Are Cat Filters Worth The Money? Are Cat Filters Better?

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  • Are Cat filters better than their competitors and worth the extra money that they cost?
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  • @bundysgarage
    @bundysgarage Před 5 lety +108

    "Your engine is yellow, you should have a yellow filter!" Great point, CAT is a great engine!

  • @ed81ny
    @ed81ny Před 5 lety +66

    This is such common sense. Why don't people get it? Lol ... tripping over dollars for nickles. Nice video.

    • @mecalpsha4473
      @mecalpsha4473 Před 5 lety +4

      Same people will have a TOOTH ACHE and say I will just get it pulled or buy a China made oil filter from the 'discount' store saving 3 cents thinking they are 'saving money'....

  • @tylerbrown4615
    @tylerbrown4615 Před 4 lety +2

    I am a new diesel tech and I watch your videos all the time. Good stuff man. Helped me tons and it's very knowledgeable

  • @Watchyn_Yarwood
    @Watchyn_Yarwood Před 5 lety +8

    Great information! I did not have any idea about the construction of a CAT filer. Thanks!

  • @shakenbake3107
    @shakenbake3107 Před 5 lety +10

    I worked for a construction company and every piece of equipment had cat filters on them. The shop foreman loved cat filters

  • @alexj1773
    @alexj1773 Před 5 lety +8

    Hey!! My friend long time no see you lol. Good to see you again. In my opinion if my truck work hard without giving me any problems at all and feed my family The least I can do is to treat him the same way by Putting good quality parts, excellent maintenance and a nice wash every week; that way he can be like me super happy when I get my heavy duty pay check 💰 every week because of him.

  • @chrismoorhouse9278
    @chrismoorhouse9278 Před 5 lety +2

    Love ya vids mate. Keep them coming 👍🏻

  • @rogerkirkpatrick9057
    @rogerkirkpatrick9057 Před 2 lety +20

    Very good points, I developed an adapter to put a cat filter on a Duramax, and Ford. After many conversations with a cat representative from the filter factory. The reason Cat started to make their own filters was that metal was being left in the filters after manufacture. When you stamp 1000’s of parts the tooling picks up a magnetic properties and transfers that to the parts, they in turn pick up metal fragments and are in the filters during the assembly process. So the filters we’re putting those particles into the engine. In addition to the spiral roving and the acrylic beads the filter is glued to the aluminum threaded insert and then the outer shell is rolled onto the aluminum threaded insert. So no hard metals could enter the oil system from the filter from stamping process. “Longer life through better filtration”.

    • @jeremybroderick9465
      @jeremybroderick9465 Před rokem +1

      Use the Donaldson Blue filter on your duramax it is the best

    • @fredg8199
      @fredg8199 Před rokem

      Tell me what ford engine.
      Just curious, want to run cat filters in my 6.0.

    • @rogerkirkpatrick9057
      @rogerkirkpatrick9057 Před rokem

      It was designed for the ford 6.7.

    • @fredg8199
      @fredg8199 Před rokem

      @@rogerkirkpatrick9057 You interested in selling one? Have an ebay account or something?

    • @rogerkirkpatrick9057
      @rogerkirkpatrick9057 Před rokem +1

      @@fredg8199 For the 6.7? I never made anything for the 6.0.

  • @Dan_C604
    @Dan_C604 Před 5 lety +1

    Just found your channel. Although I watched this from the marine perspective, this is really good info. Thanks!

  • @ToyotatechDK
    @ToyotatechDK Před rokem +6

    Nearly all CAT filters are made by Donaldson. You should know this ☺️. It´s the Donaldson Endurance serie. I have all the cutaway CAT filters from my time at a Donaldson dealership. By the way, that Donaldson P551311 is a fuel filter

    • @paulmadporra
      @paulmadporra Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yip ........ Yellow equipment manufacturers do not make their own filters. In fact, OE's do not make any (or majority) of any parts on any machines they sell. It's all bought out, most of it. So they would need a Filter manufacturer to make their filters. Look ta the filter manufacturers in this video, and as @toyotatechDK said, you might find one of them makes many of the filters for most OE's ...

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 Před 10 měsíci

      I never remember the order as the other one I use/have is the P-551000 I think it is, one is water /fuel / the other is fuel filter. which every way they run .

  • @saywhatnow2
    @saywhatnow2 Před 5 lety +123

    I use only cat filters and Amsoil full synthetic in my 3406e and c15.
    Oil and filters are cheap, engine is not.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +6

      Full synthetic seems unnecessary, only real reason to use it is extended intervals and as you say oil is cheap so no reason to extend the interval. I run regular old rotella on 20k mile drains and the cat oil samples say all is well and the oil is still in excellent condition.

