The Real Peter Mandelson

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  • čas přidán 17. 09. 2017
  • Donald Macintyre's documentary was broadcast on 25 April 1999 as part of a series marking the second anniversary of the Labour government, but may have been greenlit before Mandelson's sudden resignation in December.
    Interviews: Miles Mandelson (brother), Steve Howell (school friend), Graham Good (from the Winchester Youth Club), Trevor Phillips (former President, National Union of Students), David Aaronovitch (journalist), David Cox (Editor, Weekend World), Neil Kinnock (Leader of the Labour Party), Colin Byrne (Labour Party Chief Press Officer), Joy Johnson (ITN Producer), Andy McSmith (Labour Party Press Officer), Tom Sawyer (Labour Party General Secretary), David Hill (Labour Party Head of Press), John Burton (Agent to Tony Blair), Robert Harris (author and journalist), Derek Draper (Assistant to Peter Mandelson), Benjamin Wegg-Prosser (Adviser to Peter Mandelson), Anne McElvoy (journalist), Sarah Hunter (assistant to Peter Mandelson), Robin Butler (Head of the UK Civil Service), Jack Straw (Home Secretary).

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  • @leosammallahti239
    @leosammallahti239 Před 6 lety +44

    Thank you so much for uploading these videos, we have watched all of your political documentaries with my girlfriend and routinely check if you have uploaded more. Documentaries and stuff regarding the Labour Party are especially interesting.

  • @watchingyou245
    @watchingyou245 Před 3 lety +19

    In his first incarnation, as Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, he lasted less than five months in 1998.
    He was undone on that occasion by the revelation that he had bought a fashionable home in Notting Hill, with the help of an interest-free £373,000 loan from his millionaire ministerial colleague Geoffrey Robinson.
    When Mr Mandelson filled in a Britannia Building Society mortgage form to buy the house in 1996 he had failed to mention the loan. Nor did it appear on his entry in the Commons Register of Interests.
    After joining the Cabinet he also did not bring the loan to the attention of his Permanent Secretary, even though Mr Robinson's business links were at that time under investigation by Mr Mandelson's own department.
    Tony Blair had vowed that his Government, in contrast to the Conservatives, would be "whiter than white" and Mr Mandelson had to go.
    He admitted being "technically" wrong in not telling his building society about the loan but, even though he resigned, insisted he had done nothing improper.
    That left his path open, once the furore had died down, for a return to the Cabinet only 10 months later in the crucial post of Northern Ireland Secretary.
    He lasted more than a year this time before another scandal erupted.
    It related to a previous ministerial role, when he had responsibility for the Millennium Dome, and centred on newspaper accusations that he helped the Indian billionaire Srichand Hinduja to secure a British passport in return for a £1 million donation to help fund the Dome's Faith Zone.
    When the story broke Mr Mandelson said an inquiry about Mr Hinduja's passport application had been dealt with by his Private Secretary, not him personally.
    That led to the Prime Minister's spokesman Alastair Campbell inadvertently misleading the media and Chris Smith, the then Culture Secretary, doing the same with MPs in the Commons.
    It soon became apparent from Home Office records that Mr Mandelson had personally telephoned Home Office Minister Mike O'Brien.
    Their conversation related to whether a passport application from Mr Hinduja would be reconsidered following a change in government policy.
    After being contacted by Downing Street Mr O'Brien confirmed that he remembered having a two-minute telephone conversation with Mr Mandelson.
    Mr Mandelson was then forced to resign as Northern Ireland Secretary but, once again, maintained he had done nothing wrong.
    He blamed his second departure on a "muddle" that led to himself and other senior figures giving conflicting accounts.
    A subsequent independent report into the so-called "cash for passports" affair by Sir Anthony Hammond QC found in Mr Mandelson's favour, concluding that neither he, nor anyone else, had done anything improper in the affair.
    Despite that there appeared little prospect of a resurrection for his twice foiled Cabinet career and a long walk into the political wilderness loomed.
    Mr Mandelson had been one of the key architects of New Labour, replacing the party's red flag logo with the red rose and pioneering the use of rapid rebuttal units, radiopagers for MPs and the repetitive television soundbite.
    But he was always deeply unpopular with those who clung to traditional Labour values and regarded him as a champagne socialist.
    Whether true or not the story that he once mistook mushy peas for "guacamole dip" at a fish and chip shop in Hartlepool says much about how he was viewed by some of his colleagues.
    When he stood up in Hartlepool in 2001, after keeping his seat in Parliament in the General Election, Mr Mandelson gave a bizarre, emotionally charged speech in which he proclaimed "I am a fighter, not a quitter" and referred to his "inner steel".
    That was greeted by many as the last throes of a politician on the way to oblivion and one election worker at Labour headquarters was heard to say: "He's truly lost it."

