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3 pounds overweight was the red flag ...
Is it really? Haney was probably heavier on the night? You could argue the weight cut itself did the damage but thatâs it, 3lb extra is nothing in reality if both guys are equally hydrated.
â@ouroborosbond7412 You've just disproved you own point because they wasn't equally dehydrated.
Exactly, Hanley was depleted you could see that on the scales, his body never recovered from the cut. Garcia made no attempt to make 140
Looks like Benn v Garcia is on for the champion cheater
Ostarine can increase a boxers power tremendously this is very serious
âI donât know where to get steroidsâ thatâs called a persuasive statement, you do that when youâre lying
not gonna lie i dont like the new Ryan but that was a good question he asked.. "why let him in there ring after they tested his blood?" i suppose too much money was in the fight to stop it but still that itself should legitimize the win
You can micro dose steroids and they only stay in your system for 6/8 hours, you can eat gummies and the exit the system very quickly
Thank you jesus , dumbest thing ive ever heard
â@5317985 because they didn't know he was dirty yet as the results hadn't come back... as is well documented and he knows that too. Just another diversion tactic
Not always
It's not the trainers they only train boxers I'd look at thier strength and conditioning trainers and supplements taken after
Yes. Worst headline to a video ever, like they canât get a home delivery ? đ talk about push the book.
I didnât believe Garcia at first but when he uploaded that video with those two random people in the background nodding and agreeing, I was convinced he IS innocent !
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Innocent like Connor bum
Lol
Kinda ironic that Connor Benn called him out immediately for a fight đđ let them both fight each other full of steroids⊠fair fight then
Simon loves the sound of his own voice turns a 20 second answer into a 5 minute ramble
Like it or not he's the star of talksport for a reason
@@MrJeffHead yeah I agree just some times less is more
@@PeteSutcliffebetter than Jimâs woke ramblings haha but yeah I know what you mean
the face of boxing đ
I thought that Fury was the 'face of boxing', but it is apparently Garcia. Wonderful how the title has been passed from one PED cheat to another. đ
I cheated so much on fat burners I was 3lbs overweight. Think for yourselves ppl
Wasn't it for muscle growth?
he obviously didnât train properly to make the weight or he couldnât make the weight and tried to cheat by taking fat burners either or heâs fucked himself
This is hillarious people deffending him and simon blaming coaches. Didnt do this with connor benn did ya double standards as usual from the clowns of the internet
Turn a failed test into a criminal investigation, problem is half solved. Hold the authorities to account that decide when to test and publish for financial gain.
Paint watches Adam Catterall dry
Naa, Paint watches Ben Shalom
Simple, ped boxing, non ped boxing. If you do non ped and you get caught, life ban from both categories.
It's a bit fishy this coming out now... Don't trust it at all...
Yeah facts, I mean everything was against Ryan on the night. The biased ref, the 112-112 judge, all the media and the odds were massively stacked in Haney's favour so A LOT of people lost money that night.
Apparently they knew the 'results' a day or 2 after the fight so why wait 10 days to release the 'results'? Plus VADA is voluntary testing so why would he volunteer to get tested if he knew it would come back positive?
That's how tests are done. They come out days after. Everything is not a conspiracy.
What a drug test result after the fight? It's happened loads across MMA and boxing.
You can't ban the trainers. How fkin stupid.
Since when was this catteralls sport or jordans they have never had a fight in the street let alone a boxing match there sport đ€·đđđđđđđ
There's logistical issues that would delay the results. WADA only have accredited labs that meet the requirements for dealing with the results
Turkey dinosaurs are so underrated, as are drummers and potato waffles đ§
Nah. Raggo food
Alphabet potato bites
@cm9851 what a belting shout that is
if depression and negativity was a human it would look like Adam cattrerall
Dropped hugely in my estimation when he had the chance to answer frank about all his comments and flapped it massively face to face. Never took him seriously after that
@@zfitzz3595yes he let himself down
Proper misery guys
Do a rematch with a proper ref and Garcia stops him
With or without PEDs?
Lmao didnât Garcia say he wasnât rematching no matter what⊠Haney called for the rematch after the fight.
@@CtFletcher-eg5zj Haney said no to a rematch
Should be lengthy ban first time, banned for life it it happens again.
I like Simon Jordan, but the buck stops with the fighters!
This is nothing to do with trainers or nutritionists etc..... They are adults, they know right from wrong. Even if the trainers are forcing it on them, they should say no!
Imagine saying you want to kill someone in the ring then missing weight on purpose and fighting with PEDs in your system. So guess we were all right Ryan isnât elite n he clearly knew it.
