The Crazy Future of CPU Cooling
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btw the vid was awesome bro keep up
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@@random_person618 @mryeester i know you can prove him wrong
i have a feeling that a laser cooler would be "slightly" more expensive than the cpu it will be used on
*dies in poor*
and use more power
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@@M1szSand need cooling
Just slightly
If a CPU was cooled to the point that it was effectively becoming a super conductor wouldn't that change the properties of the transistors, making them more conductive as well. It seems reasonable that they would then not be synchronized with the clock and then would function basically at all.
Silikon becomes superconductive at 0.35K as a quick Google search suggested. In Comparison, Liquid Helium sits at 4.2K, while Laser Cooling could get you down to 0.35K. As far as I know does laser cooling not provide the Power to cool bigger structures, so a micro chip should not be possible to cool down with that...
I'm wondering if superconductive transistors would be able to turn off. What would that graph look like which shows what the voltage across the transistor is based on gate voltage? They aren't simply on or off.
The CPU may not work well below -70C as the metals in the die will shrink too much, which will noticeably change its conductivity, the silicon transistors itself will require more energy as the valence gap is higher in the semiconductor atoms.
Note: I spitting bullshit that may be correct.
Having been deployed above the artic circle with laptops the real issue is not the cpu but the screens, plastic cases, storage etc becoming brittle and cracking in the extreme cold.
Just put your pc in the fridge.
would break the fridge, then u will have u buy new fridge every few days
Too rich to care
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imagine a cooling system that uses paper
Dude, that's insane! Just imagine how cost effective that would be.
Or maybe, just maybe even a fan less cooling and thermal throttling, imagine how efficient it would be in terms of power drawing.
The future is now dude
Yo, imagine a cooling system that uses a liquid system. That would be sick.
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@@hamburmer holy shit! That thing exists!!!!! And it can be bought for under 1000$!!!!! Holy fuck, now that's straight up from the future dudes
Imagine an entirely paper pc- the only one I can afford 😂
I look forward to seeing more of these! They’re fun and feel like something I would do at my workshop
i once accidentally put water on a PC board like the guy is doing in the video.
HA HA what fun, the cpu died within seconds.
This man deserves all the awards for how high quality and awesome his informative videos are. Keep it up :]
bro! the play button is in the background for a reason 😁😁
The quality isn't bad, but I know a lot of CZcamsrs with better quality.
@@technischesgaming he is talking about quality of videos, u answering about the quality of content
@@echelonrank3927 Were is the difference?
@@technischesgaming somewhere between the awesome quality of filming and editing, and the average quality of technical info
Material Scientist engineering student here.
Now i didnt do any background research on this just to make my comment however, from what i am aware of: getting your CPU to that low of a temeprature to enable it being near a superconductor temperatures would actually stop it from functioning properly.
The semiconductor junctions inside your cpu would approach something called freeze-out (or ionization). In essense you stop the semiconductor junctions from being capable of moving carriers shorting the ICs. At 0K (not that youll get there) you wont have conduction.
Edit: (no comments yet just adding some more info) rememeber this is semiconductors not metal materials and if you want to look this up quickly you can refer to "Inverse Temperature v. Carrier Concentration"
Another limitation to current cooling technology that I'd like to have seen explored in this video in PCs is the heat transfer efficiency of the materials and whole system between the actual transistors of the processor and your cooling material, be it water, liquid helium or something else. You would probably be able to get quite a bit more thermal efficiency out of your dry ice cooling if the heat spreader (IHS) on top of your CPU was a better material. And even if we remove the IHS and directly cool the die, the transistors are well below the material covering the whole die. To solve this, foundries like TSMC is coming up with solutions like etching micro channels in the die itself for water to reach closer to the transistors to cool them more efficiently.
5:00 actually the risk is the water will pick up dirt/dust and other particles and then conduct electricity. If you could have everything without any dust or other similar things the water would basically be distilled water, and therefore not conduct electricity (then, overtime the water might dilute things like paint or erode a couple of metal particles from the motherboard/heatsinks and will eventually short xD but it takes a loooong time haha)
Was looking for this comment lmao
*me applying flex seal to the motherboard
This video was just great, love it and the sound track as well.
i love your work, i did not know you did videos, keep it up man
The future of electricity bills
I think the fully submerged cooling system in fluid is just funny but also definitely how most server rooms will be cooled over fans.
