CYLINDER HEAD PORTING, B1 MOPAR HOW i did it!!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 09. 2024
- In this video i cover in detail some of the portwork that i have completed on my Brodix B1 cylinder heads for my dream engine. She's an all-aluminum 588 big block Mopar that i am building for my ole high school hot rod 1964 Plymouth Fury in my tiny little garage. In this video i discuss the different steps that i took to get through the porting of these old school aftermarket cylinder heads.
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As a die hard Mopar guy, who also is fascinated with cylinder heads, valve train and camshafts, I only have one question: Where the hell have you been the last 30 years? LOL! Love the work and videos, subscribed on both my accounts!
Awe thank you Rob!! I really like how this format is connecting each of us like this.
Thank you for subscribing
I think portwork is easier than editing đł
Kevin, very nice presentation!!! I'm a die hard Mopar person. I rebuilt my first engine in 1957. First race car was a 1964 Dodge Cornet factory drag race car, with a 426 Max Wedge. I built a 530 cu in with B-1 heads
Wayne you sir have been at this a long time! And B1 experience also! Love them early B bodies.
Welcome to the channel and thanks for the compliment.
Rest of my comments; I remember doing hours of grinding for hours as you did on the B-1 heads. I've been porting heads for 57 year's. I built the 530, it went into a Dodge truck puller. It turned out to one of the top contenders at that time. I'm also a SAE Master engine machinest and etc. Keep up the great work đđ.
Wayne I am honored to have someone with your level of knowledge and expertise subscribe to my channel. I will do my best to keep it fun and interesting. đđ»
Iâm throwing the heads on the BMP block and back scribing the chambers now.
I love how this thing is coming together!
EveryoneâŠ. Hey⊠just get one thing done today
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That procedure is not know or thought of by most. But oh soo important. Flow testing with Exactly the same size pipe as the cylinder bore is crucial to perfection.. Contrary to popular belief. Perfect is Not an Accident đŻđ
@@outlawofga yes!!!
Hey I really appreciate the positive feedback my brother. This collection of like minded enthusiasts is motivating.
Cheers Kevin
New to the channel. That's some serious porting. I am checking a lot of Mopar stuff as I getting ready to put a motor in my Altered. Due to it's light weight I don't need 800 HP but you can never have enough horsepower. At 74 years young, I need to get going. Thanks for the video and the info. I'll have to check out your other vids.
Hey Rupert thank you so much!! 74 and still building hot rods, you sir are winning!!
Sounds like you are putting together a stout engine as well! Thanks for the comment and thanks for being here.
I trying to get another video out. Building engines is way more fun.
Whatâs your new set up going to be?
Thanks, Kevin
I think a LONG time ago you might be the guy I bought a 67 GTX Plymouth from I lived in Reno then. I have done W2's, cast heads 906 915 x heads J heads etc.. and in the last few years some Trickflow heads never did B1's looks like a LOT of work but in the end they will kick butt good video.
James I want that car back! jK
Thanks for the comment.
Sounds like we have similar experience.
Just curious⊠while in the Reno area, did you ever do a set of stage VI big block heads?
The dexterity that it takes to Finnish combustion chambers and ports like that is incredible. I know first hand. My wife and I stopped be UEM in May. The owner Chris, as I recall was trying to head out, but he could tell of my enthusiasm to get a tour of the headquarters, that he obliged. It was great. I use their pistons regularly on clients builds. I am not a Mopar guy. However I like V8 engines either way, and I share your passion to go fast. And yes, mechanical roller camshafts rule. Mike at Jonescam, Bullet cams, are my go to people. I look forward to more cool videos.
67 Comet, thank you very much. Ya the guys at UEM are legends. I stopped by there on my way home from work yesterday. They just finished the pistons for the 588, Iâm trying to come up with a video for those now.
Itâs funny how we get labeled a Mopar guy or a Ford guy⊠as a hobbyist Iâve probably done more Chevrolet engines than anything. I do have a 460 sat aside for a future project as well. I agree with you, engines are just fun.
Thank you for the support.
Kevin
Came across this comment again this morning. And just realized that you mentioned Mike at Jones cam designs 10 months ago.
Sort of a mind blowing moment for me. Mike did end up doing the cam and I canât wait to share what we came up with.
Thanks again. Kevin
@@griffittsgarage Cool, I am always interested to see camshaft specs for a given application.
I've done a lot of porting actually chainsaw competition two-cycle engines and whatnot but your work is outstanding brother keep it up
Thanks Reilly! Thanks for checking out my video and thanks for the feedback!
I need to post something soon
@@griffittsgarage I used to occasionally hang out at" High Velocity heads" in Boca Raton Joe patelli he's the guy who invented the SP1 Victor manifold & the Victor & Victor Jr manifold he had a ton of brodix cylinder heads NASCAR and Winston Cup I would try to pick up any tips I could get
@@reillystsb thatâs fascinating. I had a similar thing happen to me in my 20⊠I carpooled with the head cylinder head porter from Larry Olsonâs EPD. Talk about vertical learning curve đ€Ż
Couldnât get enough of that stuff. Wish I would of done more with the knowledge.
