Americans guess the cost of British healthcare
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2020
- “We can afford it, as a country, to take care of each other. These procedures that cost thousands of dollars just aren’t as expensive everywhere else.”
Healthcare in the US is extortionately expensive. We asked people in Dallas, Texas how they feel about it.
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I have had 23 years of cancer treatment - five operations including three heart procedures - I attach my medical bill below :-
£0000.00 God bless the NHS .
You had me in the first half ngl
i take it you dont work then
@@hugoagogo2307 Poeple who have cancer work. I have a family member who is hard as nails when it comes to working whilst having cancer. Various surgical procedures and therapy treatments. He also competes in amatuer sports for charity. Yea not everyone is able to do those things whilst they're sick but you can't just take it someone don't work. Back under the bridge troll!
@@charlottejohnson5412 Think you Were Missing the point entirely (woosh) "£0000.00 God bless the NHS " the only way this is possible is if you do not work and have never payed National Insurance THE NHS IS NOT FREE .Back under the bridge troll!
@@hugoagogo2307 I think they might be talking about medical bills on top of national insurance but i don’t really know.
The fact that they're insured and that still doesn't cover them is absolutely criminal.
It applies risk factors like life insurance. Some people with important jobs get better insurance just because of their jobs aswell which is also capitalism crap I cant stand.
But I'm British so I'm not 100%
@@TS-oz3ec 66% of the medical bankruptcy are insured americans....so youre fucked either way haha. Idiots would rather get 500 dollars deducted from their checks from insirance than pay a slight increase in taxes. Add on the deductibles copay and Americans pay way more than a slight tax increase to provide healthcare. Also the lay offs from the pandemic lefts millions uninsured. Thats what happens wgen you tie employment to jobs as well. Such a dumb system.
That's the first rule of insurance, isn't it? The cover includes everything except what you're claiming for!
You said spot on
Ikr, what's the whole point of insurance at this point.
One of the most heartbreaking stories I ever heard was an American doctor. He explained that when he went into oncology he thought having to tell parents their child was going to die would be the lowest point he could reach. He said it wasn't even close. Turns out having to tell parents that their child doesn't need to die, but will because they can't afford treatment and don't have insurance is much worse. Then having to sit and watch them do the maths, if they sell everything they own and literally bankrupt themselves, how many extra days can they get.
God bless America
@@lesleymcleod3447 I don't think he does much.
If someone invented a cure for cancer, and it cost millions to produce, should a country tax the entire population to the point everyone can't afford food in order to pay that massive price in order to cure every cancer patient?
Or would it make more sense to need to reduce the cost before it's financially viable to give it to everyone?
One day that treatment they couldn't afford will be as cheap as aspirin is now.
But it's not that cheap now, that's not a fact that can be changed by how much suffering an illness causes. It's something people have to understand. We're all born in this world as weak fleshy creatures who never know what could kill them.
The idea a government can even have the power or ability to make nothing bad every happen to anyone like you seem to be implying they should do, is just not realistic.
@@ge2719 The cost of treatment does raise ethical questions about who you can afford to treat and health services do have a limit on how much they can spend on treatments. The age and future life expectancy of the patient does feed into this. Ideally you would treat everyone, but practically that may not be possible, however it is at least relatively fair for all. Arguably finding a cheap cure for cancer would be even more of an economic disaster, I've heard argued it would actually be the greatest disaster that could befall mankind. If everyone could be cured then the number of old people in the population would increase massively and the working population would be unable to support the huge increase in cost of care, leading to massive economic problems and shortages for everyone.
@@ge2719 What? I agreed with EVERYTHING until "We're all born..." onwards, I see what you got at now. That makes no sense, unless you're talking about specific technologies and treatments which rightfully cost their price, as the cost to produce and make them is very expensive.. And it doesn't account for the many, many other things that cost tens of thousands - or even thousands - while being something as simple as getting a doctor to look at your shoulder injury. Do you live in the US? Because only that would really make sense, for the fierce defense of a clearly unnecessarily-flawed medical system.
Europeans: So how do you manage to survive if you can’t afford to pay your healthcare insurance?
Americans: *that’s the neat part you don’t*
Just go to Mexico for healthcare lol.
By working at a strip club, as the lady said.
Healthcare is free here in Australia.
😭
You get INSURANCE
The fact that Americans think it's normal and ok to be charged thousands for a ambulance call out is crazy
And then they'll say something stupid like: "An ambulance isnt a taxi to the hospital"... LIKE HUH?!?! THATS LITERALLY THE PURPOSE OF AN AMBULANCE!!
It sort of shows that competition and the market are not working in this industry. Wonder why?
I’m American and I think paying what we do for healthcare is absolutely fucking insane!
In Australia, i havent paid for check ups or help with infections etc for a long time. I had to have a brain scan a while back and it was like $50 or less. USA sounds mental and I don't get why people see it as a benefit not having free general for all and cheaper more serious stuff more alittle extra. Then again, USA minimum wage is like 3 times less than what we pay 14 years old, its all crazy
But it is normal. To them. I’m not sure why that’s blowing your mind.....
The NHS is one of the greatest things the uk has, we need to treasure it.
evidence? i had to deliver my own kid because the so called wonderful NHS refused us entry twice - then the paramedics came late and the nurses came very late - shocking system needs a complete overhaul.
@@James_36 Doesn't need an overhaul, it just needs funding. It's been lacking money for years now so it's no wonder it's struggling.
I'm sure there are some parts of it that do need overhauling but we can't properly identify those until it has the money it needs to properly function
@@reddragon3132 more funding? It gets more fundin and throws it down the drain, it has more than enough money when it is hiring diversity managers
@@James_36 go private then. both my kids delivered well and fine! did you go to the right door?
@@James_36 I don't think the hiring of Diversity Managers is making any real difference to the budget of the NHS. As far as I'm aware, a minority of NHS Trusts employ one Diversity & Inclusion Manager, and they earn between £30,000 and £50,000 each. Their role is also fairly broad, and research from Middlesex University shows promotion of 'inclusion' by NHS leaders increases both provision of care and organisational performance.
What is putting a financial strain on the NHS however, is fragmentation. Successive legislation through both Labour and Conservative (and coalition) governments over the last 3 decades has split the NHS into regional units which have "commissioners" and "providers", forcing the NHS to behave more like a business and less like a public service. These regional so-called Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) have the authority to decide which NHS services to pay for, and which organisations to pay to provide them - a choice which includes both NHS organisations, and third-party, for-profit healthcare corporations.
NHS England, a QUANGO led by Simon Stevens tasked with 'optimising management' of the NHS, and has nothing to do provision of care, has promoted the implementation of Integrated Care Systems (ISCs) (previously known as Accountable Care Organisations), which puts funding decisions into the hands of management consultancy firms like Deloitte and Capita, who are tasked with increasing 'efficiency and sustainability', which they do by making allocations of funding for care provision on an actuarial basis, and contracting mostly American 'health systems support' companies who divert much of the NHS funding stream to private profits for third party providers. ISCs were legislated for in the Health and Social Care Act 2012, although presently their existence must be permitted by local authorities and regional NHS organisations, NHS England has proposed legislation which would make ISCs statutory bodies by April.
It's true that the NHS needs more funding, but it also needs the implementation of an NHS Reinstatement Bill to re-centralise the funding pool, and stop money being thrown down the drain as you put it, into the coffers of private providers and management consultants, and to abolish the inherent profit motives of CCGs.
I'm very sorry to hear that the NHS didn't provide you with the care you needed when you needed it, and I'm afraid I'm sure that your experience is not a unique one, however that isn't a failure of the original tenet of the NHS - providing care to everyone free at the point of delivery, but a failure of its subsequent corporatization.
