Building a 10,000W Hyper Ebike (Tesla Battery)
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- It was funny editing this video and looking back at the bike before it was clapped out and covered in mud.
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00:00 Unboxing the frame
00:37 Unboxing the motor kit
01:07 Disassembling the Tesla battery
02:58 Mounting the controller
4:00 Rear break is goofy
4:46 First test
6:07 Building the battery
8:55 Quick mods
9:27 Installing the battery
9:47 Programming plug
10:23 Front wire cover
10:40 Some quick jumps
10:49 Installing Hubsinks and Statorade
12:16 "Testing" the bike
12:49 Fixing the bike
14:00 Modding the controller
14:20 Breaking the bike some more
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Because everyone keeps asking, the build was around $3,100. In part 2 I will do a detailed breakdown on what and what not to buy, and if building one is even worth the effort (spoiler: you can buy them mostly assembled from AliExpress for cheaper so building one is only worth it if you love building things)
I’m not normally the type to ask for you to subscribe, but I have 3 other projects I’m working on currently that are similar to this and the videos doing well helps motivate me to build more stuff, so hit that button!
Also, I’ve learned a lot about building battery packs since this video, would anyone be interested in a tutorial that goes through the thought process of making a pack?
sellout :P
@@GravitySandwich
Yeah I know, it hurts my soul to comment something like that but this video is doing too good to pass it up. At least I didn’t say to hit the bell 😁
@@Calthecool Haha i was just joking anyway! You earned my sub :)
ye an me (uk) leaning this shit aint much on Internet so always good to build knowledge defo checking out other vids
@@charliejason9615
Yeah I was in that same situation, and there isn’t too many build videos of these bikes so that’s one of the reasons I made this vid.
this video is way to good for only 92 views
That’s usually how it goes. It’s getting some more now. Meanwhile the 17 second no editing no commentary video I posted on a whim has 60k views, you never know what will do well.
@@Calthecooljs a vid suggestion to also save u some money and it’d be intresting can you try to make a budget e bike? Usually in the past i can get the price pretty low by thrifting old bikes and getting cheaper controllers and battery’s but u seem a lot more experienced then me 😅. I’d love to see it and great vid btw ur underrated asf
@@Calthecool i was early that's why it had 92,
Now 2,9k 😮@@Spiros219
@@ayon3x Yeah I am interested in doing that, but I can't decide whether to use a new cheap bike or a used one off marketplace. In a lot of videos like that, the person finds a great bike for like $100 or already has one and that's the main reason the build is so cheap, but most people won't get a deal like that. I was thinking about buying one of those cheap moped style bikes and upgrading it, maybe keeping the budget under $1900 for a 6000w ebike.
Hats off to you for committing to that full long build of a mystery bike. Coming from a seasoned motocross rider and CZcams reviewer I cringe to see that suspension snap.
I love the rough riding and crashing. Really shows where the weaknesses are in the construction
Damn you guys abused the hell out of that bike. I've taken mine on trails and MTB courses and no damage other than rust.
Yeah, I'm not the easiest on stuff because I like to fix things so I don't care if they break. We were jumping it to flat and all types of stuff.
Wow, thank you for not doing "Subscribe to watch how it rides" after building it. Great video.
@@DivyangM
I did kinda do that, but not by choice.
@@Calthecool That's perfectly fine, otherwise how to grow the channel. But, some CZcamsrs stop the video just after the build and then don't upload the next video for a month which is annoying. I personally enjoy the videos where something happens and then the result is in the same video. Anyway, hope your channel grows. Keep it up. Good luck. 🙂
Heyo, I work with high-voltage EVs and some stuff I feel like I should just mention as a safety.
Please do NOT use solder on HV lines. The HV terminals are meant to be crimped. High voltage connection can easily get hot enough in some situation to melt the solder. It is industry standard to never solder these as it is a safety issue.
I would also double check the bus bar size and thickness you are using to connect the cells together. Depending on how much current you pull through your pack, the bus bar (seems like you are using nickel or tin strips) may add a lot of heat you don't want.
Very cool build and clean video! Keep up the good work!
@@XxBanziixX1 I now know to not solder those wires, although it should probably be fine considering they are big copper terminals with 3 gauge wire. The nickel strips are 8 x 0.2mm, which I determined would be good enough after looking at a bunch of forums, all of which gave different values.