Kevin
IMAGINE CUTTING ON IRON. I DID IT FOR YEARS. LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. BUT REMEMBER, IT.S ABOUT VELOCITY. YOU CAN POLISH YOUR WAY INTO A PAIR OF TURDS. BUT I LOVE YOUR DEDICATION . I REMEMBER TAKING THE HEADS OFF THE ENGINE TO CARBON TRACK WGAT CYLINDERS WERE DOING. BUT I THINK YOUR ON THE WAY TO GROOVYNESS.
Wow, great job on the heads and your car. I always loved the b1 emblem on the daytona the pro stock guys ran.
Hey thank you!
And I hear ya, those early days when Alderman ran that big B1 decal on the scoop⊠golden!
Thank you for checking out the video.
Kevin
Pretty sweet canât wait to see how itâs going to run
Thanks Steve!
Iâm starting to get a little excited
Thats Bad ass. Thats my cup of tea. Intake manifolds, and heads. Excellent work
Hey thank you!
I am having the best time trying to document the different things that I need to get done on the car. I sure like hearing that other people enjoy it too.
Great work
Hey thanks Dean!
Getting closer đ
Love it. Thank you!!!
Awesome! Thank you Ken! Weâve had some set backs lately, but things are starting to happen again here in the Garage. Thanks for subscribing đđ»
Very interesting! Thanks for taking the time to present what youâve accomplished.
Thank you Robert!
Great job! Them shavings will follow you home!
Haha best comment yet!
Itâs soo true!
Nice work! I have been practicing on some junk magnum heads and only wish they looked half as good as yours. Alot of work and not easy but it is a lot of fun!
Hey Ray, thanks for stopping by đđ»
Thatâs a great way to practice⊠used heads.
I actually just finished a set of magnum heads recently as well.
The Edelbrock aluminum version, I ported them and a kegger intake and installed them on our van.
I probably should make a video for that project.
Thanks again for being here.
Kevin
I hope youâve got your pilots license, because that car is going to fly!
My friend you are an artist few men on the planet have that kind of patience I did this professionally for over 30 years and your work is as good at work as I have ever seen I'm assuming you're a hobbyist you can walk around with your chest puffed out awesome job
Brian, thank you soo much for that! This video making stuff seems to be just as difficult for me to learn. Iâm trying to learn as I go, itâs been a challenge.
There have been times Iâve thought about quitting⊠then I get a message like this and Iâm glad I didnât.
Thank you for the compliment and thank you for the support.
Kevin
One step closer!!! And I agree with the other comments, the pictures are great! Awesome job piecing this video together, Kev. You put so much work into it, and it shows!
I love you Ashdoll â€ïž
Thanks for all the support! đđ
Nothing better than a motor with dual dominators! Great video.
I couldnât agree more! I wanted dual dominators on the street since I was a youngster! Thank you so much for the support I dig your channel as well đđ»
Kevin
That was a very beautiful work I really like the work that you do...
Juan, man that just made my day! Thank you for the compliment đđ»
I had to take a little break and work on the daily driver⊠Time to clean up the garage and get back on the fury.
Have a good evening đđ»
Well what an amazing Craftsman you've become. Props to Mopar guy. In 5he summer of 68 at 17 I've been reading some old hot rod books about the early hemis, so helping my Dad since the age of 12 keeping food on the table and fire wood for the winter. Junking. And all that. I found a 57 Imperial wrecked at a used cad dealership, Dad worked a weekend selling recap tires. I bought that Imperial for 75 dollars. For money I made on the side mowing lawns. A a small resort lake. The place i went to school there was a senior who had a early 50s Chevy club coupe. All fixed up with a v8
Riding the school bus I often seen it cruising town we we the last ones off the bus. I found the same kind of coupe. And put the drive train in the 52 and actually drove it. That summer of 68. The only thing I didn't do was weldcthe drive shaft. To this day I don't know why I did this but I put 3 ft long or longer 3inch sq. Tubing traction bars on it. The one my neighbors was reving his new car at the near by cross road, hearing this i jump up on the picnic table it time to see a car top really moving. Jumped in to the junk yard car went to look to see where it was . The guy live a mile as the crow flies stopping there I seen the youngest son. He took me to see his older brother. And the it was a recently purchased drak green Heni post Road Runner. He gave me a ride in it made a couple of rides in it.
All this set the stage for me being a MOPAR For life. As for you great head porter. Extraordinaire (sp) I've watched many videos. Like many people have commented. I subbed right away.
I can't but wonder how this heads would of helped my 69, as you may of thought RR POST CAR. I went with factory suspension 440 4 spped dana 60 with the factory 4.10 gears. A rebuilt 440 6 bbl. Engine with a tm7 intake 750 holey. To a best of 11.38 at 118. With a 484 comp cam. Then added 4.88 14x32s ladder bars and coil over. 9 deg down to get it to plant. Added DCs 590 purple shaft. To a best of 10.69 at 124.7 summer runs no cold Temps all on stock dia. Valved 906s.
Well I really do appreciate your dedication to perfecting you work.
Donald wow!
Love the story! It takes me right back to my youth⊠maybe all young up in coming hot rodders think the same way.
