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This all started from the 1996 Western Conference Finals between these same teams. Claude Lemieux of the Avs hit Red wings' Chris Draper into the boards from behind causing a broken jaw, shattered cheek, and orbital bone. The Avs won the series and eventually the Stanley Cup. This brawl was the peak of a penalty filled game. The game ended with over 228 penalty minutes handed out.
Making a clearly cheap shot from behind even worse was the fact that Lemieux bragged about doing it. It was then a certainty that this fight would happen at some point the next season.
This brawl was the following season. First time they played each other.
Nice breakdown but it goes so much further. Claude Limeaux had been a thorn in the Wings side even before the Draper hit, going back to when he was with the devils. The Wings ended Patrick Roy's time in Montreal a couple years earlier, and finally the Avs were once the Quebec Nordiques, and the Nordiques' final playoff series/games were beatings courtesy of the Wings.
@@stephenlucas5130 it was their fourth game of the season series. First that Claude had played against them that season due to injuries and being a healthy scratch in the previous games.
@@chrisdobbs9155 that's false, the Nordiques were in the eastern conference and Detroit was in the West at the time.
YES!!! We waited so long for that McCarty on Lemieux payback! I'm 78 years old now & it still feels satisfying.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 let’s go!!!!! 💪🏽
@@FTBREACTS theres a huge backstory to this. take some time to watch Unrivaled: Red Wings v. Avalanche. lemieux deserved ever friggin bit of what he got and is STILL hated in detroit
As an Avs fan, I agree. It was deserved, and a satisfying chapter in the rivalry
@@FTBREACTS If you want the full story, I suggest that you watch & react to "How one violent hit snowballed into years of championship-grade hockey".
This whole thing escalated not only from the hit on Draper, but the fact that Lemieux never apologized for it.
Side note: McCarty and Lemieux have since buried the hatchet... But Draper still doesn't seem to have ever forgiven Lemieux.
That game had like 8 more fights. And McCarty scored the game winner in OT. Got Player of the game. You gotta watch a longer version about the whole rivalry. Something like 6 championships between these 2 teams in 7 years. Just the best
"Beef rivalry" has a good video
Yes they were for sure the best two teams in hockey for about a decade which also fueled the hatred
McCarty only got 4 for roughing, if I remember right. No fighting major or anything.
one of the best games in nhl history
@Chemguy91 in fairness, I'm not sure it was a "fight". Claude turtled.
Wings fans will say he was a little b!tch. Avs fan will say McCarty was dirty.
As a wings fan, I'll say they're both right
This was the greatest night of hockey that ever existed. And as the Late Great Gary Thorn said at that time, "this is what had to happen". One of the greatest hockey games of all time.
Hey bud, it’s not the lake. Great Gary Thorne, it’s just Gary Thorne! He is alive and well!👍
Late great I meant. Damn spell check changes everything all the time
@@larrygilpin385Oh shit, I thought he died a couple of years ago. If you read this Gary Thorne, I apologize.
@@jamesbrown5600 All good!😄👍
Gary Thorne isn't dead...he's still great. 75 years old. It was actually Gary Thorne & Bill Clement..." well I oughta" Bill's famous line...watched all this hockey live when it happened. That day everyone was a Colorado Avalanche fan....because 90% of the country was sick of Detroit Redwings
The Goalie for the Red Wings Little Mike Vernon held his own!
He definitely got some licks in 4sho💪🏽💪🏽
Keep in mind Vernon is significantly smaller than Roy . He got the best punches in the fight between the two . But Patrick definitely won .
Important part is Detroit won this and the rivalry overall . This may not be the biggest rivalry in hockey history but it was the most intense between the absolute powerhouses of the league at the time . These two teams were heads and shoulders the best teams the NHL had to offer in this time .
Roy whooped Vernon’s ass.
3:33 Watch "How one violent hit snowballed into years of championship-grade hockey beef" by Secret Base for more context
That, ESPN'S E60: Unrivaled, and Adrien Dater's book Blood Feud.
