Why Medical Bills In The US Are So Expensive
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- čas přidán 25. 12. 2018
- The American health-care system is in a tug of war between physicians, hospitals, insurance companies, pharmaceuticals and shareholders. At the center of it all are the patients.
Ashley Palmiscino's insurance company was billed roughly $4 million for her five-month-old son Luca's lung transplant. Her family had to turn to fundraising almost immediately just to keep up with the medical bills, and she's not alone. One-third of the money raised on GoFundMe last year went to medical campaigns.
So how did we get here, and how do we turn things around?
"Once there's all this money sloshing around in a system, there's this sort of pile-on effect where everyone wants to grab their bit of this huge pot of money," said Elisabeth Rosenthal, a former physician who wrote a book about how health care became big business.
"Now what we have as we're trying to take it back and reduce costs is everyone is desperately clinging to their piece of the pie."
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Why Medical Bills In The US Are So Expensive
Now I understand why some Americans choose to retire in other countries.
America needs drastic measure. Like Abolish all the private insurance companies.
Retire? I'd emigrate at 18 and do a degree anywhere else.
I wouldn't live anywhere else. Protected by the constitution and the concept of negative rights.
Healthcare here is expensive because of government interference and regulation backed monopolies in insurance. If you have cancer America is #1 if you want to live.
Also the cheapest places in the US healthcare system is the places where insurance companies refused to support.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 You think americans are more protected because of the constitution? What does the constitution protect that the European convention of human rights does not?
@@vagabondwastrel2361 It's not the only constitution.
Two things that should never be for-profit: education and health!
I've seen public education. High schools aren't preparing students with common sense to thrive in the changing modern times. Most students don't need 2 years of French, art history, and Algebra III when they cannot get along with fellow Americans and know how to manage their finances.
H conteh Or firefighters Or law enforcement... I just don’t get why people in the US draw the line in the sand at health care, like that is the one thing that will make us scary socialist.
H conteh the exact model that lead to the current mess.
@@weareorigin Public education in other countries is way more advanced. Frequently out performing private schools.
As well as essential services, like...electricity, water/sewerage, gas and telephone.
The exorbitant cost of healthcare in America is a result of several complex factors. Firstly, the country's fragmented healthcare system leads to inefficiencies and administrative overheads, with multiple layers of bureaucracy and paperwork increasing expenses. Additionally, the high prices of medical services, pharmaceuticals, and equipment contribute significantly to healthcare costs, fueled by a lack of price transparency and competition. Moreover, the prevalence of costly medical procedures, defensive medicine practices, and a fee-for-service payment model further drive up expenses. Addressing these systemic issues and promoting reforms focused on efficiency, affordability, and accessibility is crucial to mitigate the burden of healthcare costs on individuals and the economy.
I would Support you on this one because I'm a doctor for 10years now Deeply understand. However, To address this issue, policymakers must prioritize reforms aimed at streamlining the healthcare system, increasing price transparency, and promoting value-based care delivery models to ensure affordability and accessibility for all Americans.
Investing can play a crucial role in helping individuals manage and keep up with healthcare expenses in the United States. By strategically allocating funds into investment vehicles such as health savings accounts (HSAs), individual retirement accounts (IRAs), and brokerage accounts, individuals can build a financial cushion to cover medical bills and unexpected healthcare costs. Moreover, investing in dividend-paying stocks, bonds, and real estate investment trusts (REITs) can generate passive income streams that can be earmarked for healthcare expenses. Additionally, investing in healthcare-focused mutual funds or exchange-traded funds (ETFs) allows individuals to capitalize on the growth potential of the healthcare sector while diversifying their investment portfolio. By adopting a proactive approach to investing and diligently managing their finances, individuals can better navigate the challenges of healthcare expenses and secure their financial well-being.
Certainly! Participating in investing is a critical component of financial planning, ensuring individuals can maintain their desired lifestyle and financial security during their retirement years and also to help battle health issues when you can no more work when you get ill.
As old age draws near for me, it's essential to manage my retirement and savings. Since I'm a widower and no one to really care for me if i get ill so i need this to be able pay for good health care just in case. I'm Seeking trustworthy recommendations to avoid any mishandling would be incredibly helpful at this juncture..
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I remember seeing a video of a UK doctor analyzing a US hospital bill. There was a line stating ~$115,000 for imaging and his reaction was "that's almost the price of a brand new MRI machine. At that price I hope the patient took the MRI machine home with him". That really shocked me, how the US system could have stooped so low to the point where people would rather die than generate a medical debt for their family!
FYI - I worked at a major metropolitan university hospital - there were bone marrow transplant patients with $3 million medical bills. These massive bills are NEVER, EVER collected on. They are generated ONLY so that they can be written off as bad debt. It might seem strange, but the hospital never went after anyone with a seven (or even six) figure bill, but the small fries all got sent to collection agencies. If you owe a thousand dollars, they will hunt you down.
A - During the Hill-Burton Health Care Act system it was from (1) taxpayers to (2) government to (3) hospitals. B - But now under the HMO system it is from (1) taxpayers to (2) government (3) extortion practicing insurance business companies taking 89% to 95% of the money to (4) leaving the remaining crumbs to the hospitals.
Thanks to the high cost of health care, Americans are healthier than every other country. Nobody goes to the hospital
big pharma tried to cover up a cure for cancer, are you surprised? all becuase they didnt have the patents for some parts for the cure, in other words, if they dont profit, no one gets to live.
@@shaw7598US has one of if not the lowest life expectancy among developed countries despite paying 2-4 times higher price on health care per capita tho. Just bcs no one can afford those ridiculous medical bills and chose to die at home rather than going to hospital and get help doesn't mean Americans are "healthier". It just means if only they were in any other developed countries, they might stand a better chance at being saved and able to live on, rather than just die from their illness bcs they can't afford it...
Imagine having a heart attack.
Then have another when you received the bill.
Lol
Maybe you should get a job so you can buy insurance......
AirsickCashew Or go to europe where they don’t leave you for dead on the sidewalk
@@goldengamingmodz4324 the US will still tax you since you're an American even though you migrated
I was in the ER twice in one week with chest pain. Total cost was around $5 parking, but I'm not in the US, thankfully.
Absolutely insane, the medical system in the states. My surgery was $300,000 USD in California. I came back to Canada and my doctor was like what? That’s a $2,500 surgery here. Absolutely insane, the USA and the greed.
snowcat Why didn't you just get it done in Canada?
@@gregs7519 maybe it was an emergency surgery.
Name that surgery
@@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575 It was.
@Rolman80 80 don't you mean you left the US ~ a 3rd world country ~ for a better life elsewhere ?¿
I used to tell my roommate who doesn’t have dental insurance that he can buy a round-way ticket to China, travel around, and get his tooth cavity done while spending less than seeing a dentist in the United States
Or do the same in Mexico or Poland.
True. My Mom went to Netherlands to get some dental work done because round trip airfare and hotels with room service was less than our family dentist quoted in Florida.
I went to the dentist recently for a broken tooth after a quick exam and x-ray I was quoted $18,000 for what they wanted to do. I just wanted to get it pulled,left without having it done because I couldn't afford this even with 2 insurances.
@@annahumes2865 tf, 18k bucks over a what?
@@SerpentCommando 笑 笑
I thought I was having a heart attack. I called the ambulance. They arrived within minutes. The paramedics thought it was unlikely I was having a heart attack, but suggested I go with them to the hospital. After various blood tests etc I was discharged from the hospital . A few days later I received a letter to say I was booked in to my local hospital for an angioplasty appointment. The results of that said that one of my arteries was narrower than normal, but not so bad to require further treatment. I was prescribed medication to be taken regularly. The cost for all this? Nothing. I live in the UK. Thank you NHS.
Trash country. “Healthcare” is free there and doctors get paid dog money.
@@LordJulius777 What is that supposed to mean?
@@railvlogger1439 it means their country is better than the U.S
And people actually try to defend the American healthcare system.