Edit: spelling correction.
It is absolutely mind boggling how the US can claim to be "the greatest country" let alone even a first world country . smdh
They are the definition of a first world country though.
@@paddystrongjaw9995 The US is litterally the most backwards first world country.
@@mateo9467 USA as they say is A third world country with a gucci belt
USA is the richest third world country in the world, that's the best description.
@@lazaromora8263 yet the most in debt
meanwhile in America
doctor: congratulations, the baby is perfectly healthy!
*card declines*
doctor: *sigh* lift up your gown.
XDD
Oh Jesus it’s not that bad
Make a meme out of this🤣🤣🤣
@@dexis1717 don’t
@@jayasmrmore3687 Why??
I'd rather pay a little more in my taxes and help everyone with medical care than pay a small fortune to only help myself.
Edit: This is becoming one of my most contreversial comments. I can't believe the concept of making sure everyone has the right to be treated by a doctor or nurse when in need and not be crippled by debt at the same time is so hard for so many people to accept. The lack of humanity some people have in this matter is honestly repulsive.
That's an Excellent way of putting it.
You don't need to pay a little more in taxes. You need to change what you taxes are spent on. The US military budget is insanely high.
The US actually spends more per head of population on public healthcare than UK does, the total healthcare spending per person (2017) both private and public healthcare was just under £3000 for the UK, the USA spent £7600
Bingo
@@stevenbowers4164 and all of that is BLOAT from health insurance companies
"Americans guess the cost of British healthcare" translates to "one American is told the cost of healthcare"
agree. awful clickbait title and a reporter who only sometimes wear a mask. thumbs down. no sub
This is the kind of news I would like to read in the U.S. (Greetings from Italy🇮🇹, the child's family paid 0€ for this) : A seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin waited for the transplant for 525 days in hospital, connected to an artificial heart. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital.
He waited for the transplant for 525 days in the hospital, connected to an artificial heart, a seven-year-old child successfully operated at the Regina Margherita hospital of the City of Health in Turin. A real record with a happy ending after a year and a half lived thanks to an artificial heart Berlin Heart, the longest implantation time among the little 'heroes' of pediatric cardiac surgery at the Turin children's hospital.
The baby is fine and has already been discharged.
Born in Morocco, in the summer of 2019 the boy began to suffer from symptoms of heart failure. With his mother he joins his father in Liguria and, after a short period of hospitalization in another pediatric hospital, he is transferred by helicopter to the Regina Margherita. Not even the time to enter the cardiac surgery ICU, directed by Dr. Sergio Michele Grassitelli, that his heart stops.
Reanimated and subjected to Ecmo, the extra-corporeal circulation, a few days later an artificial Berlin Heart is implanted which keeps him alive and allows him to recover. The child begins to appreciate Italian cuisine, grows up, learns our language, under the watchful eyes of his father and mother, who in the meantime gives birth to a little brother.
All this for 525 long days, all in hospital, some spent in the premises of Margaret Island, the space for the long-term care of patients of the Oncohematology directed by Professor Franca Fagioli. Then the heart transplant by the team of pediatric cardiac surgeons, headed by Dr. Carlo Pace Napoleone. A very fast recovery, the amazement of waking up without the artificial ventricle lying on the abdomen, connected to a control console that kept him alive but limited him in all actions. A few days of hospitalization among the pediatric cardiologists and the nurses of Dr. Gabriella Agnoletti, followed closely by Enrico Aidala, heart surgeon in charge of the Transplant Program, and in recent days the discharge.
Ikr bad title
Amen tothat. What a joke hey. Avoid this video
My thoughts exactly
I come from an north african " 3rd world country " and we have free health care coverd by national policy , my brother was born with a disease and couldnt eat properly and needed an operation , a really important long one , he did it at the age of 3 years old , and it cost a symbolic price of a 0.25$ admission fees of the hospital.
it is a shame for a country like the US to have a health care system that prioritize money over the life of its citizen, to have people die because they cant afford insulin is something to be ashamed of.
Capitalism and greed runs deep
I agree and I live in the US. 🥲
@@Angeloflight1415_LastelleCrea Same
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
@@calaragazza3556 same for us and it's ok to be able to contribute for the better good
I live in the UK. My healthcare taxes are automatically deducted from my payment. Don't know how much, don't really care because i don't really feel it. In January 2021 I've had a pretty bad case of pneumonia because of COVID. I've been in hospital for about 5 days, with all medicine, food and all afferent medical care included. I've got out of the hospital without having to pay one single penny. Now that's real health care! ❤️NHS❤️
The food isn't exactly Michelin Star though.
@tom201090 well it's not really a michelin restaurant either, is it? I've had worse food in some restaurants to be honest.
@@razvanursache9493 maybe it varies by hospital?
@@tom201090 probably
@@tom201090I'd never complain about free food
Paying into the nhs is a privilege and I’m proud to do so! It’s the greatest part of civilised man, the ability to save someone else’s life.
Then why did your garbage NHS kill so many of its covid patients? You did a bad job saving their lives.
@@fatherson5907
If you’re American, with quarter of a million dead, I’d sit down and keep quite. The nhs were also not responsible for deaths, policy was.
Bonehead with a bonehead comment.
@@fatherson5907 Our NHS kill so many patients? Most of the covid deaths in the UK are due to old age people with immunodeficiency or those who are very sick. The level of healthcare in the UK is excellent and patients get treated well. Also respect those working on the front lines in the NHS, doctors, nurses, surgeons etc. working overtime to ensure everybody is safe. You just cant disrespect the NHS.
@@thwales2520 Don't bother, Father son is a troll and he has been trolling other videos about healthcare systems.
Father son?! Garbage NHS keeps me alive.
People going to Mexico for their healthcare, I think that says a lot.
I have a friend that goes to Mexico every once and a while because he has braces and he got them there, I never understood why he would get them their in the first place, now I know
@@jacobbowness8125 That's based on what? Why would people go to US where you get less quality and more expensive?
@@jacobbowness8125 I'll just let you live in a bubble, there's no reason to argue with a brainwashed american.
I've had friends tell me about that the care in Mexico is typically substandard. I knew someone whose broken leg was cast incorrectly and had to have it rebroken and set as a result. Don't be fooled, everyone is eligible for insurance here, but you have to apply for it. Nothing is free, everything had a cost whether it be by taxpayers or private insurance through employers.
@@jacobbowness8125 best what???? U crazy?????
As someone from third world country, I wanna say we have almost free health care. For instance, my brother once had an operation for his broken legs. The only thing we paid was his medicine (pain meds). We didn't pay for the cost of operation since it was covered in the national health care policy.
which country
Assume uk but could be a European country as well. Edit. Thanks for correcting me. I should’ve done more research before commenting.
@@12Acorns and uk is not european? =))
@@12Acorns The UK isn’t a third world country.
@@12Acorns I assume you are murican for your lack of education.
As you can see, American people WANT change. We know how ridiculous this is, we’ll never win against big pharmaceutical, insurance companies, and the politicians WE vote in
Honestly, lets just restart the states.
@@whyplaypiano2844Have you tried turning it off and on again?
the problem is that there's too many people that don't CARE about it. The amount of people who know how deep this goes is somewhat low and are considered conspiracy theorists. The vote of those people isn’t enough to take out the bad politicians. On the other side, all politicians do is lie, they make promises of change and the only thing they change is how much more money they put in each other's pockets. They won't tell you how bad it is either because if they do then they'll be losing money.
