Phonak Paradise vs. Oticon More Hearing Aid Comparison
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Phonak Paradise vs. Oticon More Hearing Aid Comparison...Which one is BEST? Doctor Cliff Olson, Audiologist and founder of Applied Hearing Solutions in Phoenix Arizona, compares the pros and cons of the Phonak Paradise and Oticon More lines of hearing aids.
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Which Hearing Aid to you think is Better, Phonak Paradise or Oticon More?
I think both has something different .
Both are nice
I own both. I hear better out of the Oticon Mores. Everything is clearer no muffling sounds. On the Phonaks I struggled with all the extra settings and I could not get the adjusted of right and left ears to ever stay when ever I set them at different leaves. Also I did not like the Phonak Paradise automatically changing when it Perceived loud noises or backgrounds I didn’t like that because it muffled everything on me. I will say I have a really bad hearing loss. One ear was damaged in a hyperbaric chamber the other is old age sensory hearing loss and I have had Stapedectomy’s in both ears. I hands down love my Oticon Mores. I don’t care which company has more features I just like the fact I can actually hear a lot better with my Oticon’s.
As an Audiologist I agree. Clients get better hearing with the More especially in groups. The Phonaks focus in front too much but then if there is a loud talker at a table behind you the front and back talkers seem to blend together.
Paradise are still superb products. Connectivity and Tap Control are excellent. Rechargeable battery reliability has been a huge issue for us with the Paradise. The More batteries seem to have less faults in terms of errors and reduced life issues.
If you stream lots of calls and media the Phonaks may not last the day. The Oticon LE system will allow that.
I now fit a lot more Mores than Paradise to match open fit high freq losses better.
But let me be clear, as perfectly described in your video each has specific features that certain clients may want and will love. Both are the best of the best on the market at the moment.
Get a great Audiologist. Assess your needs and match them with either of the platforms.
I tried both, with phonak you hear sounds well but with Oticon you understand each single word, nothing too loud or too sharp or sudden, transition in noise is so seamless and natural plus many many other features in directionality, connectivity, streaming and battery life and much more in the More
@@Mimihockey937m I too hated the constant program changes the Phonaks made in the nearly 4 weeks I had them. In the less than a week I’ve had the Oticons, I also have had significantly better streaming quality.
I I was able to afford the Phonak about 1 year ago. And couldn't believe the sound, it made me cry. To hear birds and leaves blowing. I am totally deaf in my R ear, so I am grateful for my L!!!! Have a great day
thank you for finally getting back to the videos you have posted in the past about technology that the hearing aid consumer can understand and utilize. Relatively unbiased and hopefully non sponsored content is much more honest.
Dr. Cliff, I love your videos....really helpful. I tried both these hearing aides for 30 days, others as well. Although the technology on the Phonak was potentially fantastic, I found that it failed often. Sometimes taping the aids just didn't answer the phone or while speaking to someone, if I had an itch nearby the aid, my touch would hang up the call. I would often have to manually go in and sort out the bluetooth connection or the device I wanted to use. Sometimes music would stream and I didn't know from where. Most importantly was 'best practices'. I just knew that the Phonak could do better, but she didn't want to use real ear measurement. The Oticon professional used 'real ear measurement' automatically and ultimately, I bought it because I could hear better. I wish I could 'tap and connect/disconnect', but my hearing loss is serious and bottom line is that I need to hear as well as possible, technology aside.
I had Unitron, with the intermediary BT device for years. I found your videos when researching prior to upgrading. I watched many many reviews. Thanks!!
I have had my Phonak Paradise 90's for about a month. BT connectivity was the deciding factory. Working in IT, I am in Zoom conference calls with world wide audiences constantly. Multiple device connectivity and use of the hearing aid mic with for BT is of utmost importance.
There are huge improvements with my Phonak hearing aid. I believe it is because of technology advancements. I have much less problems in meeting rooms, and I believe that is because of the technology the P90's use to combat the rooms inherent reverberation frequency.
Thanks for taking the time to do these in-depth reviews.
Thanks Dr Cliff great video. Helped me to decide to stick with my Phonaks, bluetooth and waterproofing on the new life model the main reasons.
I really appreciate the ability to make immediate changes on a few of the settings with my iPhone with the Oticons…not having to wait for the apps to connect to both the Phonaks and the Oticons.
Nice comparison. If you do more of these, please put a chart of all the features compared at the end of the video.
I just received a Oticon More after being over a year after not being able to use my old set and what a joy to hear again!
I never would have thought the find my hearing aids would be that useful, but I was wrong. One of my Oticon More's came out of my ears while doing some home improvement outside. The app told me where the last place it was, and even though it was under a pile of leaves, with persistence, I was able to finally locate them. That saved me the cost of utilizing the insurance that came with the aids. Thanks for your reviews - very helpful!
Had a similar situation years ago. I lost an aid while working in a basement with a dirt floor (very dry, powdery dirt). I rented a magnetic broom (sweeper?) and found the aid in the dirt within minutes. Thankfully the aid's battery is made from steel.
