Why Is The Reaction To The Tortured Poets Department So Mixed?
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Ever since Taylor Swift's highly anticipated double-album 'The Tortured Poets Department' (TTPD) released in April 2024, the reaction has been extremely mixed, with Swifties saying it's one of her best albums, and the general public saying it's one of her worst. In this video, I analyse the reaction to the single and music video 'Fortnight', analyse the lyrics to the whole album, and break down the entire tortured poets era, from its announcement at the Grammys, to the promo, to the album rollout, and to the reviews and reactions. I break down the allegation that Taylor is becoming the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) of pop music and that she is becoming overexposed, particularly through the re-recordings, the eras tour, and her relationship with Travis Kelce, and previous relationships with Joe Alwyn and Matty Healy. I also break down why the reaction to this album has been so different to Ariana Grande's Eternal Sunshine, Beyonce's Cowboy Carter, and Taylor's previous albums: Debut, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989, Reputation, Lover, Folklore, Evermore, Midnights, and the Taylor's Version albums. - Zábava
At this point there's no turning back for me. I'm all for Taylor and as long as I'm enjoying her music I don't care what other people think of her or her music.
This is her "difficult woman" album. It's a brilliant ode to all the messy, unlikable famous women who came before her, and I love how much she leans into that. I think it's her best work too besides evermore and folklore, and this is another fantastic analysis. The GP's reaction will always be predictable, and it's a shame most people will dismiss it right off the bat for the same tired reasons everyone else is parroting. At the same time, it doesn't really matter, because she made this album for HER.
100%. And I always prefer when an artist makes music for THEMSELVES, because it’s the most emotional and authentic, and what’s the best thing about music other than being emotionally moved? That’s why I listen to music anyway
She's not a difficult woman she is saying I'm doing me for a change can't a woman do that without being branded??!!
@@chrisboone8569 right, that's the point lol a "difficult woman" is a trope that she's playing into. it doesn't mean she's literally difficult.
I believe the critiques are so divided because Taylor gave no shits and was so raw with the album, which for me is something good and I love it
The difference between the recording time of folk-more and TTPD is that folk-more was mostly written during the pandemic when she had a lot of free time to write and refine her work, while TTPD was recorded mostly during The Eras Tour which gave her a little less time to make truly spectacular material.
Which is why it's mediocre
@@Dojafishexactly. I mean, that can be the reason TTPD isn’t great, but it doesn’t excuse that fact. TTPD just isn’t good.
However, TTPD IS spectacular. Her best work to date. If you cannot hear this, that’s on you, the quality is there.
But it's actually brilliant and I think it could be her best, it's too early to say, I still have to listen to it more. If you take the time to listen to the album over than 2 times you might see it is sooooo good.
@@DojafishYou can say "I think it is mediocre" but you CANNOT say "it is mediocre". THAT is NOT A VERIFIABLE FACT. I can say "I think you are a moron" but I cannot say "you are a moron". Language MATTERS.
great video! i also think that the eras tour seriously added to said overexposure. I’m also have curious to see what the tpd’s tour will look like and what the setlist will be, since this is a slower and quieter album.
I dont think there will be another tour this tour still got another year
she added TTPD to the Eras Tour.
This is such an excellent and measured response, especially compared to what a lot of critics are saying. I do think the album could have been cut down or reorganised to tell a more cohesive story (at the same time as wanting all of these songs to be out there and available 😅)
I do agree that TTPD could've had much better editing, she could've switched many of the standard version tracks with anthology tracks and it would've fared much better, especially under the eyes of non-swifties. Like seriously, why are The Black Dog, Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus and I look in people's windows deluxe tracks? She knows that well written songs like these will be appreciated by the public
I've been watching a lot of reaction videos to the album so I've been experiencing it in order over and over and I like the anthology B side more as a whole because there's more songs I will personally replay but listening to it all the way through made me realize that I think the placement is on purpose in terms of storytelling. and I think the choices make sense for that reason.
and also to give people breaks so some of the more upbeat songs are put in there specifically in a spot to add some levity.
I also think the first half is more like reliving and expressing and getting out all that rage and then the second half is more like reflection and softer and after it's over.
It’s mixed bc ppl are at a point with Taylor where they feel she’s TOO HIGH AT THE TOP and needs to be brought down hard. Even so called fans have started agreeing, and as a Swiftie would DISAGREES with that treatment, it really pisses me off.