Pinholes Graham has a video detailing all the games of the rivalry. It’s some real good stuff.
This fight had been brewing for a year. Every time they played, you were just waiting for it to go down. Finally, McCarty ripped the top of that boiling kettle and gave Lemeiux what he had coming. It was a violent rivalry for a few years. Some of the best ever in Hockeytown!
Most hockey fights are fueled by adrenaline, this was fueled by absolute rage. This was the last great rivalry the league has seen.
Those of us who were around for this remember why all these fights went on. It was pretty much all because of Lemieux's hit on Draper.
Yep, as a Wings fan, this was some incredible hockey to watch. The games weren't bad either. ;-)
I was at this game, I’ve been to 100 of Red wing games over 40 years and this was the loudest I ever heard even louder than game 4 of the 97’ Stanley cup game vs Flyers.
Wrong. It started after Igor Larionov smashed Adam Foote's face on the glass. Nice try tho.
Still defending Lemieux huh? Sad.
@@steverose3019 No you dumb dipshit lol
D Mac is a Detroit legend because of this.
This was a season in the making. Payback for a cheap shot. Best rivalry in sports ever. So many hall of fame players on these two teams
The amount of Hall of Famers b/t those two teams was insane. That time in hockey was by far the best. RedWings Avalanche and Stars come to mind as some badass teams back then.
Many of those Hall of Famers are now GM's and Head Coaches in the league.
these two teams regularly met in the western conference finals which always ended up being an epic series. often times better than the actual cup finals. old school hockey at its finest.
ESPN's 60 for 60 "Unrivaled" covered this whole thing and back story so well. I highly recommend.
I'm a Bruin's fan since I came from the hospital as a newborn. I came home in a Bruin's sleeper. 50-sum years later.. still going strong with my love of the "Bears".
That said; I love McCarty! He had a job to do; and got it done perfectly!
McCarty knew the "code"
Did Bowman order the Code Red?
I commented on your last video recommending this video and as I posted it you uploaded this one😂 you earned a sub bro. Loving the hockey reactions. NHL playoffs right around the corner. Even NBA fans voted the NHL playoffs as the most exciting out of all major sports. NHL playoffs are WILD bro. You gotta start watching and reacting to playoff games once they start. My college roommate was a black dude from the Bronx, huge Knicks fan. took him to a rangers vs islanders game at MSG and now he’s a die hard rangers fan. Watches more hockey than NBA. With playoffs staring in a few weeks, you are getting into hockey at the perfect time. Can’t wait to see more hockey reactions!
Brendan Shanahan, the red wings player who tackled the Colorado goalie, later becomes the NHL director of player safety.
Lol
I trust you have seen the photo Shanahan posted of his shoulder pads, noting that concussions could be removed from the game if everyone had to go back to the Coopers (or equivalent) that he wore.
There is no question that the game is / was safer when guys didn't wear helmets and when bench clearing brawls were allowable. You don't hit a guy high if he doesn't have a helmet, if you do, you get O Reilly'd or Schultz'd or Gillies'd and with any luck, Bobby Clarke'd to the ankle.
@@michaelzilkowsky2936 yeah because Paul Kariya and Eric Lindros had full, injury free careers? 🙄
@@poopmcgee2410 too bad you didnt play and get your fuckin face rearranged by Gillies. The dirty hits they took would have exacted revenge upon who was it, Stevens...?
Again, you're the type of f***stick that fighting keeps out of the game. Can you even skate? I would love to have had the opportunity to put a slapper into your eye
Shanahan is ironically the actual holder of the "Gordie Howe Hat Trick" record. Which is a goal, an assist, and a fight all in one game. Great credentials for Director of Player Safety.
Mike Vernon (Detroit's goalie) was the smallest guy in the league at the time. Larionov (Detroit number 8) was known as the professor as his game was like chess, he was not a fighter at all. The best part of this game was that Detroit tied up the game late in the third and the tie breaking goal was none other than McCarty.