    • @gumps1986
      @gumps1986 Před 5 lety +4

      I run Amsoil with their filter for the engine oil. Oil analysis every 10,000 miles. Have a little over 40,000 on my current oil. Cat fuel filters.

    • @clydeacor1911
      @clydeacor1911 Před 5 lety +17

      @@gumps1986 It's good that you're getting your oil analysis every 10K my friend bought a new truck and was working in the oilfield and was running Amsoil and Amsoil filters and changed it religiously every 20,000 miles and his engine blew up at 78,000 miles due to oil contamination according to the dealer so warranty wouldn't cover the engine. Just because Amsoil says that their oil keeps its viscosity for so many miles doesn't mean that it can stay clean for that long. The main reason for changing oil isn't because its worn out you change it because of the contaminants in it which also plugs up filters. I change my oil at 10,000 to 12,000 miles even if I run a high dollar oil.

    • @zeeshan_engineering_services
      @zeeshan_engineering_services Před 5 lety

      Well on Caterpillar 3406 all models, C15, ,C16, C18 and 3456E I would recommend CAT 1R-0716 oil filter if oil is normal and wanted to change early.
      For good synthetic long drain engine lube oil Caterpillar advanced fuel and oil filters are available like wise lube oil filters 1R-1808 and 275-2604.
      Fuel filter 1R-1712 or advanced high efficiency use 1R-0749 along recommend fuel water separator elements and primary filters respectively.

    • @sheilamclaughlin963
      @sheilamclaughlin963 Před 4 lety

      We use to change every 10,000 with rotella oil because we were in the dirt twice as much as pavement

  • @chefmatthammerschmidt8408

    Sir I would love to stay this and I state it honestly and happily. I find a large amount of useful information and value in every single one of your videos with very few exceptions. Tell buddy and Piper that a Country Boy loves them.

  • @0c0cpcpcpck48
    @0c0cpcpcpck48 Před 5 lety +5

    You think this vid would be boring but he keeps it entertaining

  • @d.rogers8192
    @d.rogers8192 Před 5 lety +8

    I recently had my service done at the T/A in Indiana and there was no up charge on the cat filters

  • @victormcox
    @victormcox Před 5 lety +1

    You have a convert! I have a couple of sets of filters in stock but now I'm afraid to use them. In times past I've used Baldwin filters on a 6NZ. So far no "known" oil or fuel issues, but like Mr Frank in this thread has said, "don't trip over dollars to pick up a nickel!!" Thanks for your dedication to keep us informed.

  • @John5ive
    @John5ive Před 4 lety +9

    Mr Ape, can you do a video on bypass filtration systems? I'm driving myself nuts trying to decide whether to install one or not. Of course there are videos out there but they are from the makers of the systems so of course they are great and worth it. You have a good perspective and don't "sell" anything you explain the merits of something from a fairly neutral position and based upon your experience. Thanks for your channel. Powerstroke owner here. It's not a Cat but it's still a diesel!

    • @ericwiltz6584
      @ericwiltz6584 Před rokem

      Did you go with a bypass system, which one and what engine? I have a Duramax with 100K and am looking at a bypass system: Parker, Insane, probably not Amsoil.

  • @danielhomant2832
    @danielhomant2832 Před 5 lety +10

    This video should actually be a two part, with this video being "Are Cat filters built better?" and the second video focusing on filtering and flow rate.
    Solid construction is all well and good, but filtering quality is just as important. If two filters are equally built, the one with the better filtering ability wins.
    Time for the followup video! Filtering and flow rate comparisons.

    • @Jack-qn4vt
      @Jack-qn4vt Před 3 lety +2

      You do it

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      @bigtruxz Před 2 lety

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  • @ShainAndrews
    @ShainAndrews Před 5 lety +36

    Not even a question. Never seen any issues with Donaldson until this video, but CAT first unless you can't get your mitts on one. And for goodness sake change the damn things! Oil, grease & filters are far cheaper than fixing the things they protect.

  • @clydeacor1911
    @clydeacor1911 Před 5 lety +20

    It's funny If you go to my Cat dealer here a Cat filter is $34 if you go down the street to Kenworth the same Cat filter is $18.

    • @patryk2497
      @patryk2497 Před 5 lety

      Clyde Acor lol same thing with my Detroit, Donaldson filter 20 bucks a piece and original Detroit oil filter 15. Needless to say I just go with original and not just because of the price either

    • @clydeacor1911
      @clydeacor1911 Před 5 lety +6

      @@patryk2497 Does Donaldson make the filters for Detroit? But in my situation you would think that Caterpillar would be cheaper than Kenworth for a Caterpillar brand filter. I asked my Caterpillar dealer about it and asked why they were twice as expensive as Kenworth for their own brand and the service manager told me it's because Kenworth orders and sells more filters and I said that may be true but they get them from you! Lol...