Nice video as always! Personally, I'm really happy with my Naida P90 UP so far!
The ability to connect to basically anything that has Bluetooth is absolutely a killer and liberating feature. I can connect it to my iPhone, my laptop, my PS5 (with a small USB Bluetooth adapter) and it just works! No more need to switch the output of the audio cable of my remote microphone all the time. I simply can't imagine going back to a "smartphone-only" Bluetooth hearing aid after that, so restrictive! I really hope Phonak doesn't go back on their decision to go Bluetooth Classic for their future platforms.
Too bad it means I can no longer benefit from MFI features (Live listen, easy switching between programs...) but the good far outweighs the bad.
I'm also feeling they help me understand speech a little bit better than my previous Resound Enzo 3D, even without a remote mic.
For people with severe-to-profound hearing loss like me, I believe Phonak is one of the best choices out there, if not the best. They offer a solution for every situation.
It's just a shame their Roger devices are a bit overpriced for what they are, but they're still worth it, and their hearing aids are still good if you can't afford those Roger devices.
Excellent video. I have stayed with Phonak products because of their Bluetooth connectivity and accessories (Roger Select, remotes, TV Connector). I recently ordered the new Life model for the improved auto-sense, ActiveVent and resistance to moisture features. I almost never use my cell phone ap to make adjustments and would like to have an ap on my iWatch. I would also like to be able to use my cellphone’s microphone when making calls.
I guess you can say or I can say " You make a lot of AUTO-SENSE to me 😂.🙌🦻
Im on day 2 with my Phonak Paradises ! demod the Oticon More 1 at my Audiologist and thought they were great too. Was really going for Phonak in order to get the Life version but my Insurance company doesnt have them available yet. I have to use Amplifon as they are in network for my insurance. So with using all of your reviews I decided to stay with Phonak because of the Double tap feature for telephone and streaming .and of course the bluetooth connectivity ! so far so good !
Great info and videos ! thank you !
2 months ago I decided to try the Oticon More1s just to be sure. they are great too, very hard decision to make ! Coming to the end of the More1 trial I found out that my insurance co will now allow me to trial the Phonak Audeo Lifes ! Just waiting for them to come in now. Now after using the Phonaks and the Oticons I really like them both, no deal breakers with either
@@johnromano688 I'm actually using a phonak Audeo Marvel 90 trial, but I have faced some issues following conversations in certain enviroments, I want to test the oticon more 1 before making a purchase, but I want to know if the oticon earing aids have a natural, sound like the earing aids from phonak or if they have a "digitalized" sound like the earing aids from signia or unitron
I found phonak always clearer and better for discrimination of sounds. Can you please explain to me why? Thank you for your good videos
I’m a HUGE fan of Paradise 90s!
Nice comparison
I play and listen to music daily. I play guitar on our worship team at church weekly. What is your recommendation for hearing aids for someone like me? I really would like to get an ITE style one as far as I know now. I am going to one of your recommended audiologists on Tuesday. Thanks for all your help.
Thanks doc.
Dr. Cliff, could you make a comparison of Signia AX7 with some other brand please? I have a pair of these and I must say that my Samsung 72 smartphone is able to stream sound directly using the ASHA protocol and the sound is great. The clarity of speech is marvelous, signia assistant is also very helpful.
Dr. Cliff, excellent video as usual. I am an SSHL person and need a CROS. I will meet Audiologist next week and plan to purchase either the Phonak P90 or Opticon More 1 after trial. My main expectation of the hearing aid is to enjoy the quality of actual music (Not from streaming), I am a big fan of enjoying music from the sound systems and live concerts. Which hearing aid (CROS) do you think will better suit my need?
Will you make a video specific to SSHL who enjoy live music? Thank you!
Which did you decide on? I’m comparing both of these in CROS now. Thanks!
So much information packed into about 15 minutes (following the intro). I'll have to write down the side-by-side facts and features.
Also, have you ever done a live stream Q&A? I have a dilemma deciding which BTE to accompany the other side BAHA. Can I get the BAHA max to communicate with an upgraded BTE model?
If any viewer has experience or insight, please comment. Thanks
The amount of information in this video is overwhelming.
If this information was overwhelming, make sure you see a hearing care professional for help. Their job is to sift through this information for you.
Thanks, I just watched this again because the VA is tired of sending my Starkey hearing aids in for repair and is going to let me replace them with either Oticon or Phonak hearing aids. Time to decide...
Thanks!
