I find these interviews profound and they have invigorated my practice. I am really grateful. I consider Khyentse Norbu to be like the Jean Genet of Tibetan Buddhism. A very great film director as well; many of is teachings are offered through his complex films.
This interview is quite 'westernized' because of the questions were raised from a western culture based mainly on logic and human level of acceptance towards scientific facts, at least this are how a doctorate degree is conferred in worldly famous universities nowadays. Maybe the interviewers hold these scholarly degrees too. Thank you very much for taking time to record this interview for the benefits of all buddhists and others. 💖 🙏🙏🙏
the point is not that it sounds like an excuse, but that even if it is true, such kind of explanation can always be used no matter what horrible actions the religious leaders do. In the end, you just can never know . And you just slowly get used to never doubting the actions of the gurus. And its obviously dangerous.
But I must add, maybe it is the expectation that the actions of a human being ( the guru ) can ever be flawless in a purist sense , that is truly the "impuire" perception the guru wants you to get rid of. I mean I dont intend to criticise any guru with my comment.
It seems like the people around Robert Spatz were the people MOST in need of authentic dharma teachings from H.H Dudjom and Dilgo Khyentse. If these great lamas refused to teach them it would show a lack of compassion. Also, these great lamas likely transmitted healing and knowledge at the deeper alaya level to help these people. If these great lamas knew about the corruption then of course they would want to help, just coming to teach isn't the same as telling people they should continue to follow Spatz, in fact they likely planted the idea for people to detach from Spatz on both the surface and deeper levels. These 2 guys seem intent on holding a grudge against a couple of Buddhas, this is a bad investment.
There is no compromise between right and wrong. I would rather not have money for larger projects than allow a person to suffer because of me or my ignorance. The suffering of the world will not be reduced by such compromises. They are the cause of the constant increase in suffering. It's a shame to hear "this is really complicated".
歷史在重複曾經的發生。宗喀巴大師當年因為類似的理由革新了舊傳統成立的格魯巴。從此藏僧開始披黃袍。 We are just repeating history now. Looking back Tibetan Dharma’s history, you will see the similar corruptions had happened and been corrected too.
The more access to information and confidantes the more “omniscience”. The kindergarten teacher will seem omniscient to the 6 year old and this be wonderful in many situations. Like, “wow it was great that the teacher just seemed to know that the child would need an insulin shot at noon and so made sure the nurse would be scheduled. TEENAGERS; the more omniscient teachers the better!!! Public Works: it is great that experts will know the maximum flood lines etc. I’m wondering if the ancient weren’t speaking of such things. Due to status, ability to communicate and the range of one’s relations one may have the time and luxury of a larger view. Humans however, especially one human, have extremely limited view. Thus the value of council and Sangha. I suppose one might attain a type of personal omniscience of sorts of one’s own mind stream?
These interviewers should consider helping those confused and hurt from past confusion to work towards healing, clarity and mutual support from each other with younger leaders who have worked, as these young interviewers seem to have worked, to understand this specific history.
I would slap him for the attitude. An attitude without responsibility, without clear knowledge, without remorse, without humility in the name of what Buddhism should represent. Pity for those who suffer. The interview should last 5 minutes in which he prostrate himself on the ground and pray for the victims. Perhaps he has forgotten the special and very numerous rules for the monks.
@@LUUUUTHEWAY correct. Of course I don't know enough about the situation, but in this video, the impression I get as a viewer is as if he wants to trivialize it. That's my only criticism: what you morally disagree with should not receive tolerance, especially not from a monk who is respected by many.
It's so sad to see the Lamaism is now being named Tibetan Budhism, in so doing, it defamed the name of Tibet and the Budhism. Please read the history, Tibet did not have "Budhism", it only had Bon religion for thousand of years, the Bon wiped out Tantra (so called Tibet Budhism) one thousand year ago, which is part of Hindu practice, until 1500 later Tantra established by Gelug Ba (yellow hat) in Tibet. It should be named as Tibet Tantra religion, which is now combination of Bon (oringinated from Shamanism), and Tantra practice.
I find these interviews profound and they have invigorated my practice. I am really grateful. I consider Khyentse Norbu to be like the Jean Genet of Tibetan Buddhism. A very great film director as well; many of is teachings are offered through his complex films.
