MatPat's Secret: The Lost Game Theory Shows

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  • čas přidán 17. 11. 2020
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    Today we'll discuss all the forgotten shows that once found a home on The Game Theorists channel.
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  • @TheGamerFromMars
    @TheGamerFromMars  Před 3 lety +334

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  • @GaijinGoombah
    @GaijinGoombah Před 3 lety +5257

    7:53 You know, you could have just asked. All these questions you couldn't find answers to about me aren't anything secretive or taboo. 😆
    I used a voice modulator because I was afraid of getting hate from people because I said nice things about cultures *cough Middle East cough* that a lot of people didn't like. I wanted to work in a character rather than myself but I didn't have a great understanding of sound design at the time. Thus the cringe. Also, working in character allows me to have some CRAZY fun with editing. Something I'm considering going back to now that I DO have an idea of how sound design works.
    I split with the Game Theorists because the difference in viewership you mentioned was goofing the algorithm and hurting myself and Mat. When the system didn't punish subsequent videos for performance, it worked. When that changed, we had to change. It wasn't anything personal, it really was just due to changes in the system.
    It's just the ever-evolving landscape of CZcams. Nothing more really. I still do what I love with enough people who like it I can still make a living. So, no worries!

  • @ehjaybee85
    @ehjaybee85 Před 3 lety +1754

    Ronnie is sorely missed, his fingerprints are all over the best parts of GT.

  • @catholiccontriversy
    @catholiccontriversy Před 3 lety +1533

    Game Lab failed because it was a CZcams red series. Like, CZcams doesn't understand that people don't want their joke of a premium service, otherwise they wouldn't ask me every time I open a video.

    • @LowReedExpert1
      @LowReedExpert1 Před 3 lety +40

      Not to mention it had already been done years ago..

    • @KyleHarrisonRedacted
      @KyleHarrisonRedacted Před 3 lety +48

      *sweats in 2yr premium annivesary**

    • @chrishansen1842
      @chrishansen1842 Před 3 lety +31

      @@KyleHarrisonRedacted I think it's fine if you have it as long as you can afford to
      I dumped a lot of money into it overtime kinda just so I could listen to music with my phone off but eventually it wasn't worth it anymore

    • @tempest8342
      @tempest8342 Před 3 lety +7

      Isn't youtube red dead?

    • @JaggedBird
      @JaggedBird Před 3 lety

      @@LowReedExpert1 ah yes, the old CZcams networks..
      Heh, boy was that a nightmare...

  • @Lucario1121
    @Lucario1121 Před 3 lety +1414

    Never knew Game Theory had such a huge cinematic universe.

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku Před 3 lety +5

      GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear mecha

    • @damb3151
      @damb3151 Před 3 lety +44

      @@AxxLAfriku what the hell

    • @mrhappycatfish87104
      @mrhappycatfish87104 Před 3 lety +3

      I would like to call it the "gtu"

    • @ayyyayay
      @ayyyayay Před 3 lety +1

      @@AxxLAfriku oh shit you comment here too
      wazzup axxl

    • @notme8652
      @notme8652 Před 3 lety +7

      @@AxxLAfriku this, this Scares me

  • @BlueScreenBoys
    @BlueScreenBoys Před 3 lety +1092

    matpat when he finally solves fnaf for the 50th time

    • @fusionsigh
      @fusionsigh Před 3 lety +74

      And that’s one of the reasons I stopped watching him

    • @williamsfamlily3561
      @williamsfamlily3561 Před 3 lety +11

      *milk

    • @wobber.
      @wobber. Před 3 lety +4

      hey your streams are cool :)

    • @tommytomthms5
      @tommytomthms5 Před 3 lety +49

      @@fusionsigh that and he got a huge ego. he seems unapproachable and is a "lol just buy a better pc" kind of attitude now. aka an asshole.

    • @Warxoth
      @Warxoth Před 3 lety +7

      @@fusionsigh preach, those videos screamed of paid ads.

  • @CloaksCosplays
    @CloaksCosplays Před 3 lety +174

    Don’t forget when he recruited Austin. Austin did content on his own channel about the real life science of a lot of things in video games, and when MattPatt hired him, Austin took over the “science” episodes of Game Theory while MP switched solely to lore.

    • @Mystic-Midnight
      @Mystic-Midnight Před 3 lety +16

      When gt got taken over by fnaf I stopped enjoying it as much as before cause I loved the STEM GT

    • @sgticecoldwater
      @sgticecoldwater Před 3 lety +3

      Is Austin still making content for GT or has he moved on?

    • @mudkipmuddip5944
      @mudkipmuddip5944 Před 3 lety +15

      @@sgticecoldwater yes, he’s still making content on GT he’s last video was 2 weeks ago

    • @winters_revolt
      @winters_revolt Před 3 lety +8

      Last I check, Game Theory still has theories based in science. Just a different type of science. And I checked pretty recently.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Před 3 lety +1

      Before that, Austin single handedly killed Shoddy Cast, I still refuse to watch his videos.

  • @vincevvn
    @vincevvn Před 3 lety +424

    I’ve honestly met Matpat before at Vidcon and he’s one of the nicest youtubers I met there. There are a lot of really shitty youtubers out there with fake personalities that do harm to the mentality of the youth but Matpat is not one of them. People just love to hate.

    • @amethyst4578
      @amethyst4578 Před 3 lety +6

      @dorothydreams oftornadoes feel the same with mrbeast

    • @itzyoboityfly6847
      @itzyoboityfly6847 Před 3 lety +6

      @@amethyst4578 because they have money?

