That Vader Theme During Anakin Scene Means Only One Thing... (LOOK AT ANAKIN'S LIGHTSABER)

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • In the Ahsoka show, episode 4, we see Anakin Skywalker in the world between worlds and many fans are wondering...is this REALLY Anakin? Was that really his lightsaber? Or is it the Son? Someone else?
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  • @youngmaster7405
    @youngmaster7405 Před 8 měsíci +816

    I fully believe that is anakin. I think the reason he appeared like that is because he wanted to appear how ahsoka last remembered him

    • @eriknewton4656
      @eriknewton4656 Před 8 měsíci +28

      only problem with that is he's missing the scar. he had the scar when he was training ahsoka. this anakin doesn't have the scar at all

    • @TheNobodyOfHarambe
      @TheNobodyOfHarambe Před 8 měsíci +148

      ​@@eriknewton4656he has the scar. Zoom in

    • @magnusalexander1601
      @magnusalexander1601 Před 8 měsíci +22

      I fully agree with this. I believe that he appeared to Ahsoka the way she knew him. And to @eriknewton4656 , he does have the scar, it's just really bad lighting on him. I've rewatched it numerous times and it's there.

    • @aaronjoseph1953
      @aaronjoseph1953 Před 8 měsíci +11

      also...i think filoni would want a wider audience to watch this? not just those who have watched rebels and clone wars . explaining what the world between worlds is ...can be easier than explaining who the son is ig..so it should be anakin...

    • @vibepatinus5879
      @vibepatinus5879 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Why would Anakin have Vader's theme?

  • @ledders_
    @ledders_ Před 8 měsíci +794

    I’m just happy to have Hayden back even if it’s not really anakin

    • @mafiagrim
      @mafiagrim Před 8 měsíci +17

      Same

    • @rawleigh729
      @rawleigh729 Před 8 měsíci +25

      It’s definitely anakin

    • @angelomendoza6666
      @angelomendoza6666 Před 8 měsíci +29

      I think it’s Anakin fully accepting his darkness as an irremovable part of himself

    • @patrickpet7905
      @patrickpet7905 Před 8 měsíci +41

      It's anakin. THEORY has been wrong on EVERYTHING with Ahsoka so far.... literally

    • @beakmaster69
      @beakmaster69 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I’m not sure how it could be the son. Didn’t Anakin kill the son on Mortis?

  • @jacobkomnath7961
    @jacobkomnath7961 Před 8 měsíci +298

    I think it's just Anakin's ghost and the music was just representing Ahsoka's feelings and he's appearing to her as she would recognize him. She sees Anakin, is happy and the music is more uplifting but then she remembers who Anakin becomes and then Vader's theme plays. I think the setup is obvious here, Anakin chose his personal feelings and fell to the darkside. Sabine just made that same choice and went with personal feelings. I think we'll see Anakin tell her there was nothing she could have done for him and it's entirely his fault and he can offer some insight into Sabines thinking given they made similar poor choices.

    • @FreelancerAlpha1-1
      @FreelancerAlpha1-1 Před 8 měsíci +15

      This right here is an excellent take.

    • @ripvanwinkle1207
      @ripvanwinkle1207 Před 8 měsíci +7

      this was my take too, the music signifying the bit of fear she still holds to Anakin/Vader after all she's been through

    • @OPGrimmz
      @OPGrimmz Před 8 měsíci

      Great but wrong take . Thanks for your input

    • @auroa9854
      @auroa9854 Před 8 měsíci +11

      theory should see this, this is the most likely outcome. Theory just likes to come up with outlandish ideas and will be disappointed when theyre nowhere near what happened (marrok was never gonna be starkiller, ever)

    • @emperorpalpatine9851
      @emperorpalpatine9851 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Brilliant take

  • @jjmfx360
    @jjmfx360 Před 8 měsíci +269

    I like the idea that this is Anakin taking the mantle of the father, being balance in light and darkside thus completing his role as the chosen one and appears to Ahsoka how she perceive him physically. That will be cool.

    • @tomedmonds1714
      @tomedmonds1714 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Really nice Idea. I had Theorys about Ahsoka becoming the next sister. but i wondered who would take the place of the son, if his place gets taken by anybody

    • @matthewflores4183
      @matthewflores4183 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@tomedmonds1714whoa the father then?

    • @robertdouglass1703
      @robertdouglass1703 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Balance is no dark side, as that only corrupts and brings death. George Lucas many times has talked about this before.

    • @Chosen_one_501
      @Chosen_one_501 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@robertdouglass1703 yeah. I think balance means peace in this sense. And if there are any sith, there will always be conflict because the sith will always be fighting for more power. But if there is only light, there will be no conflict within the force.

    • @santiagoserial3670
      @santiagoserial3670 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@tomedmonds1714Kathleen Kennedy is definelty the son

  • @simongervais9302
    @simongervais9302 Před 8 měsíci +38

    I'm not too sure that Filoni would go as far as to bring the son and daughter of mortis in live action. I feel like The World Between worlds is a place that can justify many visions and elseworlds possibilities, and that will justify Anakin being there, as more of a dream vision manifestation of him rather than a full-on corporeal Anakin or Vader. He has a glove for the mechanical hand because it is how Ahsoka knew him.

    • @simongervais9302
      @simongervais9302 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@CeraVe89 pew pew ! At least his cowboy vibes created Cad Bane and so many other awesome characters !

  • @cjposey1010
    @cjposey1010 Před 8 měsíci +88

    My theory is this. Since anakin is the chosen one. It could be his duty to remain in the work between worlds as a guardian or protector.

