Blow Off Valves Mythbusted

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  • čas přidán 7. 12. 2009
  • Will a blow off valve make your car faster? Can you install one on a non-turbo car? How do they work? All these questions answered and a whole lot more thanks to the Marty and Moog from Mighty Car Mods.
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  • @dylanstassen1058
    @dylanstassen1058 Před 8 lety +137

    In the good old 480p days, MCM was putting out these kinds of videos. Oh how far they've come.

    • @mraudiss
      @mraudiss Před 8 lety +4

      i miss the civic parody build.

    • @m.h.5400
      @m.h.5400 Před 5 lety +1

      and now, 2 years after your comment they made a car for, and played in a commercial.

    • @callumross406
      @callumross406 Před 4 lety +1

      They are still very good videos

    • @TotalySidYT
      @TotalySidYT Před 2 lety +4

      5 yrs ago loll

    • @tigerXgaming
      @tigerXgaming Před 2 lety

      @@TotalySidYT loool

  • @baymeosplit8537
    @baymeosplit8537 Před 9 lety +189

    HAHA that was funny. When I saw them put the battery in the backpack I thought we were going to see a running man with a BOV. lol

    • @Morecommon
      @Morecommon Před 9 lety +3

      Lolz me too haha

    • @michaelking42
      @michaelking42 Před 9 lety +4

      hahaha yeah that would have been funny!

    • @Morecommon
      @Morecommon Před 9 lety +2

      Michael King 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂

  • @bigtrucker26
    @bigtrucker26 Před 10 lety +221

    I note that they didn't actually list the reasons for a bov/bypass valve...
    It has nothing to do with dyno pulls.
    Use on a diesel would be pointless, as there is no valve to stop/restrict the airflow going into the intake ports of the motor, so there is no pressure wave to damage the turbo, or pop off the intake hoses. (Unless you are doing some ridiculous high speed load, and stopping the motor dead-in which case it won't last long anyway....)
    The bov/bypass valve was engineered to:
    1. Prevent pressure spikes from bending/folding the throttle plate.
    2. Prevent pressure spikes from back feeding the turbo compressor, acting as a brake, possibly bending fins, breaking the shaft between the turbine and compressor wheels...
    3. Slow the boost pressure drop (pre-throttle), so that you have the turbo still spun up as you shift the gears in hard acceleration.
    A BOV vents to atmosphere, this creates a momentary rich condition (you can get flames out the tip of the exhaust depending on setup), and requires almost no plumbing. As stated, this can also trigger computer diagnostics, and safety measures, depending on the complexity of the engine computer. This momentary rich condition can mimic that which you get with a carburetor.
    A Bypass valve, vents to the intake track pre boost device (turbo/supercharger/blower), but post air measurement (if so equipped). This allows the computer to have a better idea of how much air is in the system. And can allow a little (very minor) help in spinning a turbo. Also being that the air escape is part of the closed system, if there is a failure, and it sticks open, or the valve sealing fails, you don't have to worry about dirt and debris entering the intake system, or so much that unmetered air is entering exiting the system.
    Who should consider them?
    Those with motors than run boost and have throttle plates.
    What does it do?
    Decrease turbo lag, protect against damage from pressure spikes in boost motors with throttle plates.
    This comment requires no replies. It was likely stated earlier, but frankly I'm not wading through over three thousand comments, given the vitreal and spite I see in the first part of the comment list. This comment is not done in spite, but in education, for those that were hoping for facts.

    • @shaikasif8921
      @shaikasif8921 Před 5 lety +1

      ok

    • @patana256
      @patana256 Před 5 lety +13

      The real mvp

    • @1240Dax
      @1240Dax Před 5 lety +1

      They quite clearly said what their point was...

    • @Westley420
      @Westley420 Před 4 lety +4

      Your comment is much appreciated

    • @augnkn93043
      @augnkn93043 Před 4 lety +2

      "This comment requires no replies." OK, oh whoops...

  • @kitchenmaster907
    @kitchenmaster907 Před 4 lety +120

    me on recommended:
    youtube recommending me a 10 year old video:seems right

    • @pirat.paulie
      @pirat.paulie Před 2 lety

      Wow, i didn't saw, that is too old :D

  • @MistRVertexZ
    @MistRVertexZ Před 9 lety +1266

    why would you not want that stutututut sound?