Thats what some Quantum Computers use. It won't be used for conventional silicon Computers, since it is so bad in Terms of Energy efficiency! Else they would use that already! In Addition to that is liquid Helium damn expensive, so you would probably Just use liquid nitrogen which is a bit cheaper but still inefficient. Btw that is the only reason why MRI Scans are so god damn expensive.
That's how they cool transformers
@@HahnValentin Oh I’m not referring to stuff that crazy. I wish I remembered the name but I believe IBM was working on it and showcased it at a tech con few years ago. It’s purpose built to cool servers and such.
@@guitaristkuro8898 yes there is a solution for submerged server cooling but its just cheaper to run the regular AC units for the server room. you dont want to clean server modules every couple months just because the solution might get conductive (bits of pieces falling of the hardware mixing with the solution).
DIY PERKS did create that set up once , u can watch his video if you are interested in trying it out.
You couldn't find some liquid nitrogen??? What am I paying you for?
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Lol
Please do more long form videos! They are so interesting and I learnt a lot!
Yeester you’re the man. I love these experiments!
water condensation can be directed by modifying the radiator, where there is no water, high-temperature silicone is used, and where heat exchange is to take place and where water condensation is to occur, the radiator is silicone-free
First time I see a video from you that not a short. So happy :)
you have earned a sub bro, learned a lot in this video too
Honestly I like the smile on you face and the passion you put in your videos thank you rasta
My old 2009 laptop was over heating so I needed to close it every 30 minutes and freezed it for 15 minutes and contunied.
Also it had 2x4 Gb ddr3 1666mhz ram
intel i5 3210m
nvidia gt635
500 gb 5400rpm slow as hell hdd
17 inch 60hz 900p screen
lenovo g780
open that up and reapply thermal paste lol
Hey op the i5 3210m came out in 2012... I think you mean 3210m
I changed it thanks @peterwoods8299
Finally after many weeks a video instead of a short.
We just love your content sooooo much!!🥳🥳
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@@Potatochikorita Wanna cry
the AC thing may be a decent option, you would be able to pipe it into the CPU cooler in a case easily and then you pipe the hot air outside.
just make sure to get a 2 pipe one.
I guess it could be used to cool your pc first and then cool your room.
though you can do what I do, turn on the whole home AC and then put your pc next to it so it gets cold air
Electricity costs make it an issue. Heating and cooling require a lot of watts. If you have a 500 watt PC with everything running, an ac cooling that computer may be equivalent to running a 1500-2000 watt system. Not to mention that 2000 watts is mighty close to your wall outlet plugs power limit, so the ac would have to be on a different breaker than your PC so you don't trip anything.
No rides for free in life I'm afraid.
@@omegaprime516 I mean, there's countries where light bill isn't an issue, I have a 750w computer running with an AC on that very same room, what would really be the difference?
the silicon wafer does not heat up evenly only at specific points, cooling the entire wafer and not the hot spots increases the temperature difference and cracks the silicon wafer
love your videos man
I didnt really put it together before this video, but essentially laser cooling is adjacent to tractor beams from science fiction, isn't it?
Thank you for the video. It was very informative.
Imagine that laser cooling system being used for a superconducting zero friction joint on train wheels with AC frictionless motors being used. That sort of system could theoretically make it possible for a train on iron rails to travel at supersonic speeds.
We have magnalev and magnarails which can do that like your laser train idea. Problem with both is the amount of power you need to get those speeds, it increases exponentially.
The water can only conduct electricity when there’s electrolytes in it, such as salt or magnesium or calcium or potassium, water itself is not conducive to
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May be you should try another temperature monitoring software. It seems the one you are using was limited to minimum zero and cannot make a graph under 0 number.
top notch informative video!
Another great way to avoid that is silica gel the thing you get when you buy new shoes it absorbs water meaning it could absorb the water from the condensation
Dessicants don't work that well in an open environment I'm assuming
Id like yo point out that straight water H2O is entirely non conductive. The reason it is conductive is the metallic impurities inside the water, for example, Iron, copper, zinc and calcium can be present in regular drinking water. Condensation normally contains these impurities still due to general localised cooling includes metallic gasses that can get dissolved into the water as it condensates.
