10 things you NEED to do to KEEP your DIESEL BMW 335d FOREVER | Some May SURPRISE You
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Do you own an E90 BMW 335d? If you do, here are 10 things you should to to make sure it lasts a long time. These diesel cars are known to last a VERY long time, as long as you take proper care of them, they will take care of you
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For those wanting a overall on this video. (I own one of these cars making 350+whp and 166k miles. so I give some of my own thoughts)
Delete the emissions. Install a down pipe (catted or not catted is your choice. The catted just helps with diesel smell outside the car). Delete swirl flaps (they fail and will kill the motor). Tune the car for the deletes (I recommend Malone). Replace the Harmonic Balancer (they do fail or already did on your car). Replace the Thermostat and water pump at 100k (operating coolant temps will be around 190F or 85-90C. Vacuum lines need to be done often (mileage depends on driving behaviors) watch tune my euro's video for tips). Change your air filter out (you know you've not done it so do it). Replace the Glow plug module and glow plugs at the same time (trust me...about every 80k miles average). Run the oil you want (if deleted) otherwise run the OEM recommended oil due to ash on DPF. Change your fuel filter every 10-15k miles.
Another note. You should be using the North American BMW Diesel owners page on facebook. We have tons of documentation for reference materials as well as tuner reviews and lots of helpful people.
He says to drive the car hard. Its a diesel. Truck diesel motors rely on load (towing). So with a diesel car it helps to get above 2k rpm once in a while. Driving above 2k rpm the car moves out like a rocket so be cautious doing this in wet or cold environments.
This is a great comment and resource for anyone wanting to get into these things. Do you mind linking to the Facebook group? I'd like to join it myself, and have others join
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Faryar Prodhan this is the correct link. Thank you
what kind of fuel economy do y’all get with the deletes and tune?
HtownDCT anywhere between 40+mpg on road trips and as low as 28mpg city. Average for mine was 35mpg with spirited pulls during commutes. I have now sold this car and moved on to a 2015 Chevy SS. Didn’t have the desire to spend $8000 on maintenance costs for what was needed. Had my transmission blow the E clutch for 5th gear. Service your transmission regularly and that won’t happen. I bought mine with higher miles so it was too late
I have just recently bought a 335D xDrive M Sport recently 16-plate and will be following your posts! Thanks so much :)
Fascinating video and really great, well put together format.
I have a 335d. Since owning it in the span of 2 years I have change harmonic balancer, (water pump, thermostat, belts, and pulleys ), (glow plugs and controller), motor mounts, (Transmission and Deferential Oil), and the usual maintenance. Right now @ 160k miles, it still runs like new.
Thanks for sharing, 335d is a great car
I did the same maintenance and love the car. But I got the 200mi warning and had to park the car for almost six months. Just had a tune done and I am in the process of removing the swirl flaps. Can’t wait to drive my baby again. Never thought I would love diesels so much.
Thats not strange
You have changed every part there is for it 🤣
Excellent, thorough overview....amazed you were able to go through all that while driving! Only 1 issue with your video...now I have punch list of stuff to do on my 2012 x5 35d with 170k that has been rock solid despite all my neglect!!! Thx again!
Hey man! Thanks for the vid, also great info... i just bought one and i am keen to do the suggested. Safe riding. Regards from Slovenia
Great checklist flying catman! 💪🏻
Saludos from Sweden 🇸🇪
Mine is on 298,000. Totally reliable in the last 12 years. I do look after it, services early, every 10k. Gearbox Transmission serviced every 100k . I did the timming chain at 200k but they said it was still in good shape. Never gonna sell it. I have the original engine, turbos and gearbox. But i upgraded the diff to an LSD for better traction. It makes a big difference, huge improvement.
I recomend a full emmision delete to stop dpf cat egr getting bunged up with black carbon soot. Plus a remap. Mine is running about 330 hp 480lbs. It can produce a bit more power but i backed off for durability because the exhaust temps were too high. i get high 30s mpg in town and mid 50s mpg on the highway. Can do over 500 miles per tank on a long highway run. Great car.