    • @amethyst4578
      @amethyst4578 Před 3 lety +4

      @@itzyoboityfly6847 no, idk why but he just rubs me the wrong way

    • @estherharlequin2063
      @estherharlequin2063 Před 3 lety +36

      @dorothydreams oftornadoes Not liking people or their content is normal, it is just that people say that he is a terrible person because they don't like his content. Which is very wrong. I thank you for your civility

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse Před 3 lety +14

      @@amethyst4578
      Yeah that’s perfectly legitimate to dislike the show, his voice, the way he presents himself (somewhat cringy but I love it). It’s the people who say he is a terrible person, selfish, blah blah that don’t have any ground to stand on. It’s nice to know there are people who can disagree civilly about things like this still.

  • @quandex5089
    @quandex5089 Před 3 lety +735

    Let’s be honest, Deadlock was left behind after the huge backlash from the Team Fortress 2 video.

    • @patrickmatrix9963
      @patrickmatrix9963 Před 3 lety +21

      Was going to say that.

    • @BizarreWords
      @BizarreWords Před 3 lety +40

      It was god-damn dreadful!

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 Před 3 lety +16

      Why was there backlash?

    • @Rogeryoo
      @Rogeryoo Před 3 lety +188

      @@PeterGriffin11 it was mostly because of how innacurate some points for tf2 were. I don't recall the whole video, but one of the points was "overwatch has a 6v6 mode, while tf2 is 12v12, too much chaos", something along those lines, though tf2 also has a 6v6 mode. There were a bunch of other innacurate points in the video, I'm sure you could easily find someone tearing it a new one on youtube.

    • @mkscorp9152
      @mkscorp9152 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Rogeryoo ye

  • @justaspectator9762
    @justaspectator9762 Před 3 lety +291

    These shows are stuck in the matpast

  • @samlee5549
    @samlee5549 Před 3 lety +466

    God I remember all of these, this is so weird. Digressing and Sidequesting was so cool, and I wish they’d kept more of these. I never knew some of these were deleted from the channel.
    In fact, I don’t think I ever really noticed they left. This is a great video!

    • @aidanquiett668
      @aidanquiett668 Před 3 lety +24

      D&S was my favorite part of Game theory in the early days. That and their old editing style (with the chibi characters and less focus on random cutaway jokes) will always be missed by me, even if I still enjoy their stuff today

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff Před 3 lety +10

      It's sad when creators delete or hide the videos. It's still good videos giving them views. It's sad to not be able to watch these old videos no more.

    • @jstmist
      @jstmist Před 3 lety +3

      I remember first finding game theory. I used to only watch the Game Theory ones with Matpat and I would get mad when it would say they uploaded and it was someone else other than Matpat. Then I watched one. They were great and I miss them but the new game theory are still amazing and I dont think I will stop watching :) sorry for the paragraph

    • @cpMetis
      @cpMetis Před 3 lety +3

      It feels weird having been on CZcams for so long.
      I've been watching Game Theory since about a week after the Chrono Trigger episode came out.
      I started watching Etho's Minecraft LP shortly after he released episode 2.
      I started watching CZcams regularly when SeaNanners was the big dog making CoD commentaries.
      Then stuff like this comes out, or I watch a video like "hey, did you ever hear of this guy called 'Seananners'?", or most recently, "Did you know there was a big Minecraft SMP server before Hermitcraft called *Mindcrack*? Let's talk about *ancient history*!"
      Then I turn into dust.

  • @samsamthetrashcan
    @samsamthetrashcan Před 3 lety +432

    I remember when he died , It really was a shame . it really was felt all across the internet.

    • @jeremy-ws1rb
      @jeremy-ws1rb Před 3 lety +5

      Awwww ok

    • @mrcocoloco7200
      @mrcocoloco7200 Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah no shit.

    • @SaiyanGamer95
      @SaiyanGamer95 Před 3 lety +60

      Everyone was upset. Love Mat or hate him, everyone got together for Roni's passing and to support his friends.

    • @Knight_Astolfo
      @Knight_Astolfo Před 3 lety +5

      *bagpipes play a somber melody in the background*
      "The minstrel boy to the war is gone, in the ranks of death your find him"
      *The camera swings wide, catching a full-frame flurry of highlands and open sky*
      "His father's sword he hath girded on, and his wild harp slung behind him"

    • @SwoleTommyPickles
      @SwoleTommyPickles Před 3 lety +29

      @@mrcocoloco7200 what was the point of this comment? what were you hoping to achieve here?

  • @SneedsterSpeedster
    @SneedsterSpeedster Před 3 lety +481

    I used to think Matpat was a greedy money-chasing douchebag, but, the fact he sought out Ronnie's family to continue to give them the royalties nearly teared me up.

    • @ninjaface598
      @ninjaface598 Před 3 lety +17

      He still is regardless of wanting to do that

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 Před 3 lety +43

      ¿Why do you think that, though?

    • @noahmccarthy8007
      @noahmccarthy8007 Před 3 lety +146

      You do realize he's recently done a stream for the second time trying to raise money for St. Jude's hospital, right? I'm not saying he's perfect, nobody is, but it's clear he's not a bad guy by any means

    • @michaellammey2543
      @michaellammey2543 Před 3 lety +65

      @@ninjaface598 he raised 3 million dollars for Saint Judes, how is he selfish?

    • @redred7702
      @redred7702 Před 3 lety +113

      @@ninjaface598 MatPat and his wife were known in the community as genuinely good people... helping new creators and teaching them about algorithm and stuff. I’ll say they’re definitely not perfect people, and not the first people I’d point out as being CZcamsr role models, but they were never known to be selfish douchebags. And may I just say there was legit a stream hosted yesterday, set up by them, where they managed to raise 3 million for St. Jude’s...