As mentioned: this is the result of a cheap shot from the playoffs the year before. Draper had a broken jaw, orbital bone, broken cheek, cracked teeth and a concussion. Lemeuix who hit him only got a 2 game suspension
Also Lemieux's behavior after. Not sorry at all, saying the wings shouldn't be mad about the hit, they should be mad about the way they played. No remorse at all, and clearly a player with no conscience at all. Bowman said the whole thing could have been avoided with a simple "I'm sorry." But he wasn't, so you got the fight.
ESPN did a really nice E60 documentary on this rivalry a year or two ago. Really highly recommended.
Darren McCarty was considered the reigning middle weight champion of the NHL for his career playing
I’ve got a few autographed jerseys, my favorite ( I’m an oilers fan btw) is my Darren McCarty jersey with the inscription “bitch ass beat down ‘97” 😂
That's awesome!
that would have to be the pinnacle piece of nostalgia you have there. write a will. make sure it stays in "your or another" Red Wing family, forever. (i could see that as a glass case display some day)
Secret Base has a perfect video about this brawl and the entire Red Wings vs Avalanche rivalry of the 90s and 00s. Definitely worth watching! This was the most intense and authentic sports rivalry in sports history in my opinion. These teams deeply and truly HATED each other
this was epic to watch as it happened .
Claude Lemieux was notorious picking fights with small guys but would cower if they were the same size or bigger
The mid 90s to early we 2000s when ever these two teams played it was edge of your sest hockey because you knew a fight was gonna break out any second
i lived in detroit at the time. hell yeah we got revenge and won
Loving your hockey reactions! I'm from the UK and it's my fave sport by far. It's good to see more people being introduced to it! The playoffs start soon and it ramps everything up even further.
There's a ton of high skilled players and plays in the current game. Look up McDavid, MacKinnon, Kucherov if you want to see that side of things. Bedard is a rookie at Chicago who is tearing it up and supposed to be the next big player.
Lots of good rivalries too, although not as rough now as this was. Boston-Montreal, Boston-Toronto, Toronto-Ottawa, NY Rangers-Islanders-NJ Devils, Flyers-Penguins, Ottawa-Florida (Tkachuk brothers), Florida-Tampa Bay. There's probably a few others too, including the California ones!
Looking forward to more of your reactions to this incredible sport. It has absolutely everything and is so fun to watch!
Grew up watching these two teams trading cups and this video gives me chills every time.
I LOVED Shanahan’s tackle on Roy at Center Ice!
Stomping Tom Conners said it best.... "The good ole hockey game is the best game you can name and the best game you can name is the good ole Hockey Game!!!!!!" -Stomping Tom Conners a true Canadian hero and icon.
There's a documentary called E60 Unrivaled. It sheds light on a lot of the background that led up to this and the aftermath.
It’s wildly entertaining to watch you have no clue what’s going on. Anyone who’s gone down the hockey fight rabbit hole has come across this brawl. A classic. Nobody holds a grudge like hockey players.
Greatest hockey rivalry in the 90’s
For ten years the greatest rivalry in sports history.
Fight Night at the Joe! One of the greatest games (and most satisfying paybacks) in one of the most storied rivalries in the NHL. That was SUCH a good night.
You need to watch the rivalry video. I don't remember what it's called but it goes over the bad blood all the way back to when the Avalanche were in Quebec. The bad blood between goalie Patrick Roy and the Red Wings. All the heated games and dirty plays by both teams prior to this. These 2 teams had one of the best rivalries of any sport in the 90s.
a bunch of large men skating 40 mph with lethal weapons in their hands. what could possible go wrong? best... sport... ever...
Definitely need to follow up on the fully story of this!!! I was a kid during all of this and a wings fan. Best times in sports. Apparently the secret base video on it is good.
Gonna check this out and post tomorrow 👍🏽
Shanahan flying clothesline to stop the goalie from saving him is so epic
Check out " The Beef". It will explain everything
McCarty is a very good friend of my family. Has my uncle's name tattooed on his arm. This fight was big and had a lot of emotion in it. This really started my love for hockey.
