First look at the Cirrus SF50 Vision Jet in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2022
- A first look at the wonderful Cirrus SF50 Vision Jet in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I'm not usually a fan of glass cockpit aircraft, but this one may have persuaded me - it's very, very good. I take it for a quick test flight from Wycombe Air Park to find out how it works.
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p.s. I'm going to do some research on headsets - proper microphones are great - until they are not :)
wow...pesawat yang sangat keren mister
Bose ...in-aircraft product placement 😂
Do you have a video on how to land it with a ILS landing
Excellent introductory video and thanks. After spending a few hours 'behind the wheel' it will likely be my go-to non-prop aircraft. I'm not a big fan of the airliners, but rather stick to the prop aircraft. This appears to fit in some middle ground of getting from point A to B quickly - and at high altitudes - with the handling characteristics of a prop aircraft, particularly when landing.
It's very easy to fly :)
Picked this up yesterday and I love it. If you don’t have much time or even if you do it’s a great little jet which you can get quickly in the air.
Yep - it's very easy.
Very similar to the Honda but I like the VNAV and auto throttle features of this. I also like the gray and orange livery combo. I may purchase this soon. Working Title will be working on the G3000/5000 and we should see it in the first quarter of next year. This jet has customized this G3000 like the developer did with the Honda. It's a cool looking jet. Thanks for the upload and quick review.
The auto-throttle is the height of laziness, and I love it :)
Loving my Vision jet so far! Good video Jon.
Cheers!
Great video. I've watched a few about this plane and you're the first person who looks like you have a clue what you're doing :) And I suspect you're also the person who persuaded me to buy it :)
It's pretty straightforward - although I will admit the VAMS system was new for me.
Thanks again for an excellent video JB. Think I'll be add this to my fs hangar.
You're welcome :)
I loved flying this in X-Plane, so really looking forward to it coming to MSFS..
It's very, very good.
I enjoyed your review and have been waiting for the release of the plane. Question; what do you use to move around the cockpit regarding your viewing. Its smooth and very nice. Thanks!
Great video! Thank You.
You are welcome!
I absolutely loved this in X-Plane 11, so getting this even as payware was a no brainer. I'm in the middle of my first short flight right now, haven't even read the manual yet. I was just going from memory and internal checklist. So far i love it.
There's one "small" thing that i hate, though.
The massive headphones on the dashboard. I get that it's most likely a product placement and it might have even helped to finance this little jet mod, but it literally blocks the view out of the airplane and was pissing me off to no end.
Thank you for this video. It would probably took me a while to find how to remove them if i haven't clicked through it. (If anyone haven't found out how, it's the middle screen/VAMS icon/Bose).
Happy flying!
Yep - the VAMS options caught me out to begin with too.
Clever product placement definitely lol
Arealy nicely done quality video
Cheers.
You mentioned stuttering I'v noticed this since the last update usually near
Airports. We did have a small update the other day so maybe this fixed things.
It was a server issue - notice the trees were not rendering? It solved itself later in the day.
@@jonbeckett OK, but I've had bad stuttering I'v never had before since that last update.
This is in the region of London.
"Can't set fire to the covers ..unfortunately!" . ..😂👍
Great review and a relaxing video as always. Will definitely look into purchasing this although i prefer old timer prop aircraft or helicopters
Thanks for the review
Thanks 👍
Beautiful
Great Vid cheers. Jon,I have been Flying the SF50 for 3 years on xplane 11,This is on another level.Glad it has come to x box x.series.just waiting for the Gigabyte.M32UC.curved screen to arrive,and take off LOL.
Sounds great :)
This is very cool!
Cheers!
In real life, there's a bug with the electrical system in that if you start the engine using the GPU, the heater and air conditioner get shed and can't be restarted without shutting down the plane and starting over. So, in real life, they use the GPU to fully charge the battery, then start on the battery. The good thing here, from a rampie's POV, is that the GPU is disconnected before engine start. As the exhaust pipe is at kneecap level, unhooking the GPU with the engine running would require either a very low limbo under the very low tail, or walking all the way around the front of the plane. So IMHO as a rampie this is a good thing. Is this modeled in the plane?
The other thing I know as a rampie is that you can't add oil to the engine in the usual manner with a long-necked funnel because of how the engine's mounted. So the plane comes with this oil "dispenser" that reaches in and gets oil into the engine, and you pour the standard oil can into this "dispenser" thingy. Then you put the "dispenser" thingy in a Ziplok bag and toss that in the baggage compartment. Problem is, the "dispenser" thingy isn't pressure-proof so barfs out the oil in it at altitude. And the provided Ziplok back dissolves when turbine oil touches it. As a result, ALL Vision Jets in my experience no longer have carpet in the baggage compartment but only absorbent pads, nor carry any baggage there because all soon becomes soaked with oil. Also, there's a big oil stain down the side of the rear fuselage from the aft lower corner of the baggage compartment door. Cirrus is aware of this problem and promises a new oil "dispenser" thingy in the near future. So does this big oil stain and the lack of carpet show in the game?
Heh - great inside knowledge :) I somehow doubt it will simulate those things - would be good if it did though.
That's interesting to read from a real world perspective ...nice thanks
FYI you cant change the weights in the cockpit. you can only change it via the sim menu. The sim menu is the master and the cockpit weight screen is the slave.
Good to know!
14:20 Can we take a moment to appreciate how people would kill to have a sim look this good default a few years ago.