Healthcare is free in most European countries even the poorer countries like Romania its free
Tax payer funded. Nothing is free.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 still cheaper then 5000 for a doctors consultation
@@SpareSomeChange8080 As someone from Romania who broke her leg multiple times and comes from a low income family, I can assure you that by having it funded through tax payer money, we save thousands of dollars in the long run. It is a lot cheaper and lowers the chance of having our Healthcare system turn into a business, like in America.
@@tormclean9657 I understand, and agree, but calling it "free" is a bit cheeky to all the tax payers that fund it.
We have problems of people flying into our country, using our health care because they think "oh it doesn't matter, it's free" when it's actually us that's footing their bills.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 it is free if you don't pay taxes
Treasuring the NHS is probably the only thing that the right wing and left wing in Britain 100% agrees on
Anyone who doesn't should just look at the prices we pay
Learn history, twice labour blocked the NHS introduction...because they hated the law that only those who contributed got access..oh thought the facist socialist types, let's promise the world free health care scream racist at those who disagree and watch while the NHS creeks to collapse while run by numbty lefties types without a clue , now its rationed..just shat labour want, like they did with rationing after WW2..the labour party wanted to continue rationing indefinitely...wonder why.
@@davidnope8653 what?
@@davidnope8653 I'm sorry but I didn't understand a single thing of what you said
@@davidnope8653 its British history labour fuck things up the Tories get voted in to fix it get all the blame then once its fixed people vote labour back in to fuck it all again and then the Tories job is to fix it again. People fail to look at history and just vote labour because there dad told them to or they have a communist as Party leader
The NHS saved my life twice Breast cancer and tumor in my head, I survived both thank you NHS it cost nothing ❣❣😀💙💙💙
@@Turnpost2552 She isn't gaining sympathy points, genius. 🙄
It cost a hell of a lot - you just weren't personally charged for it at the point of use.
No need for a thanks, me a UK tax payer, help pay for your problems.
This is something it is NOT free.
It costs tax payers to keep the NHS.
It is worth every penny.
@@Turnpost2552 ew salty muricans
i am glad you are okay now :)
It's not just health care we get, it's child care, holidays, education .. I couldn't believe that most Americans don't get paid holidays or child care..
Most Americans do get paid holidays, just fewer in number, typically about 10 days per year. The childcare struggle is real, though.
@@StochasticUniverse I'm truly amazed at how much it costs the American people to live.. 10 days is nothing..if you have children most of that will be taken with sick days.... Out of curiousity, how many weeks/months a year are your political members given leave ? I'd wager it's alot more than 10 days..
Funny thing is Americans will go to the mat arguing why they would pay billions in taxpayer dollars for their military but not for national health care.
Thing is, the US and the UK are the only two NATO countries that fund their militaries to the extent agreed.
You benefit from US taxpayers funding their military because their military directly protects you.
@@baldieman64 I think you just strengthened the OP's point. You are defending military spending (which is absolutely fine) but the USA seems to have this opposition to free healthcare like it is some sort of crazy left wing idea. NHS in the UK is completely free at the point of use to anyone. I heard about the girl who died at Sandy Hook and the parents had an $80,000 bill for the ambulance that failed to resuscitate her, the family lost their home to pay the bill. This shouldn't be allowed to happen anywhere in the world, let a lone a country that considers itself the leaders of the free world. The healthcare system in America is not only a massive con but also not very good. Even a US thinktank labelled it the worst healthcare system in the developed world.
@@baldieman64 - What seems even crazier is the huge amount of debt the US has and yet spends vast amounts on its military, as a result infrastructure and a more structured health care system are way down the list of priorities- As someone who has paid into the U.K. health system through normal taxation and national insurance contributions, It feels reassuring that I wouldn’t have to sell my house if I became really ill.
@@rogerbarrett9920 I'm a massive supporter of socialism
@@baldieman64 The USA, UK, Greece and Poland fund NATO USA, Greece and UK above the 2% in order and Poland at 2%.
No one benefits from the USA military, it's a myth that has been created by your political parties, they have a laws that USA spent over $700 billion on the military this year. USA government pays more in tax payers cash to USA healthcare than the UK government does for the whole of the NHS. The USA government can afford to spend on the military, a National Healthcare system and, as other countries do, force the pharmaceutical companies to charge less, and no USA pharmaceutical companies don't invest more into research, it mainly goes to shareholders, a USA study found UK pharmaceutical companies fund more research into drugs etc.
Breaking Bad in Germany: Chemistry teacher Walter White feels unwell, goes to the Doctor, they discover he has Cancer. Treatment starts next week end of story.
Same almost anywhere in Europe.
Then they execute him for being circumcised.
@@ClodiusP No, Germany doesn’t have the death penalty.
@@ClodiusP ????
@@ClodiusP there 's no death penalty in Germany, France or The UK. In fact most of the West has got rid of it. So if he is getting executed anywhere, its in the US.
I went years without insurance and finally got a plan through my new job (at a good company) so I went for a checkup. Basic checkup where the doc looks at your tongue, listens to your heartbeat and does that thing where they tap the little mallet on your knees. Got a bill a month later for almost $300. I called the office and said I think there is a mistake-did my insurance info not go through? Oh yes, they said. You’re insurance covered $115! 😐 total for the visit was $408, $320 of which was the base office visit fee. Robbery.
Sounds like the doctor's office was "out of network" for your insurance. An office visit co-pay for a typical visit should be in the range of $20 to $40, depending on your plan. It's imporant to check to make sure that your doctor is in-network for your specific plan, as they all vary.
@@StochasticUniverse no, I found this dr on my insurance portal! My point is, medical costs are ridiculously high, insurance coverage or no coverage. No professional has any business charging $300+ for a 20 min consultation.
This actually makes me cry and love our NHS even more 💙💙💙💙💙💙
Healthcare in the UK isn’t free. They actually pay more for healthcare per year in taxes. It’s just automatically deducted from their paychecks so they don’t see it. They pay that if they are sick or not.
That last young man's comment was spot on... "people need to be educated on the issue but they just don't want to be". Voluntary ignorance is no way to go through life people...🤔
This is simple ignorance caused by poor education being supplied.
AKA...dumbing down.
Socialism is cancer. Capitalism is the best system ever
@@howler6490 Bruh don't just assume Americans are uneducated. We're preoccupied. The medical field doesn't have a secure enough leash on it so they just rack up the price to what they want. People know this. Nothing US citizens can do but vote, and we're divided by the idea of the far left, and right, but the scheme there is to have us all preoccupied by fighting amongst each other. I lean more conservative and right, but there is always a need for some government control. Even in a capitalistic society. No one is being "dumbed down". It's the fact that were too busy arguing with each other about two political sides that in the end want a similar goal, and both parties know it.
@@alexanderg8466 rofl. capitailsm relies on bail outs from the government claiming they are 'too big to fail"
@@brillsmith2207 lol. That is corporativism a dirty part of capitalism. But I never said that I love capitalism. The best system is far from perfect.
The NHS actually makes me proud to be British
You arent
@@declanferguson1040 my red passport says otherwise, so does my birth certificate. And I’ll make sure I produce more little brown kids too populate Britain.
Why, me and my wife had a miscarriage, 8 hours bleeding in a and e before being seen,Had to wait 6 months for a councillors, had to go private to support my wife as she had a breakdown with no help from nhs. Had a weird blip on my check up, Had to wait 7 months for a hospital ecg. Two week doctors appointments and bankrupting the country and so so inefficient.
And to top it off it ain’t free I pay £396.98 a month in NI contributions. We are literally paying for a over bloated, inefficient government run car crash.
Your proud that you can’t see the position of how it can’t and isn’t sustainable anymore good on you
@@sameaulahad2824 I simpily missed out the question mark, it wasn't intended to be construed like that "You aren't?" as in you already aren't proud. Wtf is that response.