Good job
It has been 7 months since the VA audiologist ordered the Oticon More 1 rechargeable. I did not realize what I have been missing. The audiologist paired it with my iPhone and they work well. The audiologist told me to stop by anytime that I am in the VA hospital, and he cleans them, puts on new ear cups and checks the settings to make sure that they conform to my programmed settings. This past Friday, he was able to check my settings via the VA health app, while was out shopping. I was diagnosed with moderate hearing loss, and the Oticon More 1, is great. The audiologist ordered them with an extension that loops around my outer ear canal, to prevent the Oticon from being ripped out of my ears when I take off my mask. It has saved the Oticon numerous times from falling to the floor and perhaps damaging them. Based on my own experience, I highly recommend the Oticon More 1, and praise my VA audiologist for great service. I have spoken to other veterans at our VA hospital and they are very satisfied with the care given to us by our audiologist. He has been at the VA hospital for 33 years, and he told me that he takes great pride in helping his fellow veterans.
Which VA? I might move....
@@02mgnm VA NY Harbor
Hi Cliff,
I bought Phonak Paradise couple weeks ago after watching your several videos on same. Can you please explain what is GAIN LEVEL in Global tuning? What is ideal Gain value to be set for Moderately severe hearing loss. I couldn’t get much details on same from my audiologist or google. Pls help.
Would really like to see comparisons between the Costco Rexton, Jabra and Philips. All three come from well known HA corporations. Leaving out the Costco 10 since you already did a great job. So taking some nuggets and applying to the Costco 10 and Philips from this video.
Hi dr cliff , which one is better for bad high pitch tinnitus? Thx
What about the prices. And maybe elaborate more about sound quality (understanding speech).
Is there video that we can actually see the hearing aid itself in person. I'm very particular when to comes to look, and design. I've been doing my research getting new hearing aid. I have RIC... lately, I've getting ear drainage and its causing to damage receiver often. I'm consider going back to old school BTE hearing aid but smaller similar to RIC without receiver wire.
Thanks for mentioning that I need to charge my hearing aid for 3 hours. I was wondering as the right one didn't charge overnight ... oops ... so I'm charging it now.
Could you review the specs of 'new' Phonak Slim vs Phonak Paradise that the Slim is supposedly modeled after, ie is the Phonak slim battery life, other features 'toned down' due to the smaller size?
I have a Phonak Marvel and also tried a Paradise for two weeks, both rechargeable. My only concern is battery life. Neither lasts a full (14 hour) day. Typically they died in 12 hours. I had to turn off phone and phone (Android) streaming, TV is still connected. They now last 14 hours.
Wax build up on my hearing is my biggest problem… do you a video on wax Maintenence?
Does being "easier to program" impact the user? If so, how? I still am not clear which hearing aid actually would be more beneficial to someone with severe hearing loss.
Do you have Widex video comparison to Phonak or other comparable hearing devices?
I wish this video had compared the sound quality of these two devices. This is by far the most important aspect to me in correcting my high frequency losses. I've heard both, however in different environments and at different times. The Opticon sounded significantly more electronic (i.e. unnatural) than the Phonak.
It's suggested online that the best devices for music are Resound (Linx Quattro), Signia and Widex (Moment).
The new phonak audio lumity is also excellent sound quality and great quality for music as well.. I have tried resound but have had better luck with the phonak devices.. But l'm sure all manufacturers all have very similar technology features.. it all depends on the generation of the device, and how it's fitted. Depending on your degree of hearing loss, and your needs
I get Phonaks from my worker's comp system. 3 years in to Audeo M70s, and they're fine. The price was right LOL, but I wasn't able to comparison shop.
Interesting comparisons. I'm due for an upgrade and would like to know which of these two (or even another not mentioned) would be better for music - classical especially. Wide frequency response seems a key element. My hearing issue is "typical" age-related high frequency loss. Thanks.
Maybe take Airpods Pro 2 for music. You can apply your hearing curve on them.
My left ear has worsening low frequency hearing condition while my right ear has normal age-related higher frequency issues. I have used Widex Moment 330 for the last two years and now I am test wearing Oticon Real 2 as I decided I need to be able to hear more clearly and easily in a noisy workplace environment. Oticon Real proves much better for the job than Widex, far naturally sounding in every cases. However not so when it comes to listening to music. I love to listen to mostly (but not exclusively) classical music at home from my "audiophile-grade" audio system. The music I hear through Widex is deep, transparent and extends to higher freqeuncies, whereas via Oticon Real music sounds flat with fine details noisy, muddy and a bit distorted. I suspect this is due to Oticon Real processing sound to be more "listenable" but at the same time adding some artifacts. So I am sure I keep Oticon Real but I will continue to use Widex at home for music. Hope this helps.
what do You recomend?
Which is better for piano and singing?
Excellent video as always. There is always something new for hearing aid wearers to learn about the various manufacturers technologies but today my take away was that there are 2 types of Bluetooth connection possible - Bluetooth classic and Bluetooth low energy ASHA.
I have an android phone, its a Samsung galaxy s9+ and although its on my Resound Linx Quattro connectivity list it no longer streams audio reliably via the ASHA Bluetooth le connection. Resound have an announcement on their website telling potential buyers that their ASHA devices no longer connect reliably with Android 12 devices but my device is an Android version 10 and I've read about Android 11 users experiencing the ASHA bluetooth connectivity problem.
