2024 Ford Mustang Dark Horse Review - Expensive...But WORTH IT?
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2024
- 2024 Ford Mustang Dark Horse review by The Straight Pipes. The Ford Mustang Dark Horse is putting down 500 horsepower and 418 lb-ft of torque from a 5L V8. At $89,505 CAD, would you take it over the Ford Mustang Mach 1, Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, Chevy Camaro SS, Chevy Camaro ZL1, Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, Dodge Challenger SRT 392 Scat Pack?
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How long ago was this video made? The new Shelby gt500 has a manual option
@@carlosovalle6165there is no Shelby GT500 in this generation yet
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I go to work everyday, 44 hours a week minimum and lift 50 - 75 repeatedly up to 200 times a day sometimes and I am 58. Give me that car even tho I am just a worker who can't afford I deserve more then you do. Whining about your shoulder to grab the seat belt, Karen.
How is this $15k+ (sticker) more than a Camaro SS 1LE (tremec, recaros, mag ride, brembo)?? Or just shy of a ZL1.
For me, the biggest problem with the Dark Horse at this price, is the fact that the GT350 exists. Higher redline, more HP, sounds better.
The GT350 also looks good for the price and has the Shelby name to go along with it.
Yeah and the 350s all blow up
@@ak2112my neighbor and coworker both have 350's And they have been ripping on those things for the last few years. No issues. Not sure where you're getting your info from but sounds like BS
@@ak2112 not entirely true
And technically faster. A lot of the Dark Horse's performance comes from the tires and grip.
$110,000.00 at my local dealership lol
What! Holy shit lol
Dont waste your money buy it used
Its 65k msrp or somewhere there. Why?
Post the link, I’m calling BS
Langenburg, Saskatchewan... any 5.0, bigger hemi, and 6L chevys are all expensive here.
A good customer of the Ford shop I work just came in yesterday. He usually brings his F550 company truck, but today he comes into the normal shop. He mentioned beforehand that he spec'd a new Dark Horse just like this one, and he shows up with a 6000-mile "used" 2023 GT500 that he got for only three grand more. Ford did a great job with all the S650s but damn the prices
Why anyone would take this dark horse over a GT500 is absolutely beyond me... and pay extra on top of it? Some people have more money than sense lol
Ford didn't do a good job with the S650s. They are heavier, more expensive, uglier and thanks to Ford and the EPA now have a neutered Coyote engine. How is that "great? 🤣
@@ctreacts1537It's a fake story from a Ford employee. Ford had a Gen Z focus grip from Ford to help design the S650. It's probably one of these folks. 🤣
@ClickbaitMotorsports ...because I work on Fords for a living, and they made sure everything is accessible and easy to get to, not to mention the weight comes from less parts cost-cutting. S550s are a nightmare to do jobs on
@ClickbaitMotorsports Never said I defended the pricing I think it's dumb. And if I were apart of corporate marketing I wouldn't talk about finding something better used than new I'd be attempting to push for the new product, no?
Yuri...looks like a 80s TV Detective with that Mustache. " Excuse me Sir, we need to talk..."
To be more specific, I think he looks like Detective James Gordon from the Batman comics 😂
@@MikeLitirous "Someone get Batman on the... Phone !!!"
a young Walter White
is he of slav origins ? Ukrainian or Russian ?
He’s been chatting online with babes all day.
I am an insurance broker here in Ontario, recently insured one of these. Pretty affordable rates too on these dark horses since it counts as its own model away from the mustangs group of cars lol.
Interesting. Only older more mature folks can afford it so makes sense.
Get me some cheaper insurance on my Kona N man shits killing me 😂
@benhaze1010 or people that have a job not at wendys and doesnt have 50 kids
just got mine insured friday! picking it up tomorrow!
@@Grimesittybruh my EN isn’t even expensive on insurance, and I’m 22 with 2 prior accidents.
I don’t even know why I watched the entire video if I can’t afford this 😂
I'd rather have a Shelby GT350 for the same price.
Yeah but it's old, and all used models are guaranteed to be 💯 abused.