People throw rocks at things that shine indeed
I've heard these so called fans start to comparing her to McDonald's, which is so stupid, or wish her to stop writing songs all together. Like Wtf!? As a swiftie, trust us, we do NOT need more people to like Taylor. Go enjoy what you like. Let others enjoy what they like.
I have no idea how others received it or why…. I can only speak for myself. It’s my favorite album and I never would have thought that possible. It’s magnificent.
This was really well put
But is it the general public that's not fucking with this album or just a loud minority of people on social media who already don't like Taylor? Cause I think we seem to be confusing the former with the latter...
Not true at all
@@ShawnBloomits true very much. All the people who joined hate train during nfl have suddenly became Taylor Swift music riviewer as if they always listened to her music.
Even people who like Taylor Swift criticized this album. And the serious press, which praised Folklore to the heavens, also rated this album worse. And these people definitely have their arguments. These are not general haters. I have the feeling that some fans really don't manage to show the slightest degree of objectivity. Just because you're a fan doesn't mean you should blindly defend everything. This album isn't bad, but it's just not as good quality or innovative as some of its predecessors. It's not a bad thing and it's the logical consequence if you don't take the time to really concentrate on it, but record it alongside a world tour.
@mackay5449 Really... which artists do you consider yourself a fan of? Do you have any critiques of their music/artistry? Can you say that any of them have made a mid or bad album? I ask this because I've seen this sentiment spewed out over and over again yet there seems to be an exception to this rule for certain artists and... idk perhaps my least favorite thing about this whole discourse is the hypocrisy and insincerity I'm seeing.
Saw a lot of negative review about her BILLIONAIRE status, lovelife and jet setter life instead of her MUSIC.🤔Posting and deleting review after a 20-30min of her Album release etc... And you wonder why the die hard swifties are pressed? 🙄 No problem about the criticism as long as they are OBJECTIVE ~👌
The anthology is everything i ever wanted
I don’t think it’s ever bad to ever have lore in music. Great example is twenty one pilots. They have so much lore and you have to be a big fan to understand it and a lot of their songs (especially new ones). They are pretty popular, but they are nowhere near Taylor Swift level of popularity. If they did, I’m sure they would get criticism for being too cryptic and too lore focused. A lot of people criticize her just because of how popular she is and I think that is so unfair.
Honestly some of the best 20th century artists has lore like TOP and Taylor does on their albums.
Everything about this video is ON POINT. You blur the lines between subjectivity and objectivity to make a point that's really hard to refute.
I generally agree. The only thing I disagree with is the "It's not a 31 track album" argument. Because in the places where most people listen to music nowadays, Spotify and Apple Music, it is. The Anthology has all 31 songs. And it does make it difficult to listen to it properly because there isn't a proper "break".
You explained so well how the sound in tortured poets closes sounds from Joe eras. I had the inkling but I wasn't able to put words to it because I was missing the Joe constant. My soul can rest now. XD
99% of the songs are about Matty, not Joe... I love this album but it was little to do with Joe 😂
7 songs are for JOE
@@celmargret4451 I can see maybe four, but even if it's 7, out of 31... Not much about him...
@@SammyTeal A lot of her fears on the relationship possibly ending and the ultimate downfall of it can be found in her other albums, especially Midnights. I think this is mostly the immediate aftermath, which inevitable focuses on Matty since he promised her everything she was missing
@@empressfreya9872 she's been writing songs about Matty all the way back to the OG 1989, girl's been carrying a torch for a looooong time. The official line is that he ghosted her, bounced because the media scrutiny got too much, but I should think anyone within the fanbase would be aware of the intense pressure and disapproval that was going on at the time. Swifties did not want her with someone like him and she gave in to keep her America's Sweetheart image intact - songs like 'but daddy i love him' and 'i hate it here' give an insight into how she feels about the situation
this video was so well written. kudos
This was a great video! Thank you!! Most videos will be very one sided and refuse to take other perspectives into account. I found this very informative and leaving it up to us to decide what we think!
They are just gonna criticize you anyway but Taylor is doing what she does best which is creating music!
"Should I roll the stone away? They're going to crucify me anyway..."
Creating music not create good music. I think quality control is severely lacking in this album
@@tungochuyfans (me) are gonna eat up every single track and it's doing massive numbers. She might not need it as of today, but maybe someday she will.