    • @MrJakeyyy
      @MrJakeyyy Před 9 lety +134

      Sounds beautiful

    • @TheOnlyToblin
      @TheOnlyToblin Před 9 lety +197

      i am Viking turbo damage?

    • @MistRVertexZ
      @MistRVertexZ Před 9 lety +92

      Totally Legit Gaming [TLEG] it doesnt damage it, only wears it down a little faster, but its so little that it doesnt matter
      though a turbo surge, that would damage the turbo

    • @doverlabs
      @doverlabs Před 9 lety +57

      i am Viking turbo chatter = ruined turbines.

    • @MistRVertexZ
      @MistRVertexZ Před 9 lety +50

      pcfxer chatter? do you mean flutter?
      because then, No.
      Flutter doesnt mean broken turbo, my car flutters and the turbo is fine

  • @CNCmachiningisfun
    @CNCmachiningisfun Před 8 lety +565

    My horses have blow off valves, but I am perty sure none of them is fitted with a turbo ;) .

    • @CNCmachiningisfun
      @CNCmachiningisfun Před 8 lety +20

      *****
      It makes them go faster :) .

    • @securi-t
      @securi-t Před 8 lety +3

      +CNCmachiningisfun Put on a few decals for even more powah!

    • @CNCmachiningisfun
      @CNCmachiningisfun Před 8 lety +18

      *****
      The extra heat might cause a tail hair fire, especially if I feed them on high octane hay.

    • @CNCmachiningisfun
      @CNCmachiningisfun Před 8 lety +4

      Tony Tuite
      My horses like to look their best, so those decals ought to do the trick.
      Maybe I could add some go-faster strips too ;) .

    • @CNCmachiningisfun
      @CNCmachiningisfun Před 8 lety +3

      *****
      That,s cool, as I could use the spoiler as a work bench to hold my hoof care gear :) .
      Extra donkey power, and a mobile work bench on the farm, what could be finer?

  • @sneekydart7359
    @sneekydart7359 Před 4 lety +10

    Damn, i'd barely have been old enough to know what a turbo is when this was released and now it's been recommended by youtube so that I can enjoy it

  • @georgemahfood8743
    @georgemahfood8743 Před 9 lety +87

    Ok honestly the turbo flutter sound you get with no bov is one of the best automotive sounds out there let's be honest

    • @pave64
      @pave64 Před 8 lety +9

      +George Mahfood Absolutely agree! But if I understood it right, the sound is caused by air returning through intake. Now isn't it a bad thing for a turbo lifespan?

    • @georgemahfood8743
      @georgemahfood8743 Před 8 lety +5

      +pave64 I know it's really bad for a turbo over time but still the sound is amazing might not be worth the risk though

    • @christicristian06
      @christicristian06 Před 8 lety +1

      +George Mahfood Depends, if you have a high boost turbo, you might wear out the bearing but you need high boost. It's just air passing by, slowing down the compressor, so you will have a bit more lag when you shift and the response won't be so good. It's not bad for the turbo, it's worse when you have high boost and all that air can't flow throught the system and preasure builds up until something breaks.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety

      +Cristian Ceclan There is no noticeable in lag between running a BoV and not, also there are a lot of people running 40+psi with no BoV's and never having issues, it's very common in Australia for people not to run them.

    • @simoncorbett3003
      @simoncorbett3003 Před 8 lety

      thank heavens - an actual human with brains who doesn't feature on Springer !

  • @Kcwiro
    @Kcwiro Před 10 lety +430

    ...Love it...I'm going to put a BOV on my wife's vacuum cleaner..

  • @dosmastrify
    @dosmastrify Před 7 lety +73

    why the dyno with the blow-off valves? the guy just said they only matter when you let OFF the throttle. he said the valves are only ment to maintain spinup between shifts

    • @Insidious589
      @Insidious589 Před 7 lety +24

      Busting a myth.

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Před 7 lety +2

      ah copy that

    • @1magnit
      @1magnit Před 7 lety +6

      Because most factory BOVs are designed to leak at a certain pressure, they don't actually leak as such, they open at a preset pressure which is usually just above the factory boost spec. Not only that but factory valves are easily modified so that they hold boost and therefore you don't need to replace with an aftermarket valve..........but that's bad for business.