Someone should make a pc that uses crazy over-the-top parts similar to what this guy did for the cooling system in this video but for every piece of hardware
overclockers do this all the time, it's not practical for day-to-day use
Just imagining how efficient the system is doing that. 😂
I cooled my overheating ps4 for a while with that boxfan and icepack strat, worked great
oh my god thank you for the tip with nail polish for water proofing boards
Now i just need to actually get to the board 😆
was great.
thanks bro
PCs are about to look like between a Star Wars space battle and an 80's glam metal concert.
I don't really get it, heat vibrations are random so it should be impossible to lower their momentum with a laser, i would argue that pointing a laser should increase the net momentum of the particles
Edit: I just read about it, it's actually super clever, so when they point a laser beam at the atoms, if the frequency is enough to excite the atom from it's ground state, it'll absorb the photon and it's momentum in the direction of the photon(direction of the laser will increase), but atoms vibrate randomly in all directions so normally this would cancel out, as expected. What we actually want is a way to somehow make the photos coming towards the direction of the laser absorb the photon, so that it gets slower, and we want the molecules moving away from the laser to be unaffected so that they don't gain momentum, we achieve this by taking Doppler effect into account, because of Doppler effect, the molecules moving in the direction of the laser will observe a slightly higher frequency, so the frequency of the actual beam can be set to be just slightly lower than the energy band gap, the particles moving away don't get excited because they observe a lower frequency and the molecules moving towards the laser get slower because of the increase due to Doppler effect
Amazing explanation uncle yeester 👍
Your content is awesome, bro. keep it up .
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I wanted to see you build a laser cooling system for your CPU.
In the intro, i love that you cut it exactly at 273, Absolute zero. Fantastic
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To prevent the water dripping on the motherboard, just spray some flex seal on it.
The ac would be even better of the exhaust was hooked up to a window to keep the ambient air cooler too so it operates more efficiently
such a nice entertaining video thx
Hi, may I know where did you get that test bench used for mounting the mother board? Did you cut that off from some case?
HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU TOUCHING THE DRY ICE WITH BARE HANDS
This was really cool!
boy with BRAIN ... love u .. good Contant
Id love a future in which we don't have to worry about coolong anymore
What a fun video. 😂
The diode arrays for laser cooling would be as complex and the transistors in the cpu itself. .
very epic and entertaining but that mic tho, other than that this is very nice i love it 😊
The audio on this video and execution made me think i was watching a reallllllllyyyyy long youtube short XD
the future is if you use lithium grease + graphite powder and very little bit 2 stroke oil and covere this up with jb weld or some like that not for leak out very thin line but NO LEAKING makes good cooling so i think this is very good thermal conductor
Congratulations! you killed it
I love the detail at 0:10 where the temperature stops at -273 degree celcius as it's the rounded absolute zero temperature
I hate physics and chemistry but i love that we know these kind of "easter eggs"
I’m curious, are they opening a micro center in Miami
Another wild idea for cooling metal is the John Searl effect.
Magnets spinning round non magnetic neodymium cools it down to below freezing.
I have never heard of that before! Very cool, is that what they use in the lab experiments to approach absolute zero?
@@richardsmith9615 Its kinda complicated. It was tech that was invented many decades ago. It was one of those free energy generators. John Searl invented it using industrial tech working at a power plant. I can't remember everything about it. But things went pear shaped. The project was abandonded. He kept one device running in his home for 30 years or something getting free electric. He was told to turn it off by the government though.
Ppl have tried to replicate the technology and have failed. There was a Russian guy that was close to replicating it. He managed to get the metal in the middle cold enough to see frost form at the top.
Its all on youtube.
The way it works is that the magnetic field gets so strong that it pulls the electrons right out of the metal and it gets colder. Need high RPM's though to do it.
@@buchanpeter I appreciate the explanation, my friend. I'll have to look it up in detail. Thanks
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@@brandon9172 I looked it up, it's not fake, it's possible that its efficacy is exaggerated, but the principle is not fake.
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned this, but cooling material down to superconducting states does allow flow of electricity through non-conductive materials, which would mean the electrical gates in your processor would not function properly and allow flow of electricity to areas you may not want it to.
You should use flex seal and see if that makes you motherboard waterproof
mryesster: no heat = endgame cooling
Me: Not yet, cooling the lasers and cooling the laser coolers etc
we need a gaming video with that dry ice cooling system
what that model of air conditioner you using in the video?
You have a great voice man! Love the videos
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Pure/Distilled water is actually a horrible conductor... but the moisture in the air (from condensation) will have particles in it.
nice to see something like this, this was always my dream, but i failed the study - tickels me from time to time
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Does anyone know what software this guy uses to measure the cpu temp? I want to use it on my laptop
Cooler with automatic dry ice maker and Isolated from Condensation will be Created in the Future.