Nandrolone has also been mentioned in Garcia test also
You can buy ostarine pretty readily and just take a pill/drops at home.
It clears in about 2wks so likely he just didnât stop taking it in time (if he did) or heâs had a tainted supplement which is also fairly likely.
Iâm sure there are trainers/coaches who are doing it but feel itâll be low.
I agree just look at aj he had the same trainer aswel just seems he had better team along with it to help him not get popped
Heâs clean man. Haneyâs team paid the ref and one of the judges. I wouldnât be surprised if this was paid for and organised by Haneys team against Ryan too.
Yeah and he once chucked a a snowball and hit the sun
The earth is also flat and we never went to the moon either and the planet is run by aliens. Great conspiracy I didn't know devin haney run the whole of boxing đđđ
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God, people talk some shi*e on here!
If Haney paid the judges why did he lose ffs. Are you simple? Any evidence ?
Not to mention sarns are usually tablet form mk yk etc etc
When Garcia failed to make the weight and his behaviour also seemed to be a bit erratic, I said to my mate that I think the fight should be called off because something is not right here. I know there were comments on you tube saying the same thing. The punishments needs to change because the way things are the fighters are always going to be prepared to take the risk. Of course, like all the others that have been caught, he will claim to be innocent, and will undoubtedly get the best lawyers etc to 'prove' that his sample was contaminated. But I believe that boxing now has a real problem, and I would not be surprised if, at the top levels of the sport, this is widespread. They are all at it
Also if a fighter is tested pre fight whenever this is it should be analysed that day, you wont get this scenario anymore.
Cancelled fights lose everybody millions.
The thing is you can never prove trainer being involved even though most of the time they will be - also think fighter has to take accountability
Ostarine is a sarm not a p.e.d
He was already cheating by coming in over the limit. Win was tarnished from start. Ludicrous
Trainers probably not at fault they dont cary out nutrition or strength and conditioning
In this ccase it's BS cause Derrick James doesn't have this level of control over Ryan. But Ryan has his own wider team & hang ons including his family & oscar etc.
NEXT - Conner Benn Vs Garcia, battle of the bad boys....let's get ready to Rumble.
'Ban the trainers' call is nonsensical.
Unless you have witnesses who are willing to testify against a trainer or nutritionist, or anybody else for that matter, you'll never be able to pursue this.
It's ok saying that fighters don't do it alone, but fighters are communicating with and advised by plenty of people who know nothing about sport, never mind boxing. The current boxing scene is full of fallouts between boxers and promoters. Ostensibly it is about money, but what is also a factor is young men being advised by their 'mates' about what they should do, who they should sign with, who they should fight, how they should train etc.
If Mick from Mansfield can get PEDs from his local gym, then so can a boxer without his manager, trainer, nutrionist and promoter knowing anything about it.
Do you have to take this drug over time for it to build up in your system before it will work or does it work straight away
People respect Adamâs boxing opinion far higher than Simonâs.
PS- ban him he could of killed someone
Iâve never known someone repeat the same phrases like Simon Jordan does. He says the same thing in every interview yet people are still under the illusion heâs a genius.
Adam Caterall on the other hand is a brilliant broadcaster.
Crazy time split the sport none peds boxing and peds boxing and both will be watched fact so u have a clean sport and a peds sport. Brilliant
Ostarine was not the reason Garcia won lol, being a slightly leaner and heavier fighter does not matter, Haney was outclassed it is that simple.
He cheated plain and simple. Get his azz out of boxing!
@@jmoney6244 Son I don't really follow the guy but watched him destroy Haney, Loma exposed Haney prior to this fight also. Tank dismantled Garcia because there are levels to boxing. Usyk vs AJ a fine example. Accept your boy Haney not as good as you thought.
Haney got what he deserved hahahaha.
Basically every single boxer takes pedâs when are the fans gna realise this?
So you as the presenter if your found to be doing dodgy stuff in your personal life and get sacked does your co host also get sacked ?
Simon Jordan's missus ain't getting no lead..
You guys think any of Furys wins should be over turned for PED abuse?
Talk sport: how dare you sir!
At last...... Ban the trainer I totally agree
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber â
Get a new line, it's beyond cringe now
What does that mean? Uk slang is something else lol!
Where did this originate?
@@Oscar-ei3de in someone's tiny sad little mind ...
Sir Simon and Sir Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber
If the test come back positive why did they let the fight go ahead
It takes a period of time to get the results
It takes at least 4 days to get the results!
Apparently they knew a day or two after the fight so why have they waited 10 days to release the 'results'? Sus.