@@Calthecool just because the wires can take the current without getting overly hot doesn't mean you wont run into a situation like the terminal screw coming loose and causing a high resistance fault that heats the terminal and melts the solder.
@@jonesy2009 ok, I’ll crimp my wires from now on.
Loved the extreme riding to find as many as posible weak spots in your build. Not only a smart guy but also a serious bike rider. I hope you take care of safety and wear full protective gear while pushing your bike to it's limits. I look forward to seeing the build update and more riding from you
@@rainhodl3er72 You are right about the protective gear, I was wearing 60% bike helmet and 40% full face helmet before I saw the suspension snap and my brother ragdoll, now I’m going to always wear the full face.
Insane project you got there man, thanks for sharing it with us! Looking forward for part 2
Bro you had fun with this that's all matter, more to come! this is good project 😎
I built exactly the same battery pack.
but 20s 13p LG cells
What was built in a triple stack.
For my stealth bomber
but I used 2 mm of nick
And 2mm copper 2x =4mm copper.
2 mm of nickel strips is nowhere near enough.
for 72v 150A.
And I only used BMS for charging.
And use a diy pre-charge system contact for discharging.
The way you built that battery pack.
It will be touching the sides
Very tight.
The side boats will be touching.
I don't blame you i done them mistakes in the past.
Yes this was my first pack so there are definitely some mistakes. I think that it will be fine touching the sides, as it's wedged in there tight and I used the plastic sheets. I think that 8mm x 0.2mm nickel was fine for this pack, as each strip will only carry 10 amps. It will also only be outputting 150 amps for a brief period of time, because the motor is a 5T winding so it accelerates too fast to be able to pull full power for long, unless I rode it in deep sand or something.
This was an awesome watch. It was hilarious seeing it get destroyed & then just fixed up again. Glad you’re using the hell out of it. Keep it up!
That battery is insane
You haven't seen anything yet, the battery I make in this video can output the equivalent of 14hp, but people build truly insane packs that can output the equivalent of 80hp: www.reddit.com/r/batteries/comments/1dkubga/first_post_here_26s14p_p42a_936v_nominal_1092v/
@@Calthecoolhey try making simple arc furnace powered by those batteries using carbon rods for welding. It would be much stronger than simple furnace from wall output with the 12hp power. It probably will melt steel easily
@@stasi0238 that would be powerful, I’ve messed with electric arcs with graphite with smaller lipo batteries but nothing this big.
@@Calthecool I used cheap Chinese arc welder (3kw) as simple arc furnace and it melts every metal but has a hard time melting steel and the steel hardens in crucible before it can be used. Copper, bronze aluminium etc melts really easy. I think using such battery as yours you probably could melt kg of steel and use it to make things for bikes. Like print wave metal castings for handles and such.
@@Calthecool my jaw just dropped. im running 2kw, you're running 10kw, now 58.9kw???
Don't worry. If you don't have clearance. You will.
Nothing wrong with a little self clearance!
thank you greatly for actually abusing the bike (like i would if i had it) and not babying it like most. luv to see the carnage and jumps, def stiffen ur shocks i hear them bottom out
Your welcome. I've watched enough boring bike review videos where all they do is ride it on the street and maybe a dirt path, I knew I had to actually make this video interesting and show what the bike can and can't do.
@@Calthecool stay goated hyped for the next vid
Bro keep posting this videos sick and surprisingly good quality for a small channel
bro, you have an insane amount of knowledge. This was crazy I wish i could add +1M views. keep up the incredible content.
Great work, a range test in the future would be pretty interesting !
@@MathieuTechMoto will do, that will be in part 2
I love the build, but “hyper ebike” brother that’s a motorcycle
Yeah, it's somewhere in the middle. Depends who you ask.
This was a great video, thanks for sharing
Damn, learned allot. I think i'm finally ready to take on a custom ebike project.
That's a hell of a BMS you have there.
Wow that was super cool!
This is incredible. Youre Gonna blow up man
This desveres much more attention.
I had three daly BMS-s and all of them killed my battery after a few cycles. Never buy this brand anymore. Nice built tho.