Indeed - no matter how many times I fly in the simulator, there is almost always a moment where I have to pause and just admire what it's doing :)
Thanks - I am not a fan of Tupperware with an ipad as PFD. - But this one is really cute. Purchased.
NGDriver had problem with ILS capture. I will check it out- maybe it will be VFR only - until update?
What is ngdriver ?
@@jonbeckett The pilot who flies 737NG in real life - and member of PMDG test team. Very active here at youtube
@@ysteineker7001 Oh - yes - sorry - I should have realised what you meant. Yes - I've had problems with ILS capture too. I'm sure it will get patched.
@@jonbeckett My fault complete avatar is 737ngdriver. Tested ILS - works OK. Appr mode with loc and gs announciator in green top. There is no GS ind - Just follow the red command bars
Update - there is small blue dot for GS - My last flight, it did not capture it
Yep, yep. This an the DA 62 are appealing to me
It's very good.
Thank you
You're welcome!
A good first impression video but I am going to pass on this one as the H-Jet is I think better and enough for me in the small jet category. I noticed at 08:33 you referred to runway 22; just so you know how much attention I pay to your videos😊 All the best.
Yep - I know - should have said 24!
Hard to say yet if the H Jet is better. They are both really good. The H Jet has seen a lot of support so it is more matured. I expect this will see similar support.
This really gives the pilots a view. That’s the main feature. And it kinda flys like a GA plane.
The H Jet is more of a business jet.
So they do feel different in spite of their obvious similarities.
Wondering how you add the outside cover?
It's in the tablet.
Would you say this is better than the Honda Jet I would like to get one of them I would like to use a small jet?
They are both made by the same developer. I think the systems in this one are a little bit nicer than the Honda Jet.
I hope it works in xbox x. Nice review. Thank you.
You're welcome :)
Do you know whether there is an operational VNAV in this jet?
Yes. Works perfectly.
Is there any mods without the white stitching? it is not accurate or an option.
I have no idea.
I'll certainly buy it if it is offered on another platform than the marketplace. I have never been able to buy anything the marketplace. 🤷♂️
I believe it will be available from other vendors soon - of you check the developers website, it looks that way.
How is the panel night lighting?
I'll have a play with it later - try it out.
Wll this make it onto the VA fleet?
Where is the parking brake release?
Good question - I'm not in front of the sim at the moment. I'll take a look when I am.
Have you tried nearly crashing this aircraft, i have, as i was getting used to how the auto pilot works. i had my headphones on IRL, and i nearly hit the ground. Then in my headphones i heard this panicked heavy breathing, its even got pilot effects modelled in by the looks of it, the heavy breathing scared the living daylights out of me 🙂
Brilliant :) If you have FS Realistic, you hear screaming.
Can this plane fly with worldmap ?
What is "worldmap" ? Do you mean "can I plan flights in the MSFS world map screen and have them automagically appear within the aircraft ?" - yes, I think you can.
@@jonbeckett default planer
Flew back to back I think the X-plane version feels more realistic on the ground especially when landing. Interior Sounds maybe better too. Everything else msfs version wins.
I find XP12 better simulates ground effect!
I don't know how you can say the Xplane version has better sounds tbh
Some people will argue one sim is better than another all day long- they are all good.
@@hotshot4512 It's opinion but the x-plane 12 sound is very good. You can actually hear the fans of the avionics with engine off. When you adjust the flaps you can hear the fans speed lower as the battery is shared. When the flaps stop the fans idle back up. It's very detailed and sounds very realistic. I have 0 loyalties; I only call it where I see it.
@@caribbaviator7058 I gave them feedback on their discord about it. There are planes in MSFS that does it pretty well. For me the suspension feels like you're landing on table legs. Overall, the plane is a very good package for 25. That and a few nav bugs are my only complaints.
Anyone see the outside air temperature gauge?
It's in the MFD settings - under Aircraft Systems.
The sim really needs a high fidelity long range medium size business jet. I am satisfied with the H-JET. Will pass on the SF50.
I would love to have a citation X+ in Msfs. You could go around 530 ktas and up to 51000 feet. That's crazy compared to other bizjets!
@@powerstone3626 What about a Phenom 300 or a Hawker XP 850? Makes sense? Carenado gave both a shot back in FSX.
@@nicknicholson1268 Yeah I agree on those two. The phenom 300 that was made by sim federation or whatever their name is wasn't received really well. I mentioned the citation X because I thought it was mid-size and because of its capabilities, but it seems to be more of a super mid-size. We should get another phenom 300 and/or the hawker xp 850 as the amount of bizjets we have for Msfs is lacking. It would be cool to have them.
@@powerstone3626 Thanks for your reply. Fingers crossed, no doubt there are developers out there who will make our day one day!
The CJ4 with the Working Title mod is very good.
When is he leaving ?
I'm happy - you are happy - I'm damn sure the developer is - and the Honda influences make it worth this
old age pensioners - pension
:)
What the devs give us for $24 is a bless. There are so many more expensive but worse Planes on the marked. You can find Videos from full real flights in the SF50 and it behaves exaclty like the model in the sim.
Yes - it's one of the more accurate aircraft :)
So basically the engine blew the covers off? Lol!!
Maybe lol
I'll stick with my Honda
**Update** I bought it. It's really great!
Couldn't resist it ? :)
@@SneakyPete67, it is pretty different compared to the Honda, isn’t it. In spite of some major similarities.
not interested to fly this plane, no vnav modelled is boring as there are many better alternatives like Longitude G5000 TBM G3000 etc., with AAU1 beta latest garmin they are way more fun to fly
To each their own :)