Thinking about your big block set up and how well it ran makes me want to do a comparison showing the development
of the big block Mopar cylinder heads and intake manifolds. That might be a fun thing to look at and discuss.
Donald thank you for the kind words and the motivation đđ»
Kevin
PS the .590 purple shaft cam from Direct Connection was a game changer đ
@@griffittsgarage thank you for your kind responce. Hes what happened a year latter. I got a job in the steel mills overhead craneman summer of 69 $4.61a hour. Meet a fellow mopar guy who had a 69 340 Dart Swinger 4 sp. He was always banging gears. I never had a 4 spd car to play with. He borrowed his car for a date noonish.. well I was stood up. Left the parking lot. Not happy so I hit the gas and hit the 5k and bang. It was amazing. So next clear road and I forgot all about her. Being up in the norther state we were use to fishtailing. Gravel roads and all. So picked the owner and told him ive figured how to shift like him.. He said go for it . Wow he said you sure did. Soon we were at the drag strip . After a few passes, he tossed me the Keys and said go see what you can do.. well that was my first and next to the last. Because I dropped him 4ths. Not real happy from that time on. Life soon changed I won the draft lottery. So I joined . But that first summer my I bought my first car to drive to work. A white 1960 Dodge Matador 2 Dr. Ht. The old 301 was OK. It died. So a found a 413 (Golden Lyon) from a 1961 New Yorker. Started it. And it had a burnt valve . Pulled the head went to the auto parts house . Stuck it in because I had to get to work. It never gave me a problem. It really woke the old batmobile. As my friends called it. Luckily it wasn't black. At that time and the draft. Messed up playing in the best time to be a mopar guy. But I can truly say I did get to order a 1971 HEMI CUDA. (caps on purpose) . Burnt orange black vinyl top and interior.
Hope you enjoyed that. Have a great mopar evening.
Man I really can appreciate your labor and devotion. Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I started porting in the 80s . Mostly for myself and friends and it slowly rolled into a small business. I built a flow bench in 94 and the rest is history. Peebles PERFORMANCE was born and I never looked back. Now I own a full on machine shop. But where we have the most Unity is we're both Mopar guys. I run a Blown Alcohol 440-500 stroker on my Rail. I enjoy reading and studying things, that's how I landed here. Great work my friend. Keep it up and may you be blessed in all you do brother đđ
Thank you so much!! đđ» I absolutely love how this CZcams project has been putting me in touch with so many like minded enthusiasts!! Iâve thought about building a flow bench soo many times too. I dream about expanding my small home garage and then maybe adding a flow bench. A good friend always tells men that guys like us become married to the bench đ€Ł.
Thank you for the kind words and helping me stay motivated. I just finished a editing studio here at the house to help streamline this enormous learning curve Iâm going through with computers and the editing process. Thank you
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage your very welcome.. That friends not lying about the flowbench. I spent 3 years of free time testing everything I could. I would cut heads into 1 cylinder (end of a head) so I could make it easier to lift and test... then I built a Velocity probe... It got serious then. I found high speed air vs the low ... the time just flew by. But I can just look at a head now and know just what to do and where
Good luck brother
That's actually good news, seeing that much can be sorted. Takes a bit of know how, but bare casting like this was aimed at performance crowd anyway that wants to tune for application. I do wonder about the exhaust runners - that's more than just core shift. Wonder what they may have revised since?
Just ran across your channel and I thought I was tuned in on Mopars and I have never heard of "B1" heads...that clearly means I have a lot to learn...
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm currently gathering info on building my 1970 440 HP for my 70 R/T Challenger replacing the original 383 Magnum!
Lastly, I like to thank you for your service from one Seabee to another, especially being both mechanics!! đđđșđžđșđž
Looking forward to more of your videos..
Razor!
Razor, what a nice comment, thank you and welcome to this tiny little channel. You got here just in time, I have a lot of fun videos in the works. I like to use the comment section to help guide the content. Thanks for noticing my decal there⊠in two years you are the first to do so. Thanks for your service as well.
I served from 85-90 nmcb-4 and cat team 0424 in Micronesia.
I do have a great 440 build coming up as well, but it has to wait itâs turn. For my sons 64 polara.
Again welcome đđ»
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage
Hey Kevin,
What a great surprise to see your reply..I am a bit detail oriented too, meaning I don't miss much..I started out going to Gitmo, loved it, extended a year, shortly after that had a head-on with a Chevy pick-up on my 72 CL-350 Honda..flew me to Norfolk for surgery (on right foot), off to San Diego with ACB-2, then to NMCB-5 off to Diego Garcia, finishing my hitch in Guam...
Don't regret a single thing. At over 65 now, been a motorhead my whole life, my first car was a 70 R/T Challenger, that I knew nothing about, been a Mopar fan since..I have a few Mopars in my stable now and looking forward to building my "new to me" (as of a month ago)
440 HP.
I will be tuned in regardless of what you build, as I will be posting my build on my "tiny"đ€Ł channel as well!
Pleasure meeting you Kevin!
Thatâs some top notch porting! Canât wait to see it running!
Thank you Rafael! I canât wait either!!
