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藏傳佛教的爭議: 與宗薩欽哲仁波切對話(續)On Controversies in Tibetan Buddhism: Discussion with Dzongsar Rinpoche Part 2
藏傳佛教的爭議: 與宗薩欽哲仁波切對話(續)On Controversies in Tibetan Buddhism: Discussion with Dzongsar Rinpoche Part 2
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藏傳佛教的爭議: 與宗薩欽哲仁波切對話 On Controversies in Tibetan Buddhism: Discussion with Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche
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藏傳佛教的爭議: 與宗薩欽哲仁波切對話 On Controversies in Tibetan Buddhism: Discussion with Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche
could anybody refer the link to this <The lost Silent> . I would be much appreciated.
一堆废话,政治问题问个宗教人士,就直接问问他自己信不信教。能转世还怕死
寧波車講法令人失望,真正上師如敦珠法王二世,知到大㘣滿要傳去漢土,最终得受記係一名漢人上師,佛法會滅但不會断,不要再解釋,如傳正法空行勇父護法加持。🙏
這位寧波車之解釋令人失望。🙏
具德上師绝對不會令弟子受傷害。
四法寶鬘講如何選擇上師,上師如何選擇弟子,現今上師,法王,多如牛毛,小心。🙏
I find these interviews profound and they have invigorated my practice. I am really grateful. I consider Khyentse Norbu to be like the Jean Genet of Tibetan Buddhism. A very great film director as well; many of is teachings are offered through his complex films.
what a fascinating and useful conversation! I am very impressed by the questions. I am very grateful for this conversation since I am doing Guru yoga part of ngondro now.
If this is a rinpoche, then I’m budda himself. Am I the only one seeing this King has not wear any clothes.
Yes, you are
教法由人造,是故有弊端。如是弊端才是密宗是否有商確之餘地所在?! 会傷害人的教法,非正法也 ! 無奈凡夫就是不明什么才是「正」?! 人類天生的腦袋(指凡夫)就是用来被人洗的,被洗多或洗少少,就要看个人條「命」了。 祝活在西藏密教的信眾们好運,打好个底(先明顯正之道)后再去修密宗,会安全D。哈哈 !
一问一答皆不離世裕人類的思维,不觉有什么見性的话头?! 学佛之后,才明白人類腦装中的思维,大多数都是無知与荒谬。 何時才能達到造人不被人腦之所之累兼能過著活在彩虹🌈的生活,就算是賺了 !😁😁
喇嘛教是印度的密乘和西藏地方本教的混合,不是佛教(佛陀從來沒有說過密乘教),本教的來源是薩滿教,這才是問題的所在!如果客氣,不說喇嘛教非邪教,起碼不是佛教!稱它們為藏傳佛教,真是太高抬它們了。
中国唐朝 有唐密后来传到了日本在那里保留 而在中国本土已经消失 近代又从日本传回中国
It's so sad to see the Lamaism is now being named Tibetan Budhism, in so doing, it defamed the name of Tibet and the Budhism. Please read the history, Tibet did not have "Budhism", it only had Bon religion for thousand of years, the Bon wiped out Tantra (so called Tibet Budhism) one thousand year ago, which is part of Hindu practice, until 1500 later Tantra established by Gelug Ba (yellow hat) in Tibet. It should be named as Tibet Tantra religion, which is now combination of Bon (oringinated from Shamanism), and Tantra practice.
It's so sad to see the Lamaism is now being named Tibetan Budhism, in so doing, it defamed the name of Tibet and the Budhism. Please read the history, Tibet did not have "Budhism", it only had Bon religion for thousand of years, the Bon wiped out Tantra (so called Tibet Budhism) one thousand year ago, which is part of Hindu practice, until 1500 later Tantra established by Gelug Ba (yellow hat) in Tibet. It should be named as Tibet Tantra religion, which is now combination of Bon (oringinated from Shamanism), and Tantra practice.