Juan Valadez because some people blindly believe universal free healthcare is a good idea.
David Cappadoccia what point are you even trying to make? You think our current privatized, corrupt, greedy, exploitative system is a good one? You think it’s okay for hospitals to charge hundreds of dollars for a cough drop? Why don’t you enlighten us with your superior alternative?
I can guarantee you not one single person in Canada or Europe would trade their healthcare for the dumpster fire we call American ‘healthcare’.
@@juanvaladez5703 Healthcare is not the problem. We have the best healthcare in the US. Government being involved, and insurance companies are the reason healthcare is more expensive out of pocket to patients in the US. The countries with socialized systems, their total programs cost more, just less direct out of pocket patient expense.
@@umoramayori Which is, of course, completely wrong.
In Germany we have a pretty stupid healthcare system. Not remotely as stupid as that of the US, but still...
Everybody earning _more_ than about 60.000€ can get private health insurance.
Everybody earning less _has_ to be in public healthcare, where everybody pays according to his income.
This means that the middle class pays for the poor, while the rich only pa for themself - and for the profit of the insurance companies.
And still, even the people earning close to 60.000 only pay 8500€ for health insurance per year. But that covers pretty much everything. Cancer treatment, birth, daily doses of insulin, medication, hospitals... for them and their whole family.
The privately insured pay less as long as they are young and healthy, but when they get older it ramps up significantly, so over their lifes they still pay more. So.. turns out that paying for the poor is still cheaper than paying for the companies profits.
Now imagine a system where the middle class would not have to pay for the poor alone. Then everybody would profit. Well, not the insurance companies, or hospital corporations, but pretty much everyone else.
David Cappadoccia you’re on every post sounding like an absolute idiot 😂 go get some mental health care, oh wait that’s right, you can’t afford it 😂😂
I’ve had 3 tumours removed. Total cost to me. €0. Thank you Ireland 🇮🇪
In US you would already loose a house, all your savings and would claim a bankruptcy :(
Kostiantyn facts bro you lose everything just to save your own life
Joe Mcevoy I currently have an oral tumor which I have been ignoring for about 4 months because I am uninsured and don’t have money to pay 200-300$ dollars for an insurance that doesn’t cover the more important procedures or tests. It’s crazy. Hoping and praying that by the time I get some kind of decent coverage it’s not too late
@@kosta2177 in the us, you would consider dying rather than getting treatment
You pay for that in your taxes
Americans: "Help! We can't afford medical treatment!"
Also Americans: "Free medical treatment? - No way! That’d be socialism!"
If libraries didn't already exist, they would call that socialism too. Right wing fascists are shadow boxing specters.
@@ocnus1.61
Wait! The US lend books to people for free, without paying the author, but refuse to provide medical treatment for those who would die without?
Socialism means that the government takes care of its citizens. It does not mean that we can't choose where we work.
Thats what they always say, and they called themselves "free". I'll laugth in their faces, even a 3rd world country has better education and Healthcare
Actually that’s republicans with that mindset. Most democrats support Medicare for all. Also known as socialized Medicare.
My husband had a fatal heart attack at home in Dublin. Two ambulances came and the EMTs worked to stabilise him for 45 minutes, then transported him to the local public hospital. The coronary team there continued for 45 minutes. The total that is was billed was ZERO. Ireland takes care of its own in the public system. And yes, I pay for private health insurance.
Wow 😮that’s amazing you didn’t have a charge
In the United States.The bill would cause you to go bankrupt.
"I don't know what people do without insurance" They just die.
Or go bankrupt as over 600,000 americans do every year from healthcare costs.
Dying is also not cheap.
ignore things like diabetes and have heart attacks, 5 bypass surgery after 8 years of ignoring it, choosing to feed and shelter my family. Go to work sick alot of days but 750 a month for insulin does not figure in to most peoples budget. Medicade and retirement now., and insulin, Medicade came but had to almost die to qualify
@@kennyh9226 That is just not right Kenny, totally sucks that you could not get the treatment that you needed when you needed it all because of $$$. In Canada where there is universal healthcare - hang on to your hat - a vial of insulin is about $35.
Are you in favor of universal healthcare in the US Kenny?
Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.
Take an Uber instead of an ambulance. You'll save around $2,000.
I completely understand your logic. Though an ambulance has the advantages of getting you some immediate medical assistance with trained EMTs and equipment to stabilize you. Plus an ambulance isn't bound to follow the same traffic laws as a citizen. They can speed, and cross through traffic stops with priority during an emergency.
As a paramedic I agree 100% don’t take an ambulance if you don’t need it.
true,
I did that when a dog ripped my leg open. It was gross, but at least I managed not to bleed on the uber driver's car. Also I saved like $5,000.
LoL
Shameful that so many people / companies are getting rich over other people's suffering and bankruptcy. Absolutely despicable.
No, doctors are paid too much. Thats where your bill is going.
@@maxpro751 Do doctor get paid a lot yes, but a vast majority of that money is going to insurance and hospital administration.
When I was studying abroad in Sweden a student was showing me the nurse's office and said "The school will often call an ambulance just to be safe." I asked "If the school calls an ambulance will I have to pay for it?" And we stared at each other in confusion until I remembered where I was.
It's so weird. The moment you call 911 is the moment you need to pay just to make that call. The ambulance itself is another, separate charge.
No other country in the world charge its people to make emergency calls.
In America, It's $17 for one band-aid in a hospital. A 24 pack at the store is $2. Let that sink in.
That's because the hospital is FORCED by the government to take care of people who do not pay? They have to charge more to stay open. What alternative do you suggest? You don't have any alternatives. You just have complaints and a lack of understanding math.
Not Myname
The idea that you are afraid of taking responsibility for your own life is weird to us. You are paying not to die because it's YOUR LIFE. You own it. The only people responsible for it are the ones who created it (your parents).
The NHS is by no means free and it sucks. The United States produces a majority of the medical advancements for the world including you.
If we become like you, who will create our medical advancements?
Please, I dare you to answer.
Not Myname
Medical publications per person doesn't mean a goddamn thing when you have so few people. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We do more. We produce more. People benefit from our advancements more, PERIOD.
The NHS is loved by people just like free crack is loved by crack addicts. How happy people are with free stuff (that isn't really free) is just a big scam.
If a baby has an illness where did they get it? Their parents right? That makes them responsible. It's pretty simple man. Someone's child is not my responsibility. Do you know why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHILD!!!
Let's do a children's.
Jack and Mike live in the same neighborhood. They both pay $100 a month for healthcare collectively. They both have 2 children. Mike then has another child. Now, they both have to pay $125 a month. Mike has another child. Now they both have to pay $150 a month. Then Mike has 4 more children. Both of them now pay $250 a month.
Jack now pays $250 a month for the exact same healthcare he had when he paid $100 a month because Mike wanted 6 more children.
THE END
You're just not thinking.
Not Myname
I don't believe anyone deserves anything. This is the source of your confusion. You get what you earn.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
Healthcare is at its fundamental definition, -> the labor of healthcare professionals.
You have no right to someone else's labor. There's a word for that.
Let's come to an understanding.
What if every single doctor in the UK decided that they wanted to be a private physician and charge cash for their work?
What happens?
Not Myname
Thanks for this talk. It gives me insight into other perspectives.
*Deserve*
First, I need you to understand that the universe doesn't care what you think you deserve. There is no such thing as deserve. It makes no sense. People are struck by lightning. Children are born dead. Who chooses who deserves what?
The idea of deserving something by simply existing makes no sense ESPECIALLY if it must be provided by someone else.
*Dying guy on the street*
This is a strawman but still it asks an important question. The question is of voluntarism. I am not forced to help that person because that violates my freedom. That person can request my help and I will likely help him. We Republicans are a charitable people. But what you aren't recognizing is that it's my choice because it's my body, my skills and my time.
Strangely enough his sickness is his responsibility.