Could you do a video specifically on the bluetooth ASHA problem and ways to overcome it? In addition a list of manufacturers that use the bluetooth classic protocol would be amazingly valuable resource for hearing aid users I believe.
So unfortunately there's really no way to improve the terrible thing that is the asha protocol which was fun fact cooked up by google with the intention to make it easier to stream and make handsfree phone calls but it ultimately didn't workout that way you still have to hold your phone in your hand for the other person to hear you
Dr. Cliff, thank you for the great channel and info! Can you expand on the CROS systems? I have SSHL and am considering Paradise or More to replace my rechargeable Phonak soon. I was disappointed that Phonak deactivated their app for CROS (lost ability to see battery power, increase sound focus to one side which was especially nice when driving, etc). Do you know how Oticon More CROS compares?
The new CROS from Oticon is really good. It is very comparable to the performance of a Phonak CROS.
Phonak said they’d be coming out with an app that will work w the Paradise and the BiCros. My audi isn’t very hopeful and doesn’t have any additional info from Phonak. I’m very disappointed there’s no app bc it’s very challenging using the toggle and missing out on so many features.
@@DrCliffAuD Except that the Phonak doesn't support simultaneous CROS and audio streaming (I learned this when I tried the P-90), whereas Oticon does (or so I have been told).
May I wander to ask a question please ,, which is better Oticon Opn 1 or phonal paradise audeo because this is the available models in my country,, your quick reply will be appreciated
Dr. Cliff, thank you for a very informative video. Can I please check as I am unclear about the difference between top level Phonak and Oticon in terms of automatically adjusting to the environment. I understand that Phonak will automatically adjust when entering a different listening environment. Does a top level Oticon HA also adjust automatically or do you have to manually choose a different listening program? I appreicate your feedback, thank you
Oticon is manual.
I hope you don't get a noisy " FEEDBACK " on your hearing Aides .
Will you do a video on advanced bionics marvel processor?
Got my Paradise P90 (battery version) yesterday, with Roger On iN, TV adapter (both devices work well). Already paired it with Android phone, ipad Air and ipad Mini and can easily switch between them. So far liking them.
If you programm a hearing aid.
do you yuse REM only for G65
or for all inputlevels?
and do you think its an advantige, that Oticon has up to 8 different CR with only 3 that are programebel?
I have an Oticon S2 hearing aid. It works great. The only problem I have is that although everything sounds goood but whe I hear a continuoous note from a musical instrument it has a slight tremlo effect. Is this a common problem? What should I do?
For a SSD person like me, who has normal hearing in my other ear, and I only really have trouble hearing speech in normal environments, which aid would you recommend, Phonak or Oticon?
Also, do people complain of Oticon being uncomfortable? I trialed Phonak. Sound wasn't as good, but was comfortable. But maybe I needed a better audiologist.
Now I am trying Oticon. Hearing great in noisy, but hurts!!! These hearing aid "clips" are torture!
I have a reverse hearing slope and have tried the More (two times), Phonak Paradise, the Signia AX and the Widex Moment. I Also had Custom ear tips for all of them for best performance and comparisons. I have found the Paradise to work the best for clarity of speech and in group settings. I will never hear perfectly since my right ear has significant loss. I may go with a cross system next time since I wanted to try to maintain some directionality now. What also helps the Paradise is their APP which allows direct custom controls that you can understand the changes and have control of what you are changing.
The More were the worse. Could not hear speech well and in social groups I could not hear much. Their APP did not allow for many impact changes, not enough control. The sound was not natural they had a different sound to them.
The Widex and Signia were very similar but their APPS did not have the precise controls and they both had Bluetooth issues.
Please note that all of them had some kind of Bluetooth issued but the Phonak Paradise had the least issues.
I want to try to get the Phonak Life (waterproof)but Amplifon, my insurance company, does not cover them yet.
Hello Anthony. I have the same problem. The Reverse Hearing Loss Slope is so frustrating. I have been trying different hearing aids since ten years ago. If someone knows how to deal it, it will be of great help.
@@jmandiolao
Try the Phonak Paradise or Life. Reverse slope is very hard to deal with but the controls on the Phonak APP help to dial in the best settings for different environments. Other hearing aids do not have the precise controls. This in turn can help the Audiologist program your hearing aids better. Real ears measurements may not be the correct settings for reverse hearing slope. I cannot tolerate the low frequencies that I need so there has to be a compromise. The Phonak APP with all of their controls help this.
People close to me have told me the Oticon and the Widex were the worse hearing aids I have tried, I have tried Oticon twice with two different Audiologist, same outcome.
Thanks
@@anthonycermenaro1173 thanks you a lot!