    • @MyLibertyTV
      @MyLibertyTV Před 8 měsíci +35

      It's like everyone is forgetting that The Father was wanting Anakin to replace him.

    • @Psyfi85
      @Psyfi85 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@MyLibertyTVyep, to truly fulfill the prophecy.

    • @brandonm4550
      @brandonm4550 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah but this is Disney Star Wars and Anakin isn’t the chosen one in this retconned ip.

  • @TeamValkyrie2023
    @TeamValkyrie2023 Před 8 měsíci +162

    I don't think the son hates his sister. He seemed pretty upset when she jumped in front of the dagger and he killed her by accident. Maybe he's trying to free her trapped essence from ashoka

    • @AKAI2002
      @AKAI2002 Před 8 měsíci +28

      ye he also said that she's the only one he truly loved, so there's that

    • @evanwhitaker6696
      @evanwhitaker6696 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I was going to comment the same thing

    • @lordofthetreefrogs3186
      @lordofthetreefrogs3186 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Yeah iirc he only hated The Father due to him restricting him

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@AKAI2002 which brings an interesting point even the Son, the EMBODIMENT of the Dark Side, loved. Love is NEVER a bad thing. But Anakin always just took it too far and became possessive of those around him, including Ahsoka, REFUSING to accept her death on Mortis and outright DEMANDING the father to save her. Even when he was told no.

    • @darklordvader66
      @darklordvader66 Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@TheRibottoStudiosno attachment is a stupid jedi rule attachment doesn't make u fall but the fear of losing and lust for power does. Jedi methods were wrong

  • @Kai1907
    @Kai1907 Před 8 měsíci +23

    I don't think that this is the son. He only appeared in these few episodes in TCW, it would confuse so many casual viewers if there suddenly is a dark side god doing stuff, that's not the disney way.
    I think this is Anakin in his RotS Outfit, because that's the disney way, and he'll be showing Ahsoka around what would have happened here and there.
    And maybe we get Mustafar, maybe another Vader x Ahsoka and a scene with Rex, all as flashbacks in those portals. That would make a lot of sense from the disney POV and it would explain why they put this episode in the theaters

  • @Vitiate1337
    @Vitiate1337 Před 8 měsíci +51

    Everyone says so happy to see Hayden, but I am actually happy to see you happy. The amount of videos you even put after 4th episode shows how invested in the show you are right now. And honestly we didnt have that for a loooong time

    • @ThePatman1980
      @ThePatman1980 Před 8 měsíci

      Hayden appeared in last year's Obi-Wan Kenobi series. It's not like he's been gone that long as Anakin.

    • @Hurduri
      @Hurduri Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@ThePatman1980 just tells you how badly written the Kenobi series was. How its even possible fuck that up is beyond me.

  • @FreelancerAlpha1-1
    @FreelancerAlpha1-1 Před 8 měsíci +59

    Maybe they don’t have to be a ghost in the world between worlds because it is and of itself a different dimension. They can appear in a more tangible way.

    • @2apocalypsex
      @2apocalypsex Před 8 měsíci +8

      Darth Sidious called The World Between "A conduit between the Living and the Dead

    • @colcha
      @colcha Před 8 měsíci +2

      In Rebels, neither Ahsoka nor Ezra were dead when they were in the world between worlds, so I believe they don’t need to have died to be there.

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation Před 8 měsíci +2

      Anakin’s the chosen one so maybe the rules of a force ghost don’t apply to him. Maybe he can actually just show up but usually doesn’t

    • @colcha
      @colcha Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@TheUncivilizedNation well Disney is changing other aspects of Star Wars, so anything is possible.

  • @botta88
    @botta88 Před 8 měsíci +33

    Thank you for finally clearing up the saber debate! It’s been driving me crazy that so many are calling it Vader’s saber when it so clearly is not.

    • @T33bss
      @T33bss Před 8 měsíci +1

      THIS

    • @danielloader3351
      @danielloader3351 Před 8 měsíci

      yeah on his watch party people kept insisting that it was vaders, being just as confident as they were wrong

  • @jilloneill71
    @jilloneill71 Před 8 měsíci +80

    So happy to see Hayden back again as Anakin! Would love to see an alternate universe where Anakin stayed on the light side of the force and see how things played out

    • @pleshy5646
      @pleshy5646 Před 8 měsíci +13

      full potential anakin vs palpatine duel oooooooooooooooooooooooooooffffff

    • @notduffy9203
      @notduffy9203 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@pleshy5646sounds good but Abeloth vs Anakin at full potential and a super young luke leía and maybe obi wan or Yoda would be sick af

    • @ThePatman1980
      @ThePatman1980 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hayden appeared in last year's Obi-Wan Kenobi series. It's not like he's been gone that long as Anakin.

    • @jilloneill71
      @jilloneill71 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ThePatman1980 yes but that was attack of the clones Anakin and then Darth Vader. It’s great seeing revenge of the sith Anakin again!

  • @siegistic
    @siegistic Před 8 měsíci +15

    Dave Filoni himself said you can’t just go around yanking people out and putting them back where you want. Ahsoka had to go back through the same door she came out of when Ezra pulled her out. And that’s why she told Ezra he couldn’t save Kanan. Ramifications.
    He said the world between worlds is more to get knowledge - NOT change the past
    He also said time isn’t some physical linear thing in the WBW. It’s fluid. Everything connects here.

    • @wandered_rogue22
      @wandered_rogue22 Před 8 měsíci

      @@CeraVe89hating just to hate at this point, Dave Filoni is the only one besides Favareu at lucasfilm that actually understands what the fans like and how the lore works…. You have any facts to back up your claim, besides just opinion?