Do you still have your Dart?
@@griffittsgarage oh yeah, I still have it, sitting on jackstands for a few years, but soon it will be back!
Hellya getting there
Thanks Steve!
Iâm just over here chippin away at it!
Thank you for watching
Most Excellent!!.....Love the effort and the finished product!!....I know there's lots more to do, but I can't wait to here it run!!
Thank you Phil. Iâm getting closer. Thank you for watching and thanks for the comment.
Kevin
nice work on the heads I built my own tunnel ram fuel injected manofold .I got the back butterflies and rods from old quadrajet carbs.And I put four on top of the intake runners like carb. And then I tap in nozzle ports in the runners I wish I had the B-1 heads
Welcome to the channel and Thank you for the compliment!
I have got to check out your intake! Sounds like a project that I would love!
Kevin
That video was great Kevin. Why you did with the pictures was great, maybe better than video. That was awesome. Porting has always intrigued me, I tried once on some 906âs, broke into a jacket and gave up. Lol.
Hey thanks Jonny!
Right!!! Weâve all busted through 906âs haha đ
By the way⊠do you know hard it is to edit when you see a Jonny Mopar-Mike Coffee video post!!
I dig your big block A-body videos man!
@@griffittsgarage Lol. Thanks Kevin. I wish I was good at it. Iâve just been messing around with multiple cameras. Just when I think I have a system a new problem comes along and I have to change the game. On the Duster video I started editing using software on the computer putting all the footage together cause I canât do that on my phone app. Then I put that video on my phone app for everything else. All the Coffey videos took a lot of time. But turns out he brings the Views. That 70 R/T and 66 Hemi videos are my best performers. So I guess it was worth the extra effort.
@@JonnyMopar I always tell my wife⊠I just need a tech savvy youngster all geared up following me around the garage, so I can just work hahaha
Hey, second thought ⊠maybe learning this tech stuff will help reverse this aging thing. đ€Ł
@@griffittsgarage Lol. I need one too. And I wish it turned back the clock. My body aches so much more than it used to.
Great job Sir.,......My Danny Chiguina I'm from Guam .......we own several Mopar's out here wish we had great machine shops like how you guys have out there.
Welcome Danny đđ»
I love Guam, passed through your beautiful island back in the 80âs.
We are pretty fortunate, but at the same time we have a lot of machine shops that are not as good as they used to be. But there are some good ones for sure.
Itâs pretty cool connecting with people all around the world on this platform. Thank you for subscribing
Wow! A tremendous amount of work! I would like to hear more about how you made sure the ports and combustion chambers were consistent. Beautiful workmanship!
Thank you Craig!
Lots of measuring. Years of practice helps too.
Thanks, I never quite know what parts are interesting to people. Sometimes the information I like the most bores the daylights out of the next guy haha
Thanks for watching
Kevin
Great video! Mopar Chevy guy here. B1 heads are some serious heads. Like them better then the Hemi stuff.
Thanks for the comment, Sean! There are some things I like about the B1's as compared to the Gen II Hemi's.
For one the valve train is way better.
The combustion chamber is better in terms of quench and mixture motion.
Although for this build, I do wish i could get a little bit bigger intake valve and the intake port could be a little better (but that's just me being hyper critical).
Its not easy getting an inline valve engine to make big power. The B1 feels like a giant small block chevy head with a raised big block chevy rectangle intake port opening. Its going to be fun.
Thanks again, Kevin
I truly enjoyed your video especially the attention to detail and I would love to hear it run and see it run a lap or two
Thanks Robert! Itâs really motivating to hear this! Are you working on or planning any projects at this time?
Had a set in the late 90's. Found welding the exhaust port floor about 3/16 of inch 1 inch in increased flow.
Itâs funny you say that. I totally agree⊠the B1-BS head actually has a taller exhaust port floor (more modern head) you can see little things throughout this head that show its age (when it was designed)
I feel like I could do a separate video just talking about those things. The plug location and the floor of the intake would be on that list.
Thanks for the comment.
Weâre you happy with your combo when you got it sorted out?
Kevin
We welded the floor after we flowed them. Playdoh showed what worked on the flow bench
I would like to see some of these techniques applied to trickflow 240's or edelbrocks. I like the idea of the finished chambers. Just curious about where to source that cutter. It looks like it could remove material fast and leave it smooth at the same time.
Great info keep the videos coming
Thanks Junior!! Will do.
Hey what are you building/working on project wise?
Kevin
Future build
Steve do you have a set?
Wow !! Those combustion chambers look amazing !! I'd love to see an in depth video on your polishing technique. Very impressive work. đđ Subscribed !
Hey thanks for subscribing đđ»
And thanks for the compliment!
Thatâs a good idea for a video, I just put it on my todo list.
Itâs basically 80 grit then 220 grit cartridge rolls, then I make a roll out of scotch bright and zip ties on a cartridge roll mandrel to finish it off.
Kevin :)
@@griffittsgarage OK, cool. Thanks for the info. đ
Nice job Griff
Beautiful work!!
Eric Weingartner recently posted his ported and flow tested pair of B1 heads. I am sure you will find it interesting and the flow numbers informative.
outstanding vid , thanks a lot .