I tried an F30 and the new G21. Steering feel and driver interaction has been removed. Plus the G21 steering tech interferes if you cross the white line in the road trying to pass a cyclist. So for me I prefer the driving experience of an E91 chassis. So I paid off the balloon payment and kept it. Maybe ill buy another one. Im thinking to add a 335i for fun and keep using 335d as my daily.
yessss more 335d content please! i love it
releasing lots of 335d vids, hope you're enjoying them!
brilliant and helpful video dude, cheers
Thanks!!
I have one being shipped from cali, should be here in a week or so... cannot wait!!!
you are going to love it
Just picked up a 2010 with 140k, very well maintained.
I average 34mpg on a mixed 80 mile/day commute, and that's with 285's and 245's. With the stock 255's and 225's, i averaged 37.
I just bought one. This is one of the most exciting cars I've had. They make alot of torque and can be upgraded for a good low cost
Hows it holding up
Such a fun car. Definitely surprised me a ton that day lol
I had a 120d 07 plate from new I did 209k miles in it and never changed anything on it. 90% was motorway/highway miles so that definitely helps. All I did was service it very year like click woke and used premium diesel. So hearing this makes me think wow I’ll stay away from the 335d.
Just bought my first bmw and chose the 335d! Thanks for the good knowledge!
Best car BMW ever made, be sure to do all of the things you need to do to make them reliable
Me too Sept last year.
Update?
sounds like a great commute car for 40 mile a day round trips at 70 mph speed limit and damn economical. Just wonder about the expense of maintenance though
My e92 335d coupé, all original, 322000k, works like a charm, best car ever
I got 250k miles on my 06 330xi... Commute from Roxbury to Manhattan everyday , right near you. All about general maintenance... don't let cars get away from you
Like most German cars, they really do require a lot of maintenance and work around. I’m driving a ford fiesta and it’s so nice just to get in it a drive it, change the oil once year 🙂
Nice Vid. Bought mine in 2015 with 95k miles on it. I'm kind of a super commuter, Western Pennsylvania to Chicago quite often. It's over 270k miles now. I wish I could have done the ABC delete back then but had different priorities. Now the DPF is intolerable so we are getting rid of that and tuning it. Waiting on parts. Yes, I am putting thousands into a car with 270k on it. Planning to run it forever if I can. Agree with most of what you brought up. I've run Castrol full synthetic and change oil every ~13k miles (whatever was recommended). Another thing I do is run PS Diesel Kleen, every other tank in the summer and every tank in the winter. Other problems I've had along the way were just normal wear and tear. Its been a fantastic car and if I ever total it I'll buy another.
13k miles is way too long on castrol. If deleted run diesel oil
This is funny to see cause I'm a diesel truck guy who just grabbed a 330 for a daily ... All good advice you gave though
Mines now on 336,000. 2010 330d 245hp stock 1 turbo model now tunned to 330hp. I service it early every 10k regardless of what the onboard computer sayes which is 18 to 20k. Gearbox at 100k 180k 260k and last month.
I did all the emmisions and swirl flap deletes. balancer. After watching this video ill do the
Vacum lines
Glow plug controler.
Fuel consumption is sensitive to tyre choice and a stock 330d 6spd manual is much lighter and more efficient than a heavy 335d auto. About 10mpg.
On Bridgestone Turanza's early 2010s and before emission delete & remap low 30s mpg in town mid 40s highway. Then....
With remap and emmision delete, high 30s mpg in town mid 50s mpg highway. Then.... In 2018...
Switched to Michelins. Tried Cross climate + and 2 in Winter (Both are great in snow ice mud), E.Primacy (poor in wet or bumpy roads) and Primacy 4+ in Summer, incredible difference compared with tyres from 10 years ago.... Much less roll resistance friction.
40s mpg in Town, mid 60s mpg on the highway is possible if you cruise gentley in top gear 55 to 65 mph.
Does anyone have advice on the timming chain ? After 336,000 miles should i change them ? Its a big job over $2000.
Mine has just over 330 hp and 480lbs torque. Can pull 6th gear all the way past 160 mph but you are getting close to red line.
I highly recommend birds bmw B1 dynamics kit with an LSD. If you can handle a neutral car then also their anti roll bar kit. Best $5k you will spend on the car. Ride quality, traction and body control are transformed. At some point the 3rd gen 2000s tech turbo will need replacing so ill upgrade it to one of the latest GTD 5th gens. These spool up from 1250 rpm and are good for 360hp 520lbs + all from 1 turbo.