Plus everything was against Ryan on the night, particularly the biased ref, the 112-112 judge and the odds were massively stacked in Haney's favour so A LOT of people lost money that night. Another thing is VADA is voluntary testing so why would he get tested if he knew it came back positive? Doesn't make sense.
The face off boxing ??? đ I think that title go to turkie
It helps you loose weight ok that worked well let's see what the end outcome is before we make a judgement i agree its not usually done alone but to suggest a fighter can't do it without the trainers knowledge is a stretch
No it doesnt, it will help you hold on to muscle when you cut weight, but its not a fat burner, in fact it was originally designed to stop cancer patients losing muscle tissue.
Ok Ryan did look fairly jacked compared to any of his previous fights but Iâll accept that but this vada testing is just plain dodgy man never mind the victor Conte association with it and his close relationship with Haney đ€ we all knew Haney couldnât punch or take a punch and Ryan heâs always been an explosive puncher something stinks big time here
He hasnât always been an explosive fighter. He could crack an egg in his first 10 fights
He looked more ripped at 143 than he did at 136 đ
Simon it got nothing to do with the trainers
The fighters are the boss
The buck stops with them
The Haney camp seem to have been able to get the referee to unfairly advantage them. Would it be impossible for them to taint Ryan Garcias test sample??
He had a Hollywood s&c coach that was bragging about making the goal weight of 143lbs, id point the finger at him first
Donât forget what who Ryan was going after on the lead up to this fight
Funny how they gave no credit to Derrick James for Ryan (or Joshuaâs) wins but when Garcia gets busted itâs all the trainers fault
So how do you prove it was administered by a trainer đ
I thought fighters at this level were tested all through camp, never mind testing positive the day of the fight and it still goes ahead. Money talks.
Ryan juiced up ashwaganda Garcia!
Why can't they announce the results of tests before fight ? in any other sport they wouldn't be able to compete but as you say its all about the money and if he's found to have deliberately taken substance his purse should be forfeited, the testing authority should be looked at as well surely can't be allowed to happen the whole thing's bonkers.
Youâll find in a lot of sports drug test results for participants donât become known until after the event. For instance: athletic events, weight lifting, tennis, etc. Same for multidiscipline events like the Olympics. Thatâs because they do tests straight after the event has taken place. And thatâs why you get a lot of retrospective bans and stripping of titles and medals. But in something like boxing, Iâve often wondered if thereâs any spiking going on. It may be possible maybe for someone on the opposite team to taint an opponentâs water or something. I remember Tyson Fury being very, very careful about his water and only drinking from bottles given to him by specifically someone trusted from his team and not from anyone else. He was concerned about someone spiking his drinks. So, maybe itâs not cut and dried that Garcia deliberately cheated. I mean, how could he be that stupid knowing heâs going to get tested? The whole thing is so suspicious.
Don't buy it. Why would he take a performance enhancer the night of the fight when it wouldn't benefit him in the slightest makes no sense considering how many times he was tested throughout the build-up and all came up clean makes NO SENSE
Still the face of boxing innocent until proven guilty
No chance he failed a test. Corruption
IF this is true, its far worse than the Benn situation......WHERES THE SAME ENERGY FROM YOU MUPPETS?!?!?
Here's an idea for Double Turkey, what about 5v5 but we fill the line up with drug cheats.
Why does everyone pretend they are not cheating and that it's all some conspiracy
There all on peds just look at aj they just have better teams to manage it without getting popped
Do not forget Fury Whyte and Canelo and many more that have not been caught .
Whyte was never proved guilty
Its crazy how they keep saying Ryan is the face of boxing. He comes in overweight and tells everyone he did it on purpose and still gets praised for it. Crazy how media has selective outrage. If the PED allegation is true he should be banned, but im sure bc of his popularity and social media following, nothing will happen.
u can have advantage in sport train harder u shudt have to take something to win
Adam really needs to stop. He had clean drug tests all the way up to the fight. Ostarine would have had no impact on his performance in the timeframe between the cleared test and failed test. Secondly it was only a trace amount and has been found in contaminated supplements. Unlike these guys who just jump on the bandwagon listen to Chris Algieri who said the amount of substance found was very important, itâs not just about testing positive
Simon wasn't concerned by Garcia's behaviour before the fight, he was very clear about that. Now it has come to light he was juiced up, and had been erratic and seemingly unhinged, talking about being raped as a child, kidnapped etc, it seems all was not well.
Do people still take boxing seriously ? The people that run it are a joke. Top to bottom, from promoters to the fighters to the governing bodies.
It's always been corrupt. From the judges to the refs. A lot needs addressing.
If peds didn't do anything they wouldn't be used
He's already embarrassed Haney and released the dis track.