*Doctors going private*
You say that would literally never happen but that's just dishonest. You don't know the future. There are many things that have happened in the last few decades that we never expected.
Now I ask again, what if every single doctor decided to work like EVERYBODY ELSE? It's not so strange. Virtually everyone in free societies trade their labor directly for money at a price that they negotiate.
Please try again.
When your country spends more on missiles rather than their own citizens.
That’s in being world police man
The World really doesn’t have conflicts anymore.
All the more reason why the US is creating new problems to justify their actions now.
@@Yasinburak1992 more like world terrorist, i mean without USA's terrorism there would be no ISIS.
That's why many homeless commit minor crimes to get arrested and get healthcare in prison.
Prisoners have the right to healthcare but hard workers are doomed if they don't have health care... People have to pay a fortune to get access to healthcare, but they are warmly welcome to join the army...
What is the purpose of saying you are a wealthy country with high GDP if your healthcare system is just a savage capitalist business where only the rich can afford?
Maybe this is the ideal human rights the US is trying to implant the world to become. Shame and hypocrisy at its finest.
Yes. The USA should repatriate ALL of its soldiers in foreign countries back to the USA. Let all the Asian countries (other than China) worry about China invading and taking them over (which would definitely be happening right now if not for the US). Let the middle east fight amongst themselves. Let the EU create it's own military. Then they can cut military spending and use that on their health care.
Of course, if they did that, then most of the other countries in the world will complain about how the USA has left them on their own. They'll have to severely limit immigration, from all other countries (except 'western countries') as living there will become even more repressed.
This is heartbreaking. I would strongly suggest to these parents to leave that hell of a country right now and move to a place where money is not the only language spoken. You both deserve to share happiness and life with your lovely son...
Canada is near
Canada is not a good solution. Housing costs in Canada are multiple times more expensive than the US. So all you’re doing is trading one cost for another.
So happy I live in the UK. I broke my leg and needed a 7hr surgery. Never paid a penny. I have free private healthcare from work but I prefer the National Health Service. They’re just amazing.
So glad you’ve made a healthy recovery.
You are similar to me. I have Private Medical Insurance from work but when I needed to go to A&E I just went to the local General Hospital. As an ex-gymnast I have visited a lot and they have always been do good
@@franchino88 thank you!
If it’s a serious problem or emergency you are far better off with the NHS, indeed if you go to your private healthcare provider they will send you to the NHS.
Me too, I’m Indonesian and I prefer the BPJS universal healthcare even though I have a private insurance from work.
That's why they call it The American Dream, you have to be asleep to believe it. ~ George Carlin.
Or wake up and get your life together. Don't use others quotes to justify your laziness.
I don't know how many times I quote him on a daily basis. I'm quiet influenced by his middle finger talk.
😂😂😂 love him
In this video, many times it's said, nobody is doing anything to stop it.
My answer? Because you get killed if you try. All those fatal medical accidents happening to doctors and other physicians that never make it to the news?.... yea, that's cause a doctor decided to grow a heart, and one of the higherups isn't having it, so they tell their own higherups who contact a third party ""Consulting"" company to "Deal" with the Doctor who's "heart grew 3 sizes that day".
The result is a bunch of dead doctors who's deaths are labaled as "accidents"and who never make it to the news, who's families get paid packages to silence them and a healthcare nightmare that remains unchanged.
Do your HW and lookup those, third party "Consulting" companies used by the higherups. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll be told, "stop sticking your nose where it doesn't belong, or else".
So glad I'm European!!
I live in Scotland and sometimes I'm like " how cool would it be to live in the US" then I watched this video and no thanks I'll stick to my free health care system.
I'm Brazilian, planning on keep living here. Strategy: living close to Mexico so I can handle those situations.
Just make sure you say "Public health care" not "free". No health care is free, you pay it with your taxes. When you say "free health care" you're gonna get the classic "Oh so you want free everything ?" from right wing americans : )
@@terencecaron2922 Thanks for pointing that out, I frequently make this mistake ;)
You could choose Canada because you get free health care to and it’s like the USA but nicer and less busy
@@amanda.._.. That sounds pretty awesome.
That is absolutely crazy! I was in hospital for 8 months when I was a teenager and in total my parents paid 800€. The rest was covered my insurance. I‘m forever grateful for that
WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE NOW! Get away from greedy senseless corporations!
What is crazy about tying health insurance to work is that if you are too sick to work, you then lose your insurance. Dumb system.
Corporations own America and the whole government is just a puppet to it. Every law that gets passed is only for the benefit of the corporations. Your votes never count. It has been this way since 1871.
Imagine being hit by a drunk driver and then going medically bankrupt through no fault of your own? Ludicrous!
I was hit by a car last year while riding my bike (ankle broke). Billed $1,700 USD for it (couldn't afford health insurance at the time) was only able to pay $400 (with help). Ya healthcare is America is a joke
@@illegalalien6542 what happened when you could only afford 400$?
@@julianburkert7939 Nothing really. I gave them a payment of $400 and they stopped sending me Bill's (thank god)
Yeah, I know what it feels like to not have insurance. Im 16 and my sister is 11 and it’s over 600 dollars to have us covered per month. We couldn’t afford it and actually joked to ourselves how if we got hurt, we would be $30,000 in debt. However, that might be reality or even higher. Luckily I’ve never broken any bones along with my sister or anything that would involve medical attention. We use old prescriptions for eyes as well. We always had to be careful to not get hurt. Luckily we found an affordable plan that gives us dental and vision only but doesn’t cover anything else. So we still have to be careful about injuries. It’s quite bad in general.
Edit: That’s with the cheapest company near us.
@@illegalalien6542 Sounds like you got quite lucky.. Glad that it turned out that way :)
This is so so sad. Imagine having a cancer in America. My mom cured breast cancer and payed nothing. That was in Europe. If we lived in US we would not be able to afford
@@thriller2213 That's so sad : (
Thriller I am so sorry
@@thriller2213 so sorry for your loss 💔
My mom also had breast cancer and I'm not sure exactly how it worked but she was sent to a university hospital and they gave her prescriptions, did radiation therapy on her, and did surgery and it cost nothing basically.
Edit: we live in America
My mother had cancer but sadly she passed away. Spent thousands and thousands for the smallest things. US medical system is corrupt
The healthcare system in the US is broken. The richest country in the world and it’s citizens are afraid to go to a hospital even with medical insurance. My daughter at the time was 3 years old had a 104 degree fever, I took her to the ER, she was given Tylenol for her fever, we were in the ER for about an hour, the bill was over $3,000
Because they charge $500 for a Tylenol pill, $250 for two tissues, etc. You have to have insurance otherwise you are toast when you need medical care...
I’m from the UK and visited the States a few years ago to see an old friend. Short story, we went out in the evening, she drank too much, passed out in the bathroom. I asked the bar staff to call an ambulance. Later, my friend received a $4k bill for the ambulance. She blamed me. End of friendship. I had no idea calling an ambulance would cost..least of all that much. I have always supported our NHS.
People don't need affordable health insurance, people need affordable health care.
@@kenstreetsmart852 you mean the gov... if medicare leans a doc took less for the same thing they the doc billed them... not only will they only pay that lower amount... but they will BACK CHARGE... its the gov...
If the government didn't over regulate the american healthcare system competition would drop the prices down due to competition.
They don't even have affordable insurance, in many cases.
Protection from a $3,000,000 medical bill is great, but if it costs your family $6,000 a month and still has a $50,000 copay? That's just as completely impossible for 99.9999999999999999% of the human race.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 how does the government over regulate healthcare?
John Bemery Good luck getting rid of it, it's a goldmine for the ones selling it
Everyone: "You can't put a price on life."
Hospitals: "Your bill is 3million dollars."
I think more Americans can’t afford to go to the doctor or the hospital
They just did.
“You can put a price on life.”
“Tell that to the insurance companies.”
NegronJL1 is a monopoly when we apply for it depends on income
Francisco Leon
You can’t even afford to die. Funerals cost thousands as well!