@@declanferguson1040 With that context your comment is understandable. But without it, it makes it seem like you're saying he's not British because of his "foreign" name.
Proud to be an Englishman and being british . I love our American counterparts I feel sorry for their bills bless them🏴🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸
I'm sorry but as a european I find this hillarious. "The insurance company covered big part of the 5k bill. I have REALLY good insurance. But I still had to pay nearly 3k out of my pocket." lol what? That doesn't sound like a "REALLY good insurance" to me. I feel sorry for you guys..
And you give over half of your small paycheck to a corrupt government and get third world garbage in return. And you peasants are celebrating your “free” healthcare.
Rooting for Putin.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
imagine having to pay a bill for the firetruck to come to your house to put out a fire or getting a bill from the police because they stopped someone robbing you. In the rest of the developed world healthcare is seen as an essential service that saves lives just like the police or fire service.
Its more akin to your house being on fire and the firemen refusing to put it out and rescue anyone until the Insurance provider approved the measures to be used based on your policy. "Sorry sir but your insurance policy only covers for one of your children to be pulled from the inferno."
Don't have to imagine too hard. That's the way fire services operated in Victorian times. They were essentially commercial organisations.
@@Hertog_von_Berkshire Good Job we are in the year 2020 where we are wiser and a bit more civilised.
@@Jack-uy7ie We as in not American then!
@@tsu8003 Yes ofcourse. America is still a child in terms of culture and history. Albeit a child with a BFG.
It’s not quite free in the UK for the working man who does pay tax and National Insurance which pays for the nhs BUT it is worth every penny
Rarely needed to use the NHS but I know that one day I will need it, so happy to pay into it
Plus we pay half of what they do and we have one if not the best healthcare in the world (proven by many studies). America pays the most out of any developed nation and still has worse quality of care than most of Western Europe.
Obviously there is a bit more tax but then there’s no insurance to pay for so really your probably spending less and even if u don’t need the quacks u could be helping someone else get treatment
exactly! you wouldnt want to get old and rely on savings your whole life to keep you alive
Your right, nothing is ever free. But it’s a great system. Seems like Americans would rather be ripped of . 5000 dollars for having a collarbone looked at. That is just disgusting.
i dont wanna brag, but i broke my arm like 2 months ago, and everything from the x-ray to the cast and checkups
cost 5$... for the hospital parking...
god bless universal healthcare.
The American Actor Rob Delaney called the NHS, “The Pinnacle of human achievement.” The 8th wonder of the world.
Millions of Americans over the years have gone bankrupt due to ill health costs - that has never happened in the UK - simples in my mind NHS wins hands down.
Once a family is ruined it can take generations to recover and they become a burden on society in any number of ways. If knock backs are shared the comeback is quick and that burden on society might never happen. Its the principal behind a welfare state and social security. It's always threatened by the right wing ethos of survival of the fittest and every man for himself supported by those who reckon bad things will never happen to them or those that actually struggled through without anyone helping them.
@@redf7209 Survival of the fittest does not fit into modern society , neither does everyone having a gun. America has not moved on since the wild west days to enough degree. The sad thing is this Covid19 might change their minds, if not they may have to wait till the next plague. Shared disaster redemption/epiphany is better than everyone for themselves!
But over other healthcare systems it falls behind quite a bit
@@1jackct which are talking about? The NHS of the UK per capita is in fact cheaper to run then the US health system. Sure sometimes you are put on a list for treatment but if urgent you are treated immediately. Thats when there isnt some plague of course.
@@1jackct no it does eat it’s one of the best in the world are u alright?😂
“the NHS is the closest thing the English people have to a religion”, Nigel Lawson
We have NHS in Scotland not just Englistan
@@alemgas I see what you did there but were clamping down
Canadians took a poll to name the greatest Canadian of all time. It wasn't Wayne Gretzky or any other hockey player. It was Tommy Douglas, father of Canada's universal healthcare.
@@kaylajohnny3544 no one cares
Well Nigel is a moron that forget that the UK isn't just England. (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exist.),
So proud of Canadian health care system were you only get to pay 12$ total for the parking
Yessss!
I'd rather pay for a Canadian mortgage than a US hospital fee
I'm a medical biller of a Texan doctor and I can confirm they all saying nothing but facts. Health care in USA is expensive af especially dental and ophthalmological
I feel there are a lot of Americans who prefer the system where they pay a lot to cover themselves rather than a little to cover everyone 🤔
ME ME ME ME ME ME. that what those americans are saying. they would rather pay more, just so they have someone to look down on.
@@itwoznotme They think that you are a communist, when you help others
@@Saasbutter Makes sense. But it's still stupid.
@@luanunes14 You should see some of America. We have a U.S. House of Representative member who says the Rothschilds have a space jew laser and people are defending her
The main problem in the US isn't necessarily directly this (although it certainly does encourage incredible selfishness). Rather, it's the effects of it. Pushing the responsibility to individuals, who within society have comparatively low socioeconomic power, allows big pharma to swindle and charge exorbitant prices. When the same corps are having to deal with governments, surprise surprise those prices come down considerably.
I'm in Australia and I'm happy to pay a small amount extra in my taxes knowing that the person down the road who i don't know will get the help they need. You judge a society not on how many nuclear bombs they have but how well it treats its most vulnerable.
as long as they arent aboriginal eh? :P
Not only the most vulnerable but for everyday mishaps, for example a child hurt at a playground or someone tripping and getting injured on their journey to work. A wealthy nation like the USA with no universal health care is bonkers.
That’s why your country couldn’t win a war or protect yourself that’s why America has to protect you . Your soft , people die that’s life my mom smoked for years and developed cancer and died I love my mom but why should someone have to pay for her bad choices . As Americans it’s understood we hate taxes so for that reason hell no to welfare make good choices and good things happen . Life is meant to end death is not a bad thing it’s a part of life you coward
@@kanedNunable cmon.aboriginals get looked after..its the white man's liquor that's the problem
I just want to commend you on saying how you do pay taxes for your “free” services. Many Europeans neglect that bit of information and simply say their visits are free. The cost of Healthcare is pretty much the same around the world, only difference is how we choose to pay for it. Collectively or Individually. Cost for Healthcare alone in the UK is roughly $7k/yr per person (taxes). It definitely is not free.
when i went to florida and somthing happened to my sister and I which we had to go to the Drs for. it cost us $400-1000 each. Im from the UK so this was crazy
The nhs works two ways of you feel ill and get an early diagnosis your treatment cheaper and more effective. Which means that no worries about cost means recovery is better. That means you can return to work quicker and start contribute to the system.
"5000. My insurance paid most of it. I paid nearly 3000" lmao 😅
I think he means overall not just that one bill
I "walked away" 2 decades ago from a bill for four days in the hospital, with surgery/etc. That was for over $ 40,000 Dollars. Couldn't pay it even if I wanted to. No job, no prospects thereof either. Took me two years of Legal hassle to get them to take it as a tax loss. Two years! Of them threatening me to take me to court! I wish they had in the first 6 months after my stay. Could have saved so much time.
And no, I didn't qualify for Medicaid/Medicare either...
There were no Social programs to fall back on.
The good news is I hear that the wealthy rarely pay their healthcare bills either. But they do pay their Lawyers!
@@ivanivonovich9863 well that was a depressing end:(
I thought he was going to say I paid 300$ hahahha
probably would be helpful if americans had free education then
Comparing the US health care to strip clubs is an insult to strip clubs!
LOL, LOL, LOL, hilarious, but True.