I had no dog in this fight, but these Wings-Avs games were “must watch tv” at the time.
This was a long time coming. Draper of the Wings - #33 got wrecked by Lemieux the previous season. That McCarty pummeling of Lemieux, he knew it was coming when you saw him turtle like that. This was basically the pinnacle of 90's hockey.
This was an amazing altercation. The amount of all-time greats who were throwing knuckle sandwhiches, the amount of hall of famers, the skill on the ice.....this was an amazing night. Shanahan, Foote, Roy, Vernon, Larianov, Lemieux, McCarty are all legends not just for this fight but for their exploits over their entire careers.
I was watching this game! At the time, I was a new Hockey fan, because of my love for the newly relocated, Colorado Avalanche.....I live in Wyoming and THIS WAS definitely a new team to root for in our closest sports town of Denver. People, in 2024 ,STILL, talk about this game in Wyoming!
You have to check out "La bataille du vendredi saint" or the good friday massacre in english. Its between the quebec nordiques and montreal canadians, two cities just a 2h drive away. Litteraly everyone fought, bench cleared. It was the most intense rivalry in all of sports.
You’re just watching the right video. There is a whole video that goes into the history of it
LEGEND! I was there as a kid, no idea what I was watching, but man, EPIC!
It started when Claude Lemieux put a cheap hit from behind on Kris Draper, sending him face first into the boards. Broke his jaw, nose and cheekbone…basically crushed his face. The fact that Drapes came back and played at a high level for years is pretty amazing.
Also, you should check out a video about Pavel Datsyuk. The man revolutionized puck handling in the early 2000s-2010s, it’s like he was playing the street ball version of hockey, straight embarrassing guys who tried defending against him.
Is all started when Claude Lemieux hit on Kris Draper 14:07 into the First Period of the Western Conference Finals game 7, for checking from behind, Lemieux got ejected with a game misconduct, and suspended for first 2 games of the Stanley Cup Finals. Lemieux broke Draper's jaw, nose, and cheekbone. He had reconstructive surgery and had his jaw wied shut for weeks. That hit instigated one of the best rivalries to date. The reason they waited 301 days is because they wanted retaliation on Lemieux for that hit, but 2 games Lemieux didn't play, 1 was in Colorado, and they wanted it at home. That hit resulted in the Rule Boarding. I am a Colorado Avalanche fan and was at the game when Kris Draper got hit.
Now, Detroit fans call Lemieux a coward for Turtleing. He covered up because Darren McCarty rang the hell out of his bell (as he emitted in an interview with McCarty years later). The Patrick Roy vs Mike Vernon fight. Wings fans will also say Vernon won that fight. For Roy having his Catcher on (theres a strap that holds it on), he did amazingly at holding him there. Vernon might have thrown some good punches, but Roy won that fight. The next season in their first meeting both Claude Lemieux Darren McCarty went at it directly off the opening faceoff. Then later that year, 04/01/98 they had another brawl. This time it was Patrick Roy vs Chris Osgood. You should check that one out also.
I was there it happened right in front of us. You couldn't hear the person next to you it was so loud. I will never forget it. It was Claude Lemeuix with a dirty hit on Chris Draper. You could just feel something was going to happen.
You mention you want the full back story. I suggest that you watch & react to "How one violent hit snowballed into years of championship-grade hockey". It gives you the entire story and what happened after this fight as well.
There's a great documnetary on ESPN+ about this rivalry called "Unrivaled." Its a great watch.
This Red Wings and Avalanche rivalry is easily the best and most heated hockey rivalry of all time, they legit did not like each other back in the day
It was from this night that Claude Lemieux earned the nickname "The Turtle" . He had no problem cheap shotting a guy from behind and doing serious damge but when it came time to answer for what he had done he just curled up into a ball ....too afraid to fight.
subbed man , good work .. Flint Michigan here..peace
March 26, 1997! One of greatest nights in Detroit sports history and I was there!