看完才了解净空法师对佛学的正确传播和平等看待一切宗教的伟大之处
This interview is quite 'westernized' because of the questions were raised from a western culture based mainly on logic and human level of acceptance towards scientific facts, at least this are how a doctorate degree is conferred in worldly famous universities nowadays. Maybe the interviewers hold these scholarly degrees too. Thank you very much for taking time to record this interview for the benefits of all buddhists and others. 💖 🙏🙏🙏
👍👍👍Very good interview, inspiring to hear
後面講的很好 很感動🥺
其实，藏传没事／佛教也没事。
有事的是人，就针对个人而说即可..
世界上没一个人就能等於一个团体或国家。最多也是代表吧了！
不对称的，换了即是，那来那么多争议的烦恼❤
祝愿每个组织，宗教，国家的代表都能引导大众带来和平快乐富是幸福。
完全認同+1😺🙌 佛法沒有問題、有問題的是人 人有習氣妄想分別執著
Buddhism is actually the most Avant-garde, most progressive, but our societies and culture made it so archaic, so old-fashioned...
the point is not that it sounds like an excuse, but that even if it is true, such kind of explanation can always be used no matter what horrible actions the religious leaders do. In the end, you just can never know . And you just slowly get used to never doubting the actions of the gurus. And its obviously dangerous.
But I must add, maybe it is the expectation that the actions of a human being ( the guru ) can ever be flawless in a purist sense , that is truly the "impuire" perception the guru wants you to get rid of. I mean I dont intend to criticise any guru with my comment.
It seems like the people around Robert Spatz were the people MOST in need of authentic dharma teachings from H.H Dudjom and Dilgo Khyentse. If these great lamas refused to teach them it would show a lack of compassion. Also, these great lamas likely transmitted healing and knowledge at the deeper alaya level to help these people. If these great lamas knew about the corruption then of course they would want to help, just coming to teach isn't the same as telling people they should continue to follow Spatz, in fact they likely planted the idea for people to detach from Spatz on both the surface and deeper levels. These 2 guys seem intent on holding a grudge against a couple of Buddhas, this is a bad investment.
Jewel of Buddhism 🙏🙏🙏
Minute 13 onward, authentic Lamas like Dilgo Khyentse and Dudjom Rpcs had never been very happy at giving tantric teachings...❤
could anybody refer the link to this . I would be much appreciated.
There is no compromise between right and wrong. I would rather not have money for larger projects than allow a person to suffer because of me or my ignorance. The suffering of the world will not be reduced by such compromises. They are the cause of the constant increase in suffering. It's a shame to hear "this is really complicated".
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
為任何惡找藉口
就是墮落的開始
即使你無法消除邪惡的發生
甚至你對邪惡抱著憐憫之心
但至少你不應該為它找理由
很多事情涉及人事物越多，越复杂，看似找理由，但何尝不也是在陈述一种现实状况呢。
@@oliviacao3886
為惡者，常常就是用這一套說詞，來模糊掉自己為惡的事實。
他後面花了很大的篇幅在討論各式教派的錯誤，我想你應該沒有看完整部片...也沒有想了解。而且他並不是作惡的當事者，他為何需要找藉口？
@@LUUUUTHEWAY
我想你並沒有很深入並仔細的思考我所說的事情
現在的宏法教導者，不管是上師或名嘴、老師，都需要作改變了。
都需要有民主化意識素養，尊重普世價值，不能再以為自己可以專斷威權獨裁。
行為要遵守國家法律（違法一樣要接受法律制裁，自然當小心避免性騷、性侵、詐欺、強制等類似犯罪行為言語嫌疑，即使你自認沒有），組織或財務也要透明公開公平公正，而制度健全的國家應都會納入規範監督。
營利組織尚且如此，行善機構組織、宗教組織基本原則也得如此。
這是世間法，基本合格了，再談出世間法。
See and listen 1:12:15
歷史在重複曾經的發生。宗喀巴大師當年因為類似的理由革新了舊傳統成立的格魯巴。從此藏僧開始披黃袍。
We are just repeating history now. Looking back Tibetan Dharma’s history, you will see the similar corruptions had happened and been corrected too.
