Tony Benn | Labour Party | Political Struggle |1981

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  • čas přidán 24. 03. 2017
  • TV EYE reports the intense struggle already underway for the
    Autumn election for the job of Deputy Leader of the Labour
    Party At each of the major union conferences so far? its been a major issue - nobody doubting that whether or not the challenger Tony Berm unseats the incumbent Dennis Healey.
    First shown: 28/05/1981
    If you would like to license a clip from this video please e mail:
    archive@fremantlemedia.com
    Quote: VT24645
    16 MM film available

Komentáře • 139

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 Před 5 lety +49

    Tony had a great redeeming sense of humour and a way with words and phrases. His daughter Melissa is a charming person. Tony advised any person with a great truth to tell to speak it without fear or favour; and that is what I am trying to do.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu Před 2 lety

      Here's a great truth:
      far left economic policy makes the common man's life worse.

    • @toastedterps
      @toastedterps Před 9 měsíci +1

      Same, brother, same.
      God bless.

    • @matthewhendy5785
      @matthewhendy5785 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Great man.

  • @Liberaven
    @Liberaven Před 3 lety +17

    4:03 Corbyn spotted

  • @TheSuperLegoMan100
    @TheSuperLegoMan100 Před 2 lety +20

    Interesting that David Owen was exactly right: Dennis Healey did squeak home with just a few votes in the deputy leadership election

    • @vincentsmit1935
      @vincentsmit1935 Před 2 lety +6

      David Owen was right more often than people think, but less often than he does.

  • @leifkeane
    @leifkeane Před 6 lety +12

    Thanks for posting.

  • @uktravel8341
    @uktravel8341 Před 2 lety +11

    In reality coal-mining was declining in Britain since 1920 and there wasn't much Benn could have done about it. Other manufacturing industries from after the Second World War. All to do with foreign competition and the rise of powers like China and Japan- making an industrial working-class the mainstay of its support was a mistaken move for the Bennites.

  • @latinamerican1000
    @latinamerican1000 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Quality political reporting is not seen in the mainstream media anymore.

  • @shivrajb640
    @shivrajb640 Před 7 lety +53

    We need another Tony Benn!

    • @alfranco2177
      @alfranco2177 Před 7 lety +11

      so sad to watch this. These are the liberal cucks responsible for giving our country up to the alien invaders.

    • @allpoliticsnoeconomics4186
      @allpoliticsnoeconomics4186 Před 7 lety +5

      James Dowds I think by liberal cucks he was referring to the centre-left or the "right of the Labour party" who eventually won the war and allowed Labour to become more right wing than the Liberals. We never got a leader who fought for redistribution of wealth. John Smith died before he could wipe the floor with Major, then someone from your section of the spectrum won the leadership and therefore the country for 13 years. 38 years of neoliberalism has gotten us here. And if anyone doesn't like it, join your local Labour party and participate

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 Před 6 lety +9

      "alien invaders." their human beings you racist fuck

    • @whatamalike
      @whatamalike Před 5 lety +12

      We have one, he's called Jeremy Corbyn.

    • @thethirdman2135
      @thethirdman2135 Před 5 lety +6

      @@whatamalike , Jeremy corbyn cannot connect with British working class peoples concerns on immigration and love of country

  • @dalemartinpromotions4692
    @dalemartinpromotions4692 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dr David Owen’s speach at the fringe in Blackpool was absolutely class. “Fudging and muddging, Slush and Mush”

  • @amberpuga7322
    @amberpuga7322 Před 4 lety +12

    I so much admire Tony Benn to no end

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +2

      What on earth for? He was an eccentric demagogue, full of moral vanity and false piousness, whose stupidity condemned millions of working class people to years of Thatcher.

    • @amberpuga7322
      @amberpuga7322 Před 3 lety +5

      @@th8257 Bollocks coming from a Tories

    • @jonathanhadley2555
      @jonathanhadley2555 Před 3 lety

      T H Tony Benn actually gave up a Peerage & so easy could have been part of the Land & Gentry that have been pulling the strings behind the scenes:-(

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 2 lety

      @@amberpuga7322 no, coming from a labour voter who lived through the 80s and desperately wanted a labour government, but saw labour wrecked by Tony Benn. People like you need to grow the f*ck up. Politics isn't a hobby.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 2 lety

      @@jonathanhadley2555 i know all about his background. What's that got to do with anything? He was also a millionaire who fiddles his will to avoid tax. He hopelessly out of touch, and a terrible hypocrite. As someone who was around in those days, I can assure that most of the working class thought he was a clueless upper class eccentric

  • @richardsharpe2966
    @richardsharpe2966 Před 2 lety +8

    The reporter is Bryan Gould who later became a Labour MP now is a academic in his native New Zealand 🇳🇿

  • @politicalphilosophy-thegre3894

    Thanks.