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Před 7 lety +2

      1magnit basically functioning the same as the valve (can't remember name) in diesels which you hear blowing off once it it toward the end of the gear? Cool thanks,

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Před 7 lety

      Darklord 4 yes?

  • @Zomb33
    @Zomb33 Před 2 lety +1

    I found this channel from their brz build. Bought a GLI a few days ago, was considering switching to a BOV, and stumbled upon this gem. It's amazing how much some things have changed and how some are exactly the same.

  • @magicstix0r
    @magicstix0r Před 8 lety +52

    Perhaps the only MCM episode where they rice a car...

    • @eoin730
      @eoin730 Před 8 lety +17

      trd lazer and civic build

    • @liamjones1383
      @liamjones1383 Před 8 lety +12

      BoV isn't rice. a Fake BoV is rice

    • @derstatiker1164
      @derstatiker1164 Před 8 lety +6

      +Liam jones but is it Rice to put a Real bov on a non Turbo car/bike?

  • @KironStrife
    @KironStrife Před 10 lety +278

    These dudes should work for Top Gear

    • @PBJPRODUCTIONSTUDIOS
      @PBJPRODUCTIONSTUDIOS Před 10 lety +41

      You mean to say , Top Gear should work for MCM ? :)

    • @Zuppzer
      @Zuppzer Před 10 lety +9

      PBJPRODUCTIONSTUDIOS No he didn't, fuck off. Top Gear has always been better, even 21 seasons ago. Oh, did I mention 21 seasons? Yeah. I did.

    • @tombax338
      @tombax338 Před 10 lety +34

      MLGBongHits dude chill

    • @Zuppzer
      @Zuppzer Před 10 lety

      tombax338 You chill, dude.

    • @tombax338
      @tombax338 Před 10 lety +3

      MLGBongHits ?

  • @Dunil
    @Dunil Před 11 lety +6

    That's what I was going to say. And actually, depending on your turbo setup, the type of BOV that you're using will actually make a difference. A recirculating blow off valve will help with surge between shifts but also allow you to keep your boost pressure up higher since it puts it back into the system. This surge that occurs when a BOV is not in place can cause a fuel enrichment issue and cause your vehicle to stall, but this is not always the case as it depends on the size of the turbo.

  • @bennylamera2559
    @bennylamera2559 Před rokem +1

    Still here and still enjoy the old skool videos like this 😄

  • @JamesLyles
    @JamesLyles Před 7 lety +2

    I may be 8 years late...but this is an excellent and creative video. BOV on a bike?!! A+ for originality.

  • @RIGeek.
    @RIGeek. Před 8 lety +175

    I have 5 BOVs on my non-turbo car. I picked up at least 100hp from each one. :-P

    • @MJLeWiZz
      @MJLeWiZz Před 8 lety +2

      Dammmmmn dude good shit

    • @RIGeek.
      @RIGeek. Před 8 lety +31

      I also have 3 intakes. One is cold air, the other warm air and then the ram air. I couldn't find any goat air intakes so the ram air will have to do for now.

    • @nazul9502
      @nazul9502 Před 8 lety

      +Marquise Lewis he was joking stupid...

    • @MJLeWiZz
      @MJLeWiZz Před 8 lety +9

      call me Naz fucking obviously you dumbass you obviously didn't see that my comment was just as much of a joke as his, your the stupid one you dumbass

    • @nazul9502
      @nazul9502 Před 8 lety +1

      Marquise Lewis yours isn't obvious. There are people that would mean that shit these days so yeah calm the fuck down

  • @LVL1Yo-YoGuy
    @LVL1Yo-YoGuy Před 8 lety +10

    you guys had tears coming out my eyes of laughter when you modified the bicycle.lol I'm subscribing.good job.

  • @arianewell6252
    @arianewell6252 Před 5 lety +1

    The first part was informative. Thanks for that. The second part about running on a non turbocharged was sill, but I suppose that was the point.

  • @the_apex_latino420
    @the_apex_latino420 Před 5 lety +1

    The sound of a blow off valve in a Subaru sounds amazing plus it saves your turbo for a bit longer which is always nice

  • @hallsy9756
    @hallsy9756 Před 9 lety +26

    recircing the BOV is very important if you are running a MAF before the turbo instead of a MAP in the manifold because if you release the air to atmosphere when running a MAF, then you are completely ruining your A/F ratio as you just vented air that the engine is expecting and dumping fuel for. Can have a big effect on 1/4 mile times as your A/F gets messed up for a second at each shift. can make for a nice flame thrower exhaust, though.