That is CRAZY
I like the start when you were showing the temperature going lower until it hit 273 degrees celsius, which is absolute zero where an object has absolutely no thermal energy in it and the atoms have minimal movement.
I wonder if you can say, build a small tank around the CPU and pour liquid nitrogen or like a liquified inert gas.
Imagine buying a cpu cooler in a few years and instead of getting a copper brick and thermal paste syringe
they deliver a laser and a pot of vasiline. That would be awesome :D
Put the dry ice in a box connected to a aio also get a dehumidifier
thx! now i will just use a dry ice and put on my cooler without a fan in my PC. (without paste) :D
can you check in a video what would happen if you replace the thermal paste IN A CPU with liquit metal and put NO thermal paste ON the cpu. Please?
The next step forward in cooling is the classic cooling system of a refrigerator inside a PC case.
A sealed system of copper tubes has a quiet compressor and one common radiator blown by large, quiet fans.
I deleded my 13900k and using a normal 360 aio never go above 77 degrees when using cinebench23 while cpu consume 350watt very impressive
Great video! Slight nitpick though; dry ice sublimates, as it goes directly from solid to gas. Evaporation is when a liquid becomes a vapor
The condensation on the heat sink probably would not cause a short circuit. Since the water had condensed out of the air, it would be quite pure, meaning there would be nothing dissolved into it to carry charges. The reason you would want to avoid getting condensation on any electrical components is because it can oxidize electrical contacts, which can prevent current from flowing.
What about stuff on the heat sink getting in the ice itself and then in the CPU
Thank you for mentioning degrees too. I can't imagine much of Fahrenheit👍
(°F - 32) * (5/9)
If you think about it, the water condensing is just distilled pure water, which is non-conductive!
all I get from this in the end, is in the future, freeze rays might exist through laser cooling...
and I can already hear the Mr.Freeze puns happening.
ID really like to see what happens if you cool something like an i9 13900k while its on high load
drop it like it's cold 🥶
What is the app you use to see the temps
In the bios it can normal read negative temps
Laser cooling is an interesting idea. Makes me wonder if one day I can cool my house with lasers instead of air conditioner?
Don’t look at it
Just imagine they are pushing your molecules and you cant move..
PLEASE dont take this seriously I am just joking
every techbro wants to cool his tech with lasers, but i want to cool my house with a shark.
ppl be like, his house is so cool theres even a shark in there🤩
@Katlyst_ wait i can float *stary eyes and joy*
*sees read more* ? whats this
*sadness*
Your house would start off unbelievably bright and progressively get darker (until house lighting took over) until the house is cooled to the programmed temp; As it converts infrared heat to light energy by exciting the molecules to a higher energy state.
Just like battletech light emitting heatsinks the clans developed. It would work on that same principle. So if your ok (and your neighbors) with excessive light pollution (inside your house) for those moments before being cooled to the target temp, than your golden.
If you don't mind the experience of being inside a light bulb, than you would probably hate what it could do with your body. If the lasers can interact and phase change air, it can and will affect your body. So you probably couldn't be inside your own home when it's on due to phase change in the body and possible melanoma skin cancer (as so e light emissions would surely be in the uv range).
It probably wouldn't be safe to be in the area with it operating without a shit and eye protection (like welding goggles).
But condensation is plain water, just H2O, which does not conduct electricity, no? It's the ions and minerals in the water that make it conductive. So condensation, or a little bit of it, is not a problem immediately, is it? As long as nothing conductive is dissolved in it?
This man is such a legend! ❤
Dry ice sublimates to gas phase. It doesn't evaporate. Nice video though, gonna try something along these line myself, taking into consideration the moisture condensation ofc.
ive been using dryice and ln2 since i was 14 for extreme oc.
Also, liquid metal is not paste ;)
The electrodes inside the processor froze turning into the legendary material Frozen Lightning. Well done! You can now upgrade your Leviathan Axe with thunderous power by socketing this CPU.
Fascinating
this one dude on reddit hooked his water cooling system to his house air condition, his temps were around -2 -3 but could be fake
Does condensed water conduct electricity?
Interesting videos thank you. I wish to know what is material of the processing housing - that shiny metal like part - on which we apply thermal paste.