I don't think Garcia gives a đ©
If he's banned, he'll just become a CZcams boxer.
I donât think Garcia would be so stupid to take PEDs in such a massive fight come on people
Hahaha. Are you actually serious ???.
Oh my god. For one thing saying Garcia couldn't be that stupid is hilarious .
But second that he wouldn't take it during a big fight ??. It happens all the time.
Also he was happy to be 3lb overweight for a massive world title fight but I guess that's just fine ?. Lol
Why would he not take peds in a massive fight??? It gives him an advantage what a stupid thing to say
They all cheat. There are those who get caught, and those that donât.
Come on man itâs not that difficult he did it - instead of us all trying to become internet chemist just look at it in itâs simplest form he failed twice for a none substance
@@johnh5660 ooh đŻ someone has had a bad day
Wheres all the hate for garcia when benn gets hammerd
Come on lads... most of them are on something! Look at Linford Cristy back in the day. Fastest man on the planet. I met his supplement guy when he made the record & tried this xxx he was using. Can only use it for 1 month becouse you accelerate so much you crash after 1 montg. Most athletes use something so guys don't be so naive...
Simon really hurt by that haney comment like its the same level as drug cheating đđ he never fails to bring it up
Itâs just a pr move he ainât cheating b sample will come back negative
And how do you know
â@@rickoh8581 because it makes no sense, VADA is voluntary testing so why would he get tested if he knew it would come back positive?
Why have they waited 10 days to release this info? Apparently they knew a day or two after the fight. Everything was against Ryan that night, particularly the biased ref and 112-112 judge.... Makes no sense.
Of course . I love people like you . Who is the pr move from ?. What people benefit from the pr move ?. What people are joined in on creating this pr move .
Your suggesting the actual science labs that do the tests and put the results out have also gotten in on the pr act and have completely gone against all of their scientific principles to also join in on the pr move that benefits who ??? .
I laugh. Have you thought this through ? . Also the B sample has basically never came back different to the A.
o.k.then mate.. cos making people think you're a cheat is good pr right?? Yeah, great idea that...FFS!
@@johnh5660 it has
Sarms are rife whatâs worse is the actual belief that they are safer than most steroids đ
You cant say that the drug didnt work very well because he was still overweight. If he didnt take it, he probably would have been even heavier
Shut up Simon let Adam speak
He's overweight for sure which is cheating in its own right.
But give him a chance with these findings I swear it's becoming so regular now it's like drinking tap water will test you positive. I don't know I could be very wrong but all these findings are just going mad
Adam Catterall... please go and talk about something else.
Canelo popped for clen which is worse
Need to ban the whole team! It's becoming a joke and will switch fans off the sport, when you see fury and canelo still making millions after being caught it just tells the up and coming fighters that it's worth the risk. I find it strange Eddie is calling for a no contest, wonder if he would if Benn had beat Eubank??? Dodgy promoters covering thing up doesn't help.
Stop all testing
Like really. Even without PEDs someone from a big promotion who can afford all the modern nutrition and recovery is miles ahead of someone who has no access to such resources.
@@billmurphy3510Yeah sleep and food should be banned
That is such a dangerous thing. We need tests, people can get hurt badly.
@@DududududuSALIBA So let them all use not only the ones who can afford the team to hide it
Derick James needs to be banned as well đź
LIFE BAN
So Simon, Adam and co. believe that Garcia is an embarrassment to boxing and should be banned for PED cheating. I agree, and I assume that they also believe that Fury should have been banned for life for his PED cheating? Or do they believe Fury's 'wild boar meat' fairy tale? I'd love to hear Talk Sport's view on Fury's cheating so that I can decide if they are serious about PED cheating or just full of sh1t.
He already cheated by not bothering to make weight and there was too much money on the table for everyone to have the fight cancelled.
How can they not do it alone đ so what do most guys at the gym do? They do it aloneđ and most of the time pretend there nattyđ
He is innocent like connor bum
Ahhh so the act of calling out the illuminati was a preface to this, he took and he knew.
I hope there is drug testing for the jake Paul Tyson fight because jake looks juiced to the gills
Don't be stupid
A real lack of knowledge here, a trainer isnt responsible for what goes into the fighters body or what he does outside of the gym.
If you fail a drug test, you should be banned for life. Then, make a steriod allowed boxing league or whatever and have them continue in that.
Surprised aj wasnt popped for peds pretty obvious hes been on them just seems he has a better team to desl with it and help him avoid being caught
What are u on about!think u mean fury again
This is most ridiculous comment Iâve read in a long while
How in God's name did he not take them and his goin on like a fela that's on something.saudi will have him now I bet