I pay about $15000 medical insurance for my family every year. Yet my family members including me are still hesitated to see a doctor when getting sick, because of the high co-pay bill and deductible line. I believe the health system itself is sick.
Health insurance is a scam.
Bro just come to India and get treatment from the biggest hospitals here.with 15000 dollars you can live, trave,get yourself checked😂😂😂
Absolute scam. As a British person I feel for you.
Thick clueless Americans go on about "high british taxes" but I pay £10,500 a year on a £55,000 ($70,100) salary, aged 28. When you compare how citizens in the UK are treated in the form of free hospital care, no charge for your doctor, often no charge for your prescription medication - and if there is a charge it is a MAXIMUM by law of £9.65 (that's only $12 for ANY drug). Then you come onto things like job security, here you aren't "fired on the spot". We have employment tribunals in the UK that listen to cases and decide whether an employee was "unfairly dismissed" from their job. If they are they company can be FORCED to give them their job back AND pay them compensation for loss of earnings, missed rent/mortgage payments etc. Then you have to factor we get sick pay AND 28 days annual leave per year minimum, 30 days per year is not uncommon and my mum once had a job where she got 40 days per year in paid leave.
In the last 4 years i've been off work for 7 months - one period I was off work for 3.5 months straight. How many Americans would still be paid their full salary, on time each month whilst being off sick for that long? I was.
How many americans got support from their employer? I did. Regular phone calls, home visit, referred to occupational health to see if they could assist (at no charge to me of course).
How many americans would still have their job when they returned after that long off work? I did. As I have each time I have been off sick (82 days in the last 12 months).
The USA system really can't compete. You also HAVE to remember that only a PERCENTAGE of that £10,500 goes to the NHS, the rest is divided up amongst all the other government services. I don't recall the exact breakdown figure but I believe it's around 30% or so to the NHS. So that's only £3,500 a year.
For a system that covers pre-existing conditions, covers you from birth until death, covers you whether you are 12 or 85, whether you are rich or poor, whether you are working or unemployed. Even if you've never had a job before and haven't paid tax you are still covered.
No co-pays, no-deductibles, no arguing with insurance companies back and forth and having to sift through pages and pages of bills, letters, the maximum charge you would pay in the British system is £9.65 - a mere $12.
Going to see my doctor? £0 - no bill when i leave nor do i ever receive one. I could visit my doctor every WEEK for an entire YEAR (52 times in a year) and still not receive a bill.
Getting an ambulance to hospital? £0 - no charge whatsoever. Even if you are blue lighted from one side of the country to the other to a specialist hospital.
Air ambulances? We have those too, weirdly these aren't funded by taxes at all, and only supported by donations from the generous public, but yet they still operate. If you're in a horrible crash and you need to be airlifted to hospital for life saving treatment or operation, despite not being funded by taxes at all - the bill is? Yes, that's right... £0!
Oh, and as for the "lower salaries".... the vast majority of items in the UK, especially products in supermarkets are VASTLY cheaper than in the USA. So everyday living is a lot less expensive. The only thing that costs a lot more in the UK is "fuel"... but then most people have efficient cars and don't have to travel huge distances, so the difference is negligeable, there's also often very good and cheap public transport so many people don't even use their cars to get to work or back home.
The british are very generous towards each other for the most part, and even towards guests and tourists.
@@thefiestaguy8831 You forgot about the 20% VAT you pay on most purchases. It’s hidden in the price so that you don’t notice. In the US it averages about 5%, and it’s tacked on so that we can see how much we’re paying.
@@Jeffhowardmeade I didn't forget it at all..
I think you missed a common sense logic. Why would I NEED to see how much tax I'm paying, when I don't have a choice?
If I want the item I have to pay the price which includes the tax... not like I can go to the till and say "I want this item but without the sales tax please".
In the UK it's done to be straightforward, the price you see on the shelf IS the price you pay, no extra tax or fees added on at the till. It's also worth noting that on the receipt you get once you've paid it literally has a breakdown, showing the cost of the goods and then how much VAT you've paid, which forms the total cost shown at the till. It's also worth noting there are also numerous items in the UK which aren't taxable under the sales tax.
Meanwhile in the USA you have to bear in mind that when you get to the till, you still have to add on another 5% or more to the cost, and that's before you consider that the vast majority of everyday items are considerably cheaper in the UK.
I can buy a loaf of fresh bread for 17 pence, that's less than 25 cents.
I can buy a pint of pasteurised cow milk (grass fed cow) for £1.30, that's $1.56.
I watch an American channel who makes videos comparing the UK to the USA, he lives in the USA with his wife and their 5 year old daughter.
He literally talks non stop about how much cheaper it is in the UK and how much money they would save.
In the UK you can buy a whole shop for £40, consisting of flowers, meat, eggs, snacks, lunch, yoghurt, bread, and other items, that £40 shop would be several carrier bags full of items.
In said video this chap literally says for $40 he's getting perhaps less than half of what you would get here, and the same shop would cost him more like $100 or above.
Health care is such a complex problem that only 29 from 30 Industrialized countries managed to solve it
I am a french pharmacist : the box of pediatric bags she showed us is around 50 euros. My best advice : buy a plane ticket and go do some shopping in France...
Plus, get a chance to visit the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, Place de la Concorde, and Avenue des Champs-Élysées as well!
Plus, get a chance to visit the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, Place de la Concorde, and Avenue des Champs-Élysées as well!
Peter Smith it would literally cost so much more to get a plane and fly to Europe as well as a hotel and basic needs in France. If they can’t pay for their medicine, they sure as hell cant pay to go to Europe
@@addisondobbins2184 depends on what medicin, america has disgustingly high prices where only the wealthy can get treatment that wont make them go into bankrupcy.
Mexico is next door
Its not a joke when some patients say "just let me die, I don't want to see a doctor". It's a person refusing to put the financial burden on their families when they know they are too far gone. Way to go America.
The Canadian system is flawed but It costs thousands of dollars cheaper
Universal healthcare first existed in the Soviet Union in 1918. In 1948, Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) stipulates that health is a human right that cannot be capitalized or given a price tag. And after 100 years, healthcare is in 194 countries out of 195 countries in the world, including North Korea. except the USA which still puts a price tag on health. for the reason that this is Universal healthcare is a crime of communism
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Debt cant be transfered BUT if you left a house and car for your kid and it was valued at 270k and you died owing 300k to the hospital, theyll take it out of your estate effectively leaving your kid nothing
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system; 1883
@@claudiavalentijn1457 it is not universal healthcare, it is still limited to certain groups such as factory workers. similar to that in the United States medical only for the poor and medicare only for people over 65 years old. in the United States alone until now there is no universal child care carena is thought of as communism czcams.com/video/AThIwfYfNrM/video.html
-How much do you earn?
-$40k a year.
-Ok, here is your medical bill of $20 million.
-How am I suppose to pay that?
-I don't know... Rob a bank?
I remember getting a bill from Progenity for $5K for a basic genetic screen when my wife was pregnant. The doctor and nurses said it would be $200 max when they pushed the test on us. Being our first born of course we wanted to be safe and know as much as possible. That was in 2016, have not paid them a penny yet. I want them to take it to collections so that I can be an ass and tell them I'm not paying $5K for a test that costs at most $500.
I refused to make a genetic test on the two embryos during my IVF and one of the twins has a Down Syndrome. Because IVF was $8k and paying $5k for the test seemed crazy. That test in other countries is part of the IVF procedure, which only costs $1-$3k. All prices in the US are elevated just because. Not trying to scare you, just something to consider. All the best!
¿And ass? ¿You? No dude, no, you just have common sense, they are assholes.
Your fight is with the hospital, not collections! Don’t give those people working at collections any harder of a time than they already get. It’s a tough world, and sometimes you gotta take any job you can get, sometimes that happens to be collections.