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 Před 6 měsíci

      Then he became a highly influential cabinet minister again in 2008-10. Omitted that bit for some reason

  • @mikew608
    @mikew608 Před 3 lety +12

    Every time I watched Mandelson on TV, his pompous self absorbed ego dominated over what he was actually saying, the unnerving alliance with Blair's New Labour didn't help.

  • @TheSuperLegoMan100
    @TheSuperLegoMan100 Před 2 lety +8

    lmao that zoom in on the falling flowers, slow fade to mandelson's face. truly terrifying

  • @Jerseypete8
    @Jerseypete8 Před 5 lety +19

    How was a person allowed to get so much influence as this man..

    • @leecarney4373
      @leecarney4373 Před 2 měsíci

      By turning up
      I lose my mind at ppl who see nefarious conspiracy any time someone gets power, political party meetings are so sparsely populated these days you could get real power if you had some ability and could be bothered showing up so I’ve got no time for ppl who cry that ppl who can be bothered actually gain some power

  • @davelowe1977
    @davelowe1977 Před 6 lety +21

    I can't believe that all this happened nearly 20 years ago.

    • @dreamdiction
      @dreamdiction Před 3 lety +1

      Twenty fucking years which has dumped us so deep in the shit that we now ask "has everything hitler warned us about come true"?

    • @peterembranch5797
      @peterembranch5797 Před 3 lety

      @@dreamdiction What??!!

    • @dreamdiction
      @dreamdiction Před 3 lety +1

      @@peterembranch5797 Look around you, everything he warned us about has come true. British and French declared war on Germany and made allies with Stalin to stop Germany destroying communism.

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 Před 3 lety +2

      ‘New Labour’ sewed the seeds of destruction in the country.

    • @bruh949
      @bruh949 Před rokem +1

      @@pippipster6767 Fax John Major was such a good PM, but people believe the MSM lies put out to overshadow the great things the Major gov did and people voted for B-Liar. Ironically 1997 is officially the year there British Empire ended…

  • @garypowell8638
    @garypowell8638 Před 5 lety +28

    Mandelson represents not only what is wrong with the Labour Party, but what is wrong with The World in general and British politics in particular. A classic example of what happens when the end justifies the means.

  • @mscott3918
    @mscott3918 Před 4 lety +11

    I don't think that there is such a thing as the real Peter Mandelson.

  • @jmasl7
    @jmasl7 Před rokem +5

    something of the night about him

  • @colinhastings6638
    @colinhastings6638 Před 5 lety +26

    Undeniably ambitious man who backed both horses, Blair and Brown, in those early days and though stopped in his tracks by his own greed and stupidity, is living a very nice Champagne Socialist life like his mentor, Neil K.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +6

      It wasn't a case of 'both horses' then. There were many 'horses'. Mandleson backed Blair and Brown because they were from his wing of the party - he wanted either of them to win as opposed to someone from the left.

  • @futtocks23
    @futtocks23 Před 5 lety +9

    Kinnock like father like son

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd Před 6 lety +9

    Instead of 'The Real Peter Mandelson,' for a horrified moment I thought it said 'The Rev Peter Madelson'

  • @pippipster6767
    @pippipster6767 Před 3 lety +5

    His moustache looks like a very unwilling participant 🤣

    • @petermacleod5710
      @petermacleod5710 Před 3 lety +3

      It was a signal at that time, like the ring on the little finger is now

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 Před 5 lety +14

    Malevolent slime who tore the heart out of the Labour Party

  • @slowdivebreeze1
    @slowdivebreeze1 Před 6 lety +8

    I agree with Leo, I do find the Labour Party docs way more interesting than Tory ones, it must be to do with the characters involved.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +4

      The Labour Party sadly has always been something of a self made soap opera

  • @mikewellwood1412
    @mikewellwood1412 Před 4 lety +2

    This is fascinating stuff. But of course, it's now way out of date. I'd like to see an up to date version. PM did plenty after this period.