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread Před 3 lety +880

    Man, this takes me back

    • @annonymousdude9416
      @annonymousdude9416 Před 3 lety

      ^^^

    • @iamamushroom411
      @iamamushroom411 Před 3 lety

      Yea

    • @iamamushroom411
      @iamamushroom411 Před 3 lety +2

      Also I really like your videos 👍

    • @jobrolon340
      @jobrolon340 Před 3 lety +3

      It seems you stopped editing to comment something for the algorithm.

    • @bajuju7959
      @bajuju7959 Před 3 lety +4

      What are you doing here? Go back to your “beating Pokémon Fire Red with only a Chancy” or something.
      Jk love your vids

  • @NewtonRPG
    @NewtonRPG Před 3 lety +762

    I remember one of the few episodes of Smash History being privated: the episode on Ryu.

    • @mh_a.d.
      @mh_a.d. Před 3 lety +39

      family man or american guy are way better

    • @arwinorso
      @arwinorso Před 3 lety +56

      People can like different things y'know..

    • @CancerEditioniscool23
      @CancerEditioniscool23 Před 3 lety +17

      Anime is for dweebs, watch Family Guy

    • @mh_a.d.
      @mh_a.d. Před 3 lety +27

      @@arwinorso i think he was just joking

    • @benjaminan1183
      @benjaminan1183 Před 3 lety +12

      Watch Family Guy, weeb.

  • @Kaisersaurus
    @Kaisersaurus Před 3 lety +302

    I remember when TheGamerFromMars and MatPat had minor beef

    • @Kaisersaurus
      @Kaisersaurus Před 3 lety +8

      @dorothydreams oftornadoes yeah

    • @lazilyymade
      @lazilyymade Před 3 lety +23

      Wait my cat curiosity is kicking in, got a TDLR on that beef?

    • @cab12300751
      @cab12300751 Před 3 lety +19

      @@lazilyymade just watch GFM's response video on his channel. He goes over the whole thing in that

    • @JohnRDVSMarston
      @JohnRDVSMarston Před 3 lety +76

      Quick explaining: GFM made a video about MatPat, and talking about controversies about him; ended up on a neutral note (I believe). MatPat thought it was just another roasting video, and kept, for minutes and minutes, saying that GFM called him gay or something dumb like that. GFM was bothered to make a response video for that, explaining everything. MatPat responded nothing as of now

    • @notaraven
      @notaraven Před 3 lety +39

      Play by play of thier beef
      Matpat has a neich of haters, a while back a couple of "game theory changed" vids came out with moderate attention.
      Gamerfrommars did a video giving his usual factual outline of game theorist channel.
      Matpat in a livestream lumped him into all the hate and reacted the pr approved version of poorly.
      Gamer reacts to the video with a clip of matpat talking about how he never watched porn and the bewildered look on his wife's face.
      Should've been nothing, Matpat does not take criticism very well but has a good group stopping him from slipping on bannana peels

  • @adamha.
    @adamha. Před 3 lety +587

    TheGamerFromMars but he's not a gamer who's from mars and he just talks about internet stories.

    • @Lolialbertoo9
      @Lolialbertoo9 Před 3 lety +27

      He used to make gaming videos for this channel

    • @ssbbmaster12345
      @ssbbmaster12345 Před 3 lety +19

      @@Lolialbertoo9 those were my favorite videos on the whole website tbh, and I still really love some of them like the tails doll glitch video, the lavender town theory, and especially the pacman level 256 glitch video, which was really cool to me especially considering that at the time I had no idea that some glitched out 256th level of pacman existed.

    • @adamha.
      @adamha. Před 3 lety +3

      @@Lolialbertoo9 yes I understand but it's a joke lol

    • @MrAjking808
      @MrAjking808 Před 3 lety +1

      @@adamha. a dumb joke not funny

    • @mikethecurious2489
      @mikethecurious2489 Před 3 lety

      Used make game videos

  • @twilliamspro
    @twilliamspro Před 3 lety +85

    Gaijin goombah explained the voice thing.
    When he started making the videos he had pretty bad anxiety that his voice sounded bad so he messed with it and made it a character (the little goombah guy)

    • @AZodiacCancer
      @AZodiacCancer Před 3 lety +7

      He commented higher up and explains it and why he left Matt's channel.

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha Před 3 lety

      Using the voice makes people hate him even more

  • @SoobiSP
    @SoobiSP Před 3 lety +332

    We better archive Food Theory before MatPat gets rid of it.

    • @woaddragon
      @woaddragon Před 3 lety +5

      Yes

    • @gedeonnunes5626
      @gedeonnunes5626 Před 3 lety +20

      We better get rid of it ourselves, actually. I mean, food theory?

    • @Jay9966
      @Jay9966 Před 3 lety +22

      @@gedeonnunes5626 I rather watch Uncle Roger talk about food than some over-the-top dumb manchild talk about food theories lol

    • @sonerec725
      @sonerec725 Před 3 lety +59

      @@gedeonnunes5626 i actually have been liking most of the food theory stuff ive seen. i hope he doesnt get rid of it.

    • @mattwolf7698
      @mattwolf7698 Před 3 lety +3

      Why does that even exist?

  • @soulwriter6342
    @soulwriter6342 Před 3 lety +306

    I genuinely want to know why people think Matt is a terrible person? He’s always been kind and charitable I don’t get the hate

    • @Emmabowlesss
      @Emmabowlesss Před 3 lety +73

      Yeah totally agree! I feel like he’s genuinely a nice guy, just a little too perky (gotta love the inner theatre kid). Maybe he comes of as disingenuous to others??

    • @younggamer7218
      @younggamer7218 Před 3 lety +70

      Well its just he can be quite cringey so people don't really like him too much that and some theories made by him are just stupid. So people don't really like that. Though I agree he is a good person if not kinda cringey at times.