  • @edmund184
    @edmund184 Před 5 lety +26

    Benn was certainly right on the European Union.

    • @thethirdman2135
      @thethirdman2135 Před 4 lety +9

      Corbyn now supports staying in the European union, what a kick in the teeth to labour leave voters

    • @everettduncan7543
      @everettduncan7543 Před 4 lety +2

      @@thethirdman2135 no wonder labour lost to the tories

    • @everettduncan7543
      @everettduncan7543 Před 3 lety +1

      @Sultan King yea that sounds like nonsense

  • @danhall6922
    @danhall6922 Před 4 lety +5

    Great man

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +1

      Great for Margaret Thatcher

    • @stormytempest3907
      @stormytempest3907 Před 3 lety +3

      @@th8257 Gang of 4 split the. Labour Vote!

  • @staceygrove5976
    @staceygrove5976 Před 10 měsíci +1

    13:47 I heard Benn speak at a public meeting in East London almost twenty years ago, and he was absolutely electrifying, despite the fact that he was suffering from leukaemia at the time and using a walking frame. Disappointing though that he refused to acknowledge Frank Chapple's criticisms in this clip.

  • @triciacol
    @triciacol Před 4 lety +14

    How we miss Benn(Tony) and Hitchens(Christopher)!!!

    • @harryantino
      @harryantino Před 4 lety

      Patricia et Colin Clegg two greats and I say that as conservative

    • @jayd4ever
      @jayd4ever Před 3 lety +2

      why christopher hitchens

    • @gamingwithslacker
      @gamingwithslacker Před rokem

      I love both Benn and Hitchens. Was Hitchens in this video ?

    • @jakehaymes4438
      @jakehaymes4438 Před 2 měsíci +1

      triciacol
      Agreed totally.

    • @RobertBurke-tq9zu
      @RobertBurke-tq9zu Před 15 hodinami

      Hitchens said he had differences with Benn, he never expanded on it, I wonder what they were.

  • @grahamjohn3198
    @grahamjohn3198 Před 3 lety +12

    4:03 Jeremy Corbyn in the audience.

  • @Harry-me1zq
    @Harry-me1zq Před 3 lety +5

    Growth in Public Services paid for by the Taxpayer that can't get help from Council services unless it's between 9/5 Mon/Friday.

  • @gjingodjango
    @gjingodjango Před 17 dny

    God bless Tony Benn.

  • @nedlightowlers5168
    @nedlightowlers5168 Před 4 lety +19

    In my opinion, we'd be much further along and more similar to Scandinavia in terms of living standards if Benn had won. It hurts.
    We are more powerful than we've been for decades. Do not give up.
    We have the middle class students who make up much of the membership on our side (they're fucked by this system too) - now we need to rebuild working class democracy if we want to win.

    • @bongsquadronmusic9335
      @bongsquadronmusic9335 Před 4 lety +4

      You got smoked in Dec 2019 mate. The working class abandoned the Labour Party in droves. Shove that working class democracy up your A.

    • @nedlightowlers5168
      @nedlightowlers5168 Před 4 lety +3

      @@bongsquadronmusic9335 Working class have no love for the Tories either. By & large we don't vote, and some just went Tory for Brexit.
      Won't be easy to rebuild trust, but I think before you act triumphant you should realise the working class think your side are a bunch of pricks too.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +5

      And yet the working class were amongst the groups of people who disliked Benn most, just as they dislike Corbyn now. Benn's followers were an unrepresentative slice of labour party members, most of whom were out of touch middle class hobbyists, who had no understanding of the working class. It's no coincidence that Corbyn was a disciple of Benn.

    • @bongsquadronmusic9335
      @bongsquadronmusic9335 Před 3 lety +3

      @Bessie Hillum fully agree. Middle class champagne socialists & their rainbow worldview destroyed UK

    • @shaunobrien8975
      @shaunobrien8975 Před 2 lety +1

      In the area that I grew up in people didn't like being told what to do or what to think, especially by those in a position of power and it's only natural that those in working class jobs who have had to deal with a boss dictating much of their life aren't overly pleased with authority. Now you have young people, students and graduates (many of whom end up in the managerial class themselves) dictating to those who never had such opportunities how they should think and what they should do, often making mass generalisations based on age. Of course people are going to vote against this, I'm a young graduate myself but I constantly find myself frustrated with the lack of awareness from my peers on how their actions are turning people against Labour.

  • @romanalsace-lorraine3302
    @romanalsace-lorraine3302 Před 6 lety +3

    Back To The Future - Marty!