Terry from Vorshlag was able to drop seconds off of his lap times with their upper camber plates and SPL front lower control arms, which allows for more front camber. These cars are very capable and have a lot going for them on the track. Phenomenal brakes and big grip from the optional tires.
I think your Fox body sounds more like a V12 Ferrari and the dark horse sounds more like a classic V8 similar to the mopars
Love my V12 Ferrari Foxbody
I have been dailying my 2019 Bullitt for the past 4 years (and ~62k miles) and it's been lovely. This feels lot closer to it as a heavy refresh rather than new model. It's got 20 more ponies, but the sound is very similar (nearly the same and that's good, it's lovely). I've loved my time in it, it's a great cruiser and held its own on a track.
The ONLY thing I wish for is the Tremec, they put the MT82 in the Bullitt while the Mach 1 (it's spiritual successor and lot of similar parts) got the Tremec
that engine compartment looks sooooo nice and cleaaaan 😩😩
And the color uhhhhhhhh it’s soooo fucking beautiful. It would just pop at night, driving past different types of lighting would bring out such different tones.
Big Fan from Mexico. I always watch all your videos. Will you be reviewing the Lincoln Nautilus 2024?
Great review you two
That button is the Auto Start-Stop switch, maybe not on the DH, but I have it on my '24 GT 6sp
24' auto here and I don't have it 🤔
Good Review... again 😎
the dark underneath the headlight looks like how it did on the FPV F6, i love it
Great presentation guys! Jacob, how does this Dark Horse compare to a C6 Z06/427?
Do you guys remember when Ford offered mystichrome color? This seems like a distant cousin
Yes. I’ll have a mystichrome terminator one day - Jakub
Back in the day... with my Evo 8... you could actually program "flat foot shifts" into the stock ECU. We called it "No lift to shift" back then. We also programmed 2-step launch control. Couldn't do the rev matching though. I think it's great that the Dark Horse comes stock with those options. I wish my Emira had that stuff.
I had a IX GSR that I bought brand new way back in the day. I also had several STIs & now my 3rd Lexus IS500 gotta love the V8.
@moonman_8935 All my V8s are in trucks. But I do love V8s. 7.3L gas, 6.4L diesel and 6.2L gas. They're all great in their own way.
3 IS500's? Lol sure
@@moonman_8935
Got the GT premium and would like to set it up for handling first. What’s the largest tire size I can get away with cause I’m currently rocking 19” 255 all round continental tires
The blank button is to disable the auto on/off but the 2024 models did not get that ‘feature’ due to chip shortage or something like that. It’s blank in my A10 car as well.
I have a Mach 1..
I'm a BMW guy normally but that Tremec box is freakin amazing 🔥🔥
No idea why anyone would want the 10AT; such a waste.
Dark Horse too expensive- you could probably grab a '21 Mach 1 HP for like $50k
Why would they want the 10 speed automatic? Idk maybe they like to win races
@@UnNotAnon the Mach 1 is not a straight line street racing kind of car. It's a grand touring coupe with better handling capabilities. If you're willing to sacrifice a manual for that, you don't care about the driving dynamics and should just buy the cheapest platform possible, and put all the money in the engine (so basically a hellcat)
I also have a Mach 1 with handling package. I ended up getting the 6-speed, but I also test drove the 10-speed auto. That automatic is an amazing transmission. Super quick and responsive
idk man the 10AT is pretty badass as well
The 10AT overheated at VIR for Car and Driver's Lightning Lap.
My first car was a 1979 Mustang Cobra. Terrible car but it was mine. It was $7,300.00. Those were the days. Cheers men.
I always enjoy your reviews, gentlemen, and have always loved your chemistry and genuineness!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Much appreciated!
I saw one of these in person and just by the looks and the paint look it’s worth it
I have Sport 02s on my 97 Civic Coupe and that's kind of overkill, but they feel amazing! To get it to slip is almost impossible lol.
Now when it comes to this car, this is the exact version of the Mustang I want, track pack on it alllllll daaaaaay!!! And maybe adding the Carbon Rims.
This color similar to Mystichrome found on the older Mustangs. It’s not quite as bright, but it’s the closest thing they’ve had since then. Mystichrome had a little more green and stood out more.