I haven't gone through the whole albums yet but it sounds like folklore and Midnights had a baby. TTPD sounds a lot like Lana Del Ray. It just feels like something we've heard before. I'm praying to whatever is out there that her next release is something out of her comfort zone like rock.
I really don’t understand the Lana comparisons at all. I feel like every time TTPD is brought up, so is Lana. But the music sounds nothing like Lana, regardless of Jack working on multiple projects. Lana is very influential but I just don’t here and nobody provides specifics, just that it’s Lana reminiscent
I don't get why people insist that every new release must be different from the sounds that came before.
The majority of artists stay in their lane without getting these criticisms.
ironically the video on the right at 22:22 explains why the video maker disagrees with you lmao
Taylor's closing monologue from Miss Americana :
" We live in this society where women in entertainment are discarded in an
elephant graveyard by the time they're 35.
The female artists that I know of have
reinvented themselves 20 times more
than the male artists. They have to. Or
else you're out of a job.
Constantly having to reinvent.
Constantly finding new facets of yourself
that people find to be shiny.
"Be new to us."
"Be young to us."
"But only in a new way. and only the way we want."
"And reinvent yourself, but only in a way
we find to be equally comforting, but also a challenge for you."
"Live out a narrative that we find to be
interesting enough to entertain us, but not so crazy that it makes us uncomfortable.'. "
@@craidenmaldonado590true , Taylor singing doesn't sound like lana at all. Her songs like sad beutiful tragic, white horse are what it reminds of . Country - pop Taylor mix. Not lana at all.
The anthology is an anthology. The standard version is the MOST cohesive album with a very clear storyline
OH MY GOD 2026 IS IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS HOLY SHIT
Great music and video! I love this!
The best explanation ever for this album.
Yes! Listening to TTPD is like talking to Taylor when she's a little drunk and pretty sad but still a bookworm and smartypants who she never stops to be. She's just revealing her feelings to you but in her usual somewhat cringey funny elegant and overdramatic manner. I think Taylor as an artist got to a point where she can just be herself for a minute and let public do the work of understanding if it's good or bad or genius.
Also ttpd feels like a big closure somehow, like she's finished a pig chapter of her live, and said everything she wanted to say abt it.
And it's also the most reflective work of hers, trying to embrace the pros and cons of being Taylor Swift.
Her personality, after all, one of the most interesting parts of her art, cause she's childish and naive and overdramatic but brilliant and smart at the same time, so big and loud yet so quiet and sad, petty and generous, bookwormish yet loving to party and being observed. So in terms of showing who she really is ttpd is priceless
I 100% agree with all of your conclusions💯 Thanks for summarising my thoughts.
Great video and Analysis. I agree that the album will be appreciated later on that’s what happened with RED.
TTPD dethroned 1989 as my favourite album which held its spot for 10 years. This album is genius and such a beautiful ode to feminine rage. First listen I was so awestruck with having a new album that I didn’t take much notice of the music itself. Upon second, third and fourth listen I started the get it and now almost 3 weeks later, it’s the only thing I’ve been playing on repeat. It’s cohesive in its theme of pining after someone whilst feeling trapped in a relationship, followed by undergoing scrutiny for her choices and her thoughts during public moments whilst heartbroken, then ending with moving forward into a new relationship and forgetting the past whilst calling out the music industry as a whole in its recycling of treating women the same as those that come before them
I agree with virtually everything you said except for TTPD not being suited to touring- the ttpd set has quickly become one of my absolute favorite parts of the Eras Tour. It’s so theatrical and dramatic it makes my theatre kid heart sing/ calls back to her country days w how much storytelling you can pick up on
Great video! My issues with TTPD are exactly that my expectations weren't met. I don't think it's bad, most songs are really good, but I'm having a hard time reframing everything. The more I listen to Fortnight, the more I like it. Maybe TTPD should've been a visual album, at least the standard version, because I truly believe those songs benefit from individual contemplation.
thats such a great reviewwwwwwwwwwww i loved it!
I would love to see her do a whole album of collars which would allow her to touch so many different sounds and genres
Lead singer of Disturbed even took up for her at one of their shows imagine a collab between them how completely off the hook that would be!!!!!