@@nickthompson1812 give me a break 🙄 the real issue with progenity btw
You fell for the ol genetic testing scam huh? Just like the rubes paying 23 and me, for pseudo science
If EA had a healthcare system
Clearly they're in the wrong business lol.
Wonderful analogy by the way.
Pretty much
LMAO
Why? They charge gamers for every other thing?
PS - I am interested bc I am joining EA in a couple weeks X-D .
Nishant Jain you are let me know how it goes
At least here in the UK, I know why my family has to pay taxes.
Hey we know why we pay taxes too. It's so that the rich can have more money and to help those rich people pay for the American Mercenary military. We don't send our troops to die for freedom. We send them to the killing fields to protect the fortunes of the rich.
josh S Not only, the fortunes of the rich, but also to support first national industrial power, the war industry: guns and arms that brings a lot of money every year! Not to mention that in order to gain a bigger voice in the international politics it even sacrificed Pearl Harbour (secret services knew the attack was iminent) and never stopped warring ever since, not just for preserving interests but expanding it. That's basicly what any power comes down to: selfpreservation and expansion no matter the cost. It may be expressed in different forms, but it's same old story since the beginning of times. Many get sacrifices for a few.
Trust me we know why we need to pay taxes too. The $ 800,000,000,000.00 military budget
you pay your medical insurance, not taxes
must be nice paying taxes to pay for people who don’t do anything but sit at home and drink lmao
Not to mention that insurance can flat out refuse to pay for treatment in the US. They can get the bill from a hospital or doctors office and say they won’t pay it.
Doctors can also do things that are not needed or not the most effective way.
Every time americans say that they live in the best country because of freedom, I go to a german hospital and get my feelings checked - for free.
Yes!
for free?
i paid 20 bucks per week for parking!
Fun fact: I once had to go to the emergency room from dehydration from food poisoning and they put one IV of fluid in my arm, took like an hour. They tried to bill us $15,000. We said nope. My dad wrote a bunch of letters back and forth with the hospital and finally they dropped the charges. We had asked a friend who was a doctor how much an IV bag should cost and they said at max $500. And here they were trying to charge us $15,000! Screw the American health care system.
It’s pure greed
Thanks for the info.this is my first glimpse inside the U.S health care systems.. pretty gory though seeing the numbers....
If you were given an itemised bill, it would show you that IV Fluids wouldn't cost $500 or whatever. You have to remember, you're not just paying for fluids - but for the stay in hospital, the equipment used to diagnose and treat you with, the staff, doctors who treated you all need paid as well....There are so many overheads to think about ..you don't just pay $500 for some fluid in a bag.
Karen Smith they said it took an hour to do the treatment, no one should be paying 15000 dollars for that
@@karenpff2010 still, that's INSANE while 'poorer' country gives almost free treatment.. in my country, for citizens , you'll only pay around a quarter or even less than the actual price.. and if you're really poor they will find some sort of funds/donations or whatever for you .. even a private healthcare won't charge that much
I'm Swedish. Had a surgery a couple of years ago when I received an implant. Total cost was $40.
When our child was born my wife had a C-section. We stayed a few days in the hospital. Had our own room, two beds, TV, free food and coffee whenever we wanted. Good service. Total cost was $50.
I also take a heart medication every day. That costs me $5 every couple of months.
Living with the fear of financial ruin due to sudden health issues seems terrifying. I also heard in the U.S. some places charge you extra if you want to hold your baby after birth. Completely absurd.
We have that in the Netherlands aswell, what happens in the US is just ridiculous!.
@@triggerme6144 It can vary slightly depending on where you live in the country and how much you make, but the income tax for most people is around 30-35%.
@@triggerme6144 Yeah, our taxes are relatively high, but they also give us cheap healthcare, free education (you can even get paid for studying), childcare, 480 days of paid parental leave, and generous welfare ensuring nobody ends up on the street etc. etc. There are many more things, but you get the idea. Plus our wages are pretty good to begin with. I happily pay a little higher taxes if it means nobody has to worry about financial ruin or surviving, not to mention all the conveniences it gives.
Here's a secret, you don't have to pay the bill in whole.
Mark Topma I don’t thinks so.
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance- wealth, a great career, purpose-is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life..
A friend that I referred to her just received €61,050 profit after 6days of investing.... I became jealous.. Lol
I'm not here to converse for her but to testify just for what I'm sure of,
I've never heard or seen any of her clients complain of lost....I think she's just too perfect.
Oh Yes I can believe that, I'm a living testimony.
I met Mrs Serenay mathieu last year for the first time at a conference in London,,
My fiancé had an abscess tooth due to putting off dental care (another gigantic cost in the US) He went to the ER to get antibiotics. Took a total of 5 minutes but he was billed $1800. We still had to pay out of pocket for the antibiotics at the pharmacy after that. The $1800 was solely for a doctor to write a prescription.
This is horrible! I don't have to pay anything for dental care, hospital or anything else in Slovenia. I hope he is ok.
@@Bojan_V You pay 40% more in taxes to cover it, the op doesnt have private insurance which is why they paid so much...normally it would only be $20
Sick of hearing the argument about you pay move in taxes. So do you, but it goes to funding your military. The same money of US citizens goes to fund Israhell.
the 1800 was ER use not doctors fee. doctors probably get 50$ rest is facility fee.
@@rubinaameerali what I meant was this ordeal cost us $1800 total.
My dad was diagnosed with cancer in the US. He’s a naturalized US citizen but retained his Japanese citizenship. He went to Japan for treatment. 100% covered by universal health.
Edited to address Rod Buchan (the hater). My dad receives income in both Japan and the United States and has always paid income taxes in both countries. Not everything is looking to cheat the government.
NEVER let dad renounce the Japanese citizenship..
That's great. If i may ask how's your dad doing now?
Smart man.
No. Not if he had lived and worked in the US for most or all of his adult life, then he is cheating Japanese tax payers who fund their own service. This is one of the weaknesses of Universal healthcare systems. Too many outsiders who have never contributed to the system seem to feel that they are entitled to use it.
@@CoherentChimp what if you got to choose between paying 3.000.000$ or benifiting from another countries system?
America is a country full of freedom and happiness, but only for the rich.
Capital Gains Tax is a fun thing to try
@@hurricanemeridian8712 it actually is, when you get everything else for free
@@yeahbutontheotherhand Like education, right?
@@keksoslav1743 yes
*white
I have a $43,000+ hospital bill that has gone thru 3 different debt collectors. I found an error in the original hospital bill and I always point it out to every debt collector. I have not paid a single cent on any of it. If you can find any sort of error from a medical bill, point it out to the debt collector and they are less likely to come after you because they don't want to spend a lengthily period of time trying to collect a single debt. Remember, the hospital charges you MASSIVELY and they sell the debt for pennies on the dollar to debt collectors. It's a messed up system.
Listen...I was programmer for a Medicare health care department. When someone dies those hospitals still want their share for resources used. And the CFOs and Lawyers are nasty when it comes to it. I remember when I gave a data presentation to a hospital execs on how we paid them thier money they insulted in me a sophisticated way becuase they said we owed them another 650k after we dished out 500k! The person died man. No remorse.
As a resident of the UK never again will I say a bad word about our National Health Sevice.
If you lucky enough to find a good GP.
I've been on the NHS. I've been on the US "healthcare" system.
The NHS is better. Not perfect, but MILES above what we have here in the US.
hi, lucy, I am a Chinese overseas student living in the UK now. NHS is a great system, even though it charge me a fee each year. but i chose not to go to the US because their ridiculous medical system. it is infamous
I shake my head every time I hear the Brits and Canadians complaining about their healthcare systems I’ve lived in both countries and have experienced both systems listen here you have it way better actually you have it good
honestly we dont have anything to complain other than filled parking spaces and paying 7 quid to park our car lol
Holy I'm glad I'm not American. What a horrible place.
I hope you are happy with your high taxes and the government telling you what to think
STFU
@@johnsalchichon3605 I'm quite happy in the UK, where our healthcare is entirely tax funded, making it free at the point of use. Our taxes aren't really that high; in fact VAT has just been cut to 5%. No one is telling us what to think - in fact according to OFCOM regulations, TV media has to be unbiased.