  • @lordvader_0668
    @lordvader_0668 Před 8 měsíci +14

    Wow actually nice to talk about theories again instead of criticizing a grown man not being able out run a 5 year old lol..

  • @TheSeptacle
    @TheSeptacle Před 8 měsíci +103

    I really don’t understand why people don’t think it’s Anakin. I don’t think Filoni would do that to us - he wouldn’t bring Hayden back just to play a trick.

    • @ddaredevil
      @ddaredevil Před 8 měsíci +15

      Indeed I agree. The son theory disappoints me. I JUST WANT HAYDEN'S ANAKIN TO MEET AHSOKA, THATS IT

    • @TisDansk
      @TisDansk Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ddaredevilikr

    • @perssontm1628
      @perssontm1628 Před 8 měsíci +24

      Yeah everyone is thinking way to deep into this. We see this time and time again. Morrok is a great example, "Hey what if hes Starkiller", "Hey what if hes secretly Ezrea turned darkside".. People are just setting themselves up for disappointment lol. Also I don't think most fans know what they want, if this is actually not Anakin we get robbed of a meaningful moment between Anakin and Ashoka.

    • @popcorn-vn1ug
      @popcorn-vn1ug Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@perssontm1628you right most fans don't know what they want

    • @maybetomorrowmaybe
      @maybetomorrowmaybe Před 8 měsíci +1

      It could be an evil Anakin who fights Ahsoka, but then it will be revealed to be a test by the actual force ghost Anakin who we will see later.

  • @trom120
    @trom120 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I think the daughter left some of her essence in Ahsoka, and the son did the same to Anakin. When Anakin was redeemed, his "good" side became a force ghost, and that part that was darkness (the son's influence) was banished to the WBW. That is why Anakin appears as he did at the time he bowed down to and became Palpatine's apprentice.

  • @Chosen_one_501
    @Chosen_one_501 Před 8 měsíci +22

    I don’t think it could be the son. I just watched Mortis again for the billionth time yesterday. And at the end it became pretty clear that all 3 of them died. Once the father stabbed himself, the sons power vanished, so Anakin stabbing him definitely would’ve killed him. Also, the crystal at the top of the monastery fell, which I think means the planet lost its connection to the force since all the force gods died. Lastly, when the daughter died, the planet became engulfed in darkness. And when the father died, there was no more balance. So if the son did live, the planet should’ve theoretically become fully dark. However that didn’t happen, since he was in fact dead.
    Anyways the whole point of the Mortis arc is that they as gods can in fact die. So to undo the sons death kinda feels like a fuck you to the father and the stakes of the Mortis episodes. Kinda like how bringing Palpatine back took away all the stakes from ROTJ.

    • @lankyboy90
      @lankyboy90 Před 8 měsíci +1

      THANK YOU!!!! I just made this point! The son is dead. He died on Mortis when Anakin impaled him and The Father with his lightsaber. Not sure if Theory is just choosing not to remember this because it helps to create more content?

    • @Ikeepcomingbackhere_
      @Ikeepcomingbackhere_ Před 8 měsíci

      😂

  • @darthnihilusnl4473
    @darthnihilusnl4473 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Ahsoka is gonna need some sand for this fight

  • @Jcampbell44
    @Jcampbell44 Před 8 měsíci +1

    “Balance is going in the one who faces his guilt” beginning quote of Overlords. I think you are spot on about mortis in play, but i think it’s the sister portraying Anakin so she can forgive herself from walking away. We haven’t seen Morai yet like we did in Mando. This is her way to get Ahsoka to find balance which will be needed in the near future for her and more importantly Sabine. We are watching Ahsoka battling demons and struggled to be a master because she never forgave herself for hers.

  • @sodappe6178
    @sodappe6178 Před 8 měsíci +1

    sam witwer playing the son would be one of the greatest things ever ngl. Love your videos man

  • @LordVader66
    @LordVader66 Před 8 měsíci +27

    Could also just be neither Anakin or the Son and could just be a force memory of how Ahsoka last pictured Anakin before his turn. That why he still has his saber, the scar from Ventress, no glow.

    • @TisDansk
      @TisDansk Před 8 měsíci

      That would also be quite lame. Anakin is out there as a force ghost and he hasnt rlly appeared since rotj, why not use him and give us fans an emotional reunion between these two characters. To have hayden come back and only be just a memory to me is quite a waste

  • @dulljxy
    @dulljxy Před 8 měsíci +25

    Can’t believe we’re getting Anakin back! This is gonna be fire and i’m all for it 🔥

    • @ThePatman1980
      @ThePatman1980 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hayden appeared in last year's Obi-Wan Kenobi series. It's not like he's been gone that long as Anakin.

    • @joebond545
      @joebond545 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@ThePatman1980yeah but that show didn't hit us in the feels because it was poorly executed. Its as if it never existed

  • @demowick1197
    @demowick1197 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I mentioned this in your Ahsoka emotion video, but yeah I'm really leaning on this being Ahsokas memory of Anakin and this being either the Son or the Daughter trying to teach her a lesson on certain things. Or it could be even a certain force entity that could be related to Baylons pull towards what is calling him and Ahsoka is part of all this, a kind of key or such. Grabbing straws here but who knows, really if they bring a live action of the Son and Daughter to this, makes you wonder if she will get memories of the moments they first met.