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse Před 3 lety +62

      @@younggamer7218
      His cringe is admirable/adorable to me because I think he’s super self aware about it

    • @Emmabowlesss
      @Emmabowlesss Před 3 lety +53

      @LUC HARTWELL while I do think giving the Pope Undertale was a bit bizarre, another person literally gave the Pope a book about themselves. Definitely not the worst gift by any means

    • @Kevin-di6ef
      @Kevin-di6ef Před 3 lety +6

      He's not terrible, while he has done some few bad things, those are just common mistakes. I personally (any many others) find him too arrogant.

  • @Awsome2464
    @Awsome2464 Před 3 lety +298

    I'm fairly certain that the "TF2 vs Overwatch" episode of Deadlock didn't help the series at all

    • @metrohunter-qy4fz
      @metrohunter-qy4fz Před 3 lety +38

      It was probably the nail in the coffin

    • @fiendish9474
      @fiendish9474 Před 3 lety +55

      It was one of the most heavily debated GT video in the TF2 community, everyone was clowning on em

    • @deppo436
      @deppo436 Před 3 lety +21

      *TEAM DEATHMATCH*

    • @baloony6648
      @baloony6648 Před 3 lety +34

      Lmao I remember watching it when it came out and thinking "this is fucking garbage". That definitely killed the series for good.

    • @vicgc96
      @vicgc96 Před 3 lety +23

      "You play as white cis men!"

  • @JamesonDylan
    @JamesonDylan Před 3 lety +13

    I met MatPat in 2014 at a Con. He was very nice. He reveled in the attention from fans and answered all our questions. He was a lot of fun. It really seemed like his real personality.

  • @paddle_my_mad_laddle
    @paddle_my_mad_laddle Před 3 lety +157

    It's really interesting to have seen the dynamic of the Game Theorists go from a collective of video game enthusiasts to the Mat Pat show. I remember watching them between 2014-2016 when Mat was starting to grow the channel so it was an interesting time.
    Also the TOME project was more of a Christopher Niosi thing than it was a GT thing. The 15 episode animated series was went up on youtube in 2015 and it's still there today it seems.

    • @collaterale1
      @collaterale1 Před 3 lety +1

      Actually, he currently working on a Tome RPG game

    • @SofaPop.
      @SofaPop. Před 3 lety +1

      I mean, they still have Austin from shoddy cast

    • @eliphas_vlka
      @eliphas_vlka Před 3 lety

      @@SofaPop. i dont like what he do on GT, thats kinda annoying and not fun at all

  • @redben1252
    @redben1252 Před 3 lety +257

    There is another forgotten film theory show called "Film Legends"

    • @TheGamerFromMars
      @TheGamerFromMars  Před 3 lety +140

      Can't believe I missed one

    • @noem4162
      @noem4162 Před 3 lety +6

      @@TheGamerFromMars dang

    • @Jackaxe-ti4de
      @Jackaxe-ti4de Před 3 lety +18

      With this one what I understood (note I have not done ANY research to confimr this) is that it was a channel collab as a sorta 'sub boost' for both Mat and the other host. However It immediately saw extremely sporadic uploads and I don't think the viewership was all that great from what I remember.

    • @OmoSilverZet_X
      @OmoSilverZet_X Před 3 lety

      @@TheGamerFromMars oof

    • @iFYMxDRKNSFALLS
      @iFYMxDRKNSFALLS Před 3 lety +5

      wasn’t there a “best film ever!?” where it pits different movies and give it super high scores?

  • @AlexSilver9
    @AlexSilver9 Před 3 lety +58

    Anyone remember watching the Deadlock episodes where Mat Pat got Reggie from Nintendo? Those were cool.

  • @aidanquiett668
    @aidanquiett668 Před 3 lety +51

    Matpat seems kinda like he is raising tons of new channel ideas to flower into their own thing (or fail miserably after 2 episodes in some cases.) and use them as a way to hold viewers in between other shows or larger projects as a bonus, rather then the other way around. Pretty cool if its intentional on his end

    • @JohnRDVSMarston
      @JohnRDVSMarston Před 3 lety +5

      As it seems, he likes to make an idea bloom, and be shared with people; but the game theory channel was grown just for that, unfortunately: game theorizing. That's why a lot of them fail or get separated into their own personal channel; cause not everyone from that channel would like to see something different, so they would amass a small portion of views

  • @notsans9995
    @notsans9995 Před 3 lety +77

    Tome was actually on newgrounds for years way before gametheory was a thing, it actually started off using sprites instead of flash animation lol

    • @RunicGEAR
      @RunicGEAR Před 3 lety +1

      The good 'ol days of TTA

    • @RoninCatholic
      @RoninCatholic Před 3 lety +1

      That's the version I watched. I'm old.

    • @notsans9995
      @notsans9995 Před 3 lety +2

      @@RoninCatholic I just went on newgrounds and all the old episodes are still there. Its so damn cringey but damn I love the nostalgia rush of pre-social media internet.

  • @geegee4389
    @geegee4389 Před 3 lety +380

    MatPat really wanted people to call him "Matdaddy" because he grew a patchy beard.

    • @MrPine656
      @MrPine656 Před 3 lety +78

      That's something that's just supposed to happen on its own. Sakurai didn't ask to be called "Daddy Sakurai"

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades Před 3 lety +34

      umm thats not it works if you ask people to call you that it dies off fast just like all of hes video escapades

    • @Yungblvckie
      @Yungblvckie Před 3 lety +3

      Makes sense

    • @DMTInfinity
      @DMTInfinity Před 3 lety +2

      *#lolz*

    • @spudsbuchlaw
      @spudsbuchlaw Před 3 lety +16

      I think that's a joke

  • @squeenx
    @squeenx Před 3 lety +100

    I like culture clash and some of the other shows, didn't know he straight up deleted their existence :/ even if no one watched them at first, he at least could've left them there for posterity

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 Před 3 lety +2

      I didn't know that until now either and I agree.