Wow thatâs a really nice compliment, thank you Tom!
Very nice anyway you already picked up a tenth because of the weight loss with all the aluminum you took out LOL. I have never ported B1s but I have on about everything else Mopar the only thing I would have done a bit different would be in the spring seats the thickness between the seat of the valve springs and the roof of the port. With a huge cam that will need very high open valve pressure springs I would have left a bit more meat in there but like I said I never ported B1s just seems to me 0.50 thickness is a little thin especially at 7000+ RPM. Don't get me wrong I can see you do fantastic work but it would have maybe maybe gave up a little bit of flow for stronger longer lasting heads in fact at the track there might not have been any difference in the future ET.
Any remember flow numbers are great but velocity is just as important I know you already know this very well because the width of the bowl area I think you said 90 or 91 percent from the valve seat diameter anyway when you get that monster running I cant wait to see it.
Very nice work.
Very impressive!
What do you think the flow numbers are.
What lift of camshaft are you using?
And the .050 number intake and exhaust?
A very professional job.
Great content.
Thank you, EM.
Ed, thank you so much for the compliment!
I agree, Theses are the same things I would be wondering as well. I will start answering theses types of questions as I roll out more videos. Maybe Iâll start a list.
But in the meantimeâŠ
Target flow numbers on the intake port should be around 400cfm @28â
280-290 @.050â
.750â lift
With a target operating range between 5500-7500
Cheers
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage Thanks Keven.
Have a great day.
@@griffittsgarage I was thinking i remember hearing of a b1 l engine in the Denton TX area years ago . The 400 cfm i was think should support around 800 hp .I not a cylinder head guy but the videos look good . In my option cylinder heads is one area you dont pinch on to make hp and torque . Thanks for the videos
Some really nice work in there. Some flow numbers would also be a compliment to your work.
Thank you đđ»
I would be lying if I said I wasnât just a little curious myself!
They should flow well over 400, ehh just a street car :)
Not dry at all, love to hear more. Nice b1s , more on porting and special pistons. At the moment I'm trying to figure out if I have one more engine left in me. Curious to see what you're doing start to finish
Thanks X! Thanks for the kind words đđ»
Iâm working on more videos right now. This editing thing has been a huge challenge for me to learn. Icon pistons are building the pistons right now and I will share that real soon. I probably need to talk a little bit about the parts that Iâve decided to use and why.
If you could build one more engine, if you had one more engine in you⊠What would you like to build? I like that topic
Amazing that much can be removed, I was comparing it in my mind to the restrictive Chevy heads of the 60âs and even though they were cast iron, they needed hogging out!
Exactly!
The thing is⊠these heads are huge in comparison. What I think I need to do is a comparison video.
Maybe I can show the size difference between the production big block head, the max wedge and then the B1âŠđ€
Thank you for watching and thank you for commenting đđ»
The 90% transition of bowl to valve ratio was defined long, long ago... "Venturi Effect" same as in the carburetor, air speed is amplified into a depression using the venturi effect. (nozzle effect into a vacuum)
We have found that, as we raise the intake port window, we tend to increase the throat percentages (generally speaking)
The traditional low port production heads get a smaller throat dimension, because of the lack od valve exposure on the short side radius.
Got to get the air column around the valve job. đđ»
Thanks for tuning in.
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage Seen a Vizard video where he suggests elongating the throat in favor of the short side, there's so much to reflect on from the mass of online info now days. Not a Mopar Guy but I'll enjoy following your project. Enjoy the 128-132 formula for cam selection out there too. That had to have been reversed engineered from dyno sessions and Track Time. Nice work on the ports, much attention to detail. Someone needs to make a cutter to shape the valve guides in port, something possibly in multi blade (3) pencil sharpener fashion, that lead pilots from the guide bore or possibly a form cutter on the fly. Guide ends do need shaped and done without loss of length.
I enjoyed the video, I would like to see what they flowed
Hey thanks David. Ya, it would be interesting to get some flow data.
For me though itâs more about comparing my last set of heads to this set. Iâm just excited to get this thing back on the street.
@@griffittsgarage you did some good work there. There is a lot to porting heads, I remember starting and making them big. I now know better.
Loved the video ! The more technical, the more I like it. Btw, Iâm not a Mopar guy, okay ? Iâm a Ford guy. But, I wanted to see and hear your methodology, to see if I could apply it to my cylinder heads . Nothing critical, or mean and hateful from my end , okay ? Just keep on keeping on ! Canât wait to hear it run.
Thank you Jimmy!
Iâm not a Mopar guy either. Just a gear head like you brother. I love all home built hot rods! Have always wanted to do a big Ford. I have a 460 that Iâd like to do one day.
Ive always said the secret to making cylinder heads flow well is to not tell the air which head itâs going into đ
@@griffittsgarage Youâre welcome !
Oh.... The fun of porting aluminum and going home with with bits imbedded under your skin, fun.
HaHa exactly! Sounds like you are speaking from experience Chris... :)
You used a file to radius the Exhaust Guides ? I thought you used a Lathe !! Good work.
