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At the time it was the most expensive movie ever made.
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Since you're doing movies no one else is reacting to, you need to try Gettysburg (1993). Also 13 Hours.
I have been waiting literally years to watch someone react to this. Everyone does Saving Private Ryan, no one does this. Thank You!
You are most welcome Karlmoles65 😊. I told you I will be watching it right? I have a 3 hour uncut version on my patreon which is far better than this.
Unfortunately, I can already tell by the view count, that this isn't going to get many clicks or views on CZcams. Seems a very select crowd are interested in these amazing old movies. Modern audiences don't even click the video to see what the movie is! They only watch they same thing over and over, which is very bizarre to me. 🤷♀️
@@HonestMovieReactions 5 1/2 thousand isn't too bad. 🙂👍
Oh it's alright, but my Saving Private Ryan video for example had this in only a few hours! People seem to watch the same movies over and over
Probably because this is mainly about the British army not the Americans
I honestly wish I had a much bigger UK audience. 90% of my audience is from USA. Nothing wrong with that, but I would like to have viewers from around the world!
Best thing to me about this movie is: English speaking British English, Americans speaking American-English, Dutch speaking Dutch (and German sometimes) and Germans speaking German. This is so rare in modern day movies and makes this extra special.
Very true
I am a British Army Veteran. Served for 20 plus years. I was an extra in this film. Did some of the Para drops. Filled my quota during this film. Seen in the attack on the bridge I was declared as dead, But, many years on still going strong. "73" this year,
Wow that's amazing my dear. Glad you got the chance to take part in this epic movie and I'm glad you are still going strong 😊
I live in Oosterbeek, where much of the fighting took place. Men were fighting around our street. The Airborne Museum is just down the road from us, and every year Oosterbeek hosts the world's biggest one day walk called the Airborne Wandeltocht.
Wow! I would love to visit some day!
One of the things I loved about Edward Fox's performance as Gen. Horrocks is that he's shown addressing the troops with great elan to bolster their morale but quietly going over his worries and concerns with his officers showing that he understands the real difficulty and danger of what they're doing.
The real Gen. John Frost (the character Anthony Hopkins plays) was one of the military advisors for the movie, and he disliked of how Antony Hopkins played the scene in which he runs across the street and gets wounded. Like American Col. Danny McBride at the Battle of Mogadishu, many British officers consciously resist the natural tendency to flinch or show fear under fire (a long tradition explained in the Lindybeige channel's video "British Officers Don't Duck"). It's a combination of the "a bullet either has your name on it or it doesn't" fatalism and an understanding of the psychological effects that officers' behavior and comportment has on their troops. It's perhaps best summarized by Gen. Thomas Pakenham who said "Don't bother ducking, the men don't like it and it doesn't do any good" before being killed at the Battle of Gallipoli. However, director Richard Attenborough kept the scene with Hopkins ducking and flinching because he felt audiences wouldn't believe it if he didn't.
In regard to the men who died of their wounds while in captivity, British paratroopers who had been taken prisoner at Arnhem said that the Germans did the best they could to care for wounded prisoners but didn't have the resources to even adequately care for their own wounded. Thus a lot of men died due to an inability to save them, not due to malice.
Very interesting comment indeed my dear Waterbeauty85 👍
At Arnhem, the Germans even helped remove British wounded from the building being used as their main medical station. The building was burning and collapsed shortly after the last man was brought out.
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What an amazing cast of characters. I really love that they show the actual planning of the operation and the 'politics' etc. So few war movies show that aspect.
Yes I also really enjoyed watching all the planning before the actual battle and operations. It really adds context to the whole thing.
Very true
Ike: Countdown to D-Day is almost exclusively about the last week before the invasion of Normandy. It does a great job of showing the incredible burden on General Eisenhower's shoulders, having to deal with difficult leaders and Generals (Churchill, Degaulle, Patton, and Montgomery), the uncertainties of weather, and the terrifying thought of failure causing so many deaths of young men.
While Tom Selleck -who plays Eisenhower - looks nothing like he did, he does an admirable job portraying Ike's calm, patient demeanor while also portraying the effects of stress he was feeling. Worth considering on your Patreon poll in the future.
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The film leaves out the biggest planning culprits. General Brereton of the First Allied Airborne Army, General Williams of the USAAF and Air Vice Marshall Hollinghurst of the RAF.
These three made the big decisions that doomed the operation. None are featured in the film. Instead Browning on screen and Montgomery off screen become the villains of the planning disaster, when that wasn't true at all.
Montgomery argued for double drops on day one and closer drop zones, but Brereton, Williams and Hollinghurst overruled him.
Got to love that guy for forcing the doctor to save the soldier. He has balls of steel!
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And I love how the doctor handled it.
The Germans were asking for the British to surrender, but the British commander pretended that the Germans were offering to surrender themselves.
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As I watch this, I am in awe! There is NO CGI at all in this due to the age of the movie! They really dropped hundreds of guys in parachutes to make this movie!?!? 😲😲😲
Yes it is truly amazing to behold. 👍
Effects were always so much better and creative in the past
It is unbelievable how they made movies back then. Today it's just some graphics.
Yeah. My father took part in the filming of the british airborne drops being a para himself. He attested to the realism of the situational chaos. Great film
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Such an ensemble cast:
Sean Connery
Michael Caine
Robert Redford
Ryan O'Neal
Anthony Hopkins
James Caan
Laurence Olivier
Edward Fox
Dirk Bogarde
Gene Hackman
Hardy Kruger
Elliott Gould
Maximilian Schell
Denholm Elliot
Alun Armstrong.
Indeed! Sadly since I am not familiar with Western movies in general or pop culture, I didn't know all of them! But, I really loved their performances! 😊
Yes the cast in this is phenomenal!
@@HonestMovieReactions Most of the names on that list were major stars at the time. This is one of the most star-studded casts in a movie ever.
😊👍 I am sure as I watch more and more movies in the future, I will recognize them and understand what made them great actors.
In real life, Gene Hackman's character, Gen. Stanislaw Sosabowski was shamefully mistreated after the failure of Operation Market Garden. Field Marshal Montgomery sent Gen. Sosabowski a letter describing the Polish soldiers as having fought bravely and offering awards to ten of his soldiers, but Montgomery also sent another letter to the British commanders in which he said that Sosabowski and his brigade "performed very badly here and the men showed no keenness to fight if it meant risking their own lives. I do not want this brigade here again and possibly you may like to send it to join the other Poles in Italy." Montgomery further stated "If the operation had been properly backed..., it would have succeeded in spite of my mistakes, or the adverse weather, or the presence of the 2nd SS Panzer Corps in the Arhem area" insisting that his plan should have succeeded regardless all the unexpected setbacks if only everybody else had performed their roles adequately, thereby shifting the blame to others. In 2012 (the 120th anniversary of Sosabowki's birth) the Polish Senate appealed to the U.K.'s government to clear Sosabowski's name of the allegations made against him. Poland's former Minister of Defense, Senator Bogdan Klich, said “We expect British authorities to publicly restore the good name of General Sosabowski.” As of 2021, the U.K. has still not done so. Similarly, the Dutch Department of Defense denied a 1961 appeal for the Polish paratroopers to be honored and wrote "This is a political matter, not a military one." However, in 2006, after learning (from Geertjan Lassche's documentary "De Vergeten Pole in de slag om Arnhem" aka "The Forgotten Poles at the Battle of Arnhem" aka "God Bless Montgomery") how maligned and unappreciated the contributions of Sosabowski and his brigade to the liberation of Holland had been, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, awarded the Military William Order (the country's oldest and highest decoration) to the Brigade and the Bronze Lion (for extreme bravery and leadership in battle favoring The Netherlands) posthumously to Gen. Sosabowski.