  • @LinkJosssssh
    @LinkJosssssh Před 6 lety +3

    5:48 Omg that song sounded amazing

    • @iandander2473
      @iandander2473 Před 5 lety +1

      OMG, you're a fucking idiot.

    • @robertpeston6692
      @robertpeston6692 Před 5 lety +3

      Let's get together - Canned Heat, 60s hippie track well, late 60s

  • @MrGoneTroppo
    @MrGoneTroppo Před 2 lety +3

    Hurrah for Tony Benn - he ensured that there could never be a Tory government ever again!

  • @Yourismouter
    @Yourismouter Před 6 lety +30

    the best pm we never had,

  • @Dusty3030
    @Dusty3030 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember him. He closed grammar schools, while his kids went to private schools. Typical scummy labour, just as Abbott does.

  • @carlbirchall1632
    @carlbirchall1632 Před 10 měsíci

    Labour spend so much time and effort in fighting

  • @johnrider5701
    @johnrider5701 Před rokem +10

    The best prime minister we never had..

  • @TelexToTexel
    @TelexToTexel Před 2 lety +2

    Tony Blair the upper-class person who went slumming and did his best to divide the working class, so that Thatcher could rule in the 80s.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 2 lety +8

      Tony Blair?? Or Tony Benn?

    • @TelexToTexel
      @TelexToTexel Před 2 lety

      @@th8257 Good to see some people still awake 👍

    • @KimPhilby203
      @KimPhilby203 Před 2 lety

      And what did you do?

    • @TelexToTexel
      @TelexToTexel Před 2 lety

      @@KimPhilby203 I am an Scandinavian social democrat

  • @professorspf
    @professorspf Před 5 lety +14

    It's remarkable how anti-Benn the broadcaster is...

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +2

      Outside of some of the labour party members, most people really didn't like Benn

    • @fredfredrickson5436
      @fredfredrickson5436 Před 3 měsíci

      Par for the course.

  • @TheForkhandles
    @TheForkhandles Před 4 lety +3

    The Oswald Mosley of the 1980s Left.

  • @user-qd3xk9ge7h
    @user-qd3xk9ge7h Před 23 dny

    Real labour

  • @Flubbydubbydoodoo
    @Flubbydubbydoodoo Před 2 lety +2

    Well, the public services did grow… but it’s not a source of revenue, it’s a blight on the taxpayer and is bankrupting the country.

  • @firehammer7585
    @firehammer7585 Před 2 lety

    "... a vegetarian."

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b Před 4 lety +5

    The tactics of Militant described by Healey are now the mainstream, sadly.

    • @jbmuggins8815
      @jbmuggins8815 Před 4 lety +7

      michael crick, the leading militant scholar, and someone completely opposed to labour, stated that momentum are nothing like militant in their tactics. they're simply one of the sections within labour, such as the soft left tribune group or Progress on the right. please reply.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Před 4 lety +2

      @@jbmuggins8815 I didn't mention Momentum. What I said is that the tactics described by Healey in the video are now the political mainstream.

    • @jbmuggins8815
      @jbmuggins8815 Před 4 lety +4

      @@ian_b sigh, perhaps you could elaborate

    • @jbmuggins8815
      @jbmuggins8815 Před 3 lety

      @Bessie Hillum the faction providing the ideas to the leader of the party, hence why Labour will continue to do terribly

    • @Poshypaws
      @Poshypaws Před 2 lety +2

      "The tactics of Militant described by Healey are now the mainstream, sadly." What utter tripe!

  • @grahamrogers3345
    @grahamrogers3345 Před rokem

    Benn was right

  • @craigburgess7105
    @craigburgess7105 Před 2 lety +1

    all fluff -no idea what actually to do - still like him /no person in UK political history beyond one has ever rushed as quickly from one position to another

  • @paulrimmer2853
    @paulrimmer2853 Před 2 lety +1

    Maggie loved the Bennites, they gave her two whopping majorities.

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 Před 5 lety +1

    Jungian analysis of the Benn psyche would be revealing...

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 2 lety +1

      Denis Healey described Tony Benn as the living definition of what Karl Marx wrote when he discussed "feudal socialists" (upper class socialists) "Half lamentation, half lampoon; half an echo of the past, half menace of the future; at times, by its bitter, witty and incisive criticism, striking the bourgeoisie to the very heart’s core; but always ludicrous in its effect, through total incapacity to comprehend the march of modern history. The aristocracy, in order to rally the people to them, waved the proletarian alms-bag in front for a banner. But the people, so often as it joined them, saw on their hindquarters the old feudal coats of arms, and deserted with loud and irreverent laughter."

  • @lameduck3630
    @lameduck3630 Před 2 lety +1

    Economically illiterate.