This was prime NHL. Being a Wings fan in the 90s was fucking amazing.
march 26, 1997. i was there my bday was day before my grandfather took me and my twin bro to this game. was our first nhl game we just turned 14 and it was a great game to be there. we were in second row right next to redwings bench. hockeytown usa
Welcome to hockey and hockey town. Fan base rule #1 learn the history! When equipment is all over the ice like this, it’s called a garage sale
This is what happens if you break into someone's house in Canada hockey fight on and the hockey stick by the door is swinging if needed😂😂😂
This definitely was one of the best. If you want to see some awesome fights, watch Bob Probert and Joe Kocer when they played for the wings
Gotta look into the goals amd saves too. Those are still amazing. I play hockey. Have for 20 years now. Its so much fun. We dont hit anymore but those were the days
Greatest hockey rivalry ever!!
While this was epic, and the culmination of a multi season rivalry, there was one earlier that was bigger, took place between the Montreal Canadiens and Quebec Nordiques during game 6 of the second round of the Stanly Cup playoffs. The 2 cities have always had a major competitive dislike for each other, and the 2 teams took it to a whole other level, they were divisional rivals who played each other multiple times per year, and met in the playoffs often. There is a 13 min video on CZcams titled Nordiques vs Canadiens Apr 20, 1984 Good Friday Game.
This is one of the best rivalries in all sports. These two teams HATED each other. multiple Stanley Cups were won by these teams during this rivalry. Every game was intense. It all started with Patrick Roy getting embarassed one night and telling his team own, he'll never play a game for that team again.
Chris and Darren were and still are close friends. Darren had to wait 4 games against the AVs to get his revenge adding fuel to his rage. I love the Wings but have great respect for the AVs. Their games were great hockey.
Darrin Mcarty is the epitome of a true Grind Liner. Mcarty, Draper, and Maltby destroying the top lines of the other team and still produce.
1990s Red Wings-Avalanche... that is all that needs to be said
Claude Lemieux, the player who McCarty hammered, was one the most hated and dirtiest players in the NHL. The previous year, during a playoff game against the Red Wings, he dished out a dirty hit from behind on Chris Draper. He sent him face first into the boards and caused him to break his jaw, cheekbone, and orbital socket. Draper had to have reconstructive surgery and had his jaw wired shut for several weeks. Red Wing fans refer to this as "Fight Night at the Joe".
If you want to understand an enforcer's life. Look at Bob Probert's greatest hits or fights. He was part of a dou labeled "The Bruise Brothers"
Watch "The Russian Five" documentary. Yes, it does primarily focus on Detroit's Five Russians, but THE BRAWL gets up close and high definition. LOVE the Red Wings' players commentaries, especially McCarty.
Darren McCarty, after what seemed like hours in the box, actually scored the goal that won the game.
This was only one fight of many in this game. A channel called Secret Base does a great job breaking down the history of this rivalry.
If you like watching team brawls another great one is called Punch Up in Piestany between the Canadian and Russian Junior teams at the world championship. Went on so long they tried to stop it by turning out the lights in the stadium. Huge rivalry between Canada and Russia in hockey for decades.
4 of the players in the Punch-Up also played in the Brawl (Shanahan, Fedorov, Konstantinov, and Keane).
There are lots of other videos about this. Some have more backstory, some show more of the whole game overall as there was several smaller things throughout the game leading up to this, as where some more small AFTER this also. The actual hockey part was equally as intense. It was a great time to be a Red Wings fan
I remember this game. It was Epic. I had no idea McCarty had that kinda scrap in him.
Lemieux was the ultimate instigator/cheap shot artist. Every team hated him. I still remember these years. This was what everybody needed to see happen. It was only a matter of time
Guys who play dirty and then turtle like Lemieux when he has to answer for it should get an extra 2 mins. It’s beyond pathetic to do that when you know you’ve been causing problems for years.