@@xricsi1097 Yes I definitely won’t, I’ve learned more about Daly since I bought this one.
Great work with the bike mate!
Thanks
Thanks for sharing! Great info
dope shit, i recently made a emoto as well (although only 8kw) its cool to see how you did yours!
8kW is powerful, this bike was 8kW most of the time I rode it and it was lots of fun.
lol talk about pushing things to the limit, this was priceless. thanks.
Great patience and skill with battery 🔋 👌 👍 😎
Motorized bike is sick!
This video has just inspired my ultimate bike build. I will be making one ASAP
this is the most custom build i ever seen
@@the_auyitboy You haven’t seen many then, this one is pretty basic compared to some others.
Dude epic! keep it coming!
good vid, nice build
Underrated creator u deserve wayyy more than 1.3k subs
the video ive been waiting for since tesla started getting big
Loved this Vedic he’s so amazing ❤
I did similar build, tesla cells, sabvoton 72200 now on the bike vector ebike frame
@@LUCASMACHOWSKI the vector frame looks so nice, that would be a fun build
lol dang you are full sending that thing dude
This is really cool
showing how hard u rode that earned my sub.
how does this not have more views crazy
Great work sir! You deserve more subscribers
Thanks! I had 500 last week so they are definitely coming in.
Yall wild god damn 😂 yall put it thru hell
Just got the frame today
Good video dude thanks
subscribed! nice video
Thanks!
Subbed. Been wanting to do a project like this.
Very good video
Such an interesting video 😊😊
ONLY 1.22K SUBS YOU ARE UNDERRATED!!
great job😆
in my opinion a tiny bit of music in the back ground would make these vids be soooooooo satisfying to watch
In my opinion the background music can be distracting, but I'll give it a try. I had to mute a lot of the clips so I know what you mean.
@@Calthecool like nothing to loud but everyone likes there own music 🎶 but I like to see this kind of content
No music. It serves ZERO purpose in such videos. If you need to listen to music when watching a video like this, then you truly are a complete slave to the Matrix.
broh u look so inteligent did, amazing video!!
You get what you pay for when it comes to 18650's. That is such an important aspect of the build. For example I can really accelerate hard on my 7kw E-scooter it's pulls just as much as my camaro til about 20/30 mph, not to say it doesn't have top speed but E-scooters with road tires are INCREDIBLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO SPEED WOBBLE AT 60-70mph. "DON'T GET ROAD TIRES"
I hit speed wobble twice and I wasn't wearing a helmet because I was just going down my own street. Anyway brother I have some High end LG cells I paid a butt load for but they make a HUGE difference in available power under load. I can go look it up if you want, let me know. Because your acceleration is looks to me about 3-4kw at best.
@@BVLVI The only time I went full throttle in this video was when I was on the pile of gravel. I’ll show the acceleration better next video.
I have a FOX DHX 5.0 in the rear and a Marzocchi 888 RC3 Evo Ti in the front, they are smooth as butter, night and day from stock sus
Damn bro you really but that bike thru the ringer 😅 but I love watching people like you fix things again.
My e-bike is no where near that damaged 😅
Fire video
Bro, such a well crafted machine, and the video was perfectly succinct. Could have gone even longer tbh. Thanks for sharing! Can I just encourage you to wear a fullface MIPS helmet? Speaking as someone who just got out of hospital for the 3rd time after a bad bike crash.
@@tubularmonkeymaniac Yes I would have loved to make the video longer. I’m definitely wearing a full face from now on
I like the videos thumbnail!
completely clapped it out after a month. legends 😂❤
@@felixb.59 I prefer the term “testing to find the weak points” 😆
It took me two hours to assemble my ready to go 15KW, 72V 56Ah Samsung cells, 200A controller and new wide frame.
FAR better than my achievements, I just waddle from bed to the couch each day, and back again.
Can you please put the links for all the parts in the description.
I will on the next video, I want to discuss the parts some so you know what to buy.
Looking at it, that rear shock does nothing for you legs because the bottom bracket is mounted directly on the rear swing arm
@@spongeimperium126 Yeah it isn’t the best design.
So when are we getting Part 2?? Love the video man!
New suspension arrives in 12 days, after that I'll start filming.
ur gonna blow up
Great video
Aye the man himself! This video wouldn't be possible without your videos.