Yo. I’m just trying out the oticon more and the phonak paradise hearing aids for reverse slope hearing life myself. What a coinsidense. Well maybe not on this spesiffic comment section. Anyway I got the Phonaks to try out first, and was so happy with them. The only thing is that a musician I want to see what are the best hearing aids for music and performance. So anyway my audiologist reccomended I tryed the Mores to see if they were more effective. I find the speech a bit weird so far, but then I only got them yesterday so it’s going to give them a shot. Still it’s interesting seeing what you wrote since I do miss the Paradises allready.
@@MissCaraMint
Thank you for reaching out. It good to hear from some with reverse hearing slope.
I even gave the Mores a second chance and did not find that they worked well for speech understanding.
They claim that the Mores are more natural sounding but I found them to be thin sounding lacking clarity. The Phonak seem to be more like regular sound. Note your Audiologist can adjust the sound. I also liked the flexibility of creating custom programs on the go.
Great that you are checking both out.
Thank you fir the comparison as I am deciding between these 2 now as have had problems with starsky as the Bluetooth was intermittent .
Can I please just mention that you do speak very fast and for someone with severe hearing loss it is difficult to keep up . It’s not just the hearing it’s the understanding . I hope that’s ok to mention as I love your videos even if I do have to keep rewinding them .
That -- rapid speech -- is why I always turn on live captions -- CC -- when available plus the Settings (gearwheel) button often includes speed of playback and dropping that to 75% can help!
How do these hearing aids deal with hypersensitivity?
Good info Doc.
A note on the Phonak contact charging. I have som 5 year old, not BT, Phonak B-R from the VA. The aids DO lock into the charger, but a simple pull-back on the aid releases the lock and they are easy to lift out.
Did this change with the new Paradise line-up of contact charging aids?
I tried the Paradise and they didn't help me too much. I have the Oticon More 1 and I do better with it.
can you do a compaision on phonak paradise vs oticon xseed?
Great comparison. Thank you. I have been using Oticon Opn for almost 5 years. My hope was that the 360° technology would allow me to hear better on noisy situations, but it doesn't. Walking on the street and talk is hard, hearing the TV is impossible, going to the bank is hard, although the noise reduction is good. I don't know how much this technology has improved with the Oticon More, but I'm sure my next hearing aids will have the focus only in the people in front of me, I don't want more noise in my head.
Have your provider create you a full-directional (focusing on the front) program that you can switch to in difficult situations. They can also try different levels of noise reduction and a few other things to help.
@@americanhearingcenter Yes. I have 4 programs trying to solve this problem along these years, and none of them has been successful. Today I started testing the Phonak audeo paradise in the standard version and is a huge change. I have been able to hear with no trouble a person talking to me inside a store. I will be doing more tests during this testing week. the only strange thing is that I can hear the wind hitting the hearing aid. Maybe that is not a problem with the premium or advanced version. Anyways, my first thought was: with the Oticon Opn I hear the voice as coming from some place (maybe this is more natural sound, I don't know), and with the Audeo paradise I hear the voice as if people is talking to me directly in the ear. It was quite impressive.
You should try the MORE 1, I sell nothing but. The background noise suppression sounds natural, according to one of my clients. Try listening to birdsong on You Tube with the MORE 1against any other aid. I sell nothing but.
Yay Phonak‼️ 😁
Boo ! Boo ! Just kidding 😂😂😂
I am trying the Oticon hearing aids for the first time. I hear very well with them but am having issues putting the dome in my left ear. I will have the custom molds made for easier insertion into my ear. It took at least 30 minutes of me trying to get the dome in the left ear. Very frustrating. Any suggestions. This is my first time watching you and I have only one suggestion. Please slow your speech down and you talk very fast. I did enjoy your video tho.
//How do you react to Audicus devices?
Using Phonak Marvel Audeo 50's for 3 years. The feature I find frustrating to the point of uselessness is the BT connection to my phone. Trying to listen to speech or music from Sirius satellite radio, the sound is mostly high-frequency, little mid-range and no bass. I wish the aids could know that I need the bass when it's coming from the radio. Bass from regular (live) speech doesn't need any gain from my aids.
Hi Doc,
It's a very well put comparison and very helpful as well.
Can you please compare between phonak and resound?
It will be very helpful.
Thanks.
Hey Dr. Cliff - Random question, but can you tell me the brand of shirt you’re wearing in this video? I’m a fan!
I wear shirts from TailorStore.com and ButterCloth.com
@@DrCliffAuD Does it smelled like Butter 🧈 Popcorn 🍿 while wearing your shirt 👕 since the name Butter shirt ? 🤔
@@DrCliffAuD So you have a " Better Butter 🧈 Cloth Shirt 👕!"
Thank you soooo much for this video. I am actually trying to decide on these very two hearing aids. I have worn Oticon Opn 1 hearing aids for 5 years. I absolutely love them but it was time for an upgrade. I wanted the Oticon More 1 hearing aids but the hearing provider that my insurance company referred me to doesn't carry Oticons. I am currently trying out the rechargeable Phonak Audeo Paradise hearing aids. They are very nice hearing aids with LOTS of features. However, the issue I'm having (and it's a big one, too) is that every time I connect the BT to my laptop or my iPhone (to watch shows, listen to music and do phone calls), I keep hearing a loud air/wind hissing sound in the background. It's so loud that it, in fact, interferes with my interactions. Does anyone else have this issue? It is driving me crazy. If I can't get this resolved, it will be a dealbreaker with the Phonaks.