  • @Aaronian99
    @Aaronian99 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I think its indeed an afterlife anakin, who is wise and understands the way of the force and also aknowledges what happened to him and why he did what he did. Maybe he is finally enlightened on his inner struggles, traumas and is now here to help ahsoka, for the first time not because of his selfish character thats overly protective of his loved ones, but just the chosen one who follows the force and does what the force wants.

  • @patriotamerican3426
    @patriotamerican3426 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I think the reason he’s not wearing the Episode 6 Get Up is because George’s editing team at the time couldn’t make him look like he did in episode 3 they could only put his head on

    • @katrose5179
      @katrose5179 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I’m pretty sure that has nothing to do with it. There’s no “putting his head on”. Hayden shot that footage.

  • @logansummer2788
    @logansummer2788 Před 8 měsíci +17

    After almost a week of videos and research, here are my thoughts: 1) that’s clearly the ROTS anakin saber; the button gives it away; the lighting just throws it off. 2) I don’t think ahsoka is dead; when Ezra was there, he was alive and not glowing. 3) I think this is either anakin from before ROTS who somehow found the world and pulled ahsoka in OR this is anakin’s spirit right after he died in ROTJ who also pulled her in; this is all because he is also not glowing and still has his robot hand. 4) she’ll use the world to travel to the unknown regions

    • @alvarberget-9835
      @alvarberget-9835 Před 8 měsíci

      I agree that this is probably Anakin from just before ROTS, having somehow gotten into WBW, and that he is the one who has just pulled Ahsoka in so that she doesn't die, just like Ezra did previously. (Not a lore expert, so I am not sure if this makes sense on every level but it seems like the simplest explanation to me.) What's next is anyones guess. But Ahsoka may try to warn him, and she fails to convince, and just contributes to him turning instead... IDK. He might see Padme dead, making him more prone to believeing Palpatine? Ahsoka might see Thrawn and Ezra and jump through that gate, but where on the timeline? ...

  • @ciscoak9074
    @ciscoak9074 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Have noticed that some "doors" are circles (most from the looks of it) and some ar triangle with other patterns around it?? The doorway ezra pulls askoka out of is one of the triangle "doorways"! it seems like the shape of the doorway may indicate any "fixed"(unchangeable) moments in the timeline, or moments that can shouldnt be fucked with.. perhaps the circle entrances are un enterable or inprenatrable and only work as a "oneway" window!! There has to be a reason or purpose for why most of those "windows/enteries are circles wheras the one ezra is able to interact with is a triangle... i havent paused tp see if there are other shapes.Just pause at 4:07 and u can see multiple circles pathways/windows bur only one triangle, and the one ezra pulls/saves ashoka from again is a triangle one. Dave usually never does anything for no reason so there must be a reason or purpose for what the shapes indicate! My guess like I said is that the more common circles are either one way windows or "fixed" inevitable moments that cannot be changed or if they are changed could collapses reality, and triangle entrances are ones that are maluable and can be influenced without affecting the natural order of what is supposed to happen.

  • @knovakain9977
    @knovakain9977 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think that anakin being in the world between worlds if it’s not the son, is his consciousness manifesting himself there in full body as it’s a realm completely in touch with the force. Like how morai was already there when Ezra showed up to the world between worlds.

  • @MarKreationsStudios
    @MarKreationsStudios Před 8 měsíci +5

    Theory: Spoilers for Ahsoka 5 second warning
    Also Theory: spoils in the thumbnail anyways 😂

  • @jpizzle2150
    @jpizzle2150 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Can’t wait for this episode!!

  • @batmanreborn81
    @batmanreborn81 Před 8 měsíci

    I just subscribed to your channel, and you are now my favorite youtuber when it comes to Star Wars, and you got me even more excited the next episode this Tuesday.

  • @chrism6614
    @chrism6614 Před 8 měsíci

    Theory, I’m genuinely happy to see you grow over the years. Both in your content and as a person. Keep being you. Your content is 100% the only content I like about Star Wars right now. For real. Thanks for keeping the hope alive that Star Wars can return to greatness. May the force be with you, always.

  • @bcdfezz
    @bcdfezz Před 8 měsíci +18

    I rewatched the Mortis Arc and in the end the father, the son and the daughter all die. I fully believe it cannot be the son because of this. It has to be Anakin in some form, whether it's him in the flesh or some kind of manifestation

  • @strax0997
    @strax0997 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I just think that y'all are overthinking this.

  • @0nIyGeese
    @0nIyGeese Před 8 měsíci +1

    When Yoda talks about "Learned a path to immortality" and "RETURNING from the NETHERWORLD of the force"
    The World Between Worlds is that place.

  • @metal_mo
    @metal_mo Před 8 měsíci +1

    The World Between Worlds is the intersection of all time and space. It very well could be pre-scar Anakin between episodes 2 and 3 where he was sucked into the WBW and we are now learning about it for the first time. If so Ahsoka is going to struggle with not warning him about his future.

  • @bstancic743
    @bstancic743 Před 8 měsíci +19

    You have to consider the viewers who have not seen the clone wars or rebels… I think it would be far too confusing for the average viewer if they were to go the route of anakin actually being the son. It just doesn’t make sense to do that… he’s simply going to give her closure in some way or give her knowledge that will help her

    • @REDDRomeo
      @REDDRomeo Před 8 měsíci +2

      This show is clearly not for you if you never knew who the show was about, you would have to watch the clone wars an rebels and if youre a new fan, you could go back after the ashoka show and watxh it

    • @nnnmmmable
      @nnnmmmable Před 8 měsíci +1

      You're right about that. I've never seen Clone Wars, but I knew about the son and daughter, but I'm not well-versed about them. I've watched Rebels, though.