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 Před 3 lety +5

    What sort of socalism did he represent, certainly not that which our grandfathers fought for, he represented himself. This is the unacceptable face of our political class,

  • @19sept76
    @19sept76 Před 6 lety +26

    Modernisation of the Labour party Stuff the working class

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 Před 6 lety +7

      blair ruined labour

    • @19sept76
      @19sept76 Před 6 lety +7

      No doubt he did but look at the rubbish we have in now, mostly middle class liberals who not only have never had a proper job , hate the working class

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 Před 6 lety +4

      tbf on corbyn i think he cares more about the working class than blair did. he's an actual socialist for starters and for years now he's kept the same view. he's the first real labour leader since foot

    • @MarineAqua45
      @MarineAqua45 Před 6 lety +4

      stanley james Lol Mandleson, Blair & Campbell made it all electable. It worked well.

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 Před 6 lety +2

      it was electable before new labour. remember how popular smith was before he died or how unpopular major was 1992-1997. labour won 1997 because people hated major

  • @geraldberliner5260
    @geraldberliner5260 Před 6 lety +9

    Peter Meddlesome

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 Před 5 lety +6

    The worst of the New Labour cronies. Tore the heart and soul out of the Labour Party

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety

      what, by winning three elections? Is the 'heart and soul' of the Labour Party to lose every election to the Tories just so you can wallow in self righteousness? You lot are an absolute bunch of morons. Your moral vanity and self indulgence is off the Richter Scale. You betray everyone that you claim to care for, just so you can feel good about how "superior" your morality is. If you want to see what ripped the heart and soul of the Labour Party, take a long hard look at Jeremy Corbyn instead. Worst electoral defeat for decades and destroying the party's reputation with the appalling anti-Semites whose support he accepted.

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser Před 5 lety +5

    Mandelson with a moustache looks Tooo much like Basil Fawlty..... :(

  • @chrish12345
    @chrish12345 Před 3 lety +4

    hes like something out of the Omen

  • @cycleSCUBA
    @cycleSCUBA Před 2 lety +2

    The Labour Aristocrat. I could never listen to and watch Mandelson without reminding myself he's in the Labour Party.

  • @winifredatwell3982
    @winifredatwell3982 Před 6 lety +7

    Mandelson me of Zachary Smith in Lost in Space. About as trustworthy.

  • @clonmore819
    @clonmore819 Před 5 lety +37

    Good socialist. Now a Lord, lives in a £10m home and has a pension £100,000 pa. No wonder Lord Kinnock thinks Peter is "made of good stuff".

    • @aislingmichaelaoneill1028
      @aislingmichaelaoneill1028 Před 5 lety +4

      Clonmore Class envy or crass envy?

    • @craigg4219
      @craigg4219 Před 3 lety +2

      @@aislingmichaelaoneill1028 envy? It's public money that's made him rich it's not like he built a business from scratch 😂😂😂 weird kid you

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 Před 3 lety +2

      Champagne socialism in full effect.

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 Před rokem

      The essence of socialism --- mansions for me, bog standard council estate for thee

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 Před 2 měsíci

    He has a bit of the character of his grandfather , Morrison who was constantly undermining Clem Attlee

  • @markwalsh2992
    @markwalsh2992 Před 5 lety +8

    I actually can’t understand how kinnock lost in 1992... against John sappy Major!! How did that happen??

    • @williamford8027
      @williamford8027 Před 5 lety +6

      The Sun wot won it

    • @mscott3918
      @mscott3918 Před 5 lety +12

      George Job Because, for all his faults and greyness, Major is that rare thing, a decent politician.

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 Před rokem

      His pride came before a fall

    • @grahamo7129
      @grahamo7129 Před 10 měsíci

      But he lied about Victorian values whilst carryout an extra marital affair with Edwina Currie; showing his true deceitful nature, ask his wife about his decency!@@mscott3918

    • @knoxyish
      @knoxyish Před 7 měsíci +1

      labour were actually worse

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq Před 5 lety +2

    3.44 STOP RIGHT THERE !!!!!!! & enjoy the hair.Nono go back & enjoy .

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser Před 5 lety +10

    Mandelson was Very slimy,etc.... :( Statistically there are More Millonairres/Billionairres in the Labour party than the Tory party.... :( Mandelson/Tony Blair/Tony Benn,etc,etc.... :(

  • @chrisjones3901
    @chrisjones3901 Před 4 lety +2

    He covers up scandles,a very dark man

  • @malcolmfew4162
    @malcolmfew4162 Před 3 lety +2

    This programme began with a stunt snd continued to describe a stunt throughout.

  • @duckndive.
    @duckndive. Před 3 lety

    Compounded, He wanted to be in charge and have things his way and would do anything to ensure it happened.