    • @MrBigR928
      @MrBigR928 Před 4 lety

      Absolutely true...lol... I get all my Cat filters from Kenworth! Kenworth just picked up the "Majestic" oil line also and its selling like crazy. I haven't used the engine oil because i use "Mystic" 15w 50 synthetic blend with a "MotorCote" chaser and they only have 15w 40. But i am using the "Majestic" full synthetic gear and transmission oils and they're great! And the prices are nice on the 5 gallon buckets of the stuff, like 90 sump'em bucks plus tax out the door👍

    • @wormwoodfive398
      @wormwoodfive398 Před 4 lety

      I get my Cat filters from non dealer, truck supply ... save $$$ ... actually I only get part from dealer that I can't get from my other sources

    • @clydeacor1911
      @clydeacor1911 Před 4 lety

      @@wormwoodfive398 exactly.

  • @84gssteve
    @84gssteve Před 5 lety +1

    At my rental yard, for our big ticket items like transports, rollbacks and Cat/JD full size equipment I always run the OEM filters. We don't have dozens and dozens of them, so the minimal added cost is outweighed by the peace of mind. For our hundreds of smaller machines, from skid steers to lawn/garden equipment I have run Wix/Napa (same product) filters for 25 years with zero lubrication related failures. Also, I can get them delivered from almost any parts house, which is convenient. If you are proactive and service your machines regularly, then the likelihood of a collapsed or plugged filter is fairly remote, so the premium attributes of an OEM filter become less of a necessity weighed against the cost of many hundreds of filters per year.

  • @randyschock7374
    @randyschock7374 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for a very informative video. Much Appreciated.

  • @jeffsnider3588
    @jeffsnider3588 Před 5 lety +1

    What are your thoughts on the add on or factory equipped centrifugal filters? I bought a used truck that has an aftermarket - T. G. Hudgins centrifugal filter added, this is in addition to the standard spin on paper filters. The oil does seem to stay cleaner and the centrifuge has black carbon looking material on the inside wall when cleaned. They seem to work in my opinion.

  • @Galloway54499
    @Galloway54499 Před 5 lety +4

    I didn’t even watch the video but I will tell you, I worked at Donaldson’s plant in Stevens point Wisconsin, they make almost every filter, including cat, so your buying a over priced Donaldson filter if you buy a cat filter, yes they are a tad bit different in number of pleats but same shit that’s it

  • @hiby9105
    @hiby9105 Před 5 lety

    nice video! i always run cat oil filter on my b model, was using cat fuels also but in colder weather they seemed to start to plug , i now use fleetguard for both fuels and cat oil only, what do u think? should i still be using cat for fuel filters on a mechanical?

  • @ericwiltz6584
    @ericwiltz6584 Před rokem

    My first viewing of your program was the Bypass review, this is my second. THANK YOU!

    • @ericwiltz6584
      @ericwiltz6584 Před rokem

      Measure thickness with the other end of your vermeers and you may see several thou difference.

  • @mcgruffmo
    @mcgruffmo Před 4 lety +1

    Great video man!

  • @wizard1800
    @wizard1800 Před 5 lety +6

    Great video! I run oem filters on my cummins powered pickup. I put a cat fuel filter on my deere powered genset. Filters are not the place i want to save.

  • @Daddypants11
    @Daddypants11 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you. I'll remember this 🤘

  • @kevinb158
    @kevinb158 Před 5 lety +13

    I'm with you on this one stay with the manufacturer

    • @kennycranston7881
      @kennycranston7881 Před 4 lety

      here is where manufacture is NOT always best most manufactures use nominal micron rating and Cat uses absolute micron rating. Understanding the difference is like this. 2micron fuel filter for example nominal mean it will filter like 85% down to 2 micron meaning you can get bigger then 2 micron thru the filter a 2 micron absolute means nothing bigger then 2 micron will get thru

  • @hthouston3924
    @hthouston3924 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, what about diesel fuel # 1 or 2 what is better for engine?

  • @nealk6387
    @nealk6387 Před 5 lety

    We use fleetguard filters. But this video makes since. Thanks josh.

  • @Capitanvolume
    @Capitanvolume Před 5 lety +27

    Anything but Fram is my general rule. I use Wix filters on light duty and fleet guards on HD. I have 18000hrs on my engine and runs like new.

    • @michaeldunagan8268
      @michaeldunagan8268 Před 2 lety +1

      Ya-
      Me too!
      Project Farm channel showed that Fram is a SCAM for 40 years of my life purchases.
      I WIX it or NAPA GOLD it for my 1999 Toyota Solara. Nothing but Fleetgaurd for my Cummins N14 too.
      But if I had a Caterpillar, I would do what Josh strongly thinks Cat owners should do and I would use a Car filter.