Stop repeating the myth.
The FACT is, General Browning was out of the paras before Sosabowski was.
Oh?
Yes, Browning was got rid of and was sent to Burma in a secondary admin role before the end of 1944. A big come down.
Neither Browning or Montgomery said the operation failed because of the Poles. Both said tough German resistance was the biggest factor, the weather, lack of preparation and resources (especially transport planes). Browning specifically fingered the non arrival of the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment on the 19th while Montgomery even cited his own mistakes, even though he didn't have much to do with it. Montgomery never blamed Brereton, Williams and Hollinghurst even though he could have.
Browning did not like Sosabowski, its true. Nor did a lot of allied commanders including Horrocks. By all accounts Sosabowski was argumentative and uncooperative and he was miffed his brigade was utilised in First Allied Airborne Army instead of being independent and deployed to Poland.
Browning offered Sosabowski to expand his brigade into a full division, supplemented with British troops, but Sosabowski wanted it all Polish and he rejected Browning's offer.
Browning preferred a younger and more flexible Pole in charge and he had two in mind instead of Sosabowski.
But as it turned out both Browning and Sosabowski were gone by 1945.
37:11 There's a line from a deleted scene in the 1993 movie "Gettysburg" in which one of the Union Generals says that he dislikes politicians because they're "Too fat, and they talk too much, and they never think twice about asking another man to die for them."
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One of the few 70s movies that you have seen so far Che so it stands to reason that you are not familiar with actors but like others have said, this is a very impressive cast. Terrific reaction Che! 🤗👏👏👏👏
Thank you dear Robin. I am glad you got a chance to enjoy the 3 hour version on Patreon too.
Unfortunately it seems these movies aren't so popular on CZcams, as you can see from the abysmal view count! 😂
This film is based on my favourite book by Cornelius Ryan, an Irish journalist working for London newspaper, The Daily Telegraph, as a war correspondent. He was part of the press pack following the key generals like Montgomery and Patton around Europe. After the war he became an American citizen and wrote three books - The Longest Day about D-Day, and also made into a film in 1962, The Last Battle about the fall of Berlin, and A Bridge Too Far. Ryan knew he was dying of cancer and rushed his last book into publication unfinished in 1974.
It ends rather abruptly with the withdrawal of the British 1st Airborne Division, marking the end of the Airborne operation 'Market' on 26th September, but the ground operation 'Garden' went on for another 12 days, until Montgomery gave up trying to force a crossing of the Dutch River Rijn at Arnhem and ordered the bridge to be bombed by the air forces to prevent the Germans using it. The Rhine crossing was finally made further upstream in Germany after the Winter season in 1945.
The film was directed by British director Richard Attenborough, who wanted to make an "anti-war film", and I think your reaction was exactly what he wanted. The film is also very entertaining, with a script written by William Goldman, who had previously written the hugely popular western Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid (1969). It even has Robert Redford, The Sundance Kid, in a key role in this film, although his virtual single-handed capture of the Nijmegen bridge is one of a number of fictional episodes in the script.
Because Market Garden failed to shorten the war as planned, it was perceived as a British failure, and a great deal of mythology was created in large part because of the bias in this Hollywood financed film, with the American characters heroically trying to salvage a hopeless British disaster. The American producer, Joseph E. Levine was quoted as saying "I pay to make entertainment, not history". The reason the operation failed was because the Nijmegen bridge was not secured on the first afternoon as planned - a fact which is not made explicit in the book or the film, but can only be deduced by the absence of information contained in Cornelius Ryan's files, but not published until recently.
Oh? Very interesting comment my dear Dave 😊👍
@@HonestMovieReactions - Thank you. I've only been studying the battle for 45 years! It's a very deep rabbit hole...
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Great Film! I enjoy historically accurate WWII movies. The unit I served in while in the U.S. Army, drove across France to Luxembourg during the time period this movie covered. I was stationed in W.Germany from 1986 - 1989 and I was able to see a lot of the historical sights while I was there and spoke to people who still remembered. It sparked my interest in WWII history. Great reactions and good one to watch Che 👍
Wow! That's really interesting my friend 👍. Glad you got to see those things.
This film is quite inaccurate in places though, sadly.
I have a surprise video launching in a couple of hours about this very topic! I was recommended to watch a certain video by my patreon members. So I watched a CZcamsr and I am reacting to that. Very interesting indeed. Hope to see you there Lyndon and you can share your own thoughts too 😊
This is one of my favourite films of this genre, with some fantastic quotes. Much of the action with very true to life but also many scenes were hammed up for the movie. As a Royal Engineer Officer my heart always swells with pride at the building of the Bailey Bridge, but there is no way the character played by Elliot Gould would have been allowed anywhere near the bridge whilst it was being constructed. We build our bridges in silence, no screaming and shouting and running around.
My father-in- law dropped into Arnhem as a RAMC Medical Officer with the Border Regiment. He was captured when the British Airbourne Division surrendered and was put to work in a German hospital. Later he escaped and linked up with the Dutch Underground, being brought back across the Rhine by the SAS. Truly boys own stuff.
Glad you enjoyed the video and the movie my dear 👍
@@HonestMovieReactions please react to the great escape 1963.
Awesome military links. If you're not already aware of them, there are a series of books (booklets, really) by John Sliz on all the engineer units used in Market Garden. The volume on the Guards Armoured Division engineers is called Bridging The Club Route. Not only was Elliot Gould playing a fictional character, loosely based on 506th Regiment commander Colonel Sink, but the 506th had gone south to take Eindhoven before the bridge was built. The Bailey bridge construction was assisted by American engineers from 'C' Company, 326th Airborne Engineer Battalion, and some German prisoners. The Americans had earlier distinguished themselves by raiding a local lumber yard and constructing a narrow foot bridge over the canal, using the original swing bridge centre pier, in order to get the 506th over the canal.
You would appreciate this passage:
According to a Household Cavalry Regiment historian, "it is said that the German prisoners working for the sappers became so infected by the urgency of their task that one inquisitive Gunner officer who came to see how things [were] progressing was bluntly told in English to move out of the way as he was hindering operations!"
John Sliz also points out that far from the Son bridge putting the operation "36 hours behind skeduuule" as stated by Elliot Gould, XXX Corps reached the bridge site at dusk, with the Bailey equipment arriving almost immediately afterwards. The bridge was constructed in just 15 minutes over the estimated 10 hours, and at dawn the XXX Corps advance was resumed. But Sliz argues that since British doctrine at the time was not to operate tanks at night, the delay was effectively zero. The operation did not fall behind schedule until after the tanks arrived at Nijmegen, to find the Americans did not have the bridges there secured. A 36-hour delay then followed while two attempts were made to take the bridges from a very strong German defensive position.
@@davemac1197 Yep, that sounds like Gunner Officers, poking their noses in and getting in the way! That for the post.
@@digitalbegley - I'm not sure if it's a comfort or a worry that some things don't seem to have changed in 80 years!