Also imagine if there was a collab between Beyonce and Taylor ….. I’m actually not a huge Beyonce fan but I’d be all over that
The funny thing is everyone seems to assume that she's portraying herself as a tortured poet. Just listening to the title track alone lets you know that she's being ironic.
It's ok if someone doesn't like it. It's totally fair. Push backs bring out the best in artists and there are valid constructive criticisms that I think Taylor should take into consideration for her next project (like working with new producers)
But majority of the criticisms I've seen lack any real critical thinking. Just bad faith arguments, stan twitter talking points, and always bringing up her billionaire status.
Personally, the more I listen to it the more I love this album. However, I do think that she should've released the anthology maybe a week later or better yet, a fortnight later.
😅 yeah a lot of the critiques come from just the name and the marketing alone people saying that it's ridiculous that a rich white billionaire is acting like she's tortured but she's literally deconstructing it, making fun of it, and critiquing it the entire album.
the problem is that most of those people haven't even heard it and even if they have they all kind of assumed from a misogynistic standpoint that she isn't smart enough to do anything like that.
they just think she has nothing interesting to say and they talk about her as if she's pretending to be a teenager still in all of her music. the public perception is quite crazy how different it is from reality.
This is one of the most on the nose responses to the reviews (and ultimately a review within itself). You touch on sooooo many points about this album that I’ve picked up on, but have yet to see any of the reviews from either fans or critics pick up on. And I’ve been wanting to shout about these points, so I can’t tell you how rewarding it is to experience your acknowledgement of these. Namely 1.) that she does employ a new sound 2.) the new sound being this western sound (though I think you can elaborate further here) 3.) that this album has a few inter-connecting themes and (3b) the exacerbation that her relationship to mega fame has on the other themes (heartbreak, isolation, and concluding unfinished thoughts that have begun on prior projects and eras). Also 4.) how the EXTREME variation in rankings, reviews, preferences in sounds on the albums, and thoughts on lyricism refute one of the very consistent criticisms of this album sounding overly cohesive. I could go on and on but I digress.
Last point: despite my vehement love for this review, I don’t emphatically declare this album as her best work as others do. It has valid criticism and I would probably rank it (w the anthology) as 4th or 5th for me. With out the anthology at 6th or 7th. And just the anthology as 3rd or 4th. So overall mid to upper-mid
i hope her next album, whenever we get it, is a whole new sound for the same reason you said: we've tied up all the loose ends and finished this chapter in her life, its time to move onto the next and start a chapter where you DONT need to know all the lore of her life to fully appreciate it. i think once we get to that point, people will start appreciating her again... or not, who really cares lol
critics and haters dont realize their efforts to discredit her only makes her stronger.
I wish she would work with Max Martin again. I'm kinda tired of the Jack albums
That's unlikely to happen, especially after SIO trial and MM's admission
did u miss the point of the video?
Honestly I don’t mind more songs with Jack I just want her to work with other producers beside him and Aaron. A Dev Hynes produce Taylor album would be cool lmao. Or maybe even a rock album produced by St, Vincent!
16:21 hardly disagree on this, if anything she's making it way more obvious, now doing direct (and cringey) references to names, places and events
I love Taylor's music, and TTPD is one of my favorite albums alongside folklore, evermore, Red Tv and Midnights. She is a whole genre by herself.
I suspect that most people (including me!) listen to a song and a few of the lyrics (the hook) to decide if they like it. Then it takes repeated listening (or reading the lyrics) before the "story" is understood. Does this apply to you?
Excellent summary. TTPD is my favorite album of all time. I have come to like all 31 songs, and I love all but 2. (Robin and Windows have grown on me, but I could live without them.)
I wish I understood why so many people refer to certain lyrics as "cringy". It's probably one of those things where you either get it or you don't, and I don't. But I'm wondering if there might be any plausible way to argue that they are objectively bad or, at least, some way to explain in objective terms, why the lyrics feel cringy to so many people. Is there, for example, something related to age. I'm 66yo so maybe I'm missing some context that the younger generations share. If so, that would be an example of an objectively measurable factor (a survey would show a statistically significant difference between generations). Something similar could be said for male/female or memberships in other fandoms. (I'm a swiftie, but this is the only fandom I've ever been in. Prior to Taylor, "fandom" just wasn't a thing for me.) Anyway, sorry, I'm starting to ramble.