  • @anakinskywalker6748
    @anakinskywalker6748 Před 8 měsíci +17

    Theory hear me out. Imagine this is Vader. Imagine the purpose of him being in the world between worlds to get padme back. This might be nightfall Vader (unlikely) but if it is imagine he pulled ahsoka out to help him get padme back. His whole purpose for turning to the dark side in the beginning so he achieved his power and found out a way to “cheat death” plus like in the VR game where he nearly did this

    • @akaakaakaak5779
      @akaakaakaak5779 Před 8 měsíci +1

      would be cool but 0% chance its anything like this

    • @anakinskywalker6748
      @anakinskywalker6748 Před 8 měsíci

      @@akaakaakaak5779 my thought exactly but just a theory 😜

  • @Sammael757
    @Sammael757 Před 8 měsíci

    3:22 I bet that would be a popular piece of merch right there 🤣 I know the ST has people that love it (and in a way I honestly envy them), but I bet you would still sell a ton of those hats 😎

  • @mcsstudios101
    @mcsstudios101 Před 8 měsíci +1

    if he comes back as Vader...I'd like to see the rebels version of his suit "live".

  • @mattk7903
    @mattk7903 Před 8 měsíci +19

    I really hope it's not the son. The thought of that coming to fruition infuriates me. They're going to have all of these beautiful moments and then if it's the son then none of those will mean ANYTHING if it's not Anakin. Like are we going to get a whole episode of not really Anakin and then just a couple minutes of real force ghost Anakin later? That would be horrible

    • @lacesensor3358
      @lacesensor3358 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Indeed, it would be extremely disappointing if it turned out to not be him. The only scene we have ever had with Anakin after he turned back to the light side is the one at the victory celebration at the end of Return of the Jedi. This is the perfect opportunity to finally make it happen.

  • @self_immolation
    @self_immolation Před 8 měsíci +5

    I think how we are seeing Anakin is how Ahsoka wants to remember him, regardless of if it is actually him or The Son.

  • @newhappiness4410
    @newhappiness4410 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Couldn’t you argue that the world between worlds will look real when you’re there and when you pass to the real world you’ll have that glow

  • @theperipatetic2165
    @theperipatetic2165 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don't put too much stock in exactly how force ghosts appear, especially since they changed Anakin at the end of Episode VI. There could be so many things affecting this, such as their changing self-perception, the way the other person perceives them (or needs to perceive them), etc.
    Happy to see my boy from Van, anyway. Love Hayden. (Hey, that might make a good shirt: "

  • @Marshmellos98
    @Marshmellos98 Před 8 měsíci +5

    What I think might be important to point out is that in Clone Wars the Son was not killed by the Dagger of mortis, but by Anakin’s lightsaber. That being important because the dagger was supposed to be the only thing that could kill one of the mortis gods.

    • @kevingoutaudier2814
      @kevingoutaudier2814 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes the Dagger of Mortis was not the killing blow for the son but the Father sacrifices himself with the dagger and take all the power of the son with that act so I really think the Son is dead either that or all 3 survied

    • @Marshmellos98
      @Marshmellos98 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@kevingoutaudier2814 I agree and think you are right. I’m just saying that if it does end up being the son, him not being killed by the dagger could be a possible explanation.

  • @SazzleCam
    @SazzleCam Před 8 měsíci +4

    I think this is definitely Anakin... Ezra, from this other galaxy, has pulled him into the WBW from a point before Mustafa happens to help end the growing threat from Thrawn. Anakin, in turn, has pulled Ahsoka through. They will exit into the other Galaxy with Ezra... Sabine arrives shocked to see Ahsoka already there. Just my thoughts.

  • @anime-mun
    @anime-mun Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think if it is Anakin this will prove something about Force Ghosts. Namely that they can look however they wish themselves to be seen. He was in the light side robes in ROTJ for Luke because he wanted to show Luke that he did truly return to the light and was whole again. Here he would want to have Ahsoka see him as she knew him to ensure that the trust was there. That she would know that it was truly him. So he had himself look just as he did in the Clone Wars. As for why he has his Jedi Weapon this would link to the Last Jedi where Luke as a projection from the force did the same trick to make a replica of that weapon. Something that has been known to be done in Force Nexuses before as far back as The Empire Strikes Back. Yes, that was a force vision of Vader on Dagobah, but he also had a presence. The only difference is Luke manifested that vision in the Tree of Dagobah. Here it would be Anakin manifesting his old form so he can help his padawan once more. At least thats my theory on it.

  • @Green-IV
    @Green-IV Před 8 měsíci

    I know lots of ppl say it but rly happy you make genuine videos and just express your thoughts and beliefs without bias; it helps inform fans whats rly going on- I have yet to watch all the animated star wars so i have no idea wtf is going on but you fill that gap 👍

  • @ItsDume
    @ItsDume Před 8 měsíci +3

    Bro is milking tf out of this one scene… Most of which he’s already made videos of

  • @user-gh5sd2nm5y
    @user-gh5sd2nm5y Před 8 měsíci +3

    It's definitely Anakin. He's presented in the way he is because that's how Ahsoka remembers him. It's not a force ghost. The world between the worlds is specific to the person who is transported there. It's meant to be a 4th dimensional kind of dream/memory world where everything is happening all at once, time isn't linear. It's like the teseract from Interstellar.

  • @eyalbass5345
    @eyalbass5345 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think it is more interesting what if Ahsoka became the Jedi Knight. The Council states she went through quite a thing that not any knight could, so she defentely could return to the Order and become one of the knights. That would make Anakin a Jedi Master, so he would have other options in the Episode 3 to save Padme, not mentioining Ahsoka around him with whom he could be more open about his emotions, I believe.