    • @Natedogg8922
      @Natedogg8922 Před 9 lety +5

      Exactly, I can't believe that they didn't cover this

    • @Snowhite808
      @Snowhite808 Před 9 lety

      ***** It is that bad. Especially on vag engines.
      To a point even, when they start boging and surgeing on gear change.
      Usually the diverter is set to open at certain level of boost - so should the BOV be - but many set it to too easy and that causes additional problems.

    • @XxAtomic646xX
      @XxAtomic646xX Před 9 lety

      if you have a good tuner, they can rescale your maf and it will act just as if your maf equipped car was converted to speed density

    • @hallsy9756
      @hallsy9756 Před 9 lety

      XxAtomic646xX well many aftermarket ecu's allow you to eliminate the maf and run a map sensor instead. (AEM being one that I've seen it done with), but that is an interesting idea that I hadn't heard of.

    • @XxAtomic646xX
      @XxAtomic646xX Před 9 lety

      Hallsy it's something we evo 8/9 guys do if we do want to go big turbo. Cause speed Density only shows gains on bigger than stock frame turbos

  • @KSE828
    @KSE828 Před 9 lety +15

    Damn near shit myself laughing at the end XD

  • @5punkybob
    @5punkybob Před 5 lety

    I forgot about this episode.. have me in stitches every time.

  • @Bloodsoldr
    @Bloodsoldr Před 8 lety

    still one of the most satisfying sounds ever

  • @stevesprojects5435
    @stevesprojects5435 Před 10 lety +5

    Holy shit, I'm gunna fit one to my wood chipper for sure! Coolest chipper on the block ;-)

  • @TheRguru1
    @TheRguru1 Před 7 lety +13

    dat engine movement doe....

  • @Tuukkis
    @Tuukkis Před 2 lety +2

    Moog: "let's forget it ever happened"
    Yet eleven years later, Moog reminded us about this nostalgic blow off valve video. Awesome.

  • @BushCampingTools
    @BushCampingTools Před 8 lety +1

    Well gotta support a great Aussie Production!

  • @BBROPHOTO
    @BBROPHOTO Před 3 lety +4

    Haha, oh man. I'm here from the most recent video of making the BRZ fast... and oh man have they come far 😂

  • @dsandoval9396
    @dsandoval9396 Před 8 lety +8

    "...and forget that it ever happened." LMAO!!!

  • @tectubedk
    @tectubedk Před 7 lety +2

    I think it is impresive that mcm is the only channel that have not improved production quality since 2009

  • @anthonycolon8974
    @anthonycolon8974 Před 6 lety

    That was awesome. When I saw you on the bike I could not contain my laughter

  • @atarparker
    @atarparker Před 8 lety +6

    I thought the benefit of a recirculation valve over a bov was seen by slightly quicker spool up AFTER the gear change?

    • @tgw230
      @tgw230 Před 2 lety

      Yes exactly, this is a crappy video, the whole statement is misleading about venting atmospherically versus diverting, because the power will be the same but what you gain by having a diverter valve is quicker throttle response because you're not losing that boost charge and needing to respool that boost charge from scratch so to speak. So the test should not be total power output but rather throttle response right after a gear shift (when you step off the gas in the course of a shift)

  • @JonEvans818
    @JonEvans818 Před 8 lety +8

    With a circulated blow off valve, wouldn't you get up to psi faster? Since all the air is being kept in a closed loop system?

    • @docwylee1891
      @docwylee1891 Před 7 lety +3

      Faster doenst always mean more power on a dyno. If your bov is dumping too much air between shifts you would effectively be killing the efficiency of your spool. Re-circulation aims not to do that by dumping vented air back into the intake system. How much faster.. its hard to say but i would be willing to bet that a recirc car with identical driver conditions will perform better than a poorly selected all for noise vent to atmosphere set up.