這個外國的女生提問很有邏輯
For the buddhists there is no controversy. No one believes her. Every single student of karmapa or Khyentse know this is plain Chlnese attempt to defame the great souls
宗教信仰需要慈悲,也需要智慧。像上師說的,很多正法遭到誤用,導致人們對宗教錯誤的理解,也就是“邪悟”。佛法裡的“邪”,不是指恐怖或魔鬼的意思,“邪”的意思是“錯誤”。即便只是“錯誤”的理解就能帶來災難的後果,因此我們都要小心心中的念頭並時時求證,不要盲目的信仰與崇拜。其實不管是不是宗教或在任何事上,都需要這樣求真求證的精神。
喇嘛教是印度的密乘和西藏地方本教的混合,不是佛教(佛陀從來沒有說過密乘教),本教的來源是薩滿教,這才是問題的所在!如果客氣,不說喇嘛教非邪教,起碼不是佛教!稱它們為藏傳佛教,真是太高抬它們了。
我個人覺得佛法以經被過度解釋,被利用來控制人而不是解放人。
This interview is quite 'westernized' because of the questions were raised from a western culture based mainly on logic and human level of acceptance towards scientific facts, at least this are how a doctorate degree is conferred in worldly famous universities nowadays. Maybe the interviewers hold these scholarly degrees too. Thank you very much for taking time to record this interview for the benefits of all buddhists and others. 💖 🙏🙏🙏
00:49:52 ChatGPT is mentioned! 😅
Free Tibet and everything will be fine
It’s good? What’s good? This is a rinpoche? His sloppiness and carelessness are simply shocking.
Sloppy or decent , it’s all from your own mind.😂
If it's the truth, any need to fear questioning or revealation?😊
Disagree, it’s not just in one’s mind, it has been observed and manifested through higgs field and became reality. He is like a bit size bug in the cosmos.
現在的宏法教導者,不管是上師或名嘴、老師,都需要作改變了。 都需要有民主化意識素養,尊重普世價值,不能再以為自己可以專斷威權獨裁。 行為要遵守國家法律(違法一樣要接受法律制裁,自然當小心避免性騷、性侵、詐欺、強制等類似犯罪行為言語嫌疑,即使你自認沒有),組織或財務也要透明公開公平公正,而制度健全的國家應都會納入規範監督。 營利組織尚且如此,行善機構組織、宗教組織基本原則也得如此。 這是世間法,基本合格了,再談出世間法。
其实,藏传没事/佛教也没事。 有事的是人,就针对个人而说即可.. 世界上没一个人就能等於一个团体或国家。最多也是代表吧了! 不对称的,换了即是,那来那么多争议的烦恼❤ 祝愿每个组织,宗教,国家的代表都能引导大众带来和平快乐富是幸福。
完全認同+1😺🙌 佛法沒有問題、有問題的是人 人有習氣妄想分別執著
look at his hand movement and facial expression, and the way he finding excuses, can it be more disgusting?
lol. wtf is he snorting and putting on his neck?
It is also well known, that in Buddhist Monestaries it is a daily happening that elder Monks harm little boys and Woman Monks through sexual missuse . I heard that from a Friend of mine 20 years ago. Another storie she has shared that there are Western Woman go there to sleep with Monks to have a tantric experience. But I have too say that in Germany we have the same in the Churchs and Monestries since 1000 of years. These organized false Religious understanding is wrong . They all have suppressed woman and suppressed Sex . Everybody has to take responsebility for himself and has to ask themself how you support the Buddhist System because you want something from those Lamas looking for guidance that ist the Problem. You put him on a pedestal but he is in the same Boat as you in the wheel of life and death. The whole Buddhist and also Katholic System has to be changed . Drop that Zölibat and live in the marketplace where you can proof and test your negative Emotions . I like to share something " You dont need any scriptures, you dont need any priest , you don't need to be in any religious organization you have to be just yourself - silently, peacefuly settling within your home and love and enjoy yourself. Buddha today would have been another beeing .Just Meditate and clean your mind dont stuff him with spiritual scripturse . Buddha became Enlightent through an experience of No Mind. Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche has to start the wheel knew
The Dalai Lama has once with the Case of Sogyal Rinpoche kritizised what he did, but he knew that years ahead and tacitly protected it and many others too
Why waste time listening to all this sophistry, the master of the dodge? . This guy is using the same argument as DL. “We don’t really know”, “even if we knew and said something how could we actually make these criminals stop what they are doing? etc. , conveniently ignoring the fact that if they actually censured the criminals (Sogyal, Spatz, Nakhba, Namgyal etc etc) they would be proclaiming for ALL to see and hear that this is criminal behaviour, contrary to Dharma, damaging to Sangha which would help the ‘victims’ immeasurably even if it didn’t stop the criminals. Instead they go free and continue their abuse. Imagine how many people would have have been spared if DL had censured Sogyal in the beginning of his career. Over 30 yrs ago. There are two main reasons why all this takes place. Inherent misogynist patriarchy, and money. Buddhist core teaching is Ahimsa (do no harm) and Renunciation. On both counts DL and his cohort are abysmal failures headed to the nethermost DEMONIC HELLS for immeasurable kalpas. They have perverted core Tantric teaching and actually believe their own lies. Pathetic. Having said all this, this is no different from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hinduism. They are ALL perverted Patriarchies and have brought humanity to the brink of EXTINCTION. DAMN them ALL.