@@johnsalchichon3605 @Harvey Whitehurst its funny to see an American saying that Europe is bad, eventhough media is less biased, everyone is insured in most countries, free education in many countries including universities, multi-party government in some countries to represent more of the population, less gun violence, less racism. And in some countries even the taxation is lower.
@@johnsalchichon3605 I pay 10 dollars for an x-ray if needed. I have good public transportation along with good amenities. If anything happens to me or my family, money is never an issue. I'm happy to tax 28% for that. I'm part of a community in a sort of sense. True, some countries have too high tax rate, and some too low.
Also, "telling you what to think"? And the US aren't doing that?
If the US wasn't so war hungry all the time, and perhaps spent a bit more on healthcare and infrastructure, things would be better.
Omg, this is me. I too had to sit on the floor to figure all those $2.6ml bills after I had my preemie twins. While pumping milk for two kids every 3 hours (to keep milk coming) I had to hang on the phone with a hospital and physicians office for hours to figure out which is what. Cought many mistakes and double bills. Overall we paid $25k for the whole pregnancy, delivery and NICU saga + $350 monthly for pregnancy insurance for 9 months. It's so very different for me, as in my home country (Russia) having kids is inexpensive. Most of the costs are covered by the State. I would just pay one fee prior delivery ($2k ish) and never see a single bill. Oh, well. Glad it's over and my twins are healthy and happy. Cheers to all mothers out there! Be strong and triple check those bills! ❤
This year (2021), I have paid EUR 1915 in healthcare insurance premiums and this covered several visits to my physician, three X-ray photo's and 75% of my dental healthcare bills (corresponding medication included if any was needed).
I had to copay EUR 175 for visiting a medical specialist, but these costs can never go higher than EUR 385, annually.
So my healthcare costs can never exceed EUR 2300 per year (about 2600 USD) and should I ever need expensive treatmen for like cancer or if I'm ever going to need an organ transplant, the costs are covered.
It may seem expensive and a waste of money as long as you don't need any healthcare, but the day you do need it; you'll be glad that there's a system that helps you pick up the bill!
I am a Canadian and a few years ago my wife became very ill during a trip we took to San Francisco. She had to be taken to the hospital to be treated there. It was weird going to the emergency room there on a typical day. The first thing they asked was "How are you paying for this?". The doctor and emergency room was hidden until you passed the cashier. Fortunately we purchased travel insurance before our trip. Once we got our paperwork was done we got to go into the emergence room. It was EMPTY. Like no patients. That was very eerie to us. Obviously we got to see a doctor right away. He checked her over did some blood work and a CT scan because she had passed out in the hotel room prior to going to the hospital. She was given an IV to increase her fluid level and we were sent back to the hotel. The total cost for a 2 hour visit was $11,000. That's when it hit me that many people are afraid to go to the hospital because of the cost. I asked a nurse about it and she said that even those with insurance are afraid as they are not sure that their insurance will approve and cover the costs. The next day we headed home with my wife still very ill. Once we landed I took her straight to the hospital. Yep back in Canada and to a full emergency waiting room. She was triaged by a nurse and were given a bed right away skipping many of the people who have been there a long time. In Canada we are not treated by first come first serve but by the severity of your need. After some initial assessment she was transferred to a bed in the hospital for further diagnosis. By this time she was extremely ill. Her only symptom was sever diarrhea which would happen 10-15 times a day. She was constantly dehydrated and very low on potassium despite being given plenty of IV fluids with potassium. After a battery of tests and scans it was determined that she had a rare pancreatic cancer called VIPoma. She went into surgery and had the tumor removed. Her total time in the hospital was 2 months and it cost us $0 dollars. So even though the Canadian system is flawed I can say that I will take it over the American system just based on cost alone.
Have you paid the $11,000 in SF? Thats crazy.
@@SS-D Fortunately our travel insurance paid for the cost.
@@watchusaiyankakaren yeah for sure, my dad always tells me go where your treated best. Got the hell outta there. Now living in malaysia working lite and more than decent lifestyle.
Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.
Our son was listless with a blocked intestine (intasusseption - sp?) when visiting Vancouver Canada and we went to emergency. The first thing I said was what kind of travel insurance we had and that we should see if they cover it. The hospital said don’t worry about that we’ll will figure it out later - we treat everyone regardless anyways...We moved back to Canada a few years later. Not sure why Americans are so afraid of a socialized medical system.
On top of this, you guys also have student loans to pay.
Does the air you breathe also costs something??
Sounds exactly like "thneedville" from the lorax. Pay for air.
Yes, my grandmother is on bottled oxygen. The air she breathes literally comes with an invoice.
@@duddude321 I'm sorry I laughed at this but jesus Christ, the fact that Americans can make excuses for their healthcare system is lunacy
Actually,,, yeah. My inhaler costs around $150 WITH insurance coverage without it I wouldn't be able to breathe. One time I had to get an emergency refill at a pharmacy that wasn't covered by our insurance and I simply couldn't afford it so I had to wait until I got home to use an old one. And I'm an overall HEALTHY person with GOOD insurance I can't imagine what other people with chronic illnesses deal with
@@rosie4093 WTF is the point of insurance then, the US healthcare system with never make sense & any American who thinks it does is a brainwashed loon
My mother is getting a hip replacement in Spain today. She's Spanish.
It's for free.
Free PCR test before entering the hospital, free pretest on what you're allergic to (metals, etc), free surgery, free anesthesia, free hospital bed for as long as she needs, free pills and care while she recovers, etc.
Next year she might do the other hip.
We love paying taxes to fund this system. Everyone here does.
Nobody is poor because of it.
Moral degradation, greed, corruption, lack of concern for people in need, ignorance, stupidity, and selfishness come to mind. I'm 71 and things weren't this way when I was a kid. It's like since I was a kid there's been a gradual downward slide of society's collective soul.
Why is it so expensive? Because so many Americans are willing to put up with such a dreadful system. And even defend it.
UncleFeedle I honestly don’t understand why? They’re brainwashed into thinking everything that’s not Extreme Capitalism is Socialism.
I think that the problem in America has become too large to be solved by even the government.
The medical industry spends a boatload of cash on lobbying, and its not like lobbying will end in the US anytime soon.
In my country, its still expensive af even with Medishield and Medisave.
I won't defend any of it. Half of my family is in the medical industry as nurses surgeons and ceo's but Its not hard to see its a scam.. not sure what you want people to do? If you are hurt or need medical attention you can't protest the hospital and just go off to the woods to die? It is ridiculous the way its set up
its because America is a business run by companies who claimed to be a country and the US govt supports it. Americans became numb to it eventually and are suffering everyday.
Worlds No 1 Economy my ass.
@@sakhawatrahman4961 I know right! I've been watching a lot of videos about the differences between Australia and America. For a country that boasts its the best in the world i have to say I am rather unimpressed by a lot of what I've learned. Seems like a lot of Americans are simply repeating what they have been told and haven't actually experienced the benefits of other western nations.
Americans pay for police, military, fire, teachers, roads etc. but when it comes to healthcare. Some people think its "socialism"
Thats successful brainwashing by the industry
Never mind ‘socialism’ they’ve been brainwashed to believe its Communism!
Americans still pay a lot of taxes though, but they don't get anything compared to their European counterparts.
so ironic....
Update your news, they stop paying teachers a long time ago (jk, they just don’t pay them enough to live).
UAE has the best health insurance specially for low earning class. My wife gave birth to one of the most expensive hospital in Abu Dhabi. First class facility. From admitting her in to giving birth to spending 3 days in a private room, I paid 15$, yes fifteen USD. When we left the hospital we have a free diapers, milk and a stroller.
My wife gave birth to one of the most expensive hospital in Abu Dhabi
How much did they pay her for that hospital :D
I don't understand this system, it's a nightmare!