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Funnily fram makes better filters than wix

  • @MichaelViewing
    @MichaelViewing Před 5 lety +1

    Got a question. I have a 97 LMTV with a 3116. I could purchase a hydraulic powered A/C compressor or buy the brackets to add ta compressor off one of the belts like normal. Which would you recommend?

  • @str8flexin411
    @str8flexin411 Před 3 lety

    Enjoyed the vid and wanted to know where you got your hat?

  • @tannerb55
    @tannerb55 Před 3 lety

    I started running cat filters on my trucks over fleetgaurd from this info alone thanks josh. But what oil do you recommend and is synthetic worth it. I’d like your input, thank you for all the videos.

  • @mrturner69
    @mrturner69 Před 5 lety +4

    i always try to use OEM filters where possible, i think on smaller equipment its not as critical (ie small engines) but larger engines and especially diesel engines i would always try to. the one aftermarket filters i have faith in at least for automotive is the hastings brand

  • @zachwilson7034
    @zachwilson7034 Před 5 lety

    Great video I learned this lesson the hard way. I tried the cheaper filters on my C15 and it shut my truck down and I want do that again.

  • @ohiopsdfordman
    @ohiopsdfordman Před 3 lety +2

    A lot of FleetGaurd "Cummins" is the same as CAT with the Nylon and we have never ever had a failure ever! Use the Filter that comes on your engine from the factory!!! It will never fail you!

  • @AdriftAndAtPeace323
    @AdriftAndAtPeace323 Před 5 lety +4

    One thing to touch on with the cases back in my lube tech days at TA I used to have to fight with a lot of overtightened filters and while almost all the filters would collapse or twist in an attempt to get them loose, cats tended to dent where the metal portion of my strap wrench rested on the filter but otherwise stayed uniform to its original shape

    • @m1st3rxmayh3m3
      @m1st3rxmayh3m3 Před 4 lety

      Shit I work at TA and motherfuckers tighten the shit out of filters

    • @courtneypeters1741
      @courtneypeters1741 Před rokem

      Hand tight and a 1/4 turn boys is all she needs

  • @dennyskerb4992
    @dennyskerb4992 Před 4 lety +2

    The facts are that Cat and Donaldson are 50/50 owners in a joint venture company called AFSI ( Advanced Filtration Sales Inc in Illinois)

  • @DavidLGood
    @DavidLGood Před 5 lety +1

    Another excellent video!

  • @jesselacayo3486
    @jesselacayo3486 Před 5 lety

    The school i went to for study of truck/bus Diesel mechanics uses fram filters for engine oil, fuel and coolant. The school has 2 trucks with cat engines fitted with twin turbos in it.

  • @Slavs30
    @Slavs30 Před 5 lety +1

    Is it safe to use ATF in diesel or what is better solution to help keep fuel system and injectors lubed and clean.

  • @slayer77000
    @slayer77000 Před 2 lety

    Very informative And I was looking into changing the whole filter system. A conversation kit to davco 382.

  • @gustavohonzofo
    @gustavohonzofo Před 5 lety

    What is your opinion on smaller displacement deisel engines like the 2.8 duramax or the 3.0 power stroke that they put in half ton and quarter ton trucks

  • @JasonKeranen
    @JasonKeranen Před 3 lety +2

    Typical reasons other than product defects: There are many possible reasons for the bunching..
    *Sticky surfaces caused by cold, highly viscous oil
    *Oil contaminated by excessive condensation, coolant or oxidation
    *Neglect - extended oil drain and filter change intervals
    *Carbon grit that temporarily jams a valve
    *Sudden acceleration of the engine with any of the above conditions.
    Source: Machinery Lubrication Magazine

  • @RyanandBensDiecast26
    @RyanandBensDiecast26 Před 5 lety +3

    Josh, I would like to know more about your background in power generation. I am in EPG tech at my local dealership. The reason for me moving from trucks to EPG is the fact that our dealership became an international dealership and no longer had a specifically cat truck shop. I was wanting to know if the same thing is happening in your dealership. Thanks.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety

      One of the cat dealers near me still runs a separate truck shop, but it was about a year ago they got rid of the truck side management and combined it with the ag.

  • @aerialrescuesolutions3277

    Great video. If you change the filter more often it wouldn't collapse like that? or no... It just seems like those distorted pleats are from neglect? However I see your point about the construction differences , JIM

  • @joefalmo5528
    @joefalmo5528 Před 5 lety +1

    cat filters are they like the cat liner kits with the used pistons ?