Far fewer people die because of neglectful strippers.
They'd be confused how much to tip the government.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So why is the EU begging us for covid vaccines. Let them die, good riddance!
The thing is, there are also private health care companies in Europe. Those still cost a fraction of what in US. I still find those expensive, I don't use them but it's not like there isn't options for universal healthcare users in those countries. I think it's the universal health care system that keeps the prices down because they know if they raise the prices too high everyone are gonna use the state health services instead.
America itself is a business, there's a reason why they make so many money-focused/aristocratic-focused movies with lines like “This whole country is a strip club. You got people tossing the money, and people doing the dance.” probably because Americans connect with those words... it matches what the one girl said
The American dream WTF
The I love the fact that the taxes I pay as National Insurance, helps me, helps others, and then forms the funds of my state pension. What a brilliant system.
You are entitled to whatever system you think is best for your country. But don’t try to impose your values on us. We don’t want garbage NHS.
@@neekBG3 that is fair. I also love the quality of treatment that I receive from my system.
@@neekBG3 and we here are lucky to have the best research institutions, best hospitals, best medical schools and highest level of medical innovation in the world, despite what the propaganda on these bias videos shows
@@fatherson5907 until you lose a job or dont have insurance and cant afford some treatment ahhhhh then you will feel the depths of the inequality and injustic of the system. When you feel it on your own skin. When you are refused basic treatment from people who take an oath to do no harm and system that is supposed to be about peoples health, then you will wake the F up. land of the free indeed, free to be ripped off .
@@fatherson5907 Say that to one of your citizens who die from lack of funds to pay.
I lived in the USA for 12 years in the 1980’s My daughter cost 5000 when she was born. I made sure I got jobs with health insurance but it never covered everything. We are lucky to have the NHS.
Wow, the 1980s was a long decade apparently!
USA: Pay us to have your babu
I’m an American living in South Korea that just had to go through a good friend being hospitalized for what we thought could be appendicitis. An ambulance call (she couldn’t walk without severe pain), consultation, multiple blood tests, X-Rays and 3D X-rays, a COVID test, and eventual hospitalization for one day and night, along with antibiotics, painkillers, and hydration via IV drip, all came out to $176.
Meanwhile my family back home continues to pay off the debt of a critical surgery my father had *five years ago*. After declaring bankruptcy on our house, of course…
Why didn’t your father have insurance? It sounds like he is deeply irresponsible and didnt plan properly for emergencies. It’s a shame that you have such irresponsible parents.
@@fatherson5907 It sounds like not everyone can afford insurance. If everyone could afford insurance, we wouldn't have the NHS.
@@oskarz sounds like the NHS can’t provide adequate level of care. If it could, why is private care even necessary?
@@fatherson5907 the NHS can absolutely provide an adequate level of of essential care, if not better than private healthcare.
where private thrives is the ability to have more flexibility and lower waiting times for non-essential treatment, however if you are willing to wait a bit then the NHS is absolutely fine. it’s a matter of convenience, as the quality of actual healthcare (non-essential) is similar.
Can I just point out that our NHS in the UK is free at the point of contact, but it's paid for indirectly through our National Insurance that is taken straight from our wages.
Same in Canada
Point is that I'm fine with it if it means we keep universal healthcare
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you guys get mad ripped off by your system. not only does it end up being more expensive on every individual that doesnt need constant care, it also reduces competition amongst doctors which leads to lower wages which leads to you having inferior medical staff and wait times for care. whereas privatized insurance drives doctors wages up as the insurance companies have to compete with each other to get that doctor on their insurance network which results in the finest doctors flocking here in order to earn more coin. its really quite a simple decision for us here in the united states.
The NHS is paid for from general taxation, NI contributions just go into the tax pot like all other taxes. NI is not hypothecated for the NHS (despite this being a common misconception).
Of course it is and it works for the most part, but in the States they are fleeced numerous times over. Pay medical insurance (check) insurance top ups (check) more top ups (check) SKINT then DEAD
I'm in the US. Our family currently pays 25% of our income in health insurance premiums. That's just for the insurance itself. If we want healthcare, we have to pay out of pocket until we meet our deductible of $2500 per person, or $5000 for the family (and that's a relatively low deductible plan, many are higher, requiring you to pay $10,000 before they cover anything ). After that deductible is met, insurance kicks in and covers 80% of costs, after the copay (and that's relatively good coverage - the other plan we were offered covered 50%). So if I've met my deductible and then break my ankle and go to the hospital, I pay the $450 hospital visit copay. If the bill is $5000, my cost would be $1000. On top of us paying 25% of our income every month in premiums.
But that's actually an ideal situation. What actually happens is that once you meet your deductible, the insurance company starts denying and delaying any claims, because they don't want to have to actually pay anything out. One year I got injured and needed an MRI in October. I was happy I'd already met my ($7000 at the time) deductible and would have it covered. Wrong. Insurance company denied and delayed until January. Then they suddenly stopped fighting and approved the MRI - only now I had to pay 100% out of pocket, because it was a new deductible year. If you think the US system is better because we don't have to wait for care, you might want to know that's only if you're rich enough to pay out of pocket for it all. Insurance companies regularly delay and deny care.
I would be more than happy to pay 13% of our income for free healthcare. Not only would it be a lot less than we pay now (it would be nice to be able to have a savings account!), but it would help cover other people. From the time I was 18 to when I finally was able to get health insurance in my late 30's, I was perpetually paying off medical debt from random things like breaking an ankle, and perpetually sick from an untreated but easily treatable minor (if well managed) chronic health condition, because I couldn't afford basic preventative care. I don't want that to keep happening to people. I don't think it's right for people to suffer unnecessarily due to lack of treatment for health conditions that are easily treated or managed. It should be a source of embarrassment for us that we allow this. Imagine what people could accomplish if they're not unnecessarily restrained by poor health and outrageous medical bills.
*And imagine being sick or injured and just being able to focus on healing, instead of being flooded with paperwork, bills, and having to spend hours on the phone sorting out delays and denials.
Crazy what these underdeveloped countries have to go through
@@kaylajohnny3544 what total bullshit
Lmao
😂😂
Please don't insult underdeveloped countries. Some of us have universal healthcare
@@deeehi3 i think they are saying USA is underdeveloped (sarcastically )
I am proud to have our NHS. One of the best we’ve got in the UK.
Pity the Tories have now put it up for sale.
@Bryan Bradley you really want a gun that bad? Lol
@@ellenbainprior4682 I swear they are upping the funding by 33 billion in a couple years
@Bryan Bradley it’s not a necessary mate at all. I don’t know what obsession American have with guns buts it’s fucking weird. Like America has 400+ mass shootings... do you not see a problem with that.
@@Luke-nh5yy Hey, at least some of those people now don't have to worry about their medical bills no more
In the late 90s my parents went to Alaska. My mum fell, hit her head and spent a few days in hospital with concussion. The total bill was about $20,000.
"Just get insurance" and you'll still be paying 4-5 figures out of pocket. Not to mention insurance is generally more expensive than taxes that go towards healthcare.
You pay 15% of your salary in taxes towards failed, pathetic NHS. You can’t do simple math 🤣🤣
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
One of those guessed... That title should be more like 'Americans talk about American healthcare'
was just about to comment the exact same thing haha
@@kaylajohnny3544 .... Are you on drugs more to the point, the fuck, get outta here.
@@CroftyOriginal just report...
When I was 6 I fell out of bed in Greece and broke my collar bone. My parents took me to the hospital, Got it all sorted. 13 Euros.
My nan still lives in Greece, She recently had cataract surgery, The doctor drove from Athens, Picked her up in his own car to the hospital in Athens, Fixed her up, she stayed in a few days to make sure all was good, Drove her home. 300 Euros.