Setting aside the "quality" of the record, I'm tired of hearing that it is a double album. It's not. You do not see two albums in the streaming platforms, you see the Standard one, and the 30+ song version. Obviously it is so she can capitalize as many streams as possible for a single album, but it's just such a chart obsessed tactic that it overshadows any kind of "artistic vision" behind the "double album" gimmick.
The voice narrating this video is too robotic and no pauses when there are ends of sentences or commas. Is this an AI voice ?
I think it is.
This is a fair review but I don't know the lore or her previous music inside out. Yet I absolutely love TTPD. This is the first album in years that I have wanted to listen to it every day. I get something new from it on every listen. Lots of critics of the songs on the album seem to be misunderstanding them. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to be an artist and to be misjudged by people who totally miss the point (although some of Taylor's songs give me a clue).
taylor is always 3 steps ahead of the critics
The reason it is mixed is because a lot of people just give it one or two listens and then judge it. After 4 listens I am finding it better each time, and omg, when I first heard the album I was thinking 'wow, this isn't very good', lol, now I'm like 'this could be her best ever!!'. Even top critics have recanted what they first said about the album saying they spoke too quick and the album has 'grown' on them lol. I find the whole thing interesting, because those who think it is bad really do think it is bad lol.
9:20 its not done we haven't got rep TV and debut TV yet
The album is messy to say in the least amount of words. There is some songs that are quite good but there isn’t enough good to great songs to make this her best album let alone a great album in her discography.
I truly believe that part of it is that she is still working with Jack solely. Yes Aaron had made an appearance but they are kind of yes manish for her. Sonically it sounds different for those who listen to music fairly casually but Jack’s synth is unmistakable.
I would be more content for her to only release the best she wrote for this album and maybe the other songs that weren’t cohesive as an EP or a separate album.
For anybody who says art is subjective you are wrong. There is a little truth to it. Art is subjective in matters of taste and only taste. For the most part art is objective especially when you get more specific in each field.
Also if you like the album that’s great but don’t tell MUSIC critics that they are wrong. They have studied music longer than most. Swifties need to let up on their parasocial relationship they have with Taylor Swift.
I love all her music!
I see the line in waolom about teeth as another nod to the themes of being in a mental hospital in the album. It was a very common procedure to pull teeth to treat mental illness in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. So they took out her teeth because she was going mad.
When did Taylor say she began recording rep tv in late 2022?
She is still relatable
Awesome take. Very good analysis. My favorite line, “Taylor is one of the only artists who you need to know the lore to fully comprehend her work. And this leads to a massive disconnect between her fans appreciating the lyrics and the general public not getting it.”
Love your take
Hmmm…Criticized by the public, praised by the fans? Led Zeppelin would smirk.
I appreciate this take!
in the context of what she called "clunky" some of them fit the song, green was the colour of the grass fits the song, i come back stonger than a 90s trend, I LOVE THE TOURTERED POETS AND WHY DO ALBUMS HAVE TO BE THE SAME, its meant to be abt feelings ok
Even though I don't really like taylor swift's music, I don't think the lines seen at 6:33 are considered cringey or corny, I actually love these lines, I see it as awkward but quirky, cute and cheeky in a good way, though I think many don't think so, which is fine, everyone has their own opinions (ᵕ-ᴗ-)
She making a mediocre album telling with hiden meaning of "i dont care if you tell me this album is mediocre"
It doesn't matter this album she wrote for herself not for anyone else
bruh lover is my favourite albummmm
I got introduced to Taylor with Starlight and Wildest Dreams and loved it.
Then there was Reputation that irritated me for a moment, but I loved it even more after that.
Then came ME! and I could not stand it and didn't even bother with Lover.
Until there was Folklore. This really hit me at a perfect time perfectly, being one of my favorite albums not just by her but in general. It also made me re-listen older albums, like the entirety of Red and 1989 and Fearless. And I also listened to Lover and it's now second on my favorite list (or third, depending on my mood/day :D).
I liked Midnight very much in Writing and good enough in Sound to like it a lot as well.
Just the tortured poet department... I guess I am not a Swifty enough to get something out of just lore. I really don't like the way it sounds - like a slightly less good enough than Midnight - and I can't find the redeeming qualities that Midnight had for me in Lyrics and Melodies - and cool weird tracks like "Midnight Rain".