  • @my2cents616
    @my2cents616 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video,question,wondering how many miles or hours are on those filters that are collapsed?

    • @my2cents616
      @my2cents616 Před 5 lety +1

      I change my 3406B every 12,000 or 13,000 miles,and I use cat filter sometimes and usually the Baldwin,or Donaldson. Wow,but now I am using strictly cat from here on out. I have ran the same truck and motor since 1996 it was overhauled in 2006, and I just did rods, and mains, last year,and installled a used ,good as new cam,and same injectors since 2006, I guess I would never known if I had a collapsed filter ever,all these years.

  • @JalopyTechnology
    @JalopyTechnology Před 4 lety

    Always ran CAT filters after I got a tour of their filter manufacturing factory in IL...made a believer out of me.

    • @michaelreardon7667
      @michaelreardon7667 Před 3 lety +1

      Well, they don't make them there anymore, the last 3 sets of Cat filters I bought were made in The Czech Republic. Hope they are made to the same specs.

  • @cornillious1
    @cornillious1 Před 5 lety

    I’ve always used rotella T6 but I’m starting to second guess it with the ck4 switch. How do you feel about the drop in phosphorus? What oil do you recommend?

  • @terry2can914
    @terry2can914 Před 4 lety

    Man you done another top review and i agree with you 1005

  • @Waterboy831
    @Waterboy831 Před 5 lety +1

    Well stated, Josh!

  • @chrismack3896
    @chrismack3896 Před 4 lety

    I'm having to change my oil filters around 8k miles due to low oil pressure. Soon as i change the filter or the oil and filter the pressure goes back up. Do you recognize this problem?

  • @GREGreg1
    @GREGreg1 Před 5 lety

    Hi how can I get you to do my valve adjustment on my c15 cat ? Please let me know.

  • @satpalsidhu1236
    @satpalsidhu1236 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi thanks for this video. I got Mack Eng which filter should i use ?

    • @mattberg6785
      @mattberg6785 Před 5 lety +1

      Simple, a meow meow for a woof woof

  • @robert7639
    @robert7639 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes they are worth it in the marine industry I’ve had sea trials and they put like a Baldwin filter secondary and it doesn’t have enough return holes a cat filter has 11 return holes and the aftermarket ones have like eight or nine return holes and that’s taking 50 RPM off the top end at full throttle. And you can get the filters white too.

  • @bayview94124
    @bayview94124 Před 5 lety +15

    Cat filters are worth every penny. Nice hat.

    • @davidroberts2404
      @davidroberts2404 Před 3 lety

      Crazy thing is cat doesn't make the filters. Iirc Donaldson makes them for caterpillar

  • @jimmystuckey1412
    @jimmystuckey1412 Před 5 lety +5

    Cat filters in our area are competitively priced or sometimes cheaper

  • @naydev91
    @naydev91 Před 5 lety

    I have a fuel pressure gauge and I used a white fuel filter (not sure what brand) and I noticed after just 7-8k miles the fuel pressure started to build up. I've never had that problem when using cat filters.

    • @edwardcarberry1095
      @edwardcarberry1095 Před 10 měsíci

      My fuel pressures/back pressures are minimal as I have not noticed any of such!

  • @briannecerasi437
    @briannecerasi437 Před 5 lety

    I'm having trouble starting. I have a 2006 winnebago on a freightliner chassis with a cat c7 after sitting for three days it takes 2mins of crank time to start Ive replaced fuel filter, the check valve behind the head, I've had it at two different freightliner dealers they have checked everything. When it starts it runs fine. any help or ideas would be awesome.

  • @ATTILATRUX
    @ATTILATRUX Před 4 lety

    HELLO JOSH!
    I have been learning from you for years! I really appreciate your knowledge and effort to share what tou know.
    I have a Lil Pete 330 (2001) with a
    3126 8YL 230 HP ( Cat would not turn it up, even it is a personal not for hire or RV hauler.)
    Got half a mill miles and runs great!
    Problem 1)
    Need efficient retarding power. Is there Jacobs Compression Brake for this??
    (I only saw Exhaust Brake ie; Butterfly valve, that part do exist, saw one for $ 800.)
    Or : could I adopt a Cat Brakesaver from an onder 3406 perhaps?? With a bellhousing adapter n bigger transmission?
    This would give me far more retarding power.
    Yes the most beauutiful color in the world is Cat Yellow!!!
    Is there a better place to ask questions??
    Thank you in advance!

  • @HTSS8
    @HTSS8 Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah, because the color of the casing impacts and absolutely determines filtration performance. Yeah

  • @Robasteerjock51
    @Robasteerjock51 Před 5 lety

    Always instructive....why would anyone compromise? Nothing but yellow on my acert C15

  • @compactc9
    @compactc9 Před 5 lety

    I also think that nylon structure in the middle of the filter has more rigidity than the thin sheet metal the others are made of.