Cornelius Ryan is the writer who interviewed soldiers and civilians from all sides to get their actual experiences for his books, "A Bridge Too Far" about Operation Market Garden, and "The Longest Day" about the D-Day invasion. So the unique bits and pieces and personal stories in these movies are true to the actual history of the people involved. All those details are what people really experienced. I've read both books and they are amazing. And the movies too. The books even have information on what the survivors -- soldiers and civilians -- did after the war.
Wow! That is very interesting Ken. I am sure that really added to the authenticity of this movie 👍
Both books are well worth reading. Quite the excellent writer Ryan was.
Hello everyone. Please remember that my full length version INCLUDES the full movie (with subtitles in this case), along with my full reaction and full outro / commentary / review / analysis etc. The full length version is actually over 3 hours long! 😂
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I really liked James Caan's first scene. It starts like tough combat veteran Sgt Dohun reassuring a frightened newbie, but at end of the scene, you see the captain's bars and realize that the frightened kid is the sergeant's commanding officer. It's interesting how Dohun is the subordinate in rank but is like a big brother to the captain.
Supposedly, James Caan agreed to do the movie because the scene when Sgt. Dohun threatened to shoot the surgeon if he didn't examine the captain convinced him that he wanted to play that character. That scene is so memorable that the M.A.S.H. TV series did a homage to it in one of its episodes.
Yes it was a great scene for sure 😊
Did you know the characters were reversed to give James Caan the bigger role? Captain LeGrand "Legs" Johnson was a combat veteren and already won the Silver Star in Normandy. Sgt Dohun was his 'gofer' and messenger. People who knew them both said Johnson was 10 times the man Dohun was. So they switched the characters and made the unamed Captain "afraid of dying", but the true story was probably even more heroic because what Dohun did was above and beyond what you would expect from his character. I think (director) Richard Attenborough wanted to play on a fear of dying because he was a pacifist and was making an "anti-war" movie. That wasn't the mindset of either of these men.
Yes this movie is absolutely amazing Che! I am so glad you watched this film!
Yes I really enjoyed it! I am so amazed how they made this movie!
AWESOME! Can't wait to watch this! One of my favorite WWII movies! 👍👍👍👍
I have never seen this movie believe it or not!
Enjoy my dear
Oh really? I thought you watched it? Or only some parts?
German actor Hardy Krüger died just a few weeks ago on January 19, at the age of 93.
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Interestingly, he actually attended one of the Nazis' elite schools and was indeed assigned to an SS unit as a young boy late in the war. He was almost executed when refusing an order. After that experience, he broke with Nazis, shrugged off the indoctrination he had been submitted to and became an ardent advocate against racism and extremism throughout his life. I think two of his children (definitely his son, Hardy Krüger Jr.) grew up in Africa, were he lived many years after shooting "Hatari!"
Given his looks, international directors loved casting him as a Nazi officer - I wonder how it felt for him to don an SS uniform again for the movie.
Wow. Very interesting 👍
He starred in an excellent black & white movie called "The One That Got Away" about one of the very few German prisoners who managed to escape from a UK POW camp.
Good film.The character it was based on did get back to Germany,back in the fight - and was killed 2 yrs later.Quite pointless,really@@richardwest6358
Someone might've already mentioned, but the young paratrooper, listed as Private "Ginger' Marsh, was based on a real paratrooper, who as in the film, tried to bring back a canister of supplies. He was shot, but was wounded, and he did survive.
So the character who brings General Browning the photographs of the tanks is based on a real historical figure named Brian Urquhart, no relation to Major General Roy Urquhart. Though he was certain not timid and afraid as he is shown to be in the film, he was very vocal about his opposition to Operation Market Garden. And he wasn't sent home, he requested to be transferred to another brigade within the British army as he wanted to distance himself from the operation as much as possible since he wasn't able to stop it.
Ah I see.
Btw, I do not think I have seen you comment on my videos before. Are you new? If you are new, I hope you subscribe and watch all my videos and share your thoughts and feelings in the comments 😊.
The episode regarding the aerial photograph has an interesting epilogue dating from as recently as 2015. That's when the Dutch Government digitised their archives and all the RAF photographs donated to the Dutch after the war to help with reconstruction came to light. The photo frame in question was identified (Frame 4015, taken on 12 September by a 541 Squadron Spitfire from RAF Benson) was an aerial taken at altitude (not oblique as shown in the movie - oblique photos are only taken of fixed targets, not searching for tanks in miles of woodlands).
Analysis undertaken by the RAF's Air Historical Branch identifies the tanks as older Mark III and early Mark IV (short barrelled gun) tanks, ruling out a Panzer Division as the owner. The only unit operating old tanks like these in Holland was the Hermann Göring Training Regiment. It's tanks were being sent south to fight the British Guards Armoured Division in Belgium, and the photo had caught them near Deelen airfield being resupplied from a dump hidden in the Deelerwoud. Many of the tanks broke down on their way to Belgium, and those that completed the journey were all destroyed by the Guards Division. The survivors were laagered at Wolfswinkel, near Son and the 101st Airborne Divison landing zones, and were shot up by escorting American aircraft during the landings on 17 September.
Browning is therefore fully exonerated from one of the most controversial episodes of Market Garden, as his assessment that the tanks were obsolete and not fully serviceable were borne out by the facts. The book and the movie of A Bridge Too Far were published after Browning had passed, and his character in that scene was played by Dirk Bogarde as a man who had been embarrassed by possible evidence the plan was reckless. This is now clearly a false narrative. Sebastian Ritchie's RAF study of the photo frame can be found online in a free to download pdf booklet by searching "arnhem the air reconnaissance story royal air force", courtesy of the British taxpayer!
Your comments about Brian Urquhart's character also being misrepresented in the film are, I believe, correct. He was very concerned about the Dutch underground reports of German units in the Arnhem area, but these could not be verified by other sources. The latest assessment on II.SS-Panzerkorps before the operation was that it was badly degraded after the Normandy battles, refitting somewhere in eastern Netherlands, and presumed to be drawing new tanks from a depot thought to be in the Cleve area (SHAEF Intel Summary #26 dated 16 September). It was therefore thought to be more of a possible threat to the 82nd Division at Nijmegen and actually started a silly rumour that there could be up to "1000 tanks hiding in the Reichswald" forest between Cleve and Nijmegen.
I had a friend who had joined the British army in the late 1960s. His dad was one of the First Para soldiers captured at Arnhem Bridge. He told me that none of the First Para veterans had any love lost for Monty...
My grandfather was here, in this part of the war, he was in te air bourne division, which is now the parachute regiment, I have also seen the replica of the view from the little room that overlooks the bridge many years ago in aldershot, when visiting my brother, who was also in the parachute regiment. my grandfather until his death, went back every year to pay his respects, and my brother has carried that tradition on
It's just passed 2pm here in Spain. I had my lunch... and now it's time to enjoy this! hahah. I watched your full length version on Patreon yesterday and it was awesome as always Che, but I enjoy watching your edited YT versions too haha
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The parachute drops for this movie used 11 Dakota transport aircraft and 1,000 parachutists. Most of the tanks and vehicles were obtained from the armies of Greece and Turkey, as they were being taken out of service.
Film critics praised the movie for its' accuracy but many veterans who survived the operation were much less impressed.
Well it is an amazing spectacle for sure
I love the laugh 'Che', this movie is breathtaking in terms of the realisim-thanks
Yes it is indeed breathtaking as a feat of movie making!