@@Calthecool No problem man. and ayyy 12K views in 3 days, you have got yourself a million view video. make sure to get add revanue going. you can make a good chunk of the money back from what you spent on your bike just from this video, Im sure of it!
@@ENDOPRYSMyt
I’m nowhere near monetized, but I’m definitely going to turn it on when I get there.
@@Calthecool oh interesting I thought they changed it to 500 subscribers and 2k hours watch time.
I have a 52v 2000w ebike, its the Deepower 26H pro. that thing goes 55kph, rear wheel drive, 52v 25ah battery, what can I upgrade to make it go faster?
@@mandalmandal4593 higher voltage goes faster, so probably the battery and controller.
Front forks you can get used Marzocchi 888s, they are amazing
i know this might sound crazy but is it possible to retrofit a pc water cooled system into the battery compartment, thus making your system water cooled ?
@@Coyote.five.0 yes you could probably do that but it really isn’t necessary. Maybe if you have a more powerful battery.
@@Calthecool thank you for clarifying 👍
black goes faster
Yeah that's why I got a black motor and controller, should I wrap the battery in black tape also?
Yes
You should upgrade to Fox springs and forks.
@@Christopher-cr7pw That would probably double the cost of the bike. I totally would if I won the lotto.
Love this..
BROO YOU NEED TO TELL US MORE INFO HOW FAST DOES IT GO HOW LONG CAN THE BATTERY LAST HOW MUCH DID IT COST YOU ARE anyways good vid bro keep it up i also want to know how did you learn to do that and is it possible for someone like me to do it at home
It can go 45mph/72kph if I enable something called "field weakening", but it goes 40mph/64kph without that. It cost around $3100, but it's about to cost $3650 when I buy new forks and a rear shock. The battery lasts a long time, I can't tell you exactly how long because I haven't measured it. You could do something like this at home, but you would need a lot of experience and tools. I can do this because I've been building stuff like this for a while: czcams.com/video/Rq3-xH8IPg0/video.htmlsi=BR-WOU_wcyY8tDoj
@@Calthecool thanks bro i have some experience and i also know people that know how to weld and stuff like that so that is no problem but i dont know where to get a tesla battery where did you get yours i have no idea where to start searching and do you have like a patreon or some way i can contact you for some help tnx
@@user-vq7ue6vz4h
Where are you located?
@@Calthecool serbia belgrade
Donde conseguiste ese bloque de baterías
Facebook Marketplace
Ich hatte diese E-Bike auch 😎👌 und es was ein Traum 🤩💪
Leider kann man den Rahmen nicht empfehlen, da ich dieselbe Schwachstelle hatte 🥴
Cooles Video 💯💪
Surrons rub on the break pads too, don't even worry about it. From factory to time to replace, they were rubbing on all 3 bikes I got.
you should try ohlins shock or a fox air shock on the rear!
That awful juddering when the motor gets hot is the 3 phase wires overheating 😮
I'm glad you cut that big ugly stand block off 😅
do some street riding to show off how fast it is
@@olotsu I will in part 2
I hope you tuned the controller to the motor? If not you will not be getting the full torque, cogging can also be heard especially in low speed high torque manoeuvres if the controller is not properly tuned...
@@GapRecordingsNamibia it came tuned, it always ran really smooth except that one time when I got it really hot.
Anyone have some recommendations for front forks and a rear shock? I would like to keep the combined cost below $650 if possible.
The bike weighs probably 140Ibs? haven’t weighed it yet.
For that price, you can find something used from a more reputable brand. Good luck!
How much does bike weigh? Get some used mx stuff, from what bike, march up weight, you may need new triple clamps unless you can match up dia and mod your shock mount and/or swingarm but you're guaranteed reliable performance. Easily achievable for your budget.
Rear shock can be a DNM one, they are failry inexpensive and work great for the price, i see it installed on most surrons and bikes alike, aliexpress should have them for 200$ max, as for the front fork i personally have a Marzocchi Downhill fork, try to go with something that has a 100x15mm front axle as the DH Boost hubs are usually harder to find parts for as they are 20x110mm and most hubs are 32 holes.