Love this car bro, u are very lucky owning it
I love everything about this car, it's so good
11. Change the stock intercooler with biger aftermarket one.
I've done all of these things on mine except the balancer but it probably needs doing.
If you have the n47 n57 you should leave your swirl flaps in much better design on those
My 2 cents worth. With respect to the gearbox, based on experience I would change out the mechatronic sleeves every 80,000 miles as these will compress with the heat, irrespective of how often you change the oil, they will simply not seal as well as they do when new. If you change them every 80K then you won't get into a situation where at 100-120K (which I did) you find you need to replace the seals effectively halfway between an 80K and 160K transmission service and will be spending money on more on another new filter and transmission oil (expensive).
You're correct on that, for sure
There are additives to buy that clean the particle filter . The instructions are well gas 3000 RPM for 15 minutes If emergency cleaning is required
I am now just learning about the 335D and getting interested in it rather than getting am m 3! Gas mileage savings!!!
and more torque
I had a few e90 till now, sold them and now looking for 335d. Found one but it's a bit expensive to import to my contry. But it's a fantastic car that im looking foword to.
Great 335d info, how you doing Elias
Doing well my friend, working a lot, but work is good
I have one with power mods and its still running at over 400,000kms (260,000 miles)
Fantastic video! You are right on target with your list. How do remember all the points and commentary while you're driving? You'd make a good priest! I have a 2010 335d with 155k miles. After getting a bunch of emission-related codes and an engine malfunction light (in yellow, thank God!), I limped home. I had the car towed to BPC in Raleigh, NC. They're doing the delete, engine mounts, rear control arm, MOTUL (this is their recommended brand) oil change, rear control arm, and a few other things. I love this car--bought it new for 40K out the door. They tell me the carbon build up isn't bad, but I am leaning towards a walnut blast and new vacuum lines and swirl delete. What do you think? Also, since BMW and my local mechanic stood by the lifetime trans fluid recommendation of BMW, I'm wondering if it's too late to change the fluid?
Thanks! I've been told I'd make a great priest all my life, that's probably why my career has been focused on people, mentoring and coaching.
Oh, and definitely change the fluid!!! Not too late
Nice video thanks :) I would like o change my 335D E92 SPORT DESIGN from 2009 which I own since 2014 and replace it with an E92 335i but need to pay more than 10 000EUR to get a new one which is even 2 years older with 45 000km less. Do you recommend this change or shall I keep my 335d?
I have an X5 2010 35D at 190,000 at its still lasting me, only thing wrong with mine its the dpf, I didn't know I can just delete it versus replacing it, I almost purchased a new one.
The V-band is giving me problems. Which way does the gasket go? Raised side to turbo?
Thinking of buying one of those...how reliable is the transmission on these?? I've owned an E53 3.0d with the ZF 6hp and it's awful..the clutches needed replacement two times with very frequent oil changes...can anyone tell me about the reliability of this trans?? Thanks
Mine is a 2010 model. Hes right about the emissions delete. On mine we did a triple delete of the EGR and hollowed out the internals of the dpf and the cat. So if the saftey engineer takes a look it appears to be there. But they are empty. With this setup a tune is needed. I have over 350hp and over 450lbs torque. Which is enough for the transmission. Also important is fitting an LSD. This makes a big difference.
I do my oil and filter changes halfway. Not at 18k like bmw says but at 9k miles. And the oil is always dirty and black and thick like treacle.
Another important thing for longevity are the gearbox and diff oil and filters. I do mine either at 100,000km or every 5 years. And my mechanic always checks everything for leaks at the services.
What i have not done yet is the timming chain. Does anyone know when does that need to be done ? Im on 268,000 and love the car. I want it to last forever.
I’m running 970nm’s on stock trans with hybrids, they can handle a little over 1000nm’s on stock trans.
@@bartselter5332 omg that's a strong transmission, i just got a 335d and your comment make me feel better xD
Just got a 2012 X5D with 100k miles, no idea about its maintenance history. Driving it back to Tx from Fl I opened up the Torque app on my phone and saw coolant was only getting to 160F. Swapped thermostat and did oil change and air filter the next weekend. I used Rotella T6 since I use it for all my cars, but didn't know about the soot buildup issue running that oil with being deleted, so thanks for the tip. I'll switch to Euro Pennzoil Platinum 5w40 until I get deleted which will hopefully happen later this year.