I have been to the river Wall where Robert Redford portrayed Major Cook when they crossed it in webbing and wood boats. He had a mate of his have his head blown off next to him and he was covered in his blood. Miichael Caine was a Korean veteran also and alot of the cast were war veterans too. This film was so damn good because it shows the wounded you dont get shot and instantly die, there is a 3 to 1 of wounded and KIA. The film didn't get the respect it deserved because it was relaesd at the same time Star Wars came out.
Always liked this movie since I first saw it as a kid. "How do we recreate the largest airdrop in history?" "Uh, how about with hundreds of planes and thousands of extras jumping out of them?" "Let's make this movie!"
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THANK YOU FOR WATCHING A VERSION WITH SUBTITLES! I saw some of this movie a while ago, but stopped because I could not understand what the Germans were saying in their scenes! 👍👍👍
You are most welcome my friend. Glad you can finally watch a version you can understand fully now 😊. My full length version on Patreon also has all the subtitles.
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I like that there is almost no background music in these older films.
That is actually a very interesting point Chairman Asheth. Now that you mention it, I felt like Hacksaw Ridge (which is the most modern war movie I watched), had endless huge background music to it, to really play off people's emotions.
It's amazing when you think about it, how young the soldiers were. Well... soldiers in almost any kind of war. My dad crewed on a B-17 during the war. He was 18 years old when he went in and 20 when he came out.
Yes indeed dear Rob. It is tragic. Even my own husband was in the army when he was 18. While this movie is tragic as well, when I watched Saving Private Ryan, I cried straight for 3 hours, since I thought about all the young men dying and suffering.
There’s a saying along the lines of ‘old men start wars young men die in them’
This movie is a gem that needs to be rediscovered. The fact that this movie has no CGI makes it feel real and honest. Furthermore, it makes that new Napoleon look and feel like garbage, in comparison.
If you found this interesting I suggest you watch Jeremy Clarkson's The Victoria Cross: For Valour... It's about this very action...A most brillient piece of documenting...featuring the men who were really there.
😊👍 Well I did watch a History Buffs video on this.
The Clarkson documentary is exceptional - breathtaking and emotional
The thing about the photographs of the German tank division re-equipping right next to the target of Arnhem: Montgomery and the other leaders of this army all knew exactly how good the aircraft, their photography, it's interpretation and the information derived from it was.
It had supplied them with accurate maps and appreciations of enemy units and their locations from the beaches of Normandy all the way to the Dutch and German borders.
This time, it was a time that the senior men decided to ignore what they were told and blame the men who gathered the information, instead of changing the road they were attacking along.
They could have attacked parallel, south of the Nijmegen-Arnhem road, closer to the border with Germany at Goch, Wiese and the airfield at Laarbruch.
This was an area they had to fight through afterwards anyway, and it had the benefit of being better supplied with small roads to sneak down, woods to hide in, and less battle-ready German tank divisions.
This film is based upon one book by one historian, who did not include inconvenient details such as how Montgomery had been promoted beyond his competence, how the Allied Armies were not being supplied as well as their commitments required, and were losing infantrymen at an unsustainable rate, usually due to badly-planned attacks that ignored all the lessons learnt in previous battles.
Hell of a movie, but less interesting than Operation VARSITY a few months later, which was and remains the largest airborne attack in history, and was entirely successful in crossing the Rhine river at several places, breaking into Germany and achieving everything Market-Garden failed to.
It is usually ignored in preference to the few US troops taking a bridge over the Rhine at Remagen a few days earlier, which later collapsed.
The city my family came from, Deventer, was used as the location for Arnhem, since Arnhem had so much damage it looked unlike how it did in 1944. When I was walking around Deventer, I kept getting flashes of deja vu---I was walking down streets used in the filming.
I love the respect that German officer shows Hannibal Lecter and his men! 😂
Oh? Who is Hannibal Lecter?
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@@HonestMovieReactions Oh you are so cute Che
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A masterpiece. Saw it 40 years ago for the first time, and many more since. Thank you Che for sharing your reactions.
You are most welcome my friend. I loved this movie.
I don't like how this movie portrays Browning. He was right. The German divisions around Arnhem were skeleton forces and not battle ready. Of the two SS Panzer divisions in the area, one had sent most of its tanks to Germany for major repairs and upgrades, and turned over what few were left to the other division, which, had less than ten working units, even with those. What the Germans did have was an excellent rail system and efficient emergency reinforcement system. Almost all the troops the British would face in the coming days were reinforcements arriving by "blitz transport". Before D-Day, the allies made sure those German rail lines were not working. Sadly, after Normandy they neglected this vital aspect and the rails were quickly repaired. A mistake that would cost them this battle.
I really enjoyed this movie. It was an amazing spectacle to behold, but as you also mentioned, some other in the comments pointed out many historical inaccuracies or portrayals.
I Commend most of this. Browning's portrayal was more like a character assassination. The two SS-Panzer-Divisions near Arnhem were reduced to regimental battlegroups, about 3,000 and 3,500 troops, mostly support and logistics staff. The 9.SS Division were being withdraw to Germany and had left only a few 'alarm' companies in Holland, mostly tank and artillery crews without tanks or guns. They had handed over their serviceable heavy equipment to the 10.SS DIvision, who had to send what combat effective units they had to the Belgian border to face the British 2nd Army.
The 9.SS did have five tanks they had 'saved', probably by listing them as in repair. Three Mark V Panther tanks, probably command vehicles that were difficult to replace, were kept off the books, and two Flakpanzer IV 'Möbelwagen' with 3.7cm anti-aircraft guns. Two of the three Panthers were disposed of by British paratroopers dropping 'Gammon bombs' out of upper floor windows in western Arnhem, the third one survived to harass the Divisional perimeter in Oosterbeek throught the siege. The two Möbelwagen were used to deadly effect against 4th Parachute Brigade, preventing them from reaching their objective. The 9.SS recon battalion had also saved about 40 armoured cars and half-track vehicles by removing guns and tracks, listing them as under repair. They were being loaded onto train flat cars at Beekbergen for transport to Germany when the Airborne landings began, and they were hurriedly off-loaded and had their arment and tracks refitted. They were observed by Frost's battalion crossing the Arnhem bridge, heading south, and arrived in Nijmegen to secure the bridges there before American paratroopers could.
The Dutch resistance had been asked to organise a national rail strike on 17 September, although they were not told it was to coincide with an Airborne operation. This meant the Germans had to run their own trains, if they could, but for the most part their reinforcements had to offload at railheads like Bocholt in Germany, although some reached Zevenaar in the Netherlands to offload tanks and other vehicles. As it was, the Germans did suffer severe difficulties. Of the 14 Tiger I tanks in Panzer Kompanie 'Hummel', all but two broke down on the long road march from the railhead to Arnhem. By the time the whole company was reassembled, the battle for the bridge was over.
Really enjoyed your reaction. I think like all of us, you understand the vanity of the Field Marshalls on both sides, often at the expense of recklessness, in terms of the soldiers under them. Montgomery was determined to be the most important player post D Day. Walter Model, the German, was egotistical and, in a brilliant scene where he thinks the whole plan is to capture him, deluded and paranoid. The key I think, is that the British dismissed the German build up at Arnhem. The bluster, hubris, and over confidence was a real factor. At this point the Allies were used to winning, they thought it'd be over soon. They also committed to a schedule that did not allow for any real delays. Two SS armoured divisions (soldiers, but especially tanks and vehicles), although badly mauled in earlier battles, were regrouping nearby. Combined, they were a dangerous threat to lightly armed Paratroopers, who despite being remarkable soldiers, should not have to face tanks and a fanatically aggressive opposition.