  • @henryrgvfresh4443
    @henryrgvfresh4443 Před 5 lety

    would a bad oil filter reduce oil preassure im having this issue on my c15 6nz when i shift onto my last gear doing 70mph my Rpm drops down to around 1400 rpm and oil preassure goes under 40psi and i start getting my red check engine light i drop one gear pick up rpms to 1700 psi goes up and engine light goes off or even i let go off the throttle jakes goes on and picks up oil psi

  • @truckingswe
    @truckingswe Před 5 lety

    I havet experienced problems whit Baldwin filters that they crack att the topp were the steel off the tube is edge around the topp flat steel. Fleet Guard filters are good aftermarket filters

  • @toxhawk
    @toxhawk Před 4 lety

    On a 3406B what would you recommend for filter #'S in cold weather environment right now I have a 1r-0749 and a 256-8753 but I seem to have issues with my water separator gelling up.

  • @dhillonsavee
    @dhillonsavee Před 5 lety

    Is there is a way to recognize between original Cat filter and knock offs ,

  • @adamkolm6711
    @adamkolm6711 Před 4 lety

    I gotta 1968 cat 955 k traxcavator I all ways run all cat filters in it no matter what now in my filter I found some brass and steel shavings small ones in engine do I need a rebuild you think.

  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 Před 2 lety +1

    I am back!
    I do totally agree with this video. I broser-search a engine oil filter for a Caterpillar C15 both Cat brand and Donaldson. The price difference in April, 2022, is $8.09 to $15.00.
    Remanufactured prices for third-party companies on the internet for a Caterpillar C15 are $16,500 to $24,500. I will use $18,500.
    Let us do some Math
    $18,500 remain engine ÷ $15.00 difference in filter listed prices ≈ 1,233. One needs to purchase this many Donaldson filter before said filter causes and engine failure in order to break even.
    If change the filter quarterly:
    1,233 ÷ 4 ≈ 308 years before a potential payoff in savings occurs.
    Madness!
    Unless the engine is close to dying, there is no reason to skimp financially on a non-ORM engine oil filter.

  • @lb7wade518
    @lb7wade518 Před 3 lety

    What’s your thoughts on cat filters on other engines like duramax l5p

  • @JamesSmith-jq2jc
    @JamesSmith-jq2jc Před 3 lety

    I've worked for people who were terrible and cheap on maintenance, and others that didn't mind spending money and getting premium parts. You do get what you pay for. I even get the pick up sized oil filter for my car, they're usually a little longer, been doing that for a long time.

  • @d1bigshifter737
    @d1bigshifter737 Před 5 lety +1

    Did a tour at Baldwin filters along the way there was an area that was curtained off .looked in side there were Yellow filters being made . Asked the tour guide and he acknowledge the fact that they make Cat filters along with several other manufacturers. To there specs they are they largest filter manufacturers as of 2006 things may have changed

    • @davidroberts2404
      @davidroberts2404 Před 5 lety

      Because Baldwin makes cat filters. Baldwin makes carquest premium filters also.

  • @randallrogers8183
    @randallrogers8183 Před 4 lety

    You're smart. Thanks.

  • @uprednecked
    @uprednecked Před 5 lety +2

    i agree man! i work at an international/cummins shop and seen way too many filter failures! which is why we use international and fleetguard filters which are designed for those engines! Cheers!

    • @92powerdiesel61
      @92powerdiesel61 Před 5 lety

      How important is this on the 6bta? I have one and got wix filters because they are usually good.

    • @uprednecked
      @uprednecked Před 5 lety

      @@92powerdiesel61 I wouldnt! wix are a good aftermarket but why would you run one if you can get your hands on a fleetguard? i would only run one if i couldnt get my hands on a fleetguard but its up to you!

    • @92powerdiesel61
      @92powerdiesel61 Před 5 lety

      @@uprednecked Ok, I've just gotta figure out how to get them. But after seeing this and your recommendation as a cummins tech I won't run anything else.
      Also do you like being a diesel tech? I love machines and don't really know what path I'm going to go down.

    • @uprednecked
      @uprednecked Před 5 lety

      @@92powerdiesel61 you should be able to get them though any cummins dealer or international/KW or even freightliner dealer! i started as a auto mechanic and was tired of the pay so i switched over to medium/heavy duty and the pay is way better for me! but if you like cars nothing wrong with that! Cheers!

    • @davidroberts2404
      @davidroberts2404 Před 5 lety +1

      Fleetpride and truckpro carry fleetguard filters as well as donaldson.