Why waste time listening to all this sophistry, the master of the dodge? . This guy is using the same argument as DL. “We don’t really know”, “even if we knew and said something how could we actually make these criminals stop what they are doing? etc. , conveniently ignoring the fact that if they actually censured the criminals (Sogyal, Spatz, Nakhba, Namgyal etc etc) they would be proclaiming for ALL to see and hear that this is criminal behaviour, contrary to Dharma, damaging to Sangha which would help the ‘victims’ immeasurably even if it didn’t stop the criminals. Instead they go free and continue their abuse. Imagine how many people would have have been spared if DL had censured Sogyal in the beginning of his career. Over 30 yrs ago. There are two main reasons why all this takes place. Inherent misogynist patriarchy, and money. Buddhist core teaching is Ahimsa (do no harm) and Renunciation. On both counts DL and his cohort are abysmal failures headed to the nethermost DEMONIC HELLS for immeasurable kalpas. They have perverted core Tantric teaching and actually believe their own lies. Pathetic. Having said all this, this is no different from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hinduism. They are ALL perverted Patriarchies and have brought humanity to the brink of EXTINCTION. DAMN them ALL.
Part of the Tibetan practices are sexual tantric. Hundreds of women threw themselves at lamas both to learn the secrets and they thought the Lamas would change their lives. It seems Zen Buddhism is one of the few types of Buddhism where Zen masters can have marriages and sex. When the natural desire for sex is suppressed, it comes out in “perverted” or possibly violent ways. Lust for Enlightenment is similar to Lust for Sex.
Jewel of Buddhism 🙏🙏🙏
I would slap him for the attitude. An attitude without responsibility, without clear knowledge, without remorse, without humility in the name of what Buddhism should represent. Pity for those who suffer. The interview should last 5 minutes in which he prostrate himself on the ground and pray for the victims. Perhaps he has forgotten the special and very numerous rules for the monks.
做錯事的人並不是他,他為何需要再討論佛教問題訪談中不斷表示悔恨?他們在討論的是佛教的系統性問題呀老兄。一直在這樣的場合不斷表示同情不斷和情緒,我認為更多的是做作。
@@LUUUUTHEWAY correct. Of course I don't know enough about the situation, but in this video, the impression I get as a viewer is as if he wants to trivialize it. That's my only criticism: what you morally disagree with should not receive tolerance, especially not from a monk who is respected by many.
There is no compromise between right and wrong. I would rather not have money for larger projects than allow a person to suffer because of me or my ignorance. The suffering of the world will not be reduced by such compromises. They are the cause of the constant increase in suffering. It's a shame to hear "this is really complicated".
There are some lama teacher who re misusing beautiful teaching ..I am Buddhist not only I faith but rather I am Buddhist sciences because I am analysis who is real teacher or not .. then I will follow ..
See and listen 1:12:15
【藏傳佛教:噤聲秘密】│他五歲時被留在一個藏傳佛教的社區裡,並遭受毆打以及飢寒交迫│紀錄觀點 公共電視-紀錄觀點 4.83万位订阅者
喇嘛教是印度的密乘和西藏地方本教的混合,不是佛教(佛陀從來沒有說過密乘教),本教的來源是薩滿教,這才是問題的所在!如果客氣,不說喇嘛教非邪教,起碼不是佛教!稱它們為藏傳佛教,真是太高抬它們了。
@@JJ-uo9tj 然而舉世公認它是佛教一支。
😞.......THIS BUSINESS IS A BIG SHAME..........🙏OM MANI PADME HUNG🙏
歷史在重複曾經的發生。宗喀巴大師當年因為類似的理由革新了舊傳統成立的格魯巴。從此藏僧開始披黃袍。 We are just repeating history now. Looking back Tibetan Dharma’s history, you will see the similar corruptions had happened and been corrected too.