Now bear in mind, A taxi from Athens airport to her village costs around 150euros.
preety expensive
Wow
Costs 13 euros to have your broken collar bone taken care of 🤯 as an American if that happened to me I’d rather purge or commit suicide
Well I am from India and I once had a muscle tear in mu foot and the funny thing about it that my medicines only cost around 350 Ruppes or like 3 dollars or something like that
Prescriptions are no longer free. A large number of people in the UK are now been prescribed antidepressants so they are been charged at least £9.50 a month. Coincidence?
Could easily be a placebo/sugar tablet they are been sold.
Big pharma are cleaning up. Both party's are collaborating to make these companies richer.
If Labour promised to return to free medical prescriptions they would probably get back into power.
But nobody is interested in that.
I think it should be cheaper but not totally free except for people who are unable to pay. In Sweden the emergency care is great, I had surgery for retinal detachment this year and I was really stressing out because there was a risk of going blind but I received excellent care, not just the surgery itself (they did an excellent job) but I also really appreciated the compassion from the nurses. At the same time I have so many frustrating experiences trying to get treatment for non-emergency health issues I have half a dozen chronic issues, (stomach pains, headache, dizziness, eczema, etc) and the doctors just won't even try to help with anything so I just don't bother anymore, I just try to exercise, meditate and eat better. Last year was the worst, out of the blue I got a palsy in my leg and could hardly walk and it took months before I got an appointment with a neurologist, I ended up going to Denmark and paid $1000 at a private clinic just to have it looked at. Luckily it healed on its own after five months. I would rather pay a couple of hundred dollars each time if it meant I got 45 minutes with a doctor that actually listened instead of 20 minutes with one that apparently doesn't care at all.
This is criminal! I'm glad I have Universal Health Care here in Australia!
I didn't realise Aussies had it, too. Isn't it the best thing about any society? Imagine being sick in the USA and thinking _"Is this treatment what I need... or are they treating me badly so I have to get more treatment and they make more money"!_
@@TonyEnglandUK Lots of first world nations have Universal Health Care. The US does not.
My recent experience is an example, this is from a rural/remote area.
I suffered a bad fall and lost total sensation and movement in my right arm. Nothing... dead... numb. Called the emergency ambulance, and the ambo arrived in less than five minutes. Soon, four nurses arrived to assist (with phone access to a doctor). Was sent by ambulance with a transfer to get across on the ferry (I live on an island), to the hospital.
Had CT scan, X-ray and a five day in patient stay, with a neurosurgeon checking me with his assistants.
Now having physiotherapy to help with my arm.
TOTAL COST $0.00
@@TonyEnglandUK we only pay about 2% of our income for Healthcare. Oh and you don’t pay anything if you’re unemployed
Ain't Nothin' But A Strip Club. Best description of America I've ever heard. Trump would've won a landslide with that slogan.
Im not sure youve understood where she was coming from, she's basically saying people like Trump only exist to perpetuate this shitty situation and keep the money rolling in.
May I ask what country u live in&if it's the US which State?..And I have lived&worked in the US and the UK.
@Jake Green he didn't though did he 🤣 he got creamed.
@Jake Green A country where people get teargassed on the order of their President IS a gulag. You are living in one my friend.
Nerd. Lapdance
The NHS is not free but I would rather have a system of tax than the American system.
sam conway the Yanks have a "system of tax" they just spend it all on Tanks & Aircraft Carriers and armed conflicts. " God Bless America "
@David Gray cloud you are right that there is no charge at the point of service. But you do pay for the NHS in terms of tax.
@David Gray cloud I'am not arguing with you I agree with the NHS system. If you read my first text it says that the NHS system is the right one to have. Theres nothing humanitarian about a poor man dying because he can't pay to save his life. You are right.
The fact is that the NHS benefits massively from the development of drugs and procedures developed in American labs and hospitals.
Neither system is perfect and the consequences of waiting times in the UK mean that the US has significantly better outcome than the UK for cardiovascular disease and for many common cancers.
@David Gray cloud "The United States accounted for 42% of prescription drug spending and 40% of the total GDP among innovator countries and was responsible for the development of 43.7% of new molecular entities" An NME is; a drug that does not contain an active moiety previously approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
The US also developed the first oral polio vaccine, the first vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia, smallpox, hepatitis A and Lymes disease. HIV was identified in the US, the Human Genome Project was run from the US and US scientists discovered how to use human skin cells to create embryonic stem cells.
The list of US surgical developments is also long.
FWIW, I'm not even American.
It's not free. It's a service all us hard working folk pay for through tax.
Good id rather that then someone go bankrupt due to cancer
And you would rather someone disabled go without any healthcare?
Willie Bauld what? I’d rather it be free that’s what I said
@@masondaley1549 exactly
Still overall we pay less and rich people pay for the poor. If you are so unlucky to have to do an operation that costs 200000 euros the whole community pays for you
The NHS is not free! We pay for it with our taxes! We pay! It’s free at point of use - big difference!
As a native American living in the UK since the age of 14 the NHS in the UK is fantastic , I broke my leg when young my mother who's a doctor phoned for an ambulance it came I went into hospital well looked after great staff then home in a cast all free fantastic .
How do u live in the uk if your Native American plz explain I’m confused 🤔 because aren’t you American 🇺🇸
@@mystic9806 Oh dear! He said quite clearly that he’s lived in the UK from the age of 14. Native American is his heritage/ethnicity. Believe it of not, there are many people around the world who have moved to another country. The UK has about 100k immigrants who were born in the USA. They’re still American by birth even if they’ve become British nationals. In the same way, Brits who’ve moved to the USA and become US citizens are still British by birth. It’s quite simple, really.
This is where National Insurance comes out of our wages, we all contribute to the pot, to help whoever needs it.
@@mystic9806 is American
Many Americans argue that they don't want to pay for other people's health care, nor indeed other people paying for theirs. I would argue back that their contributions to their health care provider is never ring-fenced for their exclusive use. In fact, insurance companies operate in the same way as the NHS, with the exception that they're profit driven. So, if you're American, think about the board of directors of your health insurance company, and how many long haul vacations they take every year, and the private schools they send their children to, and who's paying for it all.
people would have had and still do have the same opinion but we have had the NHS here 72 years now so i guess some attitudes have changed but in reality, one cannot please everyone, all of the time.
Yep. I’ve gotten into countless arguments over this, and the answer every time is ‘I don’t want to be paying for someone else’s healthcare’, and they can’t possibly see past that to understand the benefits of socialised healthcare.
Funny thing is they pay for their Fire and Rescue and Police through their taxes. But that is not 'Socialism'
They are so dumb.
If you are Paying Health care insurance you are already Paying for some elses Health care where do People think the money comes from to pay for the Procedures/Consultation it comes from the insurance premiums people pay into the company
They're already paying for others it's co-pay
As someone who’s had about a year and a half of cancer treatment including 3 surgery’s, one being brain, a year of chemo and i’ve been a total of 14 departments, along with countless MRI’s. I’m still seeing 4 departments every 3 months. I can tell you with the best insurance the US has to offer we’ve spent at least $5,000 and counting, which is unbelievably cheap.
I got sick and went to see a doctor. consultation and meds are cheap in and affordable here. everything costs art 90rm ( 21/23USD) Government hospitals are afforadable here and im very grateful
Dam the Americans in the comment section really got their feelings hurt by this video
Damn
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My feelings are only hurt because I'm stuck here and I'm afraid to ever get sick or injured 😕
I'm American and I'm not hurt because I agree that our healthcare system is awful. People in a lot of European countries are automatically covered by health insurance but a large proportion of the population here believe that people need to work and save up to receive their own insurance (which only benefits the rich). It's pathetic
@Winter snow Owen yea we are indeed!!