  • @07lbzdmax77
    @07lbzdmax77 Před 5 lety

    Is that a full flow amsoil oil filter or a bypass oil filter

  • @6.4DieselDoctor
    @6.4DieselDoctor Před 5 lety

    Donaldson blue series has been the best I’ve ever used. And the fact that Donaldson makes cat filters

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +1

      Doesn't matter who makes it if they make it to different specs.

  • @yangp2k
    @yangp2k Před 5 lety

    I have a chevy duramax and there are companies that make adapters to upgrade to cat filters for both fuel and oil filters. Would you recommend upgrading to use cat filters for light duty diesel engines?

    • @mikenobbe1135
      @mikenobbe1135 Před 5 lety +1

      yes they do just changed my 2002 lb7 to cat fuel n oil filters make sure to get the good adapter for fuel filter or u will have fuel leaking while changing do your research r1-1750 fuel filter plus adapter 1807 oil filter plus adapter best move on durmax

  • @ronpatava
    @ronpatava Před 5 lety +5

    You should do a video on if Lucas actually is worth using with Evey oil change, maybe do an oil sample on break downs of common oil brands such as Mobil, Chevron, Northland etc. We run Northland and 1 gallon of Lucas, fuel filters and airs as needed every 10k miles.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +1

      Lucas does exactly what it claims, it's just thicker oil. Far cheaper to just run a thicker oil in the first place then to add Lucas. The thing Lucas does not advertise is running thicker oil also reduces fuel economy, recommend viscosity is the balance for appropriate protection without unnecessary losses as determined by the manufacturer.

    • @herygarcia6193
      @herygarcia6193 Před 5 lety +3

      On every test I've seen on you tube that includes Lucas it's always last, but if you've never seen those videos go to a Y/T subscriber Project Farm and see for your own. there's a lot more posted by other subscriber where Lucas is included.

    • @JT-qf4it
      @JT-qf4it Před 4 lety

      If you have to add Lucas to your oil, maybe you should change to a better oil.

    • @rowmacg
      @rowmacg Před 4 lety

      I just switched from Shell Rotella T6 5w40, I was very happy with it’s performance, but I’ve heard Schaeffer’s is much better. I just had my oil changed to Schaeffer’s Supreme 9000 5w40 two weeks ago and the tech said the oil felt super slippery when he was putting a bead of oil on the oil filter gasket. He said he’s never felt an oil that slick before! The tech making that comment makes me feel like I made a good choice. I encourage people to research this oil, we all would like our engines to last as long as possible and get a little better fuel economy along the way!

  • @KeepingitAnalog
    @KeepingitAnalog Před 4 lety

    Does CAT make filters to fit Cummins X15's?

  • @cliffmorgan31
    @cliffmorgan31 Před rokem

    I just changed my 2 FASS tall filters on my Cumins Dodge. The front of the front filter had taken a couple hits that slightly dented the filter, and the rear of the back filter also had 2 minor dents… stronger steel exterior sounds better to me now!
    Btw, I do forest service roads getting firewood and a fair bit of gravel roads, and the FASS tall filters hang slightly lower than the surrounding metal. The back of the back filter dents did surprise me.
    I think I’m converted to be a Cat filter believer.

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 Před 10 měsíci

      You have to look at the filters ratings cats aren't always even a decent option for some things.

  • @daviddroescher
    @daviddroescher Před 5 lety +2

    Could the collapsed filters be pointing to a biger problem? A failed delta Pressure valve?
    My thinking
    Filth could only collapse an oil filter if the pressure differential valve failed... it is designed to bipass at 9psig(cummins B model spec I had a valve fail and split the oill cooler) to prevent dry starts on those cold winters when the plug is not used. Yes it'll start but should not be run cold. AKA excessively cold oil =unfiltered oil till the viscosity drops to a 9psi delta (more dirty/used up filter =higher temperatures before the filter is back in the loop)

    • @patw52pb1
      @patw52pb1 Před 5 lety

      The cause of the media collapse is most likely a malfunctioning bypass valve that allowed a high differential pressure across the media membrane.
      Also most likely to occur with moderate to high engine RPM at startup continuing until warmup with high viscosity lube oil on an unheated engine.

  • @jrl5626
    @jrl5626 Před 3 lety +2

    Majority of Cat filters are made by the other leading manufactures. The canisters are made that way for other reasons and it's not a cost savings reason. Also, who knows how long the examples went on their oil changes.

  • @hemantgautam6678
    @hemantgautam6678 Před 4 lety

    I have cat c7 engine how to find out which cat filter I have to use(it’s old truck and I don’t have owner manual.
    Thanks

    • @ATTILATRUX
      @ATTILATRUX Před 4 lety

      Look up serial # call any Cat dealer, they will look it up!