Saw an original Mystichrome Mustang at a car show few weeks ago.....man, that color looks even better in person, and is better than this new signature color.
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 I agree, it stands out more on good days.
I feel like some of the black plastic on the front should've just been paint matched
Especially for 100k
It's a cheaply made car, just look at the screens. Thick bezels with a very slow UI.
Nah. The contrasts highlight the lines and maintain a slim profile.
Is it an option?! I haven't played with any configurations (if they're available).
Great review
The missing button on the dash is for the “auto start-stop” the first build batch don’t have the button but my second build batch GT PP has auto start stop (even with the manual)
Ouch
I been waiting on this! You guys sold me a mach 1. And I still don't regret it. The car is fantastic and I know this is even better!
Congrats. Best value
Yup Mach 1 without the glitzy arcade interior also wins my vote. There a few new ones left but Ford jacked up their price big time too.
@@benhaze1010 You know, it's kind of a double edged sword being the last muscle car standing. On one hand, you lack the conventional competition which I would assume, lower prices somewhat. Then on the other, being the last muscle car during inflation, jacking the prices way up across the board. I wonder what a new generation of Camaro or V8 Challenger would cost
@@metooblueshoes I know. Based on how pricing has evolved these past few years I would expect the Camaro or Challenger prices would align wit the Mustang if they ever come back.
The Mach 1 is way better. Cheaper, lighter, better looking and unlocked ECU.
Only problem I have is the exhaust the coyote doesn’t sound good through it imo
I agree. I prefer the sound of my 22 GT
I have the Mach 1 and I knew the interior plastics were trash when I bought it.
I was really hoping the S650 would upgrade the materials and I'm pleased to say that it is a big step up.
I'd love to get a Dark Horse, but for >$70k? Hell na..
I thought $55k for a Mustang was unreasonable to begin with lol
Jakub, I also had the same issues but with my right shoulder. Couldn't reach behind my back and was incredibly painful to lift my hand above my head. I thought I tore my rotator cuff and needed surgery but turns out it was just frozen. I went and did PT for 90 days and now it's 95% better. No more pain in any position but I can't reach up my back as high as I can with my left hand. Highly recommend if you haven't tried PT already.
I’ve done months of PT and 8 months of lifting in the gym and a cortisone shot. Not getting any better
@@TheStraightPipes Oh damn. That sucks man. Well hopefully something will help it eventually.
I also had a rotator cuff injury on my right arm about 2 1/2 months ago. The first couple of days were sheer agony! Like horrific levels of pain. I never knew this level of pain was even possible/ Doc gave me a 5 day course of steriods and on the first night it was WAY better. I'm also having PT sessions once per week and it's been helping. Still don't have full mobility but I'm hoping this will eventually heal and get back to normal.
@@TheStraightPipesget referred to an orthopedic surgeon and get a proper assessment
@@unclerenLol like that would help. Doctors don't know shit nowadays.
Great review! I own a carbonized gray 6-speed dark horse, and completely agree with seat belt issue. I absolutely love the car otherwise.
I knew I wasn’t crazy
Tip for the seat belts. Don't reach up over your left shoulder with your left or right hand. Instead, reach down to the floor with your left hand and bring the belt up over your hip.
Super cool color
Love the video and content but any chance we can get a disclaimer up front when you review a mustang? I thought this was gonna come out of the screen and crash into my car, thanks!
That paint color is amazing
Yes, get a GT350!
DarkHorse exhaust sounds more OE, but on the road if I heard your fox body, it would be 10x more hype!
I have a fox body and kinda hate the sound of these new 5.0 cars. Sound like old straight pipe trucks.
@@jhelmsing be nice to hear one with flowmasters to see if they sound any better. i could listen to an "album" of diff foxbody's etc with flowmaster exhaust
You guys have major energy...more than the car.
Jakub: tip for the seat belts. Don't reach up over your left shoulder with your left or right hand. Instead, reach down to the floor with your left hand and bring the belt up over your hip.