Title: Americans guess the cost of British healthcare
Video: Literally asked one person to guess the cost of one procedure 😂
I suppose it would get pretty boring asking the same question with the same answer each time. Fix my leg, free. Cure my cancer, free. Have a baby, free. Lose your job, your savings and have no assets and don't pay a single penny in tax, It's free. Are you a living human being not from the UK, it's free.
@Chris Actually you will be denied a liver like if you are an alcoholic. Not exactly a resource you can waste.
Yeah, kinda lied to us
Maybe everyone else knew the answer or guessed correctly, which wouldn’t have quite the same impact.
@@Jack-uy7ie actually I know someone who had a liver transplant and he is an alcoholic. Granted that he has been trying to quit and his family is keeping and eye on him not to drink but the reason for the transplant was damage caused by alcoholism.
Here in Brazil I pay the equivalent to US$ 75 per month for full health care insurance with no extra payments at all. People who don't have money to have health care insurance can use the public health system, it can take a while for you to have an appointment, but you will have it for sure.
That guy saying his doctor charged 5 grand to look at his shoulder , and then says “and I have good health care”. …. No . You . Don’t. Your insurance sucks. I work for the state of New York and to have my doctor look at my shoulder costs me nothing.
When I was 14, I got braces. My parents had to pay $5,000 after insurance paid their part. I think that's outrageous
Life costs money, moron.
@@fatherson5907 You clearly don't know, so I'll try to explain it to you. I will start by asking you a question. What do doctors in the Uk do differently that doctors in the US do or don't do? Nothing and if there is a difference, it's minimal. Why do you think braces are free in the Uk and not in the US. Even if they aren't free do you really think they should cost $5,000 after insurance. The healthcare system in the US is messed up and if you can't see that, then you're a dumba*s and you clearly learned nothing from watching the video
@@michaelbaker5501 doctor quality in the Uk is far lower, and the hospital quality is inferior.
There’s no such thing as free healthcare. Only complete idiots like you believe that nonsense.
@@fatherson5907 The first two things you said are not true. The Uk is home to some of the best schools in the world. I've never been (and I doubt you have) to a hospital in the Uk so I can't speak to the part about hospital quality. Also, I never said that healthcare is free. I understand that in the Uk the "free" healthcare comes from the taxes their citizens pay. If the US would spend it's money wiser and use our tax dollars on things we actually need then we could have. You have this attitude because you've never been on the other side of the argument. Suppose you were in a car accident and the person who hit you ran. You would now have to foot a bill of probably over 10,000. I don't know about you, but the average American doesn't have $10,000 to spend on medical bills and they would likely have to file medical bankruptcy. You clearly don't know what you're talking about so please do your research before starting an argument
@@michaelbaker5501 Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll.
This is the reverse of the one they did in London. Amazing how different it is in America, shocking
this is what you get with 40 years of Reaganomics.....it's all greed greed greed and it will be our downfall too.
@@miamidolphinsfan It’s also to do with the American attitude, a lot of Americans especially Republicans hate the idea of socialised healthcare because they feel that they are paying for other people instead of themselves.
@@TheMikeskillz but that's how the police, fire public education, roads, etc all work, but something this fundamental LOL idiots. By the way if you're young & healthy you are paying for older patients at your Health Insurance company...so why not have guaranteed healthcare for all ? It's makes for a stronger, & healthier populace...it's just stupidity & brainwashing by the healthcare industry to keep you from having what every other nation offers.
in the USA: Oh dear i broke my finger, better take out a 5,000 dollar loan
in the UK: pop to A&E, wait up to four hours and get it snapped back into place. Pay maybe £10 ($17) for pain meds for a month
@@AzguardMike and in the USA you still have to wait the 4 hours
PS I have just paid 7.000 pounds for a vital op because the NHS could not offer me abed. I had already been waiting 2years. I have paid National Insurance all my working life as have all my family.
In Aotearoa New Zealand we legit have something called the ACC, which gives you compensation money if you become sick or injure yourself. Not only is all treatment free, *you literally get paid when you break your arm here*
THE BEST description of USA ever - nothing but a strip club! It’s a hustle 👏👏👏
I loved the description
@I_Can See_You It means having a high level of work ethic. In order words, you are constantly working/making money.
@I_Can See_You it means to be constantly on the grind to make money
I live in México and my mom had breast cancer like 4 years ago and it was all paid by the medical insurance (which cost like 200 dollars per year if not free) now she's cancer free and it's still getting all her follow up and even had the reconstruction whitout extra charge or anything
That's great. It's the first civilised thing a government should do, provide health care. It's literally life or death.
Since the turn of of this century, I had a mental breakdown resulting in a nine month stay in a psychiatric ward, a heart attack causing a week in intensive care followed by six months off work, followed by a second breakdown leading to another six months of hospitilasation. All of which resulted in a charge to me of £0.00, while my employers at the time covered my wages at the samelevel as if I had been actually present & doing my job. Nothing I have ever heard about the USA would ever consider me going there, not even for a holiday.
Can I entice you with the possibility of being the victim of a mass shooting? lol
Anybody who thinks the NHS is free, has completely lost the plot!
Just like that lady my family also travels to 🇲🇽 just to go to the hospital, even with the cost of a plane ticket you end up paying waaay less than in America.
I honestly can’t get my head around paying at all, yes it comes out in tax, so I don’t see it but I actually feel good to pay into something that helps save the lives of 1000’s of people per day and that is worth more than momey
@@williebauld1007 that's the thing, a lot of us Americans (not me, my mom is actually a good person) are taught to be selfish: "rugged individualism" or some PC branding that absolute psychopaths popularized. Apparently being kind to others is beta or bluepilled or some fucking bullshit, or you're a "sucker", there's no sense of community here anymore, which is why there's so many psycho cops and people who are homeless are demonized for being too poor to afford a home or too mentally ill to hold down a job... ironic considering how many Americans are devout "Christians" too (about as "Christian" as Trump more like).
"Its nothing but a strip club." 😂
I was not expecting that 🤣
It's not totally free, but we use the nation's collective buying power through our taxes and national insurance contributions to make it nil cost at point of treatment for all. NHS💙
yh but is free compare to 100k on a broken leg
And our government actually cared enough, not to let pharmaceutical industries prey upon it citizens, regulated it.
Goodness, USA really is a corporations pretending tobe a nation.
@@nfspbarrister5681 "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over and didnt need. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states.
I get what u mean but its not completely free in the UK as we pay taxes and this covers NHS etc
Sometimes I think we take our NHS for granted, it's so normal for health are to be free I can't even imagine paying thousands to get something looked at or fixed
@TheShadowblade still less than you 🤪
@TheShadowblade well it was a good assumption to make seeing as you said ‘you’ and not ‘we’
@TheShadowblade still better than paying full, also that’s probably less than what they’d pay in a year (with paying insurance and the times when you get injured and meds), sorry for coming off mean and I just reread your comment of living in the uk, so ima change the you to they.
@TheShadowblade Every healthcare system is cheap if you eliminate the poor.
@TheShadowblade so? whats your point?
My cousin lives in Puerto Rico and had to get braces. It would've cost her 5,000 dollars. She came to the Dominican Republic, and flight, acommodation, transportation, the braces she needed and every other cost set her back only 1,000 dollars total. USA medical costs are insane!