Glad you enjoyed the video my dear. If you look through the comment section, there seems to be quite the debate amongst the crowd on who's fault all of this was.
An earlier b&w film made in 1946 on location among the real ruins etc, called 'Theirs is the Glory' depicts the Arnhem battle very accurately as the cast are the actual soldiers that were there.
I will look for that!
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Iv studied this war for almost 14 years.
I have seen what feels Ike every ww2 movie,
This is probably my favorite ww2 film.
Glad you enjoyed the movie Steve. I definitely did. May be you would be interesting in my other video about this movie from History Buffs, because he goes into the real history etc
@@HonestMovieReactions I would. It was very nice seeing someone react to history.
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I respect how they portray the German side realistically rather than comically evil, even though it would have been easy to do so with Runstedt. He was what the Germans called a junker, basically landed nobility from the old Kingdom of Prussian who even Hitler disliked intensely as evidenced by his quote in the movie Downfall: "you spend years at a military academy to learn how to hold a knife and fork!" Basically saying that although they are high ranking officers in the military, they're just a bunch of posh aristocrats who know nothing about war.
I like how they portrayed all sides in this movie.
I hope to watch Downfall some day too.
The Germans were portrayed very respectfully and quite correctly, but not accurately in the sense that by the end of the battle, the German troops were in just a parlous state as the Allied troops they had been fighting. Both sides had practically fought themselves to a standstill. The British Airborne at Arnhem only surrendered when they ran out ammunition, and there are accounts of Airborne soldiers being shocked at the poor condition of their opponents and their supply situation when taken back through the German lines. The general feeling was that if only they had been resupplied with more ammunition they "would have easily had this lot in the bag".
Richard Attenborough's film has been criticised by historians for the final surrender being taken by German troops in clean uniforms, looking as if they had just stepped off a parade ground. Attenborough was a pacifist, who's intention was to make an "anti-war film" showing the British operation as a futile waste of life and resources. In truth, Market Garden was defeated by the narrowest of margins, and after a huge effort by the Germans to send reinforcements, mostly part-trained recruits from all over Holland and Germany. One German regimental commander sent a train load back to Germany of 1,600 Luftwaffe ground staff from an airfield in Denmark, who had been formed into a new Fallschirmjäger (paratroop) regiment of two battalions, because they were untrained and he refused to send them all to their deaths.
The ending of this movie is just so tragic. Make me sad...
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@@HonestMovieReactions The Cliff Notes about the back story : a bold move to try to shorten the war, Unfortunately for Allies, they parachuted virtually on top of 2 Elite SS Panzer Divisions ( tank divisions ) , that were rebuilding after getting mauled in Normandy. ps: the SS were in midst of training against parachute attack when it actually happened . So, nothing good to come of Market Garden.
I really appreciate that they didn't patch some sort of "but we did win the war later" happy ending on it.
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I was a seventeen year-old when this movie came out but only really watched it a few months ago. Some scenes were really heartbreaking, particularly the one in which Robert Redford's character leads his men across the river. Not all examples of shining heroism end in victories. Thanks for reviewing this I really enjoyed your reaction.
Glad you enjoyed the video Dave 😊👍
Producer Joseph Levine financed the movie himself and put the movie in the black before filming began by selling the foreign distribution rights. Screenwriter William Goldman wrote about the production in his memoir ADVENTURES IN THE SCREEN TRADE.
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Congratulations ! You have chosen a quality movie, well presented, and a thoughtful and intelligent reaction. So much better than most reactors.
I am glad you enjoyed the video Eric J 😊. This was voted for me to watch by my patreon members. I really enjoyed this film, but as I said in another comment, unfortunately, I can already tell by the view count, that this isn't going to get many clicks or views on CZcams. Seems a very select crowd are interested in these amazing old movies. Modern audiences don't even click the video to see what the movie is! They only watch they same thing over and over, which is very bizarre to me. 🤷♀️
I have a 3 hour uncut version on my patreon which is far better than this.
Apart from the opening and closing moments, I truly enjoy this film more than Private Ryan - thank you for posting this! I've loved this film since I saw it as a kid, cut up and with commercials, on WSBK 38 out of Boston in the early 80s. One of my favorite "little" moments in all of film is when Gen. Browning is being shown the aerial photos and finally the one with the tanks goes on the screen - all you hear is the clatter as he places his cup in his saucer.
I am glad you enjoyed the video Mark 😊
The real photo, an aerial not an oblique as shown in the film, has recently come to light in the Dutch Government archives. If you search 'arnhem the air reconnaissance story royal air force' on the web you'll find a free pdf download by the RAF's Air Historical Branch that tells the whole story. It completely exonerates Browning's judgement to disregard the tanks as 'obsolete and probably unserviceable'. Bear in mind that the book was published and the film made after Browning's death, so he was not around to defend himself.
When you said "hopefuly not as sad.." I thought "oh boy. Prepare yourself"
One of my favorite war movies, my favorite part is when the British tried to take the bridge at Arnhem and the officer blew the bugle for his men to attempt to cross it.
I love this movie. Too few people know about it. And one of the best casts ever assembled.
Definitely a fantastic film
I forgot Anthony Hopkins was in this what a cast!
Yes dear Stephen. Some people kept mentioning Hannibal Lecter, so when I checked that out, I found out it was him! 😂
My favorite movie of all time. Glad to see someone reacting to it. The Brits fought well, but the stupid brass, especially Monty, refused to accept the possibility the operation might not go as planned.
I've watched this movie so long ago so I m not sure but it seems that Gene Hackman had played here Gen. Sosabowski (Sosabovski) - a Polish general who leads paratroopers. I checked him now on wiki and this general was born at 8 th of May - its the day 2WW ended in Europe (and also my birthday) - and at the same year as Tolkien - 1892.
It's a fantastic film
Fun fact: Major General Maxwell Taylor, commanding officer of the 101st US Airborne Division, later became the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs under president Kennedy in 1961. He was replaced in 1964 by General Earle Wheeler. Tayor was also a very close friend of Bobby Kennedy.
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Not only that, but Captain the Lord Peter Carrington, second in command of the tank squadron that captured the Nijmegen highway bridge, went on to become NATO Secretary General, and then Foreign Secretary in Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Government of the 1980s. He also chaired the first ever 'Bilderberg Group' meeting of key world political figures, held at the Hotel Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, giving the group it's name, and one of numerous hotels in the village outside Arnhem used by German Field Marshal Walter Model's Army Group B headquarters, before it evacuated the area on the day of the Airborne landings.
Another key figure after the war was Major Brian Urquhart, the British 1st Airborne Corps Intelligence officer who requested the additonal photo reconnaissance flight (his name was changed to "Major Fuller" in the film to avoid confusion with Major General Roy Urquhart, Sean Connery's character and no relation). After the war he joined the Civil Service and was involved in setting up the United Nations, becoming aide to the first Secretary general of the UN.