That's a programming issue. Have your provider reduce the microphone sensitivity while streaming.
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you!! There were other things I didn't like about Phonak Audeo Paradise so I decided to return them and try out the Oticon More. I currently wear the Oticon Opn 1 so I'm hoping it will be similar to them.
I've been using hearing aids for the past 60 years, and a pair of Siemens Lotus 12SP models for the past 5 years. The Lotus 12SP, while far less expensive, outperformed the Phonaks I had been using prior to them. Now I'm looking to purchase two new BTE aids and do NOT want to programmable digital kind. I've tried them and I don't like a program deciding what I hear and what to clip. Leave that to me. My hearing is in the severe to profound loss range. Can you suggest anything that doesn't cost thousands that is comparable to the Lotus 12SP?
How do I get rechargable batteries not aid
Hi, Dr Cliff! I got my new hearings aid and so far I'm loving them but I do have one question which I don't want to ask my audiologist.. i have p90 up and my hearings aids are connected to my iPhone but one thing I'm really confused is what is R-Phonak hearing aid? I completely forgot what is it for and right now I have three devices connected on my phone, they are LE_L_Phonak and LE_R-phonak.. can you tell me what is R-phonak for and when should i not use it? Looking forward to see your reply.
My experience is that the R-phonak you see in your list of Bluetooth devices is where the actual connection is made. The other two seem to be for the app? Mine always connects through the single R device and I hear everything in stereo.
I just got the P90Rs and work as a network engineer. The app connects via bluetooth to the hearing aids individually (left and right), but the main bluetooth functionality is only to the right hearing aid. Then the right hearing aid controls the left for stereo sound/answering calls.
I have been subscribed to your programs for months but never get a notification of new presentations. Why?
If you have already subscribed, make sure to also click on the bell symbol. That provides the notification.
Hey I have a question how can I protect my phonak marvels from sweat because I run a lot and the moisture drips into the battery area and causes mechanical problems. I never had problems with the naida BTE model. I like all the new stuff on the marvels but sweat and moisture is a big problem
Buy a pair of eargear. It serves as a rain coat for hearing aid.
What type of hearing aide would you recommend for one with moderate low and high frequency loss and normal mid frequencies?
I have SSD and I have spent a couple of weeks now with the Paradise - and I am about to try the Oticon’s. Two questions - can you comment or compare the two aids used in a CROS situation and what about the fact that the Paradise Rechargeable aids P90’s are not compatible with the iPhone app. Thanks, jc
We are literally doing a Live Episode on the Dr. Cliff Show today at 4pm Arizona time discussing SSD for 1 hour. You should ask on the show. We do Live Q&A at the end of the episode.
I got the Costco hearing aids and they are a discouragement. I have a very small speaker that goes into my ears. The sound has too much reverb and walking on a wood floor sounds terrible. The sounds I hear also seem garbled by other background or reflected sound waves. A friend who also got Costco hearing aids got a fitted ear piece even though the amplifier is external. What is your opinion on this. They are suppossed to be made by Phonak and are supposed to be top of the line.
Sounds like they weren't programmed properly. Doesn't matter how good they are if they are not fit right.
@@DrCliffAuDexactly well said
My Mum can't hear someone talking low tone, but loudly when speaking she can hear you. Which of the two more preferable?
Both. Find the best provider.
Dr. Cliff, could you do a comparison on the Lumity vs. the Real? (For selfish reasons, I am at a decision point but I bet there are others looking at these new options). :)
That video is currently being edited.
What hearing aids are you using Dr. Cliff ?
In your experience, which of these HAs does a better job for people who have RSHL?
Both are effective for RSHL, but it is helpful to have an equalizer like in the Phonaks.
my paradise still don't do the monile app (unilateral with cros.) also my paradise are still not quite right. so I hardly ever use them. I'm still using audeo b90's. they sound right. I sound like me.
How about water/sweat resistance for these two units? I spent a week in Dubai at some 120 F (49 C) and my hearing aids were almost useless due to sweating. Could also be a problem during training activities.
YES~~ i am concerned with this as well. overall, it seems like everyone in the comment section hears better speech with oticon rather than phonak. that being said, i remember the last time i wore bte aids 12 years ago and they would constantly shut DOWN due to the lightest perspiration. if oticon is sweat resistant i might go that route.
@@JosephKimJoeyBigTime I have found no information on Oticon hearing Aides being sweat resistant and waterproof .
Phonaks Audio Life model is waterproof and sweat proof
@@romansoldier9 thanks for this information.
@@richa.s9912 Oticon claims their hearing aids are IP68 certified. So rain and sweat shouldn't be a problem. It seemed to work in my case for a year or two. But after a repair at their service center, the water tightness was lost.