I listened to five songs. Then decided, well, I guess I am not in the right mood, came back a few days later, listened to the tracks one to eleven and then gave up on the album (for now). Yes I know, "You didn't even finish". No, I don't need to force myself through two hours, if I didn't like the first third. And yes, I can be patient and get hooked by a story. I love the 10 minute version of "All Too Well".
It is not that I think it is a bad album per se. I just personally don't like the sound and the writing doesn't save it for me. And I really wanted to like it, was very hyped.
I think I was expecting a folklore-ish sound/style, given the title and also the aesthetic. Speaking of the title: The title track really killed it for me. I get now that it's apparently meant tongue and cheek. (Although the way it is sung did not really give it away in my opinion.) But why use it as the title track then? It's almost as if she deliberately tried to set the wrong expectations.
Sorry for the rant. I was just very much looking forward and am now pretty disappointed. And maybe someone finds himself in this.
Wow, I was very impressed by your reaction to this album, which I honestly believe is her best to date. I wish that alot lot more of the general public and the nay negative sayers could hear how well you put this review of ttpd. It was more thought-out, well understood, and what I felt was unbiased critique. I believe your review of this album was better than any of the most respected reviews. Wich I felt that most just read the track list and went with that or listened to maybe a song or two and judged from that, and I mean judged, not reviewed.
Get ben shapiros video out of here. He doesn't know a good opinion if you gave him one to say. In his video he literally says that he has not listened to it yet but says its childish and annoying
I LOOOOOVE LOVE LOVE THIS VIDEO !!! exactly my thoughts ❤️❤️
The take on the video just confirms what I thought on the album.
not a fan here, I like a couple of songs here and there, folklore was her peak for me and the moment where I thought I would like her. anyhow I consider myself PG regarding her. As an artist I found her latest albums lacking as those that artists do when they want to finish contracts, very uninspired and just to meet the quota.
I tried to listen to the first part of TTPD, and just as previous works after evermore I can barely diferientiate them. musically speaking the album tried at some points but was very very lacking, for lack of a better phrase it gave me blue balls.
Lirically for me is simple if you are not swiftie and are not into the lore you will not get it, if you don't care about her life you will feel zero attraction to the lyrics, objectively some are laughable.
I will not talk about her on a personal level too much, I will just say their attitude to feed the fire of her fandom is irresponsible.
Her fandom is something that is vicious and toxic, I understand that a lot of people feel seen with her music that is ok, the problem is when the entirety of the personality revolves around liking her and every criticism are deemed as personal.
on her latest album I only kind of liked florida due to florence although it seemed like a song out of the florence album Lungs, so I liked it for nostalgic purposes.
for me I was hesitant on listening to her after midnights and at this points I am ready to move on. I have no intention on following her music anymore unless I hear something really interesting from her just as it happens when I heard cardigan.
The “Joe albums”? Should I be stalking her like that?✨💀✨ I wanna be hip to the background, but like…how close should I be looking REALLY? Is there a TL;DR for the Swift lore?
This album really only caters to her and the fans that supports her no matter what she releases which explains why I and the general public don't get the "masterpiece" claim.
Since the release of TTPD, I haven't listened to any other songs/albums. This is my favourite album of her, replacing Red!!!!
4:06 this is so true.
6:32
I've been utterly disappointed by Taylor although I've been a fan for over a decade. Lover was ok to me, not my strongest liking nor a hate one.
Midnights is my least favorite album cause the sound/production is boring, sleepy and feels unfinished with no progression. The 70s aesthetic and the mystery surrounding the sound were misleading imo. Speak Now TV was another let down cause of the production. 1989 TV as a whole is the worst thing I've encountered as a TS fan.
While waiting for TTPD, the whole vibe was giving me 1910s-1920s and having no lead single or snippet yet again I thought we'd be getting a sound similar to "the lakes" or Lana's "Young and Beautiful" or "Born To Die" and I was so up for it. Listening to the first 5 tracks was a stab in my back once again for choosing this pile of trash synthpop (which I love when done right, I just don't think Taylor/her collaborators can do). But almost the rest of the tracklist, are amazing, like I love it so much, if we exclude the atrocity "I Can Do It With A Broken Heart". Another example of a song that starts of promising, starting out great and then the chorus comes and I'm like "WTF is this noise?" Then comes the epic "THE SMALLEST MAN WHO EVER LIVED" and I died dead omg.