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman Před 3 lety +6

      I presume they're deleted for algorithm reasons

    • @squeenx
      @squeenx Před 3 lety +3

      @@lovablesnowman ? What would that even mean?

    • @austinfarley8457
      @austinfarley8457 Před 3 lety +1

      Videos that do bad can hurt future videos that might do well

  • @valipower4468
    @valipower4468 Před 3 lety +24

    About the deadlock serie i remember the matpat say in one of hes livestreams that he and the people on the show got alot of hate for it and that it took a little to long to make.

    • @patrickmatrix9963
      @patrickmatrix9963 Před 3 lety +2

      I mean I’ve only seen the TF2 Vs Overwatch Deadlock but Dear God it was atrocious

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 3 lety +171

    Aw MatPat was helping Ronnies family out after his death, that’s sweet

    • @alexandredesouza3692
      @alexandredesouza3692 Před 3 lety +19

      Two of his former editors became suicidal. Out of their many attempts combined, one was successful.

    • @EmmureMARIO64
      @EmmureMARIO64 Před 3 lety +3

      I heard Ronnie was kind of jerk at E3 before his death

    • @firstnamelastname773
      @firstnamelastname773 Před 3 lety +17

      @@EmmureMARIO64 watch Matts video on it I think he said something about it

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 3 lety +1

      @@EmmureMARIO64 how exactly

    • @fiendish9474
      @fiendish9474 Před 3 lety +9

      @@alexandredesouza3692 jesus dude

  • @shadowknave1
    @shadowknave1 Před 3 lety +40

    The Smash History privating may have been due to Nintendo DMCAs.

    • @Starman062
      @Starman062 Před 3 lety +2

      That’s what I thought too. As Nintendo really didn’t like content creator back then

  • @FoxJ10027
    @FoxJ10027 Před 3 lety +9

    If I remember right, the TOME thing was basically just MatPat signal boosting a show he liked. It's actually a remake of an old sprite animation show. And they weren't really "video game characters" so much as "people playing a futuristic MMO like Sword Art Online or .hack".

  • @tylermascola
    @tylermascola Před 3 lety +3

    Hey there, I'm a current Game Theory editor!
    I don't have a lot of behind-the-scenes knowledge, but I can confirm that the lack of gaming shows that deviate from the "Game Theory" concept is due to the algorithm not favoring channels without a clear focus. It's a shame some of these series are privated though. I remember really enjoying Smash History.
    As for Frame-by-Frame on Film Theory, the creator's name was Kyle Adams (AKA twelthofadime). Not only did his FT series disappear, but almost all of his online content has been scrubbed. Including an entire gaming channel he did alongside Makemebad35 called "Pwnage". The theory is that he has moved on from CZcams as a career and dissociated himself with that content in order to help his chances with future employment.

  • @blooniel8032
    @blooniel8032 Před 3 lety +4

    It's sad cause the Frame by Frame series of videos where absolute bangers

  • @skinnychumpz007
    @skinnychumpz007 Před 3 lety +89

    "Ive actually never looked at pooorn.. ever."
    -Matpat (2017)

    • @WusterWasti
      @WusterWasti Před 3 lety +12

      this episode was cringe-gold.

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf Před 3 lety +8

      (X) doubt

    • @eliphas_vlka
      @eliphas_vlka Před 3 lety +7

      Everyone say that in front of their wife x)

    • @Riitje
      @Riitje Před 3 lety +2

      Also very easily debunked as he has used work of a certain lewd artist in his thumbnails before. He actually used to use raunchy themes in his earlier Game Theory videos.

    • @aeircrown7994
      @aeircrown7994 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Riitje lol, it's actually his wife and him pick those lewd pictures because their assumption is that it can gain views.

  • @KreigWes
    @KreigWes Před 3 lety +30

    Most of us watched all these shows, now they’re lost media. Weird huh.

  • @MuuToo
    @MuuToo Před 3 lety +9

    I feel like Deadlock reached a boiling point at the TF2 v Overwatch video. Came off more as an attempt to ride the hate train, and considering how inaccurate a lot of it was just made the video come off as super ingenuous, with the guy defending TF2 not even representing it well. Hell, MatPat didn't even seem like he truly knew much about Overwatch.

  • @mr.waffles8739
    @mr.waffles8739 Před 3 lety +6

    Hearing about Ronnie broke my heart, I just never thought he would do that, I had no idea he was suffering so much, I wish I could have done something to help him

  • @drunkerraritydash4885
    @drunkerraritydash4885 Před 3 lety +188

    Matpat more like Wattpad

  • @thatguyinaldi9056
    @thatguyinaldi9056 Před 3 lety +17

    Iirc the reason TOME is gone is due to its creator Kirbopher. He’s been involved in a few scandals. I believe he was exposed for being a physical abuser.
    One of the more notable ones is that he was the original voice actor for Byleth in Fire Emblem Three Houses. But broke his NDA and was removed from the project.

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf Před 3 lety

      Didn't he make brawl taunts back in the day.

    • @thatguyinaldi9056
      @thatguyinaldi9056 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Sgt-Wolf yeeeeep. So in another timeline he would’ve went from doing smash parodies to actually being a character in smash

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf Před 3 lety

      @@thatguyinaldi9056
      Damm...

    • @thatguyinaldi9056
      @thatguyinaldi9056 Před 3 lety

      @@Sgt-Wolf yeah.. :/

    • @CSwizzleDizzle
      @CSwizzleDizzle Před 3 lety +3

      Actually if I recall, he bragged about Byleth being in Smash before it was announced. So not only did he break his NDA, but he leaked the character before release too. Truly a modern day version of the Icarus story.