Your insight is always great. Remember the generals in their headquarters used to be the captain 's and majors that fought in earlier battles.s
Thank you Wendell. Yes good point 👍
Well done watching this movie , it's one of my favourites! Your reaction was very good especially your constructive comments. More people should see this film.
Hello James 😊. I am glad you enjoyed the video. I really enjoyed this film, but as I said in another comment, unfortunately, I can already tell by the view count, that this isn't going to get many clicks or views on CZcams. Seems a very select crowd are interested in these amazing old movies. Modern audiences don't even click the video to see what the movie is! They only watch they same thing over and over, which is very bizarre to me. 🤷♀️
I have a 3 hour uncut version on my patreon which is far better than this.
In the end credits is a special thank to Finnish Air Force whom lend planes to film this movie.
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At first the Wehrmacht didn’t believe the Allies were launching such a large invasion.
One of the biggest problems for British was they dropped their airborne on Arnhem where 2 entire SS panzer divisions were refitting.
Also the British armored column had only one road they could followed
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One of my all time favorite movies. I've not seen anyone react to it. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it Neal. 😊 If you enjoyed the video, I hope you vote in the various polls I had regarding this film in my community posts and also remember that the 3 hour long version (with no cuts etc) is over on my patreon.
I think most people don't react to it, since it doesn't get the views that something like Saving Private Ryan for example gets.
This move along with all the movies I have watched so far on my channel, were voted for on my patreon.
Excellent film…one of my favorites. This was the last of the big epic movies…gigantic cast, tons of practical, pre-CGI effects. You couldn’t make this movie today…like you said, the cost of the cast alone would be astronomical today.
Hello Chris 😊. Good to see you again. Yes this movie would be all CGI today, and I am sure the costs of making something like this now would be astronomical. Also it is clear they use real explosives in many scenes, and I am not sure whether that is allowed anymore in movie making, since I just see CGI explosions in everything now.
I really enjoyed this film, but as I said in another comment, unfortunately, I can already tell by the view count, that this isn't going to get many clicks or views on CZcams. Seems a very select crowd are interested in these amazing old movies. Modern audiences don't even click the video to see what the movie is! They only watch they same thing over and over, which is very bizarre to me. 🤷♀️
I have a 3 hour uncut version on my patreon which is far better than this.
@@HonestMovieReactions I guess I’m old enough to not really think of this movie as “old.” But yes, it’s a shame what great movies (and music, and books) people are missing out on these days because they have been so trained to only like the same old thing rehashed over and over again, hence all the remakes, reboots and sequels that seem to be the only things made these days.
Well it also explains the demographics of my current patreon members Chris. 80% are 40 - 60 years old. I also have many veterans who are my members since they love my videos and chatting with me etc.
I only have 3 or 4 members who are 30 or below 😂. I don't attract the 'young' crowd it seems.
@@HonestMovieReactions Unfortunately modern audiences especially to a certain amount demographic age range have just got lazy and all they are content with in todays world is flash bang explosions but they don't care about the other things that are so important and make something more than just all that. Obviously totally different genre to this but best example to give is Star Trek - Star Trek as in the original series of movies despite their age now, still hold even now of their depth the nuances and touches beyond all the effects and flashes etc. Yeah sure of course even amongst the original movies run some prefer 1 more to the other after all you get a franchise series going on for as long as that people are bound to have their favourites but, you put them all against what are the vacuous reboot Abrams ones and despite their age, they still hold something more meaningful.
Oh? I have never seen any Star Trek content yet. I know it is a huge franchise just like Star Wars, but people have only recommended of voted for me to watch Star Wars content so far.
What I find most perplexing is how people do not click on movie reactions to movies they do not know. For example, my Open Range video etc has so few views. There are many examples like this. People keep clicking on the same movie reactions over and over again from various channels. I don't understand this behavior because I am not like that. This is why the same movies always get the highest views. Unknown movies get nothing. This is bad, because that means content creators will never touch the more obscure awesome movies that may be out there.
Lots of love from Africa, don't stop just continue giving us the good Reactions, nice movie
Thank you Ode Bob 😊
i met one of the british para's that got out of Arnhem, in the 90's he was teaching my parents ballroom dancing
Wow! Now that is awesome!
Modern Paras in uniform find it very difficult to buy a drink for themselves in Arnhem. The paras graves are kept meticulously and supplied with fresh flowers by local schoolchildren
Best warmovie imo. This was probably the last time they made a warmovie of this magnitude and stars
A Bridge Too Far has always been one of my favourite war films, and now I know why!
It is amazing for sure Kevin 👍
I adore this film, excellent reaction :)
I agree with the pacing. Can't put my finger on what but I think somewhere in the third act as it were, the pacing was a little off. I always find myself checking how long is left only to be dragged back into it minutes later.
I highly recommend The Great Escape too, also very long, all in a German Prison Camp.
If you're eventually looking at older movies that aren't war films, I suggest Soylent Green at some point this year, because it's a Sci Fi dystopian thriller set in the long off future 2022 :D
Glad you enjoyed dear 😊
Great film. One of my faves. The cast is astonishing... so many huge stars.
I loved it for sure!
Insanity, never heard airborne described better, Gulf War, great guys.
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Good as the movie was it didn't even come close to depicting just how brutal that fight in Arnhem actually was. The book by Cornelius Ryan describes it in much more detail.
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i really like those old war movies. just like Tora Tora Tora, or The Longest Day.
Well I definitely enjoyed this one!
A lot of great movie stars in this film, and a budget of $25m. Yet the big hit in theaters that year was "Star Wars," with fewer movie stars and a $11m budget. I only bring this up because the two films are worlds apart, but could have shown in the same theater at the same time.
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My dad took me to see Star Wars in 1977. He hated it and thought it was a pile of rubbish. He loved A Bridge Too Far though. Most adults didn't care for Star Wars.
A Bridge Too Far made a profit, but wasn't a huge box office hit because it did not depict an American victory to satisfy American audiences. I remember it doing well in the UK, but Star Wars arrived later in early 1978, preceeded by all the hype of it's success in the US.
I watched this when it first came out. It was right before I went to college to study history with a focus on WWII. I was disappointed at first because the allies lost. I don't think I ever saw that.before this movie. Of course many films since have shown the US losing battles, plus what I learned in school. This movie has definitely grown on me since '77.
I really enjoyed this movie for sure Pat 😊👍. It was truly a spectacle of immense proportions. I am amazed how they even made this!
Such a tragic loss of life, this damn operation Market Garden 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
For me, all war is a tragic loss of life my dear. 😢 I wish war never happened, even though I know it is an insanely naïve thought.
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Market Garden was actually the fastest allied advance against German opposition in the entire September 1944 to February 1945 period.
The American campaigns in the Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine, Operation Queen etc were far bigger failures that same autumn. Then, of course, the Americans were in retreat in the Ardennes and had to call on Montgomery.
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At the end, they scapegoated just bout everything for why Market Garden failed except the actual reason. Time and time again, Montgomery proved himself to be a terrible tactician and his appalling casualty stats speak for themselves. His victories were achieved through overwhelming numerical superiority and he still sustained high casualty stats. Instead of shortening the war, he prolonged it and it gave the Germans a much needed boost of moral.
drivel..Monty did not plan MG; Brereton and Williams did
Great choice. One of the best World War 2 movies of all time. Should also consider The Thin Red Line.
I am glad you enjoyed R N 😊. Well it was my patreon members who chose this movie and I am glad they did, since it was amazing for sure!