Thanks. Ya I just chucked them in the drill press and used a big file, then sand paper.
The exhaust guide takes a pounding with the flame! The finish helps it last a bit longer.
Thatâs my thought on it anyway.
Beautiful!!!! Did you check / redo the valve job after reinstalling the guides? That usually changes the alignment. Be great to see what they flow???????????
Thanks David! Yes I redid the whole valve job after that. Funny I still need to finish the 30 on the exhaust side though.
Thanks for the support
Kevin
What editing program do you use? Good stuff man!
Thanks Cuz!
I trying to learn davinci resolve. Itâs a pretty complicated editor. Itâs been tough to learn. Iâm trying⊠đ€·đ»ââïž
You know what would be really cool for BB Mopar Wedge engines? A *Wedge* head that has the same port arrangement as a Hemi that could actually use a Hemi intake. I'm not talking about Hemi heads on a Wedge here.
I wonder if it's doable?
I'm watching this and thinking of all the variations of these heads over the years and not one has addressed the paired intake ports and paired center exhaust ports at least that I know of. Ultimately they might be limited by port cross sectional area on the intakes because the pushrods bracket the intakes and heat concentration on the center exhausts.
I do know many heads support big power it's more just a thought experiment.
Wild comment sir, I love it!! This is probably the one topic that Iâve spent the most time thinking about over the years! The entire concept would evolve around original head bolt placement. You are correct. It is possible and the only reason Itâs never been done is because of small market size⊠the guys that tend to focus on ideas as deep as this see the big Mopar as too small of numbers and they couldnât get a big enough return on their investment. I would love to do it!
Iâm afraid I might put my tiny little audience asleep if I tried to make a video about the topic đ
@@griffittsgarage No. I won't go to sleep.
I'd love you to do a vid on it. I also don't think your audience would object because watching this is already pretty hard core. There are a lot of us around.
Years ago I read a racer article. I think it was from the factory DC bulletins even and how they modified a set of Ford Cleveland heads for a 340 in Pro Stock. It was pre W2 etc days. I remember them saying it was not an easy undertaking since they had to relocate the head bolts.
It was something I found in a technical book store and was well out of date by the time I read it but I was shocked and disgusted but at the same time amazed at the lengths Mopar people would go to when they got sick of being beaten by Fords.
In a sense we're not the only people to think about this stuff.
@@ThePaulv12 I remember hearing something about that way back when!
So hereâs what happened to me⊠I spent three years commuting with one of the cylinder head developers from EPD. The guy was on the front lines of pro stock cylinder head development in the early 80âs when pro stock was the coolest class on the planet. My mind has never been the same since haha
Awsome work,,how about the B1 TS heads? do they still make them? very imformative,thanks
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment. The answer is yes! Iâve been thinking about picking up a set for a while now. Iâd love to shorten the stroke and turn it harder.
Thanks for stopping by.
Kevin
Beautiful work! Is all the B1 stuff still available, heads, rocker gear and such? I assume youâre not looking to duplicate these ports, but have you looked into a CNC program? Anyway, itâs way beyond my wants and needs but very interesting just the same! Subscribed!
Thank you thank you Ron!
Brodix just posted a picture of a stack of freshly casted heads last week. I will walk everyone though the valve train set up and how to get these assembled real soon.
There are cnc programs out there, but Iâm just a poor kid doing it in my garage :)
They should flow over 400 pretty easily.
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@@griffittsgarage I like how youâre doing this project, spend the money where you need to, save money by doing youâre own work (impressive!), maybe a little horse trading, and it doesnât have to be astronomically expensive lol!
@@rong4189 Exactly!
Maybe I need to mention this more often đ€
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Love the video. Have a look at predator heads, if you haven't already. I haven't seen a better wedge head than the preds. There really isn't as I'm sure you know a wedge for a mope that can fill the cylinders of a big inch motor. With all of them we go way over intake exhaust valve size ratios to favor more intake size, then just cam the exhaust into submission.
Thanks Darren, and ya I couldnât agree more, the Predator head is a really amazing piece. Iâm always fascinated by them, good buddy of mine has a set. Iâve thought about buying them.
Iâd shorten the stroke and buzz it higher for sure!
But for a inline valve wedge of its size, the B1 MC is pretty dang good.
I do like how the B1 still looks like a big block Mopar head.
Nice to meet you, thanks for stopping by.
Kevin
@griffittsgarage I remember when B1 was the spooky new ps head. They've always made nice stuff. Glad you're getting after them. There's always another pony hidden somewhere
Many years ago when i was a kid i had mopar hot rods but at that point my friends had chev and i finally moved on One of the things that i did not see or know about was a set of heads besides a hemi that would support the hp i wanted to see . There were just torque motors and i wanted more . I always wondered if any one made a set of heads would support hp like a ford or chev . Thanks for the videos
Ahh the good old daysâŠ
Thanks for sharing Jim. I guess Iâm trying to make wedge Chryslerâs great again.
Thanks
@@griffittsgarage I appreciate you videos and sharing .
@@jimkillen1065 I want to discuss this topic in a future video. The challenges of doing a project that has very little support, ie, building a big Chrysler instead of a big Chevy, hemi or canted valve Ford.