"Hello, I would like to return the heart transplant, it stopped working when I saw my bill."
Aeon 😂
Omg 😂😂😂😂
Sorry sir. No refunds
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You want HOW MUCH? Come take it back!
how can you possibly defend this system. You literally have people choosing between paying a bill that could bankrupt them or foregoing vital care
We don't. Our government officials are corrupt because the insurance companies as well as the bank are lobbying them.
would someone just think of the shareholders?! and what if thue CEO can't buy his 4th yacht this year?!
people dont defend this system, the money in the system defends itself.
0ther countries do not have armed forces that cost many billions of billions, all countries have military personnel, but Americans spend more than the next 10 largest armed forces in the word together! this only to benefit half a dozen Americans, it has nothing to do with defending America, it has to do with subjugating other countries, so that large American companies can control the resources of those countries.
nobody really defends it on their good mind
only people working for the businesses who profit from it defend it
Well I know a guy who served in the army for 37 years and retired a full four-star general he has all the benefits and he’s now in his 90s and lives in a retirement home with his wife I don’t think he got screwed over.
My heart goes to all american citizens. That sounds like a dustopia. You are stronger and I hope you will get through this somehow. Someday you will be free.
I think we are doomed, America gets worse throughout the years. Now we learn that the leading cause of death for children in America is gun violence. Something that is ignored.
I don't think this situation will ever get better. Sorry.
😂😂
It wont be free unless America stop being ruled by the corporations and the Rothschilds and Co. and gave the power back to people. It has been over 150 years since America turned into a Corporation.
Nurse cannot afford medicine for her own kid.. tells you everything.. there is only couple people on top to cash up on those medical bills.. its ridicilous
I remember doctors sounding warning bells back in the 70s about the for-profit corporations taking over hospitals. Now all their worst fears have come true and nobody seems to remember that they tried to stop it.
it's all because of insurance
And the alarms when Blue Cross/Blue Shield gave up their nonprofit status.
no one seems to remember anything any more.
@ls7orBust In this case the only things getting innovated are billing systems
ls7orBust what’s the point of innovation if it’s not used in a manner that helps the people? It’s like having a billion dollars that you’re not allowed to touch. I would rather have just a dollar that I could do anything with.
America: pay 100 trillion dollars out of your own pocket or die.
Europe: just pay like 10 euros and we're good.
but some poor rich people have to pay more taxes.
@@MrAntidodo not just the rich all people pay, its not called socialism but solidarity
Canada: Just relax and you'll be fine.
@Vladimir Putin that's not the definition of socialism
@Vladimir Putin wrong, there are different types of socialism but they all require the state to own the means of production. Paying taxes doesn't have anything to do with socialism
I'm glad I don't live in the US, love to travel there but to live in a society where an accident can cost you hundred of thousands of dollars.
Something as simple as a sprained ankle can cost you your home!!!
USA better spending $2Trilion for War
Those $2Trilion can be support free healthcare system for millions people
I absolutely hate the United States health care system. This is really unethical
It is not just unethical. It is immoral!
Remember that there is a president who got rid of Obamacare and rather introduced a system that simply says 'just stop being poor'
Clearly the biggest problem here is greed...
Profit incentives create innovative solutions to large problems.
unfortunately its not just an American problem, there is greed everywhere, in every industry and in every aspect of our lives. its just something that will never go away.
Ignorance and stupidity, too.
Nah Stupidy. If it was just Greed it wouldn't be so complicated. When it comes to healthcare you don't have obviscate the facts to take more money, you just take it. But people try and make it complicated because they are stupid and they thinks its better.
@ls7orBust snake oil salesmen, cheap, insane margins, psychosomatic effect...patient stops complaining as a result of the succeeding permanent condition. greed drives get rich quick schemes, quacks and the sale of insanely overpriced and overhyped sugarpills if not regulated. greed gets a shkreli / 10
the US healthcare system seems to be some gordian knot that would have to be cut and completely restructured from top to bottom, with most of its elements placed in area's where no corporate monopolies can be formed and no need for buffer funds arises. private parts can stay in easily renegotiable positions as to have the market work on that...but not on the essentials of healthcare. just doing that can massively reduce costs, as you no longer have to deal with sales margin stacking (3 steps down the line a products price can go up to 8X the production costs and that is assuming the company is not penny pinching its customer)
point is that that complete restructuring won't happen as long as the dogs are still fighting over their piece of the pie..and from where I'm standing, the US government is a competitor in that particular fight.
That woman should just use that money to fly to the UK and then become a British citizen because that's way better than paying 4 mill and her son could have a longer life
Eight years ago I was working at a mall cleaning at nights. No insurance and the county funded therapy and meds. County funding got cut off and medications, after a few years. So, my mental health got worse and I couldn't work anymore because of the cuts. Keeping people in poverty is actually costing everyone in the United States more money.
America is like a 3rd world country that's run by rich corporations.
i didn''t know 3rd world countries offer you 10$ hour minimal wage.
@@jinxd511 Some politicians wanted to eliminate the minimum wage.
@@ironmantis25 so?
there is no minimum wage is several EU countries so what?
@@jinxd511 Those countries also have universal healthcare.
@@jinxd511 lol they do have suicide nets however
It's called extortion.
Normally when people say "pay or die" we put them in jail, but when medical companies and insurance companies do it we sit and do nothing.
When they issue license to steal they do, its not hard to figure out who they they are and who the licenses goes too!
@@77.88.
I don't know what that has to do with what I said.
So, if you have cancer, and are broke, what happens?
@@nikolai502 It may spread or not, you may die or survive.
Yeah, because it is you own responsibility to assume your own risk and you should not be able to force other people to pay for you.
The UK nhs is the best. Even Trinidad and Tobago have universal healthcare because their healthcare is based on the UK system. I had a kidney stone. 5 days stay in the hospital plus full body scan for stones cost me zero dollars. That's why I would never leave Trinidad for the USA.
$400,000 so far is my medical expenses. I have breast cancer and having treatment for almost 11 months now.
I feel bad for those Americans. School fees, medical fees... Its ridiculous how expensive it is. Everyone should have access to quality healthcare and education. Regardless if you are poor or not. Im lucky i dont live there.
Capitalism man
@@ayamefubuki capitalism is everywhere,medical bills aren't.
@Sam it's all relative,if you live in a third world country then the US is the promised land,for those of us in first world countries I doubt many would pick the US as a choice.
@@DomingoDeSantaClara let's be honest the US is a third world country with a first world paint job.
Blame the rich they wanted that to happen it aint the 60s anymore where anyone can afford to live a middle class lifestyle, afford school and afford medical for those without medical insurance
An ambulance ride is ridiculous, I drove myself to hospital last week when I was having trouble breathing. I thought to myself if I die that ambulance company wouldn't get part of my estate.
Sad thing is the private ambulance companies in San Diego for example pay their paramedics $13.00 per hour. That’s for trained paramedics!! Where’s the money going?
I got a $2,000 bill for an ambulance ride when I was younger. This was my first taste of the medical system and I was absolutely blown away.
I was 18 making $10 an hour
You could have killed someone on the road
A1 Medical system would be finally responsible for that. That's how things start to change sadly.
$3000 for two drops in my eyes I had to pay ...
What do people do with no medical insurance? We go home and die.
Imagine if they actually shared the stats about how many people die because they didn't get help they needed. Parents ,children, Guardians, service workers, cooks, writers. Real people. That could have made a real difference if greed didn't destroy them.
Great thought! I read of a horrible account of a young boy who died because his mother could not afford dental insurance. He got a cavity that lead to blood poisoning. The infection that took his life was Strep---which is easily treated with penicillin. It is shocking that for want of a basic antibiotic we let kids die here in the US.
first world country without free healthcare. lmao
there is no such thing as "free healthcare", it's called universal healthcare and it's paid for largely with taxes on everything you earn or buy
@@matthi_be So you guys pay same amount of hospital bills as tax???