Cost? Reliability? Repairability (other than the battery replacement you mentioned)?
He'll say it depends on the clinic you go to which is true also the country where you live as well he can't really give an exact price because it's different for both I should mention I'm talking about the pricing
Doctor cliff. , I currently have the phonak paradise hearing aids , they seem to make my tinnitus worse .. do you recommend the Otican buds over the phonak for this problem? Is there a program i dont know about ? My audiologist hasnt been very helpful not sure if she knows how to address the tinnitus issue
What about oticon real hearing aid is it better then the oticon more
I have a severe hearing loss in both ears and have been wearing Oticon for 18 years. Last year I got Oticon More 1 and am happy with them. I couldn’t function without them. They are paired with my IPhone and work well streaming music and phone calls. The only downside is that they drain the battery pretty quickly. I have the replaceable 312 batteries and have to change them about every 3 days. I started with the rechargeable version and sometimes had to do an interim charge during the day for an hour to get me through the day.
Switch to a size 13 hearing Aides battery it bigger than size 312 battery 🔋 of Behind the Ears hearing Aides and you may have to buy a new hearing Aides to fit size 13 battery and it lasted 16 days of 12 hours then rest at night pulling out the battery to conserve battery power while you are sleeping for 6 to 8 hours until you get up start your day over again . I'm guessing rechargeable battery hearing Aides supposed to be lasting longer than 16 hours of listening 🎧 and recharging it up to 3 to 8 hours at night and using it as a backup hearing Aides while using the regular size 13 battery powered hearing Aides .
@@richa.s9912 Thank you for your suggestions. I will look into a 13 battery but don’t know if they will fit my hearing aids. I hadn’t planned on buying new hearing aids only one year after getting the Oticon more 1. They’re not cheap. The rechargeable battery version worked ok for me but my concerns were that I live in a hurricane zone when we can be without power for weeks. I would have to come up with a backup power solution to keep the aids charged. Also when I travel, I would have to carry the charger with me. And if the charger ever broke, I’d have no way to charge batteries. So U went with replacement battery version.
I'm also hoping that my Medical mediCare Insurance company can help me pay for my hearing Aides and me and my family can pay the other half of the hearing Aides and hearing testing next week or so . It cost I think 🤔 $ 4 thousands dollars for one hearing Aides . But I need 2 hearing Aides . I have to wait until Supply Shipping getting around from Switzerland and Germany to send the new hearing Aides to America by ships . Joe Biden never should have shutdown gas and oils plants in America since he became a AntiAmerica AntiGOD Marxist Anti-capitalist Dictator Demoncrats Party's President in January 2021 .Joe Biden did say no more gas and oils stations in America since September 2020 and he signed our Gas and oils production away from us REAL American black and white people in America since January 2021 and I really really missed paying $1.30 gallon of gas in 2020 and less cost renting a apartment and food and anything else in the Store was cheaper than Demoncrats Party's AntiGOD Marxist Anti-capitalist AntiAmerica policy's of fraudulent activity " The Green New Deal," fraudulent activity Hoaxes Climate Change! I'm still paying $150. dollars or more for $5. a gallon of gas and gonna be getting worse in end of the summer and fall of 2022 more gas prices going up and more illegally Demoncrats Party's government Taxes going up and more stuff food and our dollars are not getting any value since Demoncrats Party government and president gave over $600 billions and billions of dollars towards Chinnnniiiiaaaa and Russia and Ukraine without telling REAL American black and white people in America and not helping out REAL American black and white people are still trying to survive without any money without any job without any food without any gas to survive on ! I'm very sorry for telling you my biggest fear of no more REAL American black and white people will not be able to survive in the next month or so of the dictator Demoncrats Party Terrorists Organization Group in America demanding us REAL American black and white people to die off .
I don't understand what "Link in the description" means, What description? Where is it?
below the video "show more"
The Sansung tablet does not show "show more"
Oticon now allows you to answer the phone remotely by clicking one of the hearing aid buttons.
I had to trade in
my Samsung S21 for a IPhone 13 in order for my Oticon More 2 h.a. Could work. Both were new phones under a year old!
Work how? I am trying Oticon More 2 and have Samsung S10E and work pretty good. Not perfect. But goodm
Phonak !!
you are soooo rite I'm from Jordan and I don't have any problem with English but my hearing is bad and the words on screen is so fast😌
I bought a Panak hearing aid package at a cost of about $6000 and I was not impressed after two years the system broke down and when I enquired about repair service they told me ,,,,,,, Sorry we cannot fix the hearing aid, as being a senior that is rather an expensive hearing aid at a cost of $3000 a year. There are many hearing aids available and the prices vary wildly, I wonder why, for me, Panak is a lousy company, and was quite disappointed with the longevity of the unit. I like the in-ear placed units and it does not create a problem if you wear glasses and a took on winter. with covid/glasses and taking Panak behind ear unit is a disaster, you may get a bonus for saying what you say on CZcams, as a senior I feel I was taken for a right!!!!!!! I find it very frustrating to find a hearing aid, reasonable in cost and meets my particular needs.