  • @iphonemodDOTcom
    @iphonemodDOTcom Před 5 lety +6

    I dunno about you but I'm always alarmed by floaters,usually after a curry.

  • @dommidavros2211
    @dommidavros2211 Před 6 lety +2

    What is wrong with these documentary makers? They forgot to mention that he was re employed in the cabinet!! Also why would you fire someone for taking out a legal loan??? Really stupid!

    • @DBIVUK
      @DBIVUK  Před 6 lety +7

      Mandelson rejoined the cabinet in October 1999 - so I'm not sure it's a big condemnation of a documentary completed in April 1999 that it failed to mention it. There is more to politics than mere legality; his resignation in December 1998 was more over the image problem when a senior government minister is enormously indebted to another.

  • @PETE4955
    @PETE4955 Před 2 lety +1

    An always irelevent political politicians.

  • @KimPhilby203
    @KimPhilby203 Před 2 měsíci

    More able in his own head than in reality..Labour now 15 years out of power...

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq Před 5 lety +2

    Is this about Pet Fondlbum ?.

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq Před 5 lety +1

    OH ok look at the plastic flowers in water !!.

  • @2490debrick
    @2490debrick Před 6 lety +11

    He sums up left-wing politics - scheming, righteous, perverse, and hypocritical!

  • @SuperBartles
    @SuperBartles Před 2 lety

    21:11 Joy Johnson starts a sentence and Clin Byrne (?) finishes. er, would be better to have the end of Ms Johnson‘s sentence and the beginning of the second one, surely? Bit of editorial license, to say the least...
    Nice to see Brian Walden, though. Weekend world was a magnificent programme, but I never realised just how leftwing it was, through and through. I don‘t know about David Cox but Aaronovitz, Peter Jay, Mandelson... Walden was brilliant but an ex-Labour MP. People don‘t realise who has been controlling news & current affairs coverage for years

  • @the19thcentury81
    @the19thcentury81 Před 5 lety +1

    It would be unfortunate to be him.

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd Před rokem

    Handy Mandy. _motto;_ We know where you live!

  • @juliancoulden1753
    @juliancoulden1753 Před 5 lety +5

    What a ridiculous little man he really is.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah, but he won elections, didn't he? Maybe the left of the labour party should try that some time.

  • @stephenmarimba3193
    @stephenmarimba3193 Před 2 lety

    Best

  • @jacobesmith12
    @jacobesmith12 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Horrific slimeball

  • @JK-br1mu
    @JK-br1mu Před 6 měsíci

    29:43 lol

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 Před 5 lety +6

    Peter Mandelson should know that the term "bourgeois" means nothing.

    • @azazelssprachen
      @azazelssprachen Před 15 dny

      On the contrary, he knew damn well that it meant people like him

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal370 Před 3 lety +1

    He is an out and out narcissist.

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 Před 21 dnem

    John Smith was right about him

  • @Ladynipchick2
    @Ladynipchick2 Před 5 lety +2

    I certainly can see why some people dislike him. But I'm not one of them. I wish him well.

  • @hugolindum7728
    @hugolindum7728 Před 6 lety +6

    Mandelson is only interested in money, Russian oligarchs, and boys.
    ”God knows when he ever got to bed.”
    Lol.

  • @andrewlouden3419
    @andrewlouden3419 Před 4 lety +1

    He seemed to have had a lot of “political advisors “

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +1

      is that some kind of slimy homophobic comment? All people in such positions have lots of advisers.

  • @margaretmorgan3693
    @margaretmorgan3693 Před 3 lety +3

    What horrible man Peter Mandelson is. I hope he gets what he deserves

    • @knoxyish
      @knoxyish Před 7 měsíci +1

      and all the new labour traitors

  • @JK-br1mu
    @JK-br1mu Před 11 měsíci

    "Look what he's become" yah he's not a totalitarian criminal like you, anymore.

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay Před 6 lety +2

    THAT'S AN EASY ANSWER, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH DRESS HE/SHE WEARS.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +5

      What the fuck? Mate, it's 2020. That may have been 'funny' in 1950, but that was 70 years ago. Now, it's just pathetic homophobia.

  •  Před 6 lety +1

    And NO mention of his Jewish ancestry!

    • @TedATL1
      @TedATL1 Před 6 lety +1

      JP VOGEL
      On one side.

    • @harmlessdrudge
      @harmlessdrudge Před 3 lety +1

      Is that relevant? I doubt he's religious.