I reach with my left in every car. The belt is so much farther back on this car
@@TheStraightPipes What I’m suggesting is to reach down (just above where the belt attaches to the floor) instead of reaching up at shoulder height. I find that much easier in coupes where the upper belt mount is further back. I do that in my Pontiac Solstice and my daughter’s Kia Forte Koup.
There’s no space with these seats and the door panel. Gonna destroy my watch
Nice to see Ford put good effort into making a great looking engine compartment.
For this new insane price .. I would hope so..
@@MKu64 look at the new 4 runner compartment
Just busting chops but that looks a lot like my 2017 Camaro SS. I broke out the original sticker that I saved when I bought her once you guys stated the price…
tremec tr6060 with rev match
Dual mode exhaust
Performance suspension (magnaride)
6 speed manual
LSD
No lift shift from factory
Total vehicle with options: $39840
I have 60k miles on her and have had zero problems and she still pulls like a freight train. As much as I poke fun, I’d take this thing in a heartbeat. Except that price…
As a mustang guy, Camaros are super underrated. Especially with the recent stang styling updates, and how long and boaty they look in general, I've been appreciating Camaros more every time I see them.
Loving the XM reference. Someone has one in our subdivision... so get to see that one pretty often.
no joke my local bmw dealer had at least 6 of them last time i was there. The problem is the x5m/x6m/x7m60i are nicer looking, cheaper, AND faster
glad you both happy 😊
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What a beautiful horse
I prefer the 2018 5.0 performance package,track pack. Best mustang in my opinion
So you mean the Performance Package 2? The PP1 (which is the performance package of now which gives 255/275 tires, a larger radiator, brembos, etc) while the PP2 gave you 305s all around along with magnaride, etc
@@Bank_Da_Bread pp2. Thanks for clarity
Definitely way better value. So much cheaper, and not that much less performance...
@@ctreacts1537 yeah, other than the missing coolers and bits from the 350/500 along with the tremec 6 Speed, I'd rather go along for a Mustang.
The PP2, Mach 1, GT350 are all superior options to this Dork Horse.
MagneRide comes standard on all 2024 Dark Horse Models. The handling package includes the Magnetic Damping system these are two different suspensions.
You guys are great to watch & listen to. The DH does come with Magna-ride without the Handling Package. But if you desire the Mustang to be a fantastic sports car you should get the Handling Package option. Note: I ordered my Dark Horse back on 6 April 2023, I am still waiting to get my car after 13 months. The UAW Strike stopped 3-4 months of production on the Dark Horse plus since the end of November right after the UAW STRIKE ended the DH cars with the Handling package went on “restraint” so still waiting!!! The DH is an amazing car. It is now the best braking car ever tested by Car and Driver magazine!!!
Nice review and I always enjoy your videos‼️Cheers Gentlemen‼️👊💪🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️
Hopefully you get it soon. Watch out for that tramlining!
@@TheStraightPipes I talked to Steeda guys so I know what to get to prevent tram-lining even with the big front tires of 305/30/R19. 😄
Need that Lottomax to come through!!!
Hahahah same bro. I'll think of this comment if I win
lol, we are in the same boat 🤞
All versions of DH get magnaride. Just slightly different tuning for the track pack.
Sorry to say big J that the exhaust on the dark horse does sound better, but, the fox body still has some pretty good noises.
The DH is very fun to drive and push it. The Blue Ember is just crazy good looking. I love mine.
I just bought one a month ago and love it. Great video, keep up the great work!
I just saw one of these this week out in the wild. The paint is crazy film can't catch it the way it really shows
i’ve been debating this and the mk5 supra for a little bit now, just both great cars
no crowds were hurt in the making of this video.
Fox 5.0 aounds better than the coyote 5.0, no question
Smoking tire said the steering had no feel, do you concur? They couldn’t stop talking about it and you guys didn’t even mention it, so I wonder what it is? Thanks and always love your video
The Fox body vs Dark Horse sound debate is subjective.
Old School vs New School, as mentioned. They both sound great, that's what matters.
I am glad you guys still do v8 engine reviews and i am glad that there are still car companies making them. Hopefully, after this EV nonsense stops, more companies will make v8s again. We can only hope.