  • @unknownseizure
    @unknownseizure Před 3 lety +56

    Hey but this secret is just a theory.
    *A matt theory*

  • @jasminewilliams3351
    @jasminewilliams3351 Před 3 lety +6

    Digressing and Sidequesting will always be one kf the highlights of that channel ❤ Ronnie had a brilliant mind and real talent. He is sorely missed. I had no idea his family is getting the revenue from those videos either, makes me want to revisit them again :)

  • @sorashiunin5287
    @sorashiunin5287 Před 3 lety +2

    Dunno if anyone said this but Frame by Frame was made by Twelfthofadime and idk why but all traces of him have been wiped from the internet. Hearing you talk about it unlocked a memory because I had completely forgot about that show and I remembered I had watched the creators content before he collabed with Matpat on film theory!

  • @shinkuhs
    @shinkuhs Před 3 lety +7

    Gaijin, Ronnie, Drake and Foot of a ferrot were always my favs. Still watch everyone to this day.

  • @Jrockten
    @Jrockten Před 3 lety +9

    I remember Mat said in one of his life streams that he stopped deadlock because the debates made people too upset

  • @Amador01Hector
    @Amador01Hector Před 3 lety +10

    If I remember correctly, "Frame by Frame" was hosted by Kyle, who also did let's plays with MakeMeBad35 on another channel called "pwnageshow".
    Edit: pwnageshow and his own channel, "twelthofadime" no longer contain videos.

    • @TheAlexSchmidt
      @TheAlexSchmidt Před 3 lety +1

      Yep, Kyle's personal videos also disappeared from his account.

  • @ashielilystar6134
    @ashielilystar6134 Před 3 lety +4

    1:16
    "ron was calmer than most hosts”
    Austin’s screaming
    also me:yep have to agree with ya there

  • @spacetacos7574
    @spacetacos7574 Před 3 lety +46

    Weirdly enough,game theory sorta became all these meshed togethor

  • @bastois
    @bastois Před 3 lety +29

    When I was younger I paid for the CZcams red game lab series, it gets better past the mirror's edge video but not by much.
    The stand out example is the Watch Dogs video where they actually brought in cyber security personalities and used real cyber attacks, still a bit cringe but honestly pretty good considering the rest of the series.
    I recommend you check it out if you have even a slight interest in cyber security because honestly as a young teenager, that video along with a few other things led to me pursuing a career in cyber security.

    • @WeatherWX
      @WeatherWX Před 3 lety

      If you want to practice penetrating I would suggest to check out hack the box.

    • @grambam36
      @grambam36 Před 3 lety

      Ayyy man! That's rad! I'm pursuing that career as well! Best of luck!

  • @blightcaster4388
    @blightcaster4388 Před 3 lety +61

    Hot take: Deadlock got canceled after King Raja assblasted him about the TF2 Vs. Overwatch episode. JUst a theory...
    Did you expect the funny game theory meme? Good. My joke worked.

    • @themanwiththegoldengooch9811
      @themanwiththegoldengooch9811 Před 3 lety

      what happened in the episode that got everyone so upset?

    • @blightcaster4388
      @blightcaster4388 Před 3 lety +9

      @@themanwiththegoldengooch9811 The king pointed out several writing mistakes as well as biased misinformation that made both games look either better or worse than they actually were. I recommend watching King Raja's video for more info if not a few laughs :D

    • @dashua1735
      @dashua1735 Před 3 lety +3

      I miss King Raja. He's a chill guy.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Před 3 lety

      @@themanwiththegoldengooch9811 generally, the Deadlock episodes represented both sides poorly. The Dark Souls Episode said you needed the very obscure rusted iron ring to beat the game, and that made it bad. You don’t need that item, at all. They also didn’t realized that the NPC’s are supposed to be unreliable to some extent.

  • @nojo9308
    @nojo9308 Před 3 lety +1

    He said sometime on gtlive that the reason they stopped deadlock was because the custom pixel animations took too long to animate along with everything else they were doing

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM Před 3 lety +1

    Dang Ronnie passed? I had kinda just tuned out Game Theory in general a good while before 2018 so I never knew. That's a damn shame he took his own life too, his show was one of my favorites on the channel and he always seemed like a chill, content guy. Rest in peace

  • @guardian4452
    @guardian4452 Před 3 lety +13

    I'm kinda surprised about tome being on game theory but most of these video series meantion were a nice blast from the past

  • @CakeoftheMews
    @CakeoftheMews Před 3 lety +7

    TOME is actually a whole webseries my dude. It wasn't like, EXCLUSIVE to Game Theory. It was put up there as promotion in a way.

  • @grapefaceofficial
    @grapefaceofficial Před 3 lety +2

    Your content is so interesting, but your voice is so relaxing, seriously keep up what you're doing!!

  • @Reshiram793
    @Reshiram793 Před 3 lety +1

    The guy from frame by frame, Kyle, had another channel called Pwnageshow that nearly disappeared from existence, barring some reuploades

  • @jacobokazaki759
    @jacobokazaki759 Před 3 lety +7

    Oh my god all of these were buried so deep in my mind. All the memories are flooding back

  • @lazilyymade
    @lazilyymade Před 3 lety +4

    When you watch Game Theory just to hear his "I solved FNAF"s and had no clue there was a hidden cinematic universe.

  • @jasminewilliams3351
    @jasminewilliams3351 Před 3 lety +1

    I love that Game Theory has all these side projects and attempts at things. It's how we get cool stuff, like their RPG that I LOVED.

  • @joseh.749
    @joseh.749 Před 3 lety +292

    14 minutes long I see you're trying to afford a ridge wallet

    • @sportakus3
      @sportakus3 Před 3 lety +14

      At least he is talking on the point without unecessary filler speech. When he was done with one thing, he went to another.