Hopefully you mean teh powerful original from 1964 and not the pretentious artsy fartsy swill from the 1990s. But, with an avatar like that, I'm guessing artsy-fartsy.
@@Carandini Yes i am referring to the Academy Award Best Picture nominated , 7.6 on IMDB and 8.1 on Rotten tomatoes artsy fartsy swill that many hailed as a Terence Malick masterpiece. Hey not everyone liked it, to each their own. The 64 version gets much lower reviews but i would still like to see that version one day.
Look at the credits and see how many Big Name Movie Stars are in this film whether their American , British or German.
Ah Willard, since I am unfamiliar with Western movies until I started this channel a few months ago, most of the names are none I know. But I am sure I will get to know them as I watch and explore more movies in the future 😊
@@HonestMovieReactions Just the Brits. Sean Connery , Anthony Hopkins , Micheal Caine , Colin Farrell and Laurence Olivier .
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Field Marshall Model has a great line when the RAF squadron shows up to drop off the paratroopers, something about wishing he could hold such power in his hands. This really speaks volumes as the German army was severely disappointed with the airforce (Luftwaffe) by this point in the war, as it's commander Hermann Goering was a Hitler yes-man and so had seen defeat after humiliating defeat against the RAF.
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The line was actually spoken by General Kurt Student, a pioneer of the early war German Fallschirmjäger (paratroop) forces, and was at the time the commander of 1.Fallschirm-Armee of paratrooper training units plugging the huge gap in the German lines in Holland. The character was not depicted in the movie, so the line was given to SS-Obergruppenführer Wilhelm Bittrich played by Maximillian Schell, but it makes more sense that the paratroop commander marvelled at the huge Allied air armada. After the disastrous Crete campaign in 1941, Hitler forbade any further large scale airborne operations and the German paratroop formations, which were part of the Luftwaffe and not the army, would be used only in the ground role of light infantry.
Also, Bittrich's headquarters was in Doetinchem southeast of Arnhem, and not under the flight path of the Airborne attack. Student's headquarters was at Vught near s'Hertogenbosch, and directly under the flight path of the 82nd Airborne heading for Nijmegen.
It was Student, as an airborne commander himself, who realised the captured Market Garden plans were authentic, but failed to convince Model when he presented them to him. While the army were not convinced, Student used his Luftwaffe contacts to alert fighter squadrons to the 2nd and 3rd Lift timetables, so German fighters did appear over the landing zones and strafed anything that moved, but both lifts were delayed by bad weather in England and arrived in Holland when the fighters were back at their bases in Germany being refuelled. At this stage of the war, the depleted Luftwaffe were short of fuel, and the number of sorties they could fly were severely limited.
You really enjoyed the movie, I see how intense,. I very enjoyed this one too thanks che
You are most welcome Kennedy
The Arnhem bridge is called the John Frost bridge today.
Not so sure if they were to quote the term you called them aristocrats - but obviously amongst the top brass back then would have definitely been very upper class posh spoken. And yeah you hit the nail on the head in multiple ways of the British generals the British army hierarchy who got the planning of this so disastrously wrong not taking anywhere near enough into account the nazi resistance there would be and how would end up leaving the allied forces so bogged down. There was multiple things that went wrong all the things that didn't happen as they were meant to and the film in terms of a portrayal of WW2 operation is very accurate and true account of that particular operation the mistakes by top brass including again as the film shows General Browning...though it wasn't him alone. Of course there were acts of heroism and bravery by those who fought whatever their rank - but alas also as said the soldiers were ultimately let down by the poor planning by their superior officers who oversaw it from their allied headquarters. RIP to all the British/ other allied soldiers those mistakes and blunders cost!
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Monty was a joke, George S Patton was the Man of WW2, thank God, enjoyed your reactions very much, thank you for sharing 😊👍✌️🙏🇺🇸
Nice, to make reactions for big classics like this movie.
Hello Ken 😊. This movie was voted on my patreon and I loved it for sure 👍. I really enjoyed this film, but as I said in another comment, unfortunately, I can already tell by the view count, that this isn't going to get many clicks or views on CZcams. Seems a very select crowd are interested in these amazing old movies. Modern audiences don't even click the video to see what the movie is! They only watch they same thing over and over, which is very bizarre to me. 🤷♀️
I have a 3 hour uncut version on my patreon which is far better than this.
After the war, Montgomery was a big critic of Eisenhower. After Market Garden, Montgomery should have kept his mouth shut.
Montgomery was a critic of Eisenhower's broad front strategy DURING the European campaign, before Market Garden. After Market Garden, most British commanders politely didn't point the finger at their American allies for their failure to secure the Nijmegen bridge in the first hours of the operation. After the war, 82nd Airborne Division commander James Gavin admitted as much, and knew only hours after landing the operation was probably fatally compromised when he found out the 508th were digging in on the Groesbeek ridge instead of moving into Nijmegen toward the bridges.
Cornelius Ryan omitted the story from his book, on which the film is based, and it has since come to light in more recent books - Zig Borough's The 508th Connection (2013), 82nd Airborne historian Phil Nordyke's combat history of the 508th Regiment, Put Us Down In Hell (2012), and Swedish historian Christer Bergström's Arnhem 1944: An Epic Battle Revisited (2019), which used documents and interviews in the Cornelius Ryan Collection at Ohio State University.
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@@davemac1197 The allies had the advantage of numbers and material over the Germans. Hit them everywhere and you will eventually breakthrough somewhere (ala the Anaconda plan during the American Civil War). Market Garden was doomed because it was on a too constricted front. And the allies could have delivered a death blow at Falaise if the the British actually kept attacking.
@@kenbattor6350 - first, the Falaise pocket was already a disaster for the German 7th Army, and those that did escape were able to do so because British forces were opposed by the 9.SS-Panzer Division, holding open the mouth of the pocket. If it was so easy for the pocket to be closed, then why not by the American units from the south? I think that question answers itself.
The issue of supplies is an interesting one. The American Mulberry harbour was totally destroyed by the channel storm of 19th June, forcing the British one to be used to supply both armies. I've even heard it suggested that the Americans only installed every other bolt in assembling their Mulberry to speed up construction, and that's why it broke up under the storm conditions - I don't know if it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised. In any case, Montgomery was fully justified in claiming priority over supplies for his single thrust to Berlin, and Eisenhower's decision to maintain a broad front strategy was obviously a political one.
I think the constricted front notion about Market Garden is often exaggerated. The 'Club Route' for XXX Corps was only the main axis for their advance. There were a number of points at which there was a 'Heart Route' alternative if a bridge or bridges were lost. The flanking VII and XII Corps were also advancing along their own designated 'Diamond' and 'Spade' routes, although without the benefit of having bridges secured by Airborne forces. Market Garden involved the whole of British 2nd Army, a total of about 24 bridges were involved in the Airborne operation, so only a fraction of that was shown in the movie, and yet the operation was succeeding despite all the difficulties, until it got to Nijmegen.
Brilliant choice, might I suggest one of my top 5 movies ever (Sergeant York), number 1 until…
Well I didn't choose it my dear, since I don't know anything about Western movies till I started my channel. My patreon members chose it, along with Saving Private Ryan and Hacksaw Ridge, which I saw as well. 😊
18:15 the bridge at Son near eindhoven
unfortunately for the Dutch people the Germans took reprisals after the failure of the operation
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An amazing cast. Errors on both sides that could have changed the war. Patton would be a great WW2 movie to watch too.