Go away boomer
mercedes hasnt made mass produced NA V8s in over a decade now, its ogre
Climate change ain’t no joke. Sorry you don’t like what scientists have to say about carbon and consequences.
What is an “XM”???
@@chrismonterola5850BMW V8 PHEV
Mustangs are always just SO COOL. Like, normally I only care about handling and sports cars like the Toyota GR 86, which is my favorite car in the world.
BUT I SEE THIS MUSTANG WITH THAT V8 ROAR, MANUAL TRANSMISSION, AND THAT LONG BONET AND NOTHING FEELS THE SAME.
Like this is the most masculine car ever 😂 Even big engine things like Ferraris and Lambos don't look as powerful as this 😂
This is great and I love it. 🔥
Also, I don't care about the GT500 either, for me it's all about the GT, Dark Horse and the GT350
Mustangs are the most mid performance cars out there... its a freakin Mustang... and that launch looked boring AF lmao even Yuri wasn't the least bit excited.. look at his face hahahhahahahaha anyone who pays 120K for a Mustang is absolutely nuts. Unless you are rich af then by all means.
The DH has magneride standard HP or not. Must have on the GT though
My 2021 GT Premium PP1 with Magne Ride has almost same specs as the Dark Horse, and I bought it for 30k with 45k miles, 2 owners car.
No.. it doesn’t
Straight pipes in the CZcams
I’m sorry but 65k for a Gen 3 refresh is absurd. That’s GT350 territory.
I’ve seen 24 GT’s for 62k fully loaded. I think prices are ridiculous all the way around. I remember when the 03 Cobra was 36k brand new.
@@SandorWalkup even adjusted for inflation 36k brand new is 61k now. And that’s just a GT now even the dark horse.
@@169abrTrue but the 03 GT was a two valve with 260hp and the Cobra was a supercharged 4 valve with 390hp. The 24 GT and Dark Horse are essentially the same engine with a 16 hp difference.
If you get the best of every option it's that price, but mustangs start in the 30k's
@@tomfromeyer6230Very true and the low 30k range is excellent for a 24 GT but I’m an old guy and I want every option available.
wish you could get the 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost in a mustang
I daily a S550 Mustang Yuri, and I do the same exact thing as you every time I hop in the car (10:42). It's become second nature after driving the thing for 80,000 miles!😭
Big fan of the Mustang GT (have one) but at this price I would look into the Vette.
Gt350 is still king imo. The new mustangs look too boxy.
I owned one there cool but not that great. I'd take a new gt500 over them hands down.
@@daryl9799I think that means you just bought the wrong kind of car honestly. 350 is a driver's car, the 500 is the mash the pedal and demolish tires machine. Definitely more appeal in the gt500 to older buyers.
@@zenkoz3158gt350 is unreliable and a gamble with that engine that’s why there is so many available engines n the used market.
@@joshlamar1990 if you can afford that car, the preventative maintenance and fixes aren't that significant. It's not the entire engine either, just the oiling system. If you want what the gt350 is then you don't have many other directly comparable options. My point about the other person buying the wrong car for their preferences still stands regardless of reliability concerns anyhow. Also I doubt that the gt500 is significantly more reliable, it's more likely they're just not being driven nearly as hard because they're more of a handful and not as rewarding to drive on a road course.
@@zenkoz3158 your wrong I have buddies that own a racetrack company. Drive exotic in cresson Texas they have a gt500 in there fleet. It’s is very reliable no issues after being beat up on the track I haven’t heard anything bad about the gt500.
what does jacob mean about the 350 swap? like now there’s an aftermarket manual swap for the 500 from a donor 350?
Correct
Just saw a Dark Horse yesterday in this exact color. Perfect day for a TSP drop.
Maybe it was me driving it
@@TheStraightPipes Only if you crossed the border and visited Cincinnati.