  • @luqqas
    @luqqas Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey Theory, the biggest German SW CZcamsr (Star Wars Stories) just released a video with his 3 theories on who Anakin is in EP 4 of Ahsoka.
    Firstly his interpretation of what the World between Worlds is, is the following: it's no place allowing time travel or a multiverse, rather a place where different people from different times can meet, u have the ability to intervene conditionally and u can only exit the wbw by going through the portal u came in (just like Asoka and Ezra in rebels) basically u can't travel in time, however act with people from other times and your own timeline is always fixed.
    The theories:
    1: It's Anakin from around EP 3 he enters the world between worlds and just like Ezra sees Ahsoka in danger and saves her. (him saying didn't expect to see you so soon could mean it's Anakin shortly after Asoka left the Jedi) what speaks against this theory is that so far we haven't seen that portals to the future can open
    2: It's Anakins force ghost, maybe the world between worlds is a place where force ghost can manifest themselves and can partially intervene, however it brings up a lot of questions like why is it only Anakin?`couldn't others like obi wan and Yoda be there too? And why didn't they intervene, or did they and we didn't notice?
    3: It's not Anakin but the son. The beings of Mortis literally are the force. Morai(Ahsokas bird) is more or less the reincarnation of the daughter, and she has access to the wbw. Implying it probably applies to the other beings of Mortis like the son, but they are dead, right? Not the son necessarily because 1. After Ezra leaves the wbw the father and the daughter are still rather static while the Son moves more, which could be a sign the son lives. Supporting this theory: while the daughter and the father were killed with the blade of Mortis the son was "killed" by Anakins lightsaber. Supporting this theory furthermore is Sam Witwer. He is the voice of not only maul but also the son. We already heard his voice in ep1 saying: "he is the chosen one" in the beginning everyone thought it was maul, but since maul and the son share Sam Witwer as their voice actor it could also have been the son.(just like you stated in your video) Speaking against this theory of course is that we heard the voice in a temple of the sisters of the night and maul had a deep connection to them...

  • @lordvader_0668
    @lordvader_0668 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I’m 100000000% it’s not anakins ghost. Why would he have a lightsaber and have a mechanical hand in the afterlife? It has to be her vision or something else

    • @rayvonvelez3129
      @rayvonvelez3129 Před 8 měsíci

      Also he doesn't have his return of the Jedi ending Jedi clothes

    • @richardcastillos2896
      @richardcastillos2896 Před 8 měsíci

      I think force ghost can have sabers in the comic of the adventures of Darth vader castle the force ghost of Anakin appear with a saber and the outfit could be to show her the way she saw him for the last time. In the end we could say the world between worlds works different than the living world and how they manifest(I have wanted to see the force ghost of Anakin appear to Ahsoka because the force ghost of Anakin is the least explored of all the saga)

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon Před 8 měsíci

      In Wii Lego Star Wars the Complete Saga - which is THE Standard of Lore Accuracy im Star Wars, the force ghosts have lightsabers.

  • @samroyans9258
    @samroyans9258 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think the Son would complicate things for "new" viewers. There's not really been anything overly complicated about these episodes yet to confuse.

  • @fransliszt
    @fransliszt Před 8 měsíci +1

    Imagine thinking they're going to reference some esoteric arc from a cartoon. The casual audience would be even more confused.

  • @TheRealMonkeyrogue
    @TheRealMonkeyrogue Před 8 měsíci

    IF this is the case. IF it is done right. I would like to see the Sister pop up at the end all flowing water like "all your scheming and planning, and here you are, right where I wanted you. To show you the Will." or something better written to kick off whatever the next stage of this will be. Not excited but it would be really neat to see Sister reappear, and show that the Will of the Force isn't a thought exercise, it is a very real thing. And even Brother cannot move against it.

  • @tatzcrosoft
    @tatzcrosoft Před 8 měsíci +4

    I think this is just Anakin, he may have visited the World between Worlds after Ahsoka left the order. The WbW shows him Ahsoka and he saves her. And thats why she’s there

    • @mattk7903
      @mattk7903 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Same. They doing all this stuff with the theaters and Dave Filoni directing. They’ll have all these moments and then it turns out not to be him? Those moments wouldn’t mean anything at that point. A whole episode of not Anakin and then probably seeing him later on as force ghost Anakin for just a few minutes of screen time? Makes no sense. Also hoping when he does show up as a force ghost they don’t de-age him. Not necessary

    • @tatzcrosoft
      @tatzcrosoft Před 8 měsíci

      I 100% agree@@mattk7903 👍

  • @cannonhiniker
    @cannonhiniker Před 8 měsíci +10

    I feel like it will be a huge dissapointment if this is not Anakin.

  • @davidstorm2224
    @davidstorm2224 Před 8 měsíci +1

    We reallly reallly really want that hat. I don’t even buy merch and I’d buy that

  • @thewatcher9500
    @thewatcher9500 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Technically the way it works is more like the MCUs branch timeline theory if you pull someone out of the world between worlds then it is doesn't change the main timeline it creates an alternate timeline a branch time line . And i also would not like this Anakin to be the son in disguise that would undercut hayden imo . I believe it's a variant of Anakin

  • @Morteih
    @Morteih Před 8 měsíci +1

    That is Anakin. This show is made to introduce casual viewers to the more heavy stuff. They won't complicate things that much.