    • @maripaws
      @maripaws Před 3 lety

      well don't you need an 8 minute video to get monetization now?

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee Před 3 lety

      @@sportakus3 I feel like this is a jab at MauLer.

    • @zednotzee
      @zednotzee Před 3 lety +3

      Man those ridge wallet prices are crazy. I bought a knockoff for $12. Holds my money and cards just fine

    • @dannywolfpero
      @dannywolfpero Před 3 lety

      @@zednotzee And they don't have them in RED! That's all i want!

  • @miguelescobedo5112
    @miguelescobedo5112 Před 3 lety +12

    It really makes you think what would happen if all the side shows on Game Theory got popular?

    • @Kahadi
      @Kahadi Před 3 lety +1

      Well, for an easy idea of it, just look up Gaijin Goombah. He did Game Exchange and Culture Shock on The Game Theorists, but separated to his own channel so they could keep their focus more narrow for algorithm purposes (the algorithm would see that people would skip over videos and take it as fluctuating popularity when it was simply that some people would only come for one series. Separating the channels meant that the algorithm would play nice. A lot of channels did similar around then, ending series or separating them between channels like a music channel and a gaming channel sort of thing). Gaijin continued on his own channel with Culture Shock and Game Exchange and has since expanded to other series with the same themes (Which Ninja, looking at popular ninjas in media and rating them on historical accuracy, and now one about yokai in media and telling their mythological origins). So while some may have stayed on the main channel (I'm sure D&SQ would have stayed if Ronnie was still alive), most would likely have either remained until their popularity died or would have separated to their own channels to aid the algorithm like Gaijin did (and I believe Footofaferret continued A Brief History on his own channel for a bit as well)

  • @MC-xn5oh
    @MC-xn5oh Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid man as always!

  • @Mike01029
    @Mike01029 Před 3 lety +49

    You should make a video about danger Dolan
    Used to like him and game theory but they started going to crap later

    • @bryzantine1571
      @bryzantine1571 Před 3 lety +14

      Plus the pink cat disappeared

    • @spebtm8017
      @spebtm8017 Před 3 lety +2

      WE NEED THIS

    • @Shedgie
      @Shedgie Před 3 lety +3

      Oh my gosh yea I remember those guys its so weird with what happened and how they changed

    • @jakemarshall360
      @jakemarshall360 Před 3 lety +1

      He was funny until he tried to make a joke every two seconds in his video the final nail was the weird ass animation shit with the cat

    • @ilikesaying
      @ilikesaying Před 3 lety +4

      Pretty sure they also had 18+ content creators animate some of their videos

  • @bleeduntildeath
    @bleeduntildeath Před 3 lety +42

    TOME: "there was no controversy"
    ah, ignoring the kirbopher scandal I see

    • @spudsbuchlaw
      @spudsbuchlaw Před 3 lety

      Tome? That's a name I havent heard in years.
      I know not of this controversy

    • @poposao1
      @poposao1 Před 3 lety +3

      Whatever “scandal” it had, it was mostly unrelated to TOME since the show had already finished.
      But I suppose most of the allegations came from his time heading the project, so it’s iffy.

    • @accentedh3131
      @accentedh3131 Před 3 lety

      What scandal?

    • @bleeduntildeath
      @bleeduntildeath Před 3 lety +1

      @@accentedh3131 apparently he has a historyof sexual harrassment

    • @accentedh3131
      @accentedh3131 Před 3 lety

      @@bleeduntildeath Crazy

  • @RobertSeeJen
    @RobertSeeJen Před 3 lety +14

    I have NEVER been hit so hard by a YT death as Ronnie.

  • @battlechiky1251
    @battlechiky1251 Před 10 měsíci +2

    UPDATE:
    Austin left the game theorists, to make videos on his own channel and the videos on game theory eere deleted, whuch means that a lot of THE SCIENCE can be considered lost media.

  • @christianlopez2793
    @christianlopez2793 Před 3 lety

    Was looking for your channel because I forgot to sub so I searched up
    *” What happened to channel “ because this is the series I remember the most*

  • @Crumbledink
    @Crumbledink Před 3 lety +10

    I didn’t really like Deadlock but I did really appreciate the animations

  • @vivithegr8389
    @vivithegr8389 Před 3 lety +3

    Ronnie was my favorite part of Game Theory's channel... Rest in peace...

  • @Raleigh-uh2yh
    @Raleigh-uh2yh Před 2 lety +1

    TOME! Oh my god! It’s on Chris Niosi’s own channel and fully completed!
    I loved its concept and a lot of the designs. The voice over is pretty good too. I think he’s also working on making a game based on TOME as well, I remember him streaming sprite animation. Hell, littleKuriboh voices in it too!
    I had no clue it was associated with GT at all! Definitely recommend checking it out.

  • @TheHairydanny22
    @TheHairydanny22 Před 3 lety +2

    Frame by frame was really good, i miss it

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 Před 3 lety +4

    Remember when Game Theory was more than just MatPat? You know it was a long time ago because Screw Attack was still a thing.