Some guy under here was saying not to use 5W-40
@@OzzieMozzie777 The environment in which the engine is running as well as other factors have a large impact on how well and long something can operate for. The engine now makes another 100hp and 150tq from factor specs after a tune. That's as well as 110° Texas heat make oil break down much faster so running a higher viscosity is beneficial to me. I now use Valvolie blue 5w40 synthetic and change it every 5k miles. Soot buildup on the oil is a big problem with the M57, so unless you are running a secondary oil filter system you should keep the oil change intervals around the 5k mile mark. Most M57s with bearing issues are going extended intervals.
Good post as always. Do you know any shop in the New York area as good as Kessel to bring my 335D to for some of these maintenance? Kessel is about 4 hours out for me
unfortunately not anymore, alot of them have closed down recently, I would go to Kassel if you can
FlyinGato thank you much
If you live in countries like Sweden, however, you cannot remove the particle filter because in Sweden there is a car inspection on cars. Once a year, one of the things that is checked is what comes out of the exhaust pipe. Result there may be a driving ban on the car Or a re-inspection
Yea that’s unfortunate and frankly, unamerican
Hey Gato, i'm from nova scotia. Just subscribed but have been watching your channel for a long time. You are very knowledgable with cars. I have a 2017 type r (bought new) and a e90 2006 bmw 330i manual (had it for 10 years). The beemer is my daily and it has 250000kms (around 150000 miles) - its a great car. However lately, there has been a drain on the battery and 2 separate mechanics have not been able to figure out what's causing the drain . Haven't been able to start it in the morning when it's cold (I'm in canada!) and I just keep a battery charger on it overnight now. Any thoughts on this? thanks
Thanks for reaching out! Best way to figure that out is to hook up an amp meter and start removing fuses one by one to see which circuit is causing the draw.
@@FlyinGato thanks gato. take care
Problems with dpf is not allowing regen to be completed before turning car off
I drive mines everyday. Just heard that same hissing noise. Vacuum hoses it is. Nothing major there. Other than that I'm told I need to clean my catalytic converters. Idk but I'm real close to just selling it.
My 335d is in the shop with injector codes after the ABC delete and JR 2.8 tune... I love my car $$$$$ :)
it probably flies
FlyinGato I’ve since gotten it back after replacing o-rings and crush washers for the injectors. She’s quick. Along with the xHP stage 3 tranny tune which is totally worth it.
Hi,
Awesome summary.
Are you able to pass emissions after the EGR and DPF delete?
I leave in an area where emission inspection is required and that stops me from any mods you have mentioned.
Thanks
Hi buddy,
Yes you will pass. But does your saftey / emissions inspector also check if the Cat / DPF and EGR are still present ?
I got mine hollowed out internally just in case he ever checked. Instead of swaping for a de cat down pipe.
The effect is sharper throttle response and much more bottom end punch / torque especially if you ask the tunner to focus on that area. 1200 rpm and up. In stock form its after 1600 rpm.
Also a small improvement in noise and exhaust volume. Not much but maybe 10 to 15 % more as a best guess.
Maybe in US there is no official yearly inspections (MOT) but we have. You just can't delete EGR.
Why do diesel BMW's seem to last longer than petrol equivalents? Is it because of the stronger block? Petrol's also have a problem with oil consumption. Would you recommend a 320d instead of a 320i ?
With all the emissions equipment gone, what did you do to still get it to pass emissions? Thinking about putting one of these in my 3rd gen 4runner
Diesel won't fail emission tests unless something is Broken like nozzle(s) is letting things thru.
Does the tune eliminate the check engine light for emission codes? Love your insight on this subject
It dos
How much does the ABC delete cost at the shop? I'm looking at a 335D at a good price, debating on DIY or just dropping it off at the shop first thing.
What is a abc delete?
I can confirm all of that after owning a 535d and a 525d for a total of 12 years. But keep in mind that DPF delete is not legal in EU Countries. Also the AGR (forgot the american name... Exhaust oil something)? has to stay on. So... If you want to go the legal way, clean or replace those parts, when ever you feel that they impact the performance of your car. Because all the carbon that they should let out of the engine will stay inside and clog up the engine.