Rinpoche is soooo wisdom. OMG
Political then why human in the first place
38:08
寧波車講法令人失望，真正上師如敦珠法王二世，知到大㘣滿要傳去漢土，最终得受記係一名漢人上師，佛法會滅但不會断，不要再解釋，如傳正法空行勇父護法加持。🙏
The more access to information and confidantes the more “omniscience”. The kindergarten teacher will seem omniscient to the 6 year old and this be wonderful in many situations. Like, “wow it was great that the teacher just seemed to know that the child would need an insulin shot at noon and so made sure the nurse would be scheduled.
TEENAGERS; the more omniscient teachers the better!!!
Public Works: it is great that experts will know the maximum flood lines etc.
I’m wondering if the ancient weren’t speaking of such things. Due to status, ability to communicate and the range of one’s relations one may have the time and luxury of a larger view. Humans however, especially one human, have extremely limited view. Thus the value of council and Sangha.
I suppose one might attain a type of personal omniscience of sorts of one’s own mind stream?
These interviewers should consider helping those confused and hurt from past confusion to work towards healing, clarity and mutual support from each other with younger leaders who have worked, as these young interviewers seem to have worked, to understand this specific history.
沒有真實的去修過
光這樣的對談是沒有意義的
不可能這樣談你会明白的
我認為這兩位應該是有在接觸相關的，從他們的對談可以知道們似乎也在困擾著修行的相關問題。
@@LUUUUTHEWAY 接觸与實修是兩回事
@@cyruscyrus5633 啊，我剛剛找到了，這兩位是台灣的藏傳佛教徒。
而且仁波切在影片中不斷提到大家在談論是很好的，所以我想就算兩位不是修行人，談論依然是有幫助的，不需要有資格論的限制。
@@LUUUUTHEWAY 他們就是擺明的說法 你不懂不要乱說
@@cyruscyrus5633看來你應該知道某些內情
If this is a rinpoche, then I’m budda himself. Am I the only one seeing this King has not wear any clothes.
Yes, you are
😞.......THIS BUSINESS IS A BIG SHAME..........🙏OM MANI PADME HUNG🙏
I would slap him for the attitude. An attitude without responsibility, without clear knowledge, without remorse, without humility in the name of what Buddhism should represent. Pity for those who suffer. The interview should last 5 minutes in which he prostrate himself on the ground and pray for the victims. Perhaps he has forgotten the special and very numerous rules for the monks.
做錯事的人並不是他，他為何需要再討論佛教問題訪談中不斷表示悔恨？他們在討論的是佛教的系統性問題呀老兄。一直在這樣的場合不斷表示同情不斷和情緒，我認為更多的是做作。
@@LUUUUTHEWAY correct. Of course I don't know enough about the situation, but in this video, the impression I get as a viewer is as if he wants to trivialize it. That's my only criticism: what you morally disagree with should not receive tolerance, especially not from a monk who is respected by many.
Weird guys, such hangups.
一问一答皆不離世裕人類的思维，不觉有什么見性的话头？！
学佛之后，才明白人類腦装中的思维，大多数都是無知与荒谬。
何時才能達到造人不被人腦之所之累兼能過著活在彩虹🌈的生活，就算是賺了 ！😁😁
look at his hand movement and facial expression, and the way he finding excuses, can it be more disgusting?
It's so sad to see the Lamaism is now being named Tibetan Budhism, in so doing, it defamed the name of Tibet and the Budhism. Please read the history, Tibet did not have "Budhism", it only had Bon religion for thousand of years, the Bon wiped out Tantra (so called Tibet Budhism) one thousand year ago, which is part of Hindu practice, until 1500 later Tantra established by Gelug Ba (yellow hat) in Tibet. It should be named as Tibet Tantra religion, which is now combination of Bon (oringinated from Shamanism), and Tantra practice.
lol. wtf is he snorting and putting on his neck?
喇嘛教是印度的密乘和西藏地方本教的混合，不是佛教（佛陀從來沒有說過密乘教），本教的來源是薩滿教，這才是問題的所在！如果客氣，不說喇嘛教非邪教，起碼不是佛教！稱它們為藏傳佛教，真是太高抬它們了。
中国唐朝 有唐密后来传到了日本在那里保留 而在中国本土已经消失 近代又从日本传回中国