Claude was a cheap shot artist. It’s because of guys like him that fighting is an essential part of hockey. Someone takes a cheap shot at one of your guys, you don’t retaliate with another cheap shot…the refs are specifically looking for it. You send one of your goons to smash the guy who laid the cheap hit and both of them go to the box.
Draper got hit in the back and his face hit the boards and He suffered a broken orbital bone, a broken cheekbone, a broken nose, a broken jaw and a concussion.
You need to watch SB Nations video on the Wings-Avs rivalry to know the backstory. Believe, Lemieux deserved every knee to the face he got!
This night was also huge because it's when everything galvanized for Detroit. They would go on to win 3 Stanley Cups over the next 6 years.
Best rivalry in sports history...
There was also a follow up fight between McCarty and Lemeaux
You should watch the 10 man fight that happened a few nights ago between the New York rangers and New Jersey devils. As soon as puck was dropped all guys on ice start fighting.
Claude Lemieux was taking a lot of heat from people for "turtling". A couple games later he and McCarty fought again. You could see the two of them talking before the puck dropped. McCarty was giving Lemieux a chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans. He didn't turtle on their second fight and nobody was thinking of him as a coward anymore. A very classy move on McCarty's part. Losing a fight is fine, but being thought of as a coward is too much and NOBODY deserves that.
Claude Lemieux, whom Darren McCarty sent into another dimension, was one of the biggest scumbags in hockey. He was known as The Turtle bc he always curled up on the ground to avoid punches. In the playoffs from the previous year, he hit Kris Draper from behind, face first into the top of the boards (face into corner where players hop over onto the ice/bench), shattering many bones in his face. He never apologized, and the Red Wings enforcer, Darren McCarty, finally got payback over 300 days since the incident. Then went on to score the winning goal in OT. D Mac is a legend in Detroit.
The Red Wings-Avalance rivalry in the mid 90's is infamous, and those teams, combined, won 5 Stanley cups in the span of 7 years - Avalanche with 3, Wings with 2.
Back in the day teams had “enforcers” to protect the star players. McCarty was ours! I was the right age that I watched all these rivalry games, but this one…. “The game”. If memory serves McCarty also scored the game winning goal in this game!
This is why Darren McCarty will never have to pay for a drink in Detroit.
love the hockey vids
If you want to see a quick explanation of this, react to Beef Explained Av’s vs Red Wings. This wasn’t the only time this happened between the 2 teams. This was just the first time. E:60 just released a whole documentary about it last year I think. Also a very good watch
Old school hockey. The best
Lemieux previously broke Drappers face with a dirty hit from behind.
Hence you previously viewed video of "the code". They didnt forget. They were waiting for payback.
The whole thing started after Igor Larionov smashed Adam Foote's face on the glass and the refs "let them play".
I remember watching this when i was a kid.. you just got another subscriber bruh
Back in the day when this happened these two teams truly hated each other
Lemieux the winner a a top line talent , an agitator had speed ,size, tough, avg. fighter. great shot and multiple Stanley cups . He still loos the same other than gray hair a successful agent still filthy rich.
Roy when discussing his fight with Osgood said that Vernon won that fight with him so he wanted a rematch with another wings goalie
Check out the video called "bob probert career highlights 1985 - 2002" video if u wanna see what the wild wild west of hockey was. He was the BOSS, he beat up everyone. When he was retired he was jailed for beating up cops. This guy had no breaks, check him out if u wanna see how wild hockey used to be. Complete maddness.
He was team mates with McCartey. He made McCartey look like a kindergarten teacher.
Probert was a legend and a was as scary as they came
You think McCarty threw down(which he did) you need to check out Bob Probert’s best fight, that guy was a fighting machine that could skate and score. Damn that was fun hockey.
Check out the full out brawl between Canada and Russia in Russia at the World Junior Championships. Absolute mayhem.
the only way to escape your punishment is to retire because hockey players never forget.
this was just one chunk of fights for that night.