I took some time to listen to the Anthology so I could absorb the first 16 and damn I loved the majority of them. 11 out of 16 is pretty good imo. With her previous works, I would skip maybe 1-2 per album and most of the times none but the more she does, the more tracks I skip. The Anthology for example has some songs I do love but some others that I find kinda odd. There are some lyrics that in my ears do not go good with the melody as if she's trying hard to fit them in which I never liked.
All in all, this album is high on my list and even the songs I didn't like had strong potential if the production had been different.
I think people are taking their criticisms overboard. You made a good point about shifting her songwriting from equally focused on melodies and lyrics to mostly focusing on lyrics and kind of throwing melodies to the wind on some of these ttpd tracks. Personally it's not my cup of tea but I'll stick to my favorite of her albums (rep, lover, folklore). people just have to go crazy with their hate
I commented before listening to all of this. I couldn’t disagree more that this doesn’t break new ground. I won’t defend it, it doesn’t need it.
They're gonna crucify me anyway~
EERRRMM , because it's shit. The tracks are not hanging around ......
TUN was made in 6 months, not 2 weeks
I actually really disliked this album but I do think you make a great point -- all of her albums (except Folklore, which is my personal favorite, and Evermore to an extent) received criticism at first. Personally, I do tend to agree with the critics most of the time, but an example is that at first I didn't like Midnights because synth pop is NOT my sound, but it has really grown on me a lot recently. I didn't get it at first, but maybe 6 months after the release it's moved into my top 5 TS albums.
Well I don't think Taylor Swift is capable of making a bad album fortnite was good what part of the problem was with the production in the second song tortured Poets Department was an excellent track but you would never know it because it had no drum parts department sounds like they were too tired to make a really good album because they were on tour but this album is definitely not terrible but it's definitely not one of Taylor's best albums
TTPD wouldn't break records without an already big fandom, past releases and the eras tour, that's why Fortnight flopped.
Taylor didn't make this album for the mass general audience but for the true fans. People are going to judge her either way and at almost 20 years into her career she's just making music for herself now.
I disagree at 10:49 ... in my first intial listen i was still able to point out which ones stood out to me amd kept me coming back, so if it didnt stick out to me whether melodically, lyrically, whatever.... then they sounded similar. the anthology was way too similar for me to like the project sorry not sorry
Excellent exploration of her albums and their receptions.
As someone who loves this album, it definitely needed some pruning. Like the standard should have been 14 or so tracks and the Anthology should have been like 8 or something. I do think for next album she should definitely switch genres and not have as many tracks, sorta like 1989.
Who care the critics can say qll they want shes singing all the way to the bank!
I love the albums, and couldn’t care less what other people say!
You can't just listen to it once. You need to actually listen to the words and the meaning behind them.
This album is definitely not about Joe. Maybe 1 or 2 songs. This is mostly about Matty Healy
Don't care team taylor always!!!!!
70% Jack Antonoffs Fault
30% Tays fault
Why its mixed
Album felt rush compared to folklore/evermore it took less than a year yet the poetry is superior compared to TTPD which she said 2 years.
Jack? Arent we already tired of his production where 3 Other Artists collabs with him for an entire era (Lana which her last 3 album sounds the same)
estoy de acuerdo
17:38 This is so sad, defining her work by who was her boyfriend at the time, it’s 2024 haven’t we learned ANYTHING about feminism 🙄
Taylor plays many different genres so she will miss a few fans every time depending which genre she plays on that album.
You did a video on Dua about the expectation of reinvention yet you want Taylor to reinvent? lol
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i hate the term cohesive its annoying
so they’re giving it bad reviews because it’s not like kanye
The songs about her love life, I totally relate, I know exactly what she's talking about, in a couple of songs it's like she's singing my life... not saying, she knows me in the singing about me lol I'm just saying if I had to write a song, down bad, would definitely be one of them
And then the songs about Matty with his drug addiction, anyone who has dated or married and drug addict, they can relate .
its so dissapointing how she seemingly peaked with folklore and evermore. midnights and ttpd have been extremely dissapointing when its obvious she's capable of making good music, she just doesnt care to
Again... Taylor has written TTPD to end this era of her
life. She stated "the story is
not mine anymore" per the
Manuscript.
Taylor will be focused on
bigger and better things in
her life. Now she is DONE
with the K family. I wish her
the best of everything in the
future. GoTay📿 TNT