I feel like this sort of content is nearly endless.
Thanks again Jim
@Griffitts Garage ...do you know about the Predator cylinder heads for the BBM... they're basically a copy of big block Ford head & flow 500 cfm... Indy
I love all muscle cars. Growing up my cousin bought a brand new 71 roadrunner. He was 18 and I was 11. I was like his little brother. I was hooked to Mopar ever since. I think everyone has a reason for the brand they prefer. I have helped build all of them. Just couldnât understand why everyone wanted the same old Chevy. I like that not everyone has a Mopar. Sorry for rambling. I absolutely look forward to your videos. Going to start on my 72 Charger 440 build soon.
Very nice. Looks good. Are you basing your port work on experience or did you go by someone like David Vizard or other?
Hi Magnus, thanks for asking.
Although I have been playing with port work for a really long time last, I just stick to the proven basics. Straighten the roof. Donât over port the bowl and keep a certain amount of restriction at the push rod pinch. Keep in mind, itâs a 4.5â piston operating between 5000 and 7500 RPM. These heads could actually stand to be larger, but for now I just want to see how it works in the car. Iâm super excited about getting to do this.
David Vizard is a wealth of information, as is Weingartner Racing, Eric has the best cylinder head channel on CZcams.
I have a life long engine builder friend of mine that I consulted on all the math for the head and rest of the machine work for the engine.
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WOW⊠I had no idea how much work a set of B1 heads needed. I was under the impression they were bolt on and go.
Jimmy Ford, they are somewhat of a cylinder head porters dream. It was a long time consuming project, but I think it makes it that much more rewarding when it works đ€đŒ
Thanks for watching
I'd be tempted to just fling them at Brodix and get the already-mapped CNC porting done on them.
@@exploranator
Itâs a passion project for me. I have more time than money and Iâve been porting engines for going on 40 years. I want to do every single thing right here in my tiny garage đ€Ł
Besides Itâs way more rewarding when you pull the gear lever đ
Happy Friday man
Have you thought about using completed heads as molds and having Trick Flow cast new ones that can be sold?
Great question Robert!
As a matter of fact yes!! I bet Iâve spent a million or so hours over the years thinking about my own head designs⊠I bet most cylinder head guys do as well.
It would look nothing like these if we had a clean sheet to work off of.
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@@griffittsgarage youâve a damn fine channel.
Hey Kevin, those heads look good. Iâd be curious to see some flow numbers, I know the B1s were pretty good from what I read. The heads I have pre date those by a few years. There Zeeker which were made by Indy before they revised them and sold them direct. I bought them in the late 80s and have yet to run them. They flow ok, but there are better heads out there. Your really helping me get motivated on my car. Iâm making a list and going to start buying parts because the prices are going up so fast. Iâm calling Crower in the morning to get the lifters,they did the cam Iâm running. Do your lifters run the centered or offset pushrod pocket?
Thanks Rusty!
I would be curious what these would flow. Itâs a nice step up for me, so Iâm good for now.
I remember the Zeeker head, but I never ported any. I looked for them on eBay for years.
Super happy that youâre back on the Dart!
Im running the centered lifter, but I still havenât got the cam and lifters in the block⊠đ€đŒ
Cheers to a productive week Rusty
@@griffittsgarage ; Just for what itâs worth, I had the heads ported at Indy and they flowed 314 intake 256 exhaust @ .700â. Thatâs with 2.250â/1.750 valves. My cam is 259/261 on a 115 LSA. .640 lift. Turbo cam,470cu â.
@@rustyh8806 turbo setups are soo sweet! I think about them constantly. Nice to not beat the heck out of the valve train like that!
Your cars going to fly
@@griffittsgarage ; This motor will be a sort of test mule, if I want to go faster I will build a new motor. Aftermarket block and good heads,Iâd like to keep it a low deck if possible.
A great video
Mopar fan here too
What did they flow?
Thanks Eric.
Iâm such a slacker⊠I never got them on a flow bench. That would probably be a good video to make.
Thanks for stopping by.
Kevin
Anything on how to improve a set of inexpensive 440 Source heads ?
Hey thanks for the comment!
Ive never seen a set up close, Iâd love to just look at a set and give my thoughts on them. If I had time Iâd port a set⊠It would be interesting.
I heard they were actually located here in Carson city đ€
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Can you just raise the intake ports right up to at or above the gasket rail and make them even more straight-shot to the valve?
I understand that would be a vast amount of work, custom intake, etc.
But aren't the ideal ports just a straight shot to the valve?
I also know that heads are not a constant-flow thing and different rules apply, or we could just use 6" diameter ports for maximum flow, but this is a piston engine, not a gas turbine.
Indeed, that is exactly what I did. The top of the port window is directly inline with the top of the bowl. Which matches the angle of the intake manifold runner. Itâs pretty neat. Thatâs where maybe 80% of the material came from.
If I spent a crazy amount time welding up the roofs above the intake ports we could keep raising them yes.
But there are bigger heads out there that I would look at first.