Puerto Rico isn't the United States, not exactly. There an American territory. The primary reason that American medical expenses are so high is because of medical associations, private companies that run medical associations and Medical Care. They have a limit on how many people can become doctors and all that crap. where Great Britain / the UK wants as many as they can get
Healthcare is free even in some developing nations, like mine. It's more of a public option here, and it's got its problems with funding, but the lack of cost is a life saver for most people.
And it’s not just the money we would save, even with higher taxes, but the PEACE OF MIND.
It’s as though government representatives want to keep the country in chaos so they can execute their nefarious schemes.
We wouldn’t save money. Studies show that implementing a universal system would increase taxes by $5-10T per year.
And peace of mind isn’t waiting years for surgery.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
This wasn't as much asking Americans to guess the cost of UK healthcare as asking one person.
My friend in America has been in hospital for just a couple of days and she's already facing a bill of thousands of dollars as if the threat of cancer isn't enough to worry about. I asked her if she can't afford to pay will they put back the bad bits they've already had to cut out of her and she said yeah probably! What part of Land of the free is actually being referred to in the National Anthem?
The freedom to be ripped off financially.
@@allanfoster6965 Too right!
I’m from Boston but now I live in Sheffield and I can’t tell you how much my health has improved since I got here five months ago and when I’ve been unwell, I can afford treatment.
Today I picked up a medication for an infection that’s £8 but in America it would have been AT LEAST $130.
then get some insurance dummy. in england you pay 13% of your wages per month to the NI for healthcare, so you didnt even pay $8 or even $130 you ended up paying WAY more than that.
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over and didnt need. if that seems like fair taxes then you do you lol. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. also medical staff earns more money in the united states because of competition amongst privatized health insurance companies driving up wages which results in better doctors and care. but if you wanna go be a commie then you do you.
The UK National Health and Welfare system started in 1948 was a world first. Health care (also heavily subsidised optical and dentistry) is mainly covered by general taxation but includes some National Insurance payments (which instead mainly covers social security, disability support, sick pay, unemployment and a miserable national old age pension).
I remember the first time an American told me they didn't have free health care and relied on insurance - I was absolutely gobsmacked. Especially when they told me that not everyone had insurance. I just couldn't believe it.
Most Americans have plans either through their parents or through work. Therefore if you lose your job you lose your healthcare. After a certain age you are taken off your parents plan if they haven't done it themselves already
When i was 39 i had a broken ankle that had to be pinned n plated followed 6months later by a hip replacement. Im lucky to be British, as i dread to think what would of happened to me in the US.
You would have been put on disability, at least for a while.
I knew of a man who contracted cancer, and they managed to save his life, but it bankrupted him, and they essentially saved that mans life just to screw him for funds.
He said it would have been more himane to let him die from cancer rather than face the reat of his (saved) life in destitution and homeless.
When I went to the States with a friend to travel we encountered this barber. My friend went to get a haircut there. He was 87 years old. We asked him if he loved his profession so much that he was still doing it. He told us that he was still working because his son was a cancer survivor and in crippling debt because of it so he keeps on working to help and pay the bills. We were heartbroken.
Average household debt is much lower in the US than in the UK and EU. But data is hard for you uneducated peasants to analyze, I know.
The NHS is third world garbage. Stop tryin go to push that failed trash on us.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US
I go 2 times a year to check my health, blood analises and if they detect anything I can do more exams, don't pay anything, I live in Portugal - Europe
When I see Americans standing at their front doors clapping and banging saucepans in thanks to their health care system and not just for those who work in it, then I'll believe they have a better set up. We don't kid ourselves that the NHS is in anyway perfect, but at least it puts people before profit. And, by the way, if you want private care you can still get that in the Uk.
...and the private healthcare is better value for money because they have to compete against what the NHS offers!
Geordie boy And anyone who can afford it makes sure they have it! The NHS is useless.
@@annoyingbstard9407 Depends on what you need and where you live perhaps. I agree it can be slow at times but I've never found it useless.
Geordie boy No. You are right - but I'm not always convinced that we get best value or that our money is spent wisely. Our local hospital spent £150,000 on some peculiar statues to go in their fancy new foyer (along with a piano) yet were begging for the public to help pay for a new MRI suite.
@@annoyingbstard9407 You are right to be annoyed about that!
I'm British and I must agree that NHS is the best thing to happen to us. Apart from that everything else in UK is expensive af
weird. Im romanian and i live in the UK for almost 10 years now. Apart from the cost of property I really dont find UK to be expensive at all, well maybe apart from London. I mean I worked on minimum wage for quite a while and I still managed to pay my rent and bills, have a decent lifestyle, buy a car and afford to go on couple of holidays each year. For the thats enough to say that UK has a great life quality and Im grateful for it. The only thing that is expensive if the price of property to be honest
@Ic N like it matters to me if someone accepts me or not. It was just an honest opinion
"13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. you are actually getting massively ripped off by a communist policy and most of you havent even bothered to work out the math on it.
Huh? It's not THAT expensive in the U.K. what are you referring to?
@@TonyEnglandUK Transport and accommodation is very dear in the U.K.
If we break our arm in the UK it isn’t ‘free’ to treat it. We pay taxes to pay for it. It’s naive to think that the USA style private insurance model is the only other alternative. Many European countries use a social insurance model which is cheaper and provides better outcomes than the NHS does.
the wild thing about this is Americans actually pay MORE in taxes than most other countries (even ones with universal healthcare) on healthcare spending; Americans also pay private costs on top of that.
Nope, the US pays far less in taxes. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
The US has the second highest average net salary of any country.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
@@fatherson5907 Wow... even here, too?
So sad. 😢
@@strangerinastrangeland3613 you watch cartoons 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your obsession with the US is pathetic. Good thing you wont be around much longer.
I’ve had five operations and multiple MRI’s, scans, ultrasounds, X-rays, blood and urine tests and more doctor visits than I could count over the last two years and haven’t paid a cent here in Australia.
@@kaylajohnny3544 Nobody wants your essential oils Karen
I fucking love this country man, We are honoured as Australians not to be born in
"Land of the free and home of the brave"
@@LibShitted "13% of each worker's wages up to a ceiling earnings level beyond which no more is paid. So if someone is earning the equivalent of US$30000, they pay about $330 a month of National Insurance." 13% of my wages per month is somewhere near 450 usd, that means id pay somewhere around 5k a year on health insurance to the NHS. i havent been to the doctor or needed any dental work or any other remotely large ticket item in like 10 years. that means i would have paid 50k over the last 10 years for healthcare that i get no control or say over. i am so fucking glad i live in the united states. but hey, maybe the united states will remember that land of the free comment when china comes knocking eh?
T A X E S
@@jjjj-cy3vz Except china wont come knocking because half the shit you sell is made in china. Its kind of like if mexico started a war with you despite the fact its the country you get all the crack you smoke from
I recently retired as a cop after 30years. For my final decade I was paying over £4k per annum National Insurance. I'm now a part time school bus driver and because my salary is a fraction of what it was, and contributions are related to salary, I now pay less than £2 per month.
...and yet are entitled to as much health care as you need, free at the point of delivery. Great isn't it?
Can I just point out that the title of video is "Americans guess the cost of British healthcare." Yet you only asked one person the cost of something, I would have liked to see more of what the video claimed to be doing.
The old market forces are starting to sneak into prominence in the UK. For a lot of medical procedures there are overly long waiting lists to "push" people into going private and paying. A friend of mine has been waiting nearly 2 years for a hip replacement and there is no sign of her getting scheduled. She could pay £20K and get it done fairly quickly but can barely afford that much cash, it'll be financially crippling.
Same shit in Russia, all that left-over from USSR keeps getting cut from budget and sold for miserably values just to become private property.