  • @NYOURBUSINESS
    @NYOURBUSINESS Před 8 měsíci +1

    I taught because it was how Ahsoka remembered Anakin

  • @Swearengen1980
    @Swearengen1980 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dave basically said this is Rebels season 5. Throwing the Son into it a huge villain would completely undermine the Thrawn/Ezra story they've been setting up. The portrait of the Son moving in Rebels doesn't mean he's still alive. The Daughter moved to open the portal and she's dead, so that was an illogical statement. There's just no rational reason for forcing the Son into this episode unless it's a one off that pushes Ahsoka forward. If the Father/Son/Daughter play any roll in this, my Occam's Razor is that Anakin did take over the Father's position as he wanted him to do, thus he'd be head of Light and Dark, hence the light side Anakin & Imperial theme.

  • @JohnAnderson-sr7nf
    @JohnAnderson-sr7nf Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey bud just wanted to say I love your channel I like how your real with things and don't beat around the bush and lot stuff you say makes sense. I really hope it's anaken and may be hes appearing in front of her in that out fit cause that's how she will remember him easier cause that what he was wearing the last time she seen him and be cool if obi-wan shows up to to give her advice on what to do. Or anakin is the one who saved her and that only he could of saved her is by pulling her in that world

  • @taifunkchichris
    @taifunkchichris Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really hope that it is just Anakin and not the Son. I say this as a starwars fan. Its hard enough for me to keep up with stories due to not reading many of the canon novels etc. But I manage to get by. I can't imagine how hard it would be for casual viewers as it is, let alone adding the Mortis gods back into the mix. It would be a big own goal if Dave F has added him in without any sort of introduction or story recap for the casuals.

  • @SkyHighGuys
    @SkyHighGuys Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love watching all these videos before the next episode 😂

  • @brandontyler1754
    @brandontyler1754 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's also possible that since Ezra knows how to enter the world Between Worlds that he had reason to pull Anakin out. Maybe right before episode 3

  • @christophersandidge8257
    @christophersandidge8257 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video. That reminds me that I need to dust off the case on mine and then re-box it. Thanks.

  • @tonymaurer3588
    @tonymaurer3588 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It could be that force ghosts appear to as the viewer would remember them. So Ahsoka would think of him as episode 3 ani and Luke would see Obi as old Ben in the OT

    • @thegreypath1777
      @thegreypath1777 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @tonymaurer3588 - I really like this theory of yours.

  • @noahsibahi-jackson8757
    @noahsibahi-jackson8757 Před 8 měsíci

    3:57 Yes Theory please make that hat!!! I would buy it the second it releases 😂

  • @zmk4555
    @zmk4555 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think this is a good Anakin that pops up and that he is finally able to finish Ahsoka’s training against the fight with baylan.

  • @travboy1272
    @travboy1272 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if after Anakin brought balance to the force and became a force ghost, he found out about the world between worlds and he is now the keeper of it, he would then fill the Father role from the Mortis gods, Ahsoka would be the Daughter obvs, and then maybe a starkiller type character/Vader secret apprentice would be the Son? It will be an interesting episode anyhow, especially since it’s going to theatres.

  • @ironfeather2438
    @ironfeather2438 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is all in ahsoka's head
    Like a dream
    And in some cultures
    If you die in a dream
    You also died in reality
    You just never wake up.
    That is the world between worlds
    I don't think they're bringing any more villains
    It will take away from the main villain.

  • @Age_of_Retro
    @Age_of_Retro Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think its Anakin too. When Ahsoka was pulled out by Ezra an older version of him pulled her out. You can go back and forward in time in there. Time isn't a linear path. I believe its Anakin.

  • @WiseWolf006
    @WiseWolf006 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I hope it’s Anakin, man. This is probably the only chance we’re gonna get of watching Anakin and Ahsoka in live action. I don’t want it to be some “trick” or whatever, I just wanna enjoy the moment.

  • @reflex6907
    @reflex6907 Před 8 měsíci

    The music definitely represents how Ahsoka sees him after their duel

  • @baxterwilliams9290
    @baxterwilliams9290 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I would love a scrouge style episode where we see all those different outcomes a really cool one would be a older padme with child Luke and Leia on Naboo.

  • @nerdynailsrmgp
    @nerdynailsrmgp Před 8 měsíci +1

    My new theory is that sometime before Anakin fell to the dark side he found an entrance to the WBW, went in, saw Ahsoka fighting Baylon in one of the portals and yanked her out just like Ezra. That's why he isn't glowing. But Idk. 🙂

  • @ariesstorm9577
    @ariesstorm9577 Před 8 měsíci

    I absolutely love that Dave Filoni has ignited so much positive debate and discussion among fans.
    I’m loving all of these theories that the Ahsoka show is churning out but there is only one Star Wars Theory 😃

  • @xXxArcher13xXx
    @xXxArcher13xXx Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think they just wamted to portray him like he was in the beloved Revenge of the Sith, and the explanation would be that he wanted to present himself to Ahsoka in the way she remembered him....like in ROTS.❤

    • @wildwoodandonyx
      @wildwoodandonyx Před 8 měsíci

      It was probably footage that was cut from ROTS.
      All of this is Ahsoka going through The Trials. When she returns, she will be a Jedi Master.
      Luke and Hera will find Ezra with the help of Jacen, and a young Ben Solo. But that will be the next season. Luke and Wedge (and Han?) will show up after Hera’s failure with the hyperspace ring, and there will be 2 or 3 missions going on at once.
      •Ahsoka finding Zeb and Rex for help.
      •Luke, Ben, and Jacen searching for Ezra.
      •Sabine sabotaging the inter-galactic voyage to find Thrawn, using her engineering “power.”
      Unfortunately, Hera will probably die, saving Jacen.