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@@griffittsgarage That sounds like a beautifully set up set of heads. For years with the manifold, like the Tarantula for example, people just acted like changing directions of the intake flow suddenly mattered not at all.
Love the videos! What CSA for the 588?
Iâll dig out notes Jim đđ»
Dude!!! Awesome video!!
Thanks Ray!
I miss driving this ole girl
Enjoyed your video man! Just curious,,, what ET are you expecting outa your 64? And do you do customer porting?
Tim thank you so much for the comment! I like this question.
All I want is a 8 second time slip. It I donât want to get silly with the nitrous. It ran 9âs on the old 498 BS headed combo⊠so I think itâs obtainable đ€
Iâm taking a break from doing work for others, long enough to hopefully get this CZcams idea off the ground.
What heads were you looking to have done?
Again thanks Tim
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage I have a 63â Savoy Iâve had for 44 years. Runs 9.20@143 on 315 drag radials. Hot streetcar! I have 440-1âs on it that need freshend up.
@@timbishop7824 I love the 63âs!
I really want to get my car sorted out like that.
143 is flying!
What valve sizes those use? Intake port minimum cross section? Looks great!
Oops, just saw this comment. I'm running a 2.300" intake valve and a 4.41ÂČ inch cross section. The Mrs. can reach down the intake port and grab the valve stem. It's not perfect, but it should be fun.
Thanks for the great question.
Kevin
Flowbench Time
Exactly!!
Iâve wanted a sf600 for 30 years haha đ€
Iâll pick one up after I add on to this to this tiny little garage.
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Do you think you will go with a spray bar in the valve cover for rocker oiling?Or pr oiling?
I'm going to pushrod oil it. I believe that is the most effective method at the higher spring loads.
Have you seen David Vizards work ?
Absolutely, my parents used to buy me his books for Christmas đ€
Uh yes, Kevin, me and some of the boys here are wondering, are you running a v8 or an automatic?
Also, are you planning on running full race cams or just 3/4 race, cause you mentioned that you're gonna run street & strip, so we weren't sure at that point! Also, if you ever suspect a burnt valve there at the track all you gotta do is hold a dollar bill up at the tail pipe and if it doesn't suck it into the exhaust pipe then it's not gonna be a burnt valve that's keeping you from turning in those 8 second passes, it's probably because you haven't flipped your breather top over upside down, not to mention it sounds much better when you kick it down to the floor when you're taking off...trust me!!!
One last thing, we all think you're shooting wayyyyyyyyyyy low on your 60' times! 8 seconds? Really? Come on man, I know it's a dang Ole 67 model Plymouth but geez, you art to at least get way deep into the 5's or the 6's with your 60' times cause if you don't you ain't never gonna outrun them dern Chevrolet boys in them Camaros & Chevells in the 1/4 mile!!!
OK, feel free to holler anytime if you need more advice, I'm thinking of starting a blog on this kind of information & advice, for free!
OK buddy, later!!! đđđ
A fellow crewman on the Lake Erie Monster had a set of those heads and flowed 400cfm for on a 526 and made around 975hp maybe at 7200 rpm.I was a crewman on the Koffels dragster for 10yrs.Could you give me your email and I will send some pics and bs a little?
Thanks for the pictures Michael! I would of loved to be involved in a race program like that back then! Thanks for sharing.
@@griffittsgarage I hope you don't have to clearance the pushrod holes too much in your heads from having a lot of offset on the intake rocker.What size pushrods will you use 7/16" depending on your spring pressure.We had to remove the roller lifter at the track 1 time and barely had enough room with the heads on but I think you have a taller deck ht.
BTW, under your video to the right of your channel name the viewer can click the subscribe button and the notification bell. Just watch someone elseâs video and youâll see it.
Got it!
Iâm a little slow đ€Ł
Do you do the same with cast iron heads?
Pretty much, itâs just that grinding cast iron is a much slower process. Itâs also rougher on the ole hands. Aluminum is soft and easier to cut.
What do your heads flow now after all of the port work?
I would guess, around 420 on the intake.
By far the most common question Iâve gotten. Every once in a while I think about putting them on a flow bench.
I should start a patron for those expenses ;)
Itâs a really nice port shape for being designed in the 80âs
i am guessing you saw the results on weingartners site on my B1s he did for me last September. He had the from december 2022.
So what are the flow numbers?
I need a flow bench :)
Whacha do with all the metal shavings?
Richone is here!!
Hey!
Most of the time the shavings just get swept up and thrown away in the trash. But these ones are sorta special⊠đ Their in that bag on the shelf above my bench, They sit there and give me a little sense of accomplishment whenever I look at them.
If I did this type of work every day Iâd recycle â»ïž for sure.
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@@griffittsgarage Oh! I'm curious because I could put them to use if you ever have some you'd throw away.
@@richonebrown now you got me thinkingâŠ
I think I have a couple pounds of clean-ish chips, you are more than welcome to :)
Not dry to me pal
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What are the finished CC and what is flow?
The #1 asked question.
Itâs very possible they could be in the 420 range. Maybe Iâll CC the intake port for a future video.
Thanks for the comment.
Kevin
@@griffittsgarage thank you , i think peak will be much higher!