I finally test drove a 24 GT manual. It had the recaro seats…there’s no way someone who weighs over 160 lbs is comfortable in them lol. The one that I drove was a performance pack with the active exhaust…I previously owned a widebody scatpack shaker manual…the Mustang lacked the low end torque that u get in the challenger. The MT82 transmission wasn’t horrible. And the exhaust sounded ok…they had two manual dark horses also. But they were buried to far in…so I didn’t bother trying to test drive one. But overall. I’d get another challenger before I’d get a mustang. It’s a nice car and all. But def not worth the price IMO…
I spy the new raptor 18:52
Spy alert spy alert
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Would you guys take this over the CT4V Blackwing?
6:06 😂😂 unlocked a core memory
Yuri looking like Magnum PI
It’s a manual
The dead pixels in the interior shots had me thinking my monitor was dying lmao
I would definitely get this if I had the money lol. Looks great to me.
Nothing beats a good ol’ N/A V8
NA V12 : hold my joint
Thumbs up if you think Kendrick won the battle.
Drake just dropped today tho. Battle ain’t over
@@TheStraightPipes Drake got to enjoy that for about 5 mins then Kendrick went full demon mode.
Drake did it bro🎉🎉😮m a kendrick fan but drake did the most 🔥 💯 🤧
Kendrick won, but Drake won in the beats department
@@TheStraightPipesnah kenny answered and cleaned up
11:00 Adjust the seat belt height at the B-pillar. It will move down and sit in the holder built on the seat. Or maybe it doesn't. 🤔
Doesn’t
Dropped the ball on having the front facing mustang emblem in the front. It would make it look unique in the mustang lineup.
Price is gross…. It’s supposed to be the working man’s sports car. Ford is flipping the middle finger to the middle class. But honestly I’d rather buy a used Camaro anyway.
It’s not meant to be affordable. Its highest trim of the S650. You can get a GT for under 45k still.
@@adamb3129 should still be reasonable. The price is dumb.
Price is outta control for sure. To be fair to FORD though, avg price of a new car in America in 2018 (Pre Covid) was $38k per Kelly Blue Book. Avg price of a new car in 2023 was $49k per KBB. That’s the AVERAGE price. Which means, most people in America won’t even qualify for a loan for a new car in 2023 using this data. However, there is good news from FORD. MSRP of a Mustang GT, a 2024 with 480 HP and that beautiful rumble is less than $42k. You can even get a GT premium with leather and better wheels for $46,480. LESS than the avg price of a new car. And this car is far from avg. Additionally, Old school Boss NINES or Shelby’s from the 60’s have always cost more than just the GT. I understand your sentiments but FORDstill
Priced the iconic Mustang, with the V8, for less than the avg price of a new car. Camaros are great cars too but the fact they are dead, now for a second time tells me they weren’t priced right as they didn’t sell. Meanwhile the Mustang is still here. Be happy FORD is still making these monsters. I don’t blame FORD, I blame Biden…
@@sunburn8640 it’s not Biden, it was Covid and everyone around the world is in the exact same boat. It’s not just an American problem sadly.
2044 Dark Horse???? lol still a great review
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I was gonna get one, but I just hate the digital interior. And still not sold on the looks. So I got one of the last 2023 Mach1 Handling package stands on the market
I like the dark horse mustang such an awesome and badass car
The new GT350
Definitely not
@@skylerssupercarlife348aww cry yes it is
I hate....HATE...the digital gauge cluster! The way it's just a tacked on screen.
MagneRide is standard on all dark horses! Don't need the handling pack!! 13:48
Wwwwhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa
Smooth drive, reliable design.
waaay overpriced
What's your suggested price for it?
I use to think that too but for $65k give or take, theres nothing that lets you row through gears w v8 and rwd. its in a market of 1, if that makes sense. Same price as an rs3 or m2, and ive had both and theyre boring to drive
Tell us you're broke, without telling us. Wasn't the assignment 😅
That's what they do to muscle cars😂😂
@@ryan4carvidssure there is. There’s used mustangs. For under $40k you can get 420hp+ in any 2011 model year plus
For a V8, that sounds so bad.
The new gen seems to sound choked to me. I don’t know what they did but it sounds like the cats are more restrictive or something.
I like the look.
I can't with that digital interior!
If money wasnt an issue id definitely take this over a gt350. This is literally the best looking s650 and better looking than any s550.