  • @robinfire0772
    @robinfire0772 Před 3 lety +27

    Would be a interesting video if you did one on "what happened to animatedjames?" Keep up the great content thou ^^

    • @mkscorp9152
      @mkscorp9152 Před 3 lety +2

      Ye, I'd like to a video on that ngl

    • @Rvtro
      @Rvtro Před 3 lety +3

      I think he was caught up in allegations I think and stop doing what he did, but this was a long time ago and I don't know if what i heard was true

    • @robinfire0772
      @robinfire0772 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Rvtro I've heard some of that too, but was never too sure about them so I think it would at least be an interesting topic to talk about in the next video, sorry just need closure on that channel

    • @mkscorp9152
      @mkscorp9152 Před 3 lety

      @@robinfire0772 ye, don't rly know the full story but I recall maybe hearing a thing or 2

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha Před 3 lety +1

      He just left suddenly

  • @SupaKoopaTroopa64
    @SupaKoopaTroopa64 Před 3 lety

    This really brings back some memories! Game Theory was the first channel I subscribed to.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Před 3 lety +1

    I am not huge into gaming, but I always watch these videos thanks to you and your content. Your channel is just that damn interesting! :)

  • @G_8_C
    @G_8_C Před 3 lety +4

    There was that short collaboration Matt did with Nickelodeon that he uploaded exclusively to twitter.

  • @rainbowdemon5033
    @rainbowdemon5033 Před rokem +4

    And now The Science Of joins the roster

  • @embryonic719
    @embryonic719 Před 3 lety

    Love your videos man! Keep it up!

  • @Vexmybeloved_
    @Vexmybeloved_ Před 3 lety +1

    Gosh I remember Frame by Frame. It was just deleted one day and I never knew why... 😔 It was literally my favorite show on CZcams and I used to rewatch those videos almost every week

  • @alfianfahmi5430
    @alfianfahmi5430 Před 3 lety +9

    I don't even know Ronnie died. Rest in Peace 😔😔

    • @Lala46949
      @Lala46949 Před 3 lety

      yeah he died on July 4th 2018

  • @ijustdontcareanymore1022
    @ijustdontcareanymore1022 Před 3 lety +15

    Does anyone else think Matt and his wife kinda look like they could be brother and sister? 🤣

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 Před 3 lety +3

      They mentioned a few years ago that a lot of people say that (and I originally thought they were siblings too)! But it’s just coincidence 😂 they met for the first time in college

  • @kevinthibodeau6813
    @kevinthibodeau6813 Před 3 lety

    Man I’m glad I found u listening to these videos is nice while doing work

  • @Spar_kie
    @Spar_kie Před 3 lety +1

    God, TOME, I need to watch that again. I remember first seeing it on Mat's channel, excitedly waiting for new uploads, before realizing that it was uploaded on another channel with a lot more episodes. Got to the final one and just forgot about it until now. Time for a trip down memory lane it seems.

  • @DJl3iohazord
    @DJl3iohazord Před 3 lety +6

    Even after all these years, I still remember when he made that video about the headshot you get in the beginning of fallout new Vegas and I had to correct a few things.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Před 3 lety

      Mainly how he ignored that Courier 6 got shot twice.

  • @Spongi_124
    @Spongi_124 Před 3 lety +3

    Big shame Brief history and Deadlock was cancelled, both of them were my favorite shows on Game theory, and having them being gone is a darn shame

    • @voidistrash5040
      @voidistrash5040 Před 3 lety

      Lucky that we can still watch a brief history on FootofaFerrets channel

  • @gregaman27
    @gregaman27 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting, never short of ideas keep it up bro

  • @BaltaBueno
    @BaltaBueno Před 2 lety

    Man I remember all of these shows now but forgot over the years since I kinda stopped checking up on the channel ever since everything got turned into Five Nights at Freddy's, though I still tune in here and there. Great video 👌

  • @bluekirby64
    @bluekirby64 Před 3 lety +4

    The only CZcamsr that had a show on the Game Theorist channel that I still watch is Gajin Goomba

    • @lilllyeevee6536
      @lilllyeevee6536 Před 3 lety +1

      I like him. He’s so interesting then MatPat😊

  • @RandyLeftHandy
    @RandyLeftHandy Před 3 lety +6

    I love when he tries to do a history themed episode and gets shit on

  • @LAWMECHE
    @LAWMECHE Před 3 lety +2

    I miss digressing and side questing so much. Rest In Peace Ronnie

  • @cpMetis
    @cpMetis Před 3 lety +1

    I don't recall TOME ever having been associated with Game Theory beyond them uploading one episode for promotion, and believe they said that's the entire reason why it was there.
    TOME was originally a basic Newgrounds show, and what you see as the series now was a complete remake and rewrite. Also, it's awesome.
    Say I, NYLOCKE! DRAGON OF VAGUELY REMEMBERING PAST EVENTS!

  • @SwaggerSonic
    @SwaggerSonic Před 3 lety +6

    Out of all the years they could’ve set that Tome show in

  • @vustvaleo8068
    @vustvaleo8068 Před 3 lety +3

    rest in peace Ronnie, the world ain't the same without you.

  • @urieldaluz250
    @urieldaluz250 Před 3 lety +1

    For the record, on deadlock, I forget when, but I think Matpat mentioned in another video when talking about fan arguments that deadlock basically was getting people up in arms having fights about the topics involved instead of the more calm rational debates he was hoping for? My phrasing may be off, but it was something about basically getting people too worked up rather than talking stuff out. (Might have been in his video post giving undertale to the pope, but I could be wrong)

  • @Coopcrafter
    @Coopcrafter Před 3 lety +2

    Tome became a full series

  • @treymon3135
    @treymon3135 Před 3 lety +9

    There has got to be backup downloads of the Smash History series. Those videos got a lot of views.

  • @mavajax8814
    @mavajax8814 Před 3 lety +6

    Gaijin goombah was the only reason i watched gt channel. Then i found goombah's own channel and it was bye bye game theory

  • @Illegal_Immigrant
    @Illegal_Immigrant Před 3 lety +2

    What scares me, i literally have been a matpat fan long enough to know every single one, except frame by frame and tome.

  • @cupcakewarp
    @cupcakewarp Před 3 lety +2

    I remember watching all ,i think 3 seasons, of TOME. Played a big part of my childhood and I really loved it.