Definatly change the fuel filter, I picked up a 335d and the car was going into limp mode under heavy throttle turns out fuel filter was so dirty it wasn't letting sufficent fuel get to the rail.
yea gotta change it regularly.
I'm in PA too, looking at one of these now, did the EGR delete prevent you from passing inspection?
PA doesn't do emissions testing on diesels
@@FlyinGato I’m in Philly I’m bout to trade one of my Lex in a grab one but I’m afraid I can’t handle the Maintance running cost of a diesel tho are they super expensive compared to Lexus or should I be okay I heard they leak all time
@@FlyinGato neither does Texas
Pa does checks for emission equipment to be installed or it will fail state inspection
What's the cost for all of this?
Hi awesome video!
I would love to keep my truck but I am so tired of the emission issues on my 2010 35D. Would the Kassel Tune for DPF EGR DEF Delete make my vehicle pass NJ Inspection? Anyone from NJ had the delete and tune then passed inspection? THANKS!
I used to pass NY inspection when I was tuned
Finally bought 1.
how you like it?
A blast to drive. Built like a tank and fairly easy to work on. Got ABC delete done and Dudmd stage 2 tune. I'm catching her up on maintenance as I go but it's a really fun car. Reminds me of my old e39 M5.
I changed my boost solenoid 3 times because my 2011 BMW 335i coupe keeps cutting out under full throttle and sometimes it’ll throw me into stupid mode as well. PLEASE HELP HELP HELP. I am sooooo frustrated and overwhelmed with this I had a BMW master tech look at it for months and he couldn’t figure it out!!! Im on MHD Stage 2+ with 93 octane pump gas only with full bolt ons and either a stock turbo or vargas level one or vargas level 2 turbo, the previous owner couldn’t prove to me that he swapped the turbo so I think its stock. GOD HELP ME im so close to ditching this piece of shit and driving it into a wall!!!!
Malone has an option for DPF, Adblue, EGR, and intake flaps deletes. Can someone explain to me what those are and if they are necessary or not
Delete it all.
Half of these things have already happened to mine! 2011, 120k miles! Getting deleted and tuned right now
What was your approximate cost for the delete and tune ?
Where are you getting it deleted at?
@@emmanuelaugustin4427 Hey! So for the delete, I paid $3500 for parts and $1500 to have everything installed which included a fresh carbon cleanup before installation.
Tune from JR Autotuning - $944
Full P&L exhaust - $1800
EGR race pipe - $225
ATM intake - $325
Swirl Flaps - $35
This was all purchased 4 years ago so prices will probably very.
Hope this helps!
i heard diesel is really expensive in the us…
how much do you pay for a litre or gallon of diesel?
for a gallon I pay about 3.20 at the moment, last year I was paying about 2.50
Do not put 5W 40 oil in this car OK you need to use 530 to trade in the LLO for the wonderful things are kind of falling apart as far as he said something in a previous video you thought of the year magnetic damper possibly stopped engine vibration
what do you think are the best sounding exhaust or headers for a 335d
In my opinion a Kassel Performance Downpipe and a muffler delete are perfect
Does the catless downpipe smell bad from the inside of the cabin? Or is the smell it on the outside
Only outside if Windows down.
will kessel performance remove dpf and scr system? I'm at 140k miles and I'm on my second DPF
Do you allow dpf to complete regen before turning off engine?
Hey man, if I delete and do everything you say in the video will I need to go to a tuner to tune the car or will the car be fine if I do the stuff you suggest doing?
If you're doing the deletes you'll need a tune, Kassel performance does a great job, give them a call
@@FlyinGato I live in Minnesota so it's a little bit of a drive, is it possible to delete everything and drive there or after I delete everything do I need to get a tune before driving? Are there any options closer or is that the only place you know of?
@@vitaleysimonovich842 they may be able to do it online. You will need a computer with the bmw program to do it though.
Any difference between the 328d and the 335d? I was looking to get a 328.
328s have too many emission problems and way less power
I have a 14 535 D, would just about everything apply, I believe it is the same motor as the 335d?
Just about yea
Yes in a nutshell. Different engines. M57 vs n57. Oil changes in f10 every 5k with 5w40 Amsoil is key on that timing chain bro. I own a 16. Fully deleted and tuned
150000miles on the clock,need worried about timing chain?