You meant to say " Phonaks," hearing Aides ? 🤔
It think it will all come mainly down to the Audiologist & a REM and personal preference!
Paradise has the better assistive devices range but I hear so, so much better with ‘just’ the Mores. No comparison.
$5000 for my Oticons and multiple factory repairs, replaced twice, reboots randomly even still, and Bluetooth sucks compared to my previous Phonaks.
Oh, and my crossover totally died after just one year and I was told I’d have to buy another at full price.
I won’t buy another Oticon.
Can the oticon connect to two Apple devices at the same time?
No, it cannot. You can pair to multiple devices but they can't both be actively connected at the same time.
@@DrCliffAuD being able to be connected to my iPad and phone is a huge feature for me and probably a dealbreaker. I am trying out the Phillips HAs from Costco here in Canada basically Oticon. I spoke with tech support and was told they should be able to connect to both devices but they can’t make it work.
@@waynebeck7801 they don't. You're wasting your time.
What do you think about Costco no longer employing audiologists.
Didn't realize they stopped. Is that just a rumor or has it been confirmed?
@@DrCliffAuD I went in to have my hearing aids adjusted and was seen by a technician who told me that Costco has replaced their audiologists with technicians.
@@sharronlynneharmening170 interesting, I will reach out to my Costco Audiologist friends to confirm.
@Sharron Lynne Harmening, just confirmed through a bunch of Costco Audiologists that they are still employed by Costco. Not sure why your provider made that claim.
@@DrCliffAuD I have heard several AuDs make that claim. They are trying to discourage people from going to Costco. There are a few crooks in the field of audiology.
I am 8 months into wearing hearing aids. I was fitted with the Oticon Mores. I was told how wonderful they are, state of the art blah blah blah. Now, 8 months later I am convinced I'm not crazy. They are the worst. After not being able to hear the person across the table from me in a busy, ambient filled noisy restaurant I am starting my search for the correct hearing aid. I have gone to the person who programmed them and he said that they are already at the maximum setting for cutting background noise. There is nothing unusual about my hearing except that I fit the classic profile of a 70 year old that is starting to lose the high end. My hearing loss is considered mild however I assume that any one wanting to sell me what will be my new pair of hearing aids will want an updated hearing test. I am not in a hurry here and my interest is in a hearing aid that uses directional microphones that Phonak I understand pioneered. I am not sure this review reinforces that or makes any comment about Phonak's directionality versus Phonak. I am open to recommendations here!
mileskapper - I'm in your situation - same age - same hearing loss - and considering the Oticon More 1. I'm wondering if your provider did the "Real Ear Measures" when they programmed your devices?
@@jimowen2356 The Oticon More was (and apparently in many circles still is) one of the newest state of the art technologies out there. It was my first hearing aid ten months ago and I never questioned the 'experts' who sold them to me and adjusted them. Long story short, maybe it's the guy who adjusted them once based on my hearing test, but I find them a total disaster. It seems the ambient noise goes up when I turn them up in a crowded restaurant. I leave with a headache. I started to research Phonak 90R's. This is the latest directional mic technology and the more I read the more impressed I am. Of the five providers in my area who take insurance and are exclusively Phonak dealers I have found one I trust. Keep in mind I am looking at the Phonak Lumity 90R's, NOT the Paradise model the Oticon's are measured against above. The lumity 90R has gotten great reviews dealing with the issue I mentioned before. I free lance as a stage manager for corporate events and my plate is full until the first week of March. Once I am available the first week of March my intention is to try the Lumity 90R's for the 45 day trial and see what happens! One thing Phonak has going for it is they are owned by the same company who owns Sennheiser microphones. In my world thats' a big plus as Sennhiesers are considered state of the art! We'll let you know what i find out.
This has been my experience so far as well. The Oticon software doesn't seem to do a very good job of picking out who is talking.
Oticon basically needs an iphone to function at its best for streaming. There is no way I will buy a new phone just to make my hearing aids work their best. As a computer specialist, I know better than to enter Apple's "Walled Garden" and put up with their limitations.
And the Signia app is so basic I never use it. And I flat out told a rep that.
Why would you want a more complicated app? Signia app is great, especially with the spatial configurator for better speech clarity and understanding.
Why do my Oticon BTE devices only last approximately 5 years? Probably planned obsolescence. 6K for a pair each time out of pocket cost. Medicare doesn’t pay for them.
They can last as long as you want them to. The 5-7 years is on average.
ugh my tinnitus kept me up all night :(
I miss the analog devices, they worked so much better.
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A lot of people depending on hearing aids are older than you and will have a hard time following you with that speed.
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You can use the CZcams playback speed setting to slow him down!
@@Sun18Jul Good idea. Or better, Unsubscribe from his channel.