  • @JDA77
    @JDA77 Před 3 lety

    Would I notice a big difference going from 190hp 3126 to a C7 330hp in my f650

  • @neb4x4
    @neb4x4 Před 5 lety +1

    We use to use CAT filters on every one of our CAT engines in equipment at my work. About 6 years ago we had one fail, at the seam (flaw). It was colder outside, me and a co-worker went and started all the equipment before operators showed up... (about 30 machines, not all CAT engines, JD and Cummings mix with CAT). About a hour later we noticed one machine not making "smoke" walked over to it and it wasn't running. Upon further inspection it lost all the oil. We put maybe 3 gallons in it or so. Started it up and noticed it was coming out of the seam where the base is "welded" to the can. The Murphy shut the engine down. But not soon enough, it scattered the CAT-Perkins 6.6 before our eyes. We took this to cat, the repowered engine only had 500 hrs before the scatter, CAT took about 4 months, but they split the new engine cost with us. Which was nice of them I guess, however the company I work for doesn't care about $$$, just downtime. (I work for a really big railroad). However I noticed about a year ago, we are no longer running CAT filters.... IDK... 🤷‍♂️

    • @neb4x4
      @neb4x4 Před 5 lety

      I know shit happens, and I'm not talking bad about cat filters. Just saying, maybe we weren't the only crew on our RR to have this happen...?

  • @deankruse8751
    @deankruse8751 Před 5 lety

    What causes a filter to collapse inside? I had this happen 3 times on my pick up and then it lost all oil pressure and spun a rod bearing. I have no idea what could cause it to collapse

    • @johngillman627
      @johngillman627 Před 4 lety

      Restriction from becoming blocked with debris increases pressure and causes collapse, dirt entry or extended change intervals.

  • @stevewaclo167
    @stevewaclo167 Před 4 lety

    Have you dissected any Racor filters?

  • @splitsecondmagician
    @splitsecondmagician Před 5 lety

    What's your thoughts on WiX filters?

  • @adamkolm6711
    @adamkolm6711 Před 4 lety

    I was running cat filters in my old 1984 235 excavator I gotta bunch of Sandy rusty stuff in my fuel so I temporally switched over to wiz after I went through five cat filters I had a mechanic come out we drained all the fuel I put a new fuel in and a new fuel lift pump new lines after about 5 hours my clean out fuel filter packed solid with sand I just cleanen them out I run cat in the clean out I have one more wiz filter left should I switch back to cat soon

  • @NotHarry-er3wg
    @NotHarry-er3wg Před 5 lety +8

    Well it makes sense. I have learned that OEM filters are built specifically for the application for OEM products. Especially Heavy Duty equipment Yea 3 thousands more meat is huge especially if the metal is hardened. Awesome descriptive as usual Josh. Thanks Man!

  • @Roberto7474001
    @Roberto7474001 Před 5 lety +1

    Anyone know if i can run cat filters on my new holland tc55da tractor?

  • @pvcarmon1
    @pvcarmon1 Před 4 lety

    Omg I was inspecting a cheap filter the other day and found a loose burr on the threads from the machine process. Couldn't believe it. Inspect your filters no matter what brand they are. CAT looks stout didn't care for the, "Nylon" center afraid it could melt during an overheat condition. Just my opion great video thx.

  • @jaylincoombs8006
    @jaylincoombs8006 Před 5 lety +1

    Used Cat for 28 yrs, never engine failure.
    I recommend Cat filters for all, changed fuel filters same time as oil filters

    • @RJ1999x
      @RJ1999x Před 3 lety

      Been using Baldwin filters for 40+ years never had an engine, hydraulic, or transmission failure

  • @plumber77mjr
    @plumber77mjr Před 5 lety

    Did you say you put on the Donaldson at your dealership? why after this!! Great video. Thanks

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  Před 5 lety

      Our Dealership sells the Cats and the Donaldson filters.

    • @rev9fan1
      @rev9fan1 Před 5 lety +1

      Because the dealer is giving people options otherwise they would never sell filters or oil changes....doesn't mean it's right, it's up to the customer if they choose other than CAT

  • @kerrygleeson4409
    @kerrygleeson4409 Před 5 lety +4

    Always interesting Josh and your correct of cause thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺

  • @mikenobbe1135
    @mikenobbe1135 Před 5 lety

    switchad my 2002 lb7 fuel n oil filters to cat rotella synthentic 289ooo stillwaiating for results cat a no braier

  • @the379man
    @the379man Před 3 lety

    ok so i change my filters every 10k miles and oil at 20k is it still worth running a cat filter at that rate?