What kind of trash oil is rotela . Bmw recommend castroil or mobil1 oil.
Sad that we don’t get fast diesels anymore
I know right, diesels are becoming extinct!
there is another solution, also diesel mixed with HVO or mixed with biodiesel, then there will simply be less soot
How do pass inspection with deleted emissions
how do you pass smog with the abc delete?
Thats what i want to know lol
how many mpg do you get on it? thanks
about 40 miles per galons, he said it in another 335d video he did :P
How much does kassell charge to make all the deletes and a tune. Just purchased a 335d with 120k.
Around 3500 usually, and depending on what else is needed
How much is to do the ABC with Malone tuner?
The Malone tune is about 1000. The delete parts are about 300 bucks for a vrsf down pipe, 120 for a bimmer tune egr delete, 50 for a bimmer tune swirl flap delete. You will need to cut open the scr to remove the cat and weld shut. Labor costs can vary but in the bmw diesel groups there are mechanics that can do it.
I get it with deleting the DPF but if you do that you'll never pass your yearly MOT which is going to be an issue unless you know someone who can do you a pass certificate 🤔
depends on where live. most states don't inspect.
Anyone experience with a thermostat broken which stays closes on this car?
Make sure the greens and left have no say
I just bought a 335d M Sport. Out here in San Diego California we can't remove the EGR system. What else do you recommend?
nightcrawler289 you can get a tune to electronically bypass it,
You can get a block off plate and a tune that deletes it to stop carbon build up
I’m also in San Diego and am looking for a shop to delete my X5 35d. Let me know if you find something
Do these have cp4?
Cp3
Transmission enjoys getting ripped. Ok 😂
it's, so far at least, indestructible.
@@FlyinGato good to hear. Cuz I'll be doing the same in mine haha
so a follow up question? is there a way to pass smog with the abc delete. Because i cant make the car road legal if it cant pass smog?
Buy a volvo v70 d5 and enjoy the drive instead of fixing all kinds of problems
Why does everyone put Rotella T6 on a pedestal? It’s over hyped trash. Had noisy lifters on 6.7 Cummins with Rotella T6, have tried valvoline and Mobil and didn’t have the same noisy lifters as I did with T6
Was it the same weight as the T6? My skid steer, Roxor and both bimmers I own have exclusively used T6, no issues so far
@@FlyinGato yep same weights, same intervals… mine experience is not isolated either. Have heard many with similar results.
What have you switched over to?
2006 E320 cdı best diesel engine 212000 miles on my Mercedes Benz
What’s the cost for everything over the life time compared to normal gasoline 4/6 cylinder reliable cars
Much, much less considering in expecting an easy 250k miles
Almost all advised tips are not legal in my country :)
Is the 535d good?
Yes i love mine :)
First thing, don't drive it 😂
Fluid is not going to last 60k miles
I do mine every 30k. Amsoil
sounds like you have a failed wheel bearing........
You are totally irresponsible taking about DPF and EGR removal.. I concur these systems are a total nightmare but they are fitted for a reason... Get yourself an education on “diesel particulates”...
You guys will never learn, and will pay and will pay and will pay. Buy a slow Toyota and it will cost little per year to maintenance. Prepare to pay each bmw maintenance $1000 plus from your local mechanic.
Yes all of the high performance car manufacturers should shut down. No more Ferrari, Porsche, BMW. Only Toyota now.
Just a hole of money waste...
Old cars use to last forever.... 2008+.... like Phone.. use it few years.. and buy another
What a piece of shit car. To many problems. Belongs in a junk yard
Do you own one?
Did you break yours or what
Naw lol. You dont have any clue what your talking about
@@Re-Booter no he doesn't lol. No way. These cars are very solid
@@scottp6761 I just sold mine due to the economy, gonna miss it.
Guys if I have a 2014 535d Xdrive should the chain be going bad at 172k miles? I just bought it and mechanic (has 116 reviews rating at 4.8 stars, seems like a great shop) is going to do a carbon clean of it before trying to go for the chain job at $7k. It runs perfect and gobs of power, no CEL either.
You have next generation of this engine N57 and chain should be changed earlier than on M57.