說誠實語,出廣長舌相,遍覆三千大千世界⋯⋯
放屁!難道罪犯就可以逍遙法外?不受任何懲罰?
The more access to information and confidantes the more “omniscience”. The kindergarten teacher will seem omniscient to the 6 year old and this be wonderful in many situations. Like, “wow it was great that the teacher just seemed to know that the child would need an insulin shot at noon and so made sure the nurse would be scheduled. TEENAGERS; the more omniscient teachers the better!!! Public Works: it is great that experts will know the maximum flood lines etc. I’m wondering if the ancient weren’t speaking of such things. Due to status, ability to communicate and the range of one’s relations one may have the time and luxury of a larger view. Humans however, especially one human, have extremely limited view. Thus the value of council and Sangha. I suppose one might attain a type of personal omniscience of sorts of one’s own mind stream?
These interviewers should consider helping those confused and hurt from past confusion to work towards healing, clarity and mutual support from each other with younger leaders who have worked, as these young interviewers seem to have worked, to understand this specific history.
Western people or Western culture trained believers approach Buddhism are still use their Christian ideas of dualistic separation of worldly viewpoints. The goal of Buddhism in the highest level is to break through the ordinary dualism and knowing emptiness of yourself and outside environment and the ultimate wisdom behind it. You need to know the nectar who will relive and awaken you even it was kept in a broken cupor by an assuming mis-shaped teacher. if you don't like it. you can just drink the essence of nectar and leave the cup and carriers and go away. Be also watching your teachers before you are devoted to him for three years according to tradition.
Western people or Western culture trained believers approach Buddhism are still use their Christian ideas of dualistic separation of worldly viewpoints. The goal of Buddhism in the highest level is to break through the ordinary dualism and knowing emptiness of yourself and outside environment and the ultimate wisdom behind it. You need to know the nectar who will relive and awaken you even it was kept in a broken cupor by an assuming mis-shaped teacher. if you don't like it. you can just drink the essence of nectar and leave the cup and carriers and go away. Be also watching your teachers before you are devoted to him for three years according to tradition.
What the Tibetans call Buddhism is a degenerate practice if you put it up against theraveda or even the so called Mahayana expressions of Buddhism. These Tibetans aren't misbehaving, it's what they do. Look into Tantra in all forms. It goes against any accepted societal ideas of morality. They can engage in any left handed practice from cannibalism, eating shit, anything that creates a mental upheaval. All of it will be within a ritualistic context, it's part of the practice. This is not Buddhism, it's a facade of Buddhism which they hide behind to legitimize their practice which is also greatly influenced by bon po shamanism. Especially if you're female, they will never teach you anything of spiritual value with regards to their secret teachings. It's a closed society, insiders only, males in particular, Tibetans only, and of them only a select few. Beware.
Very good. Thank you. People need to understand tibetan"buddhism" is not actually authentic Buddha's teachings. ❤
Not true. A spiritual path cannot be judged by its worst practitioners. Humans suffer, abuse, lie & cheat in all walks of life. These behaviours have no justification but do not represent the entire path
Buddhism its self authentic teaching but some of them misuse these teaching for benefit for them self.we re right to judge whether he is real teacher or not that’s our right . If he is not real teacher then we re right to not follow ... so it’s wrong to say Tibetan Buddhism its self not authentic teaching ..before comment Tibet Buddhism as I am Buddhism I just follow real teacher who teach real Buddhism not kind lama who are not sufficient to teach rather then manipulate themself and mis guided..thats lama no longer needed as teacher .
very good . His teachings where written down 500 Years after he has left his Body . What he realy has left behind is the Meditation Vipassana.
这些纪录片哪里能看到?为什么在网上找不到?应该呈现给更多的人!这并不是坏事,可以让更多学佛的人少走弯路
公視阿,台灣的
czcams.com/play/PLKhmlhJ4cevFq3C02LcqMRX790TpWr6yb.html
@@yuchishao807 怎么找?链接给一个?
@@zhunan9740 谢谢!但没有中文字幕啊😧
Vajrayana is Corrupt & Twisted ... Period
Vajrayana is Corrupt & Twisted ... Period
後面講的很好 很感動🥺
It is obvious that this issue is very difficult to answer even for Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. Because he kept hesitating in his answers.
是的,這是一個相當複雜的問題,他一直在組織自己的語言