    • @docwylee1891
      @docwylee1891 Před 4 lety

      local tourist yea there is no one size fits all you’ll need to dial springs weights and settings for your set up but you could be right in some setups it could vary I was speaking more overall

    • @docwylee1891
      @docwylee1891 Před 4 lety

      @local tourist I think Diesel turbo systems operate differently. Honestly, I dont have any experience there but my guess is they are different in some degree. Tinkering is key finding that sweet spot

  • @DaPurppzz
    @DaPurppzz Před 9 lety

    almost 1 mil subs. Congratz

  • @MiguelAngel-ir3wq
    @MiguelAngel-ir3wq Před 9 lety

    its all about the sound dude!

  • @FurkanCemTurfanda
    @FurkanCemTurfanda Před 7 lety +133

    Everything sounds better with an Australian accent.

  • @billybobkeith9147
    @billybobkeith9147 Před 9 lety +5

    The end is hilarious. xD

  • @myskman1
    @myskman1 Před 9 lety

    This is the very first episode of MCM I watched 3 years ago.

  • @niklaslyssi5749
    @niklaslyssi5749 Před 2 lety

    QUALITY IS INSANE

  • @ItzRetz
    @ItzRetz Před 8 lety +263

    The reason I want a turbocharged car is FOR that 'stutututu' sound. Why would I want to get rid of it?

    • @LuisRamirez-bu6qw
      @LuisRamirez-bu6qw Před 8 lety +85

      because it ruins your turbo and it decreases its life span.

    • @ItzRetz
      @ItzRetz Před 8 lety +28

      Luis Ramirez But by how much? If it makes my turbo last for 3 years instead of 4, I'd still leave it without a blow off valve.

    • @rtfly193
      @rtfly193 Před 8 lety +129

      +Retz If you're breaking turbos every four years, you might be doing it wrong.

    • @ItzRetz
      @ItzRetz Před 8 lety +13

      Ryan Thompson That was an example, I was asking how long that one lasts.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety +39

      +Retz Ignore the people who say it will ruin your turbo, there really is no proof that it does any noticeable damage over its life span.

  • @RenatosilvaMinis-Games
    @RenatosilvaMinis-Games Před 7 lety +3

    bom dia sou do BRASIL procuro a muito tempo um barulho de carro turbo para meu carro meu carro nao e turbo gostei muito desta forma que vcs fes este carro nao e turbo nao ne ???
    mas um escrito curti pra caramba esta para vlw. ..

    • @Thonglover37
      @Thonglover37 Před 3 lety

      English esto dificil para voce ? Merda ... Idiota

  • @njalvino
    @njalvino Před 8 lety

    Very informative. Thank you very much!

  • @Robert-vp6xf
    @Robert-vp6xf Před 7 lety

    Awesome job guys. Great way to answer keyboard slappers.

  • @hamdanalharbi2206
    @hamdanalharbi2206 Před 8 lety +12

    is it this guy who worked on waaaSaabi?

    • @jjs9672
      @jjs9672 Před 8 lety +16

      Yes. And the guy who worked on 2sexy

    • @DigBipper188
      @DigBipper188 Před 7 lety

      Wasaabi, 20053XY and the 180SX they've been working on just recently. And of course, there are more...

  • @Gothicwoodcraft
    @Gothicwoodcraft Před 10 lety +3

    Any turbocharging system has a wastegate which relieves the excess pressure. Just because they don't sound cool doesn't mean they are not there.

  • @brianbairos101
    @brianbairos101 Před 9 lety

    omg i havent laughed that hard from a youtube video EVER! Great video I cant believe I just saw it now!

  • @ran97396
    @ran97396 Před 10 lety +6

    lmfao when he pulled out the bike

  • @89Interceptor
    @89Interceptor Před 10 lety +9

    blow off valves arent going to give you more power
    if anything theyre just going to improve your shift quality and/or protect your manifold from high pressure

  • @hitman53184
    @hitman53184 Před 10 lety +18

    Pay more for insurance? I pay less for my 2015 WRX than I did with my Ram 2500 HEMI or even my 2013 Tacoma. I believe i was about $20 less than the Ram but only $6 less than the Tacoma.

    • @Ancyker
      @Ancyker Před 9 lety +1

      With full coverage, $500 deductibles, going from a 2014 Mirage (i3, 1.2L, 74hp, 0-60 in 12 seconds) to a 2014 evo (i4, 2.0L w/turbo, 290hp, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds)... insurance went up almost $40, from $105 to $141. My 2011 Camaro was $130. It's more, but fairly insignificant when you consider the cost of the cars (Mirage 13k, Camaro 27k, Evo 40k).