@@WiPZ0rGaming Would something like this work: www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804801913527.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.11.6a09ZXBiZXBiA3&algo_pvid=c68e7080-e39e-4207-8083-509612e4c9f8&algo_exp_id=c68e7080-e39e-4207-8083-509612e4c9f8-5&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21720.00%21525.60%21%21%21720.00%21525.60%21%402101eff117205368404303667e103c%2112000031253792742%21sea%21US%210%21AB&curPageLogUid=wog0SQYCEeU4&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A
I would be willing to take it easy and avoid any big jumps, I really don't want to spend $1,000 on a front fork.
@@CalthecoolThis kit looks great and it should fit the bike without any mods, the only thing you have to be 100% careful about ia finding a wheel that suits the 20x110mm fork axle, orher than that it should also take a bit of a beating around forest trails.
Massive effort to build it. Immediately destroyed it. Fixed it. Destroyed it again 😂
You can probably predict what's going to happen in part 2. The swingarm is already bending.
Would be fun to get all the links of stuff you used, would be a fun DIY project
@@FluePeak
It would be cheaper to just buy one on Alibaba, but I understand how fun it is to build one so I’ll probably do a rundown of all the parts in the second video. What I bought vs what I would buy now knowing what I know now, stuff like that.
hi....looks like you need a thicker fork...and be sure to check metal tempering....the more it gets super hot and cooled quickly ...the more brittle and harder the metal...practice makes perfect...keep up the good work...
Does it come with an ejector seat
@@CreampuffgameZ yeah when the front forks snap you fly off
Hey budd where do you gitna that ebike frame
Amazon or AliExpress has them, but only get this one if you are riding on the street.
Remember me when your famouss
@@Tm_Energy I will don’t worry
Nice build! Exclusing the battery, ariund how much would the build cost for someone else trying it?
@@JasonNosajasoNosaj with battery it was about $3100, so maybe $2500 without it?
I think your caliper mount is on backwards for the rear brake.
@@Tyblerone it’s on the right way, the reason it didn’t line up is that I moved the wheel back to tighten the chain.
Great video also what's the frame kit
@@SpeedTaco66
It’s a frame made of metal? Did you mean to ask where I bought it? It was on Amazon but it’s not being sold anymore, you can find them on AliExpress.
@@Calthecool oh ok thanks
Next time use acetone, it dissolves the glue from thr cells. Place the cells standing up in a 1cm bath off acetone and after 1 houre the glue will just fall off.
@@markuslimseth8426 there probably won’t be a next time, but I’ll keep that in mind.
@@Calthecool haha mee to. its so boring and tedious
Very cool! But why does it sound so rough when spinning on a stand? Rear disc alignment maybe ?
@@PraetorAirsoft yes it isn’t lined up quite right
Great! How much is it approximately?
$3100, but take that with a grain of salt. I will do a in depth breakdown in part 2 of what and what not to buy.
As much as this is an awesome video and cool project, homemade battery packs are a big red flag to me. Without a proper bms and safety testings, it's basically a fire waiting to happen. Be safe man!
It's got a BMS and it's all wired correctly. I think the cheap Chinese battery packs assembled by actual children are the bigger issue, and the people who buy those also tend to not take care of them. I only run this pack at max power for
@Calthecool personally I wouldn't use a bms that wasn't specifically designed for a lithium ion pack. Is the bms certified? Has it gone through proper testing?
I have seen 18650 fires myself and they are quite scary. They release toxic gases, fire, and spread fast.
Uncertified, untested Chinese batteries are also a huge problem. That's why laws are being passed requiring certification. That doesn't mean homemade battery modules aren't. Additionally it's not during use that scares me most, it's during charging. Does that bms monitor temps in addition to just voltage?
Maybe its out of an abundance of caution, or from what I have seen with li-ion and 18650 packs, but At the end of the day I wouldn't risk my safety or my families with an untested uncertified battery pack.
@@yrguitar1 it’s made for lithium ion packs, and it has temperature sensors and a Bluetooth app that lets you check individual parallel group voltages. For the first charge I was constantly checking the voltage of every parallel group.
great vid but you never said what front forked you used , neither what rear shock you bought. thanks
@@TheMatixen I’ll go over them in the next video, obviously you shouldn’t buy them.