Dude you're ridiculous
This way of thinking made US the worst country in the world
@@pranaym3859 you need to learn how to read or comprehend a sentence. All I said is "free healthcare" does not exist. You may not pay anything or only a small amount to the doctor or the hospital, but that is because the government pays the rest, and how do they do that, LARGELY with money they got through taxes. I'm not american btw, I live in Belgium and I have excellent healthcare through the universal healthcare provided by the government and my employer
@Tala Duweik
, there's no "free lunch" ... if your or other countries have "free healthcare", it's because you already paid it in taxes! For example Brazil have free healthcare that sucks ! The government slam the poor Brazilians in taxes ! They tax everything including essentials like other countries (US for example) exempt some essentials of taxes...
So at the end, you already paid it, but you didn't know !
Also we have unpaid maternity leaves. Something most other first world countries also have.
We're far from a perfect country. We do need to fix a few things.
Land of the Fee, home of the debt slave
Yup. And how do YOU vote?
we are the land of slaves and indentured servants rules by the aristocrat 1%
@imaprouduclabruin my husband makes 6 figures and works in healthcare. He knows that we are one serious illness away from losing everything. You are not safe unless you are in the top .1%
Yep, all of these foreign people have no clue how to manage money.
USA has a lot of problem that needs to be dealt with
That’s because our healthcare system is for profit and unless you have insurance which can deny you for any reason you can go bankrupt for one simple procedure
How could all of the Americans are okay with this stupid healthcare system?I don’t know if I made a wrong decision moving to this Country.struggling with insurance and medical costs here now that I never had in my life
Person-Pays 100,000 for surgery
Hospital-charges you to park while you fork over your life savings to not die
It's $7 every time I go see any of my specialists. Ridiculous.
$25 for more than 1hr...WTF!!!
Are you serious? Jesus
They do be charging fees 😂 I work for them 😂
Wait they even charge for parking at hospital parking lot..you serius.
Finally, I understood the reason why the ambulances in USA are very responsive. When something bad happens to a person, they see a customer.
And the systems are designed to push people into a bad situation as such.
Yeah, where do you live? In most areas of the country (read that "rural areas") you can grow old waiting for an ambulance.
It's not a health system, it's a health industry.
@@DV-zv4ox you hit the nail on the head.
@@DV-zv4ox medical industry
Too many leeches in the system. If you work in a hospital and actually take care of patients just look around and count all the people wandering around who do nothing but impede care. A priority in US Healthcare is those people get there 6-7 figure incomes.
Someone who I went to school with died last year because the family couldn't raise up enough money in time to pay. He was 24, maybe 23. Soon after his wife posted pictures of his ashes. He had two kids
This is terrible! How can that be?! Those insurance companies are greedy and evil.
Not just Western European countries, but countries such as Taiwan or Turkey have a much more advanced and functioning healthcare system than the US.
Taiwan is prosperous and Democratic.
Not Poland. Our Healthcare is just on life support.
@@sienkiewiczmonika1161 still better than US, you are not paying milions on operations, be grateful that it is working at least
I’m Taiwanese-American, and once when I was staying over at Taiwan I caught a cold. It really wasn’t that bad (real sore throat and light fever), but my dad insisted I should see a professional. They gave me meds and let me use this little machine thingy so my throat would stop feeling like death. Which was freaking wild to me, because in America I could be throwing my guts up and we would stay home and eat over the counter medicine. And for things like colds, doctors here would probably prescribe water and bed rest, I guess. Maybe I’m wrong, but in America the whole concept of walking in to see a professional and getting actual medicine/care without paying a lot is out of the world. It’s just really sad...
Yes that's true. As a person who lived in Turkey many years, I noticed that doctors who work at the free government hospitals will give you lower quality of attention and care (in comparison with private hospitals) and longer queues but almost everything is free which impressed me a lot! Also a friend of mine told me, even their universities are free. She said "free healthcare and education for everyone" are two very important things in their constitution that can never be changed.
After I had my son they sent him a $150 for ' presence at birth'. They billed a three week old for being present at his own birth!
That’s insane.
Where do they wanted him to be?
@@bwololo7469 no idea. Him being present was kinda a requirement since ya know it was HIS birth and all
Lol he got the discount special, maybe if he gets another baby to become present at their own birth, he could get a referral finders fee as an incentive, lol
I bet he 'll avoid being born from now on!
So if you fall sick, get into a car accident, have a bad pregnancy and birth, and are in need of surgery you will end up paying that for the rest of your life in the us. That’s scary
Only if you have crappy insurance
Depressing to see there is no humanity left.
Me: *Gets in an accident*
Person: 91-
Me: No its too expensive
and that lies the major issue. People put off their small medical issues until it becomes a huge issue.
Mace Universe it’s true. There are people with like epilepsy who they Put on their bracelets that if they have a seizure not to call the ambulance. Because it’s too expensive even if it’s bad
@@emilyyamasaki4968 Really!?
Mace Universe yeah. CZcamsr Evan Edinger (I believe that’s his name) is a A CZcamsr who used to live in the United States and then move to the UK. He made a video with two of his friends talking about the NHS and how the US is with healthcare
Me: Just leave me, I cant pay the bills...
Bro not four thousand, not 4 hundred thousand, 4 MILLION dollars. They save your life just so you have to pay them back every day for the rest of it
Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.
They should have gone across the border and it would have cost about $100k and the insurance company would have paid it in full.
@@paull3179 How do you know that? Only if the policy allows it which I doubt.
@@dannylengyel5830 If it does not it is still cheap to pay vs paying to a US hospital. Many Americans go to the top tourist hospitals in India.
@@usts6su19 who is first?
It just seems like death more peaceful than being destroyed by the bills....
Agree
I once went to a checkup it cost me 749.00 just for a checkup
I live in Norway.
My mom had a kidney transplant in here.
She had two surgeries, hospital stay up to three months, medication, taxi transport at least 100 times in total and doctor check up.
All that cost her around 500 dollar per year.
And she did not lose any money she got paid full time by the government for not being able to work.
Trump wants us to come to the USA thanks, but no thanks.
Can I come to Norway ?
I'm a nice guy !
@@frankblanco7163 If you're a nice guy, then ofc you can come :) But please! Learn the language and culture, it's only fair.
frank blanco That’s not up to me dude :)
That's what happens when you don't have Laiss Faire capitalism control your country. If only America started to learn from countries like Norway, it sounds like a great place to live!
@@purplemamba5510 I think Norway's case is a bit different than it's a problem of capitalism. Norway is more of going from a more socialist structure to a less socialist structure. The US is going in the opposite direction. Also Laisse Faire Capitalism doesn't mean that companies can use the government to protect their monopolies. If some guy takes your $1000 drug and reverse engineers it selling it for $0.01 the very next day. That is Laisse Faire Capitalism.
I prefer European reality over the American dream.
AtheistFundamentalis you mean letting in terrorists unrestricted and if any natural European speaks out, they are labeled a bigot or Islamophobe? Sounds like the European reality is a global nightmare. The American Dream is far better because you get to work for it. You reap what you sow.
@@manoftruth0935 ah yes the joy of working for your dream then on your way home you get hit by a truck get into a coma for 3 weeks and when you get out of hospital you get hit by a 1million dollar bill yes thats the american dream
David Cappadoccia the terrorist attack are often way more deathly than in Europa, besides that in the USA alone there are more terrorist attack than in Europa, that are facts 🤷♂️. I live in the Netherlands aswell btw.
David Cappadoccia I did a bit of research, America is rank 66 in the world of International peace and security. Get out of your bubble about how great America is. The only things America are number one on is school shootings....
@@manoftruth0935 Hahahahaha!!!
Was charged $800 after seeing a doctor for i swear to God 2 minutes, that's not including the $1200 for the hospital+$20 for radiology,i got full insurance that i pay close to $100 a month,i will think long and hard about having a family in a society like this ✍️✍️
in india 500 people get treatment in same amount of USA 1 person bill..