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Another good film where we see an operation and carried through to its execution is Tora, Tora Tora about the attack on Pearl harbour, where it shows events from both sides
Some others have also recommended Tora Tora Tora. I hope to watch it some day too.
What a beautiful reaction to the best movie ever👍
Glad you enjoyed it Kelly K. 😊 If you enjoyed the video, I hope you vote in the various polls I had regarding this film in my community posts and also remember that the 3 hour long version (with no cuts etc) is over on my patreon.
Hi Che, long time no message! Been busy taking care of my dad and working. I've always been a bit of a history buff, particularly WW II. I happened to see you were doing A Bridge Too Far, and I had to make time to watch. This movie is based on the Non Fictional book by Cornelius Ryan by the same title. Most of the bits in the film did actually happen; like the sergeant that held a gun on the doctor to force him to save his captain's life. By and large, the movie is fairly representative to what happened before and during Market-Garden.
The rivalry and all around distaste between the British General Montgomery and the American General Patton is well known. Both were ego maniacs and both loved the limelight. The American military leaders loathed Montgomery and I'd say that some of the British weren't terribly keen about him either. Both Patton and Montgomery relentlessly pestered General Eisenhower to get the lion's share of the men and material for a great offensive that would lead to the invasion of Germany. Eisenhower's preference was to push into Germany along the entire front line, but went against his own judgement, hoping that Montgomery's could shorten the war. Unfortunately, it failed to do so.
If you decide to do another WWII film, here are some excellent selections you might put towards a Patreon poll; Ike: Countdown to D-Day (2004), Patton (1970), The Bridge on the River Kwai (fiction, 1957), The Caine Mutiny (fiction, 1954), Enemy at the Gates (2001), and Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970). There are of course other very worthy films out there, but these are either reasonably accurate historically or fictional stories that closely resemble segments of the WWII experiences.
Anyhoo Che, I hope you and your family are doing well. I have missed not being able to check in as frequently as I'd like, but hopefully it will be temporary. I have always enjoyed your reactions, insights, and the playful banter in the comments. The combination of your serious philosophical discussions and humorous musings always makes me smile. Thank you for doing this, it does make a difference in my life and many others.
Great to see you again my dear Rob 😊. Thank you for the information, and I am glad you enjoyed the video. I thoroughly enjoyed this film or sure.
Also thank you for the very sweet comment as well. I am glad if I can put a smile on your face 😊🤗💖
The Montgomery Patton thing is a myth. Or at least one sided. It was Patton who was always complaining about Montgomery and writing about him in his diary. Montgomery was not bothered about Patton and never slated him.
They were never rivals after Sicily. Patton was only a single army commander while Montgomery was an army group commander. At the time of the Battle of the Bulge, Montgomery was in command of FOUR armies. British 2nd, Canadian 1st, US 1st and US 9th.
Bradley was Montgomerys 'rival' if you like, not Patton.
Anyway, Montgomery was only interested in the war finishing as soon as possible. He even offered to serve UNDER Bradley if it meant the northern thrust be decided on instead of the broad front strategy.
By the way, Montgomerys northern thrust idea did not just involve his own British 2nd Army. His idea was a very strong and concentrated 40 division thrust in 4 armies (including two American) all sticking together, with Aachen and the Ruhr at the centre, then later moving on Berlin.
He rightly argued it was better to supply a concentrated force in the north than to supply all along the front line to near Switzerland, wasting time and men in the Lorraine, Alsace, Vosges etc.
The resources given to Market Garden were comparatively small. And not enough.
The US 1st Armys advance on Aachen and the Hurtgen Forest right after Market Garden was much lager and far better supplied. US campaigns were given priority of supplies and prominence between Market Garden and the Battle of the Bulge, and fared no better.
Further to Lyndon's comments, which I agree with, the incident involving Sgt "Eddie" Dohun holding a gun to the head of a doctor to get his Captain assessed is based on a true story, but the characters were reversed. The real Captain was LeGrand "Legs" Johnson, commander of D Company 502nd PIR. Far from being afraid, he was a combat veteren who had already won the Silver Star in Normandy. Dohun, real first name Charles, was his 'gofer' in camp and his messenger in combat, and not the big tough guy portrayed by Hollywood star James Caan. The actors should have been reversed to portray the characters more accurately.
In the real incident, Johnson had already received a less serious wound and was being loaded onto a Jeep to be evacuated when he was hit again in the head by a machine-gun bullet. He was put in the 'dead pile' at an aid station because the medical doctrine at the time was that a head wound exposing brain matter was automatically considered fatal. Dohun found him in the dead pile, and knowing Johnson had about $400 dollars on him, wanted to retrieve the money to send to Johnson's family, before the medical orderlies or grave diggers found it. While going through the pockets he noticed Johnson was still breathing, so Dohun loaded him and a number of other casualties onto a Jeep and drove them through the German held Zonsche forest to the field hospital at Zon/Son. A Major conducting triage told him to put Johnson on the dead pile but Dohun refused and pulled his pistol on the Major to get Johnson in line for the operating theatre, where the Colonel who was chief Divisional Surgeon successfully operated on him. Johnson woke up weeks later in the United States with a plate in his head and a massive headache, which inspired the Colonel's line in the script.
The best war films are those that are actually an anti war film
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One of my favourite war movies. I`ve seen it for the first time in 1987. The cast is mindblowing. I have never seen so many world stars in one movie. By the way, you are very pretty.
Oh? Thank you my dear 😊. I see you are new to the channel right? Well I hope you subscribe and watch all my videos and share your thoughts and feelings in the comments 😊.
I assume you are German? I also have a few German patreon members who I talk to there as well. All lovely people.
@@HonestMovieReactions Yes, I`m german, and if I had to guess I would say you are from India, or am I completely wrong? I can recommend a movie that you absolutely must see and that is "Speed" (1994) with Keanu Reeves. Simply cool!
Ah, I am not Indian in fact 😉. It's a big mystery on CZcams. I actually have a 1 hour documentary style video on my patreon all about me and my life etc. I will do a 'reveal' type video for CZcams as well, once my channel is much larger some day 🤞
as far as war movies go this wasn't actually half bad the action seemed real and it wasn't so intense to where you couldn't stand it and also the sets and effects and all of scenery was very well done for a movie in that time.😊👍
Indeed and to think they had to use real equipment and had real people jump off planes is amazing!
Naamastay.
Richard Attenborough also produced and directed the moviee `Gandi´.
Namaste Stuart. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I have yet to see Gandhi
Gandhi less accurate (especially Amritsar, which it shows without any context or explanation, such as the rioting and looting and tinderbox of religious strife, or the fact that Dyer had fifty riflemen and the crowd was not entirely unarmed, and at one point the men couldn't hear his order to ceasefire, or that the local sikh community was grateful for his restoring order, and harsh as it is by today's western standards it prevented what happened in Punjab in 1947 from happening in 1919). And it glosses over the utter myopia of Gandhi's Quit India campaign that would have likely lost WWII had it succeeded, or at the very least exposed Calcutta, Delhi, Madras, and Bombay to the same fate of Shanghai, Nanking, Manila, and Hong Kong ..
You should also take a look at Battle of Britain. Excellent film.
one of the best true life sories ever told
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I love a tactical mind
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