  • @Malgus-2023
    @Malgus-2023 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I heard this episode will be in theaters. I hope it rocks.

  • @TimDaco
    @TimDaco Před 8 měsíci +2

    Awesome Video!!! I Think is is Anakin, Because This is a really Big Deal and I don't think Dave would do that and then it's just a trick but I could be wrong. I also wouldn't mind if it is The Son because That would still be Pretty Cool. I'M SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!!!!! I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST EVER!!!!!! IN FILONI WE TRUST!!!!!!

  • @Ty-yy7zr
    @Ty-yy7zr Před 8 měsíci +1

    The son did get anakin to the dark side during that arc for a little bit.

  • @theblackgoatsking
    @theblackgoatsking Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if it's The Son played by Sam Witwer? He did mention he had some involvement in the show. Wouldn't that be a cool surprise and twist on Filoni's part?

  • @samsmith2635
    @samsmith2635 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice bringing out the Eps. 3 Saber collectible.
    Season 3 of Clone Wars Ep 15-16 all those subtle facts and the old Ahsoka warning the younger Ahsoka of the seeds of darkness planted by Anakin....
    The Father said he was dying and tried to give his position to Anakin...
    Anakin said no during the Clone Wars but who knows what he said after he died. I bet Anakin is the Father now.

  • @jakejamelkowski5926
    @jakejamelkowski5926 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Maybe it’s based on the perception of who the person talking to the force ghost. So Ahsoka sees anikan as she did the last time she saw him. And anikan can see Ashoka’s current form because he’s been keeping watch since he died. Just a thought

    • @Alex-fe5fz
      @Alex-fe5fz Před 7 měsíci

      That’s what I was thinking that’s how she last saw him

  • @johncappelletti3176
    @johncappelletti3176 Před 8 měsíci

    Notice when Asoka says master she shakes like the bridge moved as he showed up

  • @MrTCOOPS16
    @MrTCOOPS16 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I would say if this is Anakin, he chose to appear to Ahsoka as that Pre-Mustafar younger self. Because that’s how she remembered him before going on the mission to Mandalore, before Order 66.
    HISHE made a joke about that perception with the casting change for Force Anakin during the Special Editions compared to the Original Release. So maybe this joke is being brought into cannon, from a certain point of view.
    As an example of this from another source of media: In The Legend of Korra, Aang’s son Tenzin ends up in the Spirit world, and while there speaks with him. He perceives him as an older man compared to how Korra sees Aang when he speaks to her as a younger man.
    Good theory, but I think this is really Anakin.

  • @idlefritz
    @idlefritz Před 8 měsíci

    3:20 sounds dangerously close to multiverse shenanigans

  • @IIIC3YLOCO
    @IIIC3YLOCO Před 8 měsíci

    He said hello snips, didn’t think I’d be seeing You this soon. Telling us he seen her recently. Think of times Ashoka has interacted with anakin around ROTS. I think this is truly anakin and for some reason the force has brought them back together to defeat a powerful evil. The only thing that makes me a lil nervous about this is the Vader theme. But I really hope filoni makes anakin if not a goood character, a morally balanced one in the least. Anakin was never truly evil as sidious is. So this is the chance for us to see the True anakin. The one the fans don’t know. The one I love the most.

  • @josiahbecker3703
    @josiahbecker3703 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I almost wonder if the reason they allow the lightsabers now is because lightsaber cyber crystals are a living extension of yourself ... they require that connection to you specifically and Noone else can connect the same way ... so kinda like a if you still have it when you die ... you can be granted that

  • @magniteproductions3767
    @magniteproductions3767 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Anakin is the Chosen One so PERHAPS he has a unique afterlife.

  • @fettmaneiii4439
    @fettmaneiii4439 Před 8 měsíci

    Skanakin Aywalker! Let's see Lady Tano go at 'im with her green and off-green sabers!

  • @swgeek4310
    @swgeek4310 Před 8 měsíci +1

    So I know it's a different scenario but here is a thought..Luke projected across the galaxy, looked different as well as had a lightsaber that wasn't in his possession in EP 7. Maybe it really just is Anakin. This will for sure be a interesting reveal either way, can't wait

  • @lalo-kt4te
    @lalo-kt4te Před 8 měsíci +1

    Film theory watches the episodes before they officially come out he's just teasing us

  • @lukejochem
    @lukejochem Před 8 měsíci

    @swtheory, World between worlds is Dave's version of Flow Walking from legends.

  • @lislehill3198
    @lislehill3198 Před 8 měsíci

    "You can clearly see it in the show" puts up a blue square with about 7 pixels on it 😂😂😭

  • @thechosenfun6795
    @thechosenfun6795 Před 8 měsíci

    I think your kinda right about world between worlds is where force ghosts reside because in clone wars qui gon tells yoda he exists in the past present and future. Where else does one do that but the world between worlds

  • @fatnakedjimmyneutron
    @fatnakedjimmyneutron Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you for finally debunking this Theory! It was getting really annoying with everyone saying it's Vaders lightsaber or he has no scar, when he very clearly had the scar and the ROTS lightsaber

  • @republicbountyhunter81
    @republicbountyhunter81 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I actually believe that Anakin has become the Father after his death in ROTJ and is bringing balance to the Cosmic Force. Ahsoka dies and is brought to the World between Worlds due to her cosmic power given to her by the Daughter on Mortis. Anakin will teach Ahsoka to tap into her cosmic powers thus creating Ahsoka the White (light side of the force). He will put her back in the time of the finale of Rebels where she shows up with the staff and white robe.