either sticking it to the courts, or at least not bowing to threats. Pity of they genuinely can’t remember...but I like to think they just bring stubborn and good on them. Sometimes it’s worth it just to let them know you can’t make me say something if I really don’t want to 😝

  • @ChrisJ-mf7cj
    @ChrisJ-mf7cj Před 3 lety +9

    How can they continue to hold Thompson in jail for contempt indefinitely though? Contempt can’t be a life sentence can it? Shouldn’t be more than a year long sentence anyway.

  • @Tsamokie
    @Tsamokie Před 2 lety

    Steve, I watched 'Red Metal: The Copper Country Strike of 1913' today. You did good. You had a good presence in the film. Congrats.

  • @asherael
    @asherael Před 2 lety

    AAAAH, Oh my God, "we call that plan B" I'm goddamn dying!!🤣🤣

  • @bargdaffy1535
    @bargdaffy1535 Před 3 lety +5

    A Coin Password is usually extraordinarily long (like 14 questions and answers) and has to be written down some where Unless you have an extraordinary memory.

    • @gabrielonofrei4595
      @gabrielonofrei4595 Před 3 lety

      You could memorize it if you really needed to

    • @animal0mother
      @animal0mother Před 3 lety

      Or set your password to something you've already memorized.

  • @dpeagles
    @dpeagles Před 3 lety +13

    I hope he doesn't write his passwords down on a Post-It note on his desk like my wife does.

    • @siggyincr7447
      @siggyincr7447 Před 3 lety +5

      Under normal circumstances that's actually fairly safe as the biggest threat is from being hacked by someone who doesn't have access to your physical computer. But in situations like this it would be wise to memorize it.

    • @myownruin187
      @myownruin187 Před 3 lety

      😂😂😂

  • @micco6020
    @micco6020 Před 3 lety

    The contempt of court.... Can you testify and say you forgot to avoid contempt?

  • @dowen1511
    @dowen1511 Před rokem +1

    I know a guy that found money from a bank robbery in the 50s hidden in a house he bought in the 80s and turned it in and then got charged with the crime of the bank robbery and put in prison for 7 years ! For posession of the stolen money .
    And nostatutes of limitations was not recognised by the judge .

  • @vidalott
    @vidalott Před 3 lety +15

    Knowing your opinion on asset forfeiture, I’m surprised you framed this as a problem.
    Sounds like a solution.

  • @tkd4zgqg
    @tkd4zgqg Před 3 lety +7

    Love the Art Bell t-shirt.
    Love me some Coast to Coast original!!! (And new)

  • @IamDerick
    @IamDerick Před 2 lety +1

    Love the Art Bell Tee. Cheers.

  • @suttercane129
    @suttercane129 Před 2 lety +1

    I LOVE your Art Bell T-Shirt!!!!

  • @joshjosh1780
    @joshjosh1780 Před 3 lety +5

    A few hundred years ago, being caught and assumed in possession of important knowledge was a death sentence, you were almost always tortured to death in some gruesome way, even if you told them the truth and they could verify it, they would assume you had more since you gave it up so easy considering their experience of people they were sure knew but never told them and died before telling (because of course they didn't know anything). If you did survive the torture and they stopped I would argue that was worse because they would throw you in the dungeon until you died of infection or dehydration.

    • @jimmieroan9881
      @jimmieroan9881 Před 2 lety

      yeah today they just show you pictures of biden and whoopi and threaten to put you in a room with either of them

  • @Gh..o..s..t
    @Gh..o..s..t Před 3 lety +4

    90 days contempt of court and brought to judge to be released the next day.. thats when you tell the judge to fucking off and walk out

  • @elevakennelsandboardingllc1397

    Love the Art Bell shirt. What a radio host.

  • @Han-Solo459
    @Han-Solo459 Před 3 lety

    The red Daytona Charger on the shelf with the mics is absolutely gorgeous.

  • @HellNoMoreBiden
    @HellNoMoreBiden Před 3 lety +5

    You need my password to seize my wallet. Apparently he's lost the password.

  • @norezenable
    @norezenable Před 3 lety +7

    Sounds like the court may have messed up. I have met people who were on indefinite probation until they paid all of their restitution. And money is fungible. If he owes $60 million, he owes $60 million. One way he can pay is by providing his password. Another way is to make payments for the rest of his life while being monitored by a probation officer to ensure he doesn't spend money or obtain any assets outside his normal means - in which case the court seizes and auctions them off.

    • @shaunclarkson7131
      @shaunclarkson7131 Před 3 lety +1

      Does he owe, 60 million, or X amount of BTC.
      If the amount is in $$ at time of trial, then eventually, or even now, he could sell "part" of the BTC he has to pay the fine, and keep the rest.

    • @evannibbe9375
      @evannibbe9375 Před 2 lety

      @@shaunclarkson7131 Technically, he only owes the value of the computer time he used, which should be far less than the value of the BTC mined on the computers.

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 Před 2 lety +1

    No Mount Gox was like a centralized bank where they held your keys.
    And that is why you must hold your coins in a cold wallet.

  • @paulstrauss9146
    @paulstrauss9146 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes, they can- and will- lock you up. However, what few people realize is the potential "haul" determines how motivated they are to do it.