    • @hitman53184
      @hitman53184 Před 9 lety

      Ancyker damn that sucks. My ram was a $60k truck so that could be why it cost so much. However i still pay less than i did with the Tacoma, which i find odd. Too many variables are taken into account with insurance. Its retarded.

    • @Fireblaze15
      @Fireblaze15 Před 9 lety +4

      *****
      Tacoma drivers are often going offroad more than dodge trucks lol.

    • @hitman53184
      @hitman53184 Před 9 lety +5

      Fireblaze15 yea i took my Tacoma down more trails than the ram. Mainly due to the fact that it could actually fit without hitting a tree.

    • @TylerRaber
      @TylerRaber Před 9 lety

      ***** or the fact that the Tacoma is actually built for that.

  • @roadtrip1098
    @roadtrip1098 Před 9 lety +2

    Recirc valves are very important on some cars, specifically ones that use the MAF to determine how much air is in the intake system and adjust fueling proportionally. If the blow off valve lets the air out, but the fuel still gets dumped in, you can run extremely rich, which will then cause the short term fuel trim to lean out. Then you get back on the throttle, run lean, blow your motor, and blame it on the tune.

  • @LeeVai666
    @LeeVai666 Před 9 lety

    this info is awesome and completely relevant to my vehicle, i just got an audi tt and it shares the same motor as the gti.

  • @OnTarget19
    @OnTarget19 Před 9 lety +235

    If You try to put a BOV on a non turbo car because you want the sound, you're a poser.

    • @LiveToRidee
      @LiveToRidee Před 9 lety +34

      but my moped has a blow off valve am i a poser?

    • @robertramirez222
      @robertramirez222 Před 9 lety +9

      Colin Heasley so if you put a blow off valve on a supercharged car they're a grimp? smh

    • @BruceWayneSantos
      @BruceWayneSantos Před 9 lety +18

      R Weber I am getting a 2013 Scion FRS and Putting a Greddy BOV on it...aw shucks does that mean I am a poser?...ah well who gives a shit my car sounds awesome! Fuck you bruh! =D

    • @OnTarget19
      @OnTarget19 Před 9 lety +13

      Charlie Santos if it's naturally aspirated, yes.

    • @steekle7
      @steekle7 Před 9 lety +2

      LiveToRide nice gsxr, bruh

  • @Vontharau47
    @Vontharau47 Před 9 lety +5

    Dude lookin like Hugh Grant's younger brother, lol :D

  • @Tactical.chocolate
    @Tactical.chocolate Před 7 lety

    i love your guys work. can you do a video on targa tops?

  • @thanakislupusthesaltywolve7208

    Hey great video you guys are doing a good job keep up the good work my question is do you have to rebuild your motor to install a turbo or will it hold the extra pressure on a Mazda Protege5 2.0 liter

  • @LostMiddleEarth
    @LostMiddleEarth Před 9 lety +9

    105kw =140bhp. The 1.8 turbo (im guessing engine code AGU judging by the cable throttle) sould be running 150 bhp even without a tune. Something isn't quite right there

    • @Ancyker
      @Ancyker Před 9 lety +5

      Every dyno loads differently, you can only compare dyno results against results from the same dyno.

    • @Gefrce
      @Gefrce Před 9 lety

      That's Volkswagens stock number, Isn't it measured at the crank? 150 official horsepower are probably around 120-130 IRL

    • @MrGencyExit64
      @MrGencyExit64 Před 9 lety +8

      You don't measure *bhp* on a dyno like that. You measure *_whp_*, which is after probably a _15% loss_ due to transmission. You can either adjust the bhp measure for drivetrain loss or add 15% to the whp number the dyno read out. If you do that, the numbers seem consistent (about a 11 bhp gain).

    • @MiraSubieGirl
      @MiraSubieGirl Před 6 lety +1

      Oh I figured it out, its a piece of shit who knows what its lost or gained in its horrible life.

  • @securi-t
    @securi-t Před 8 lety +8

    I can't believe all the people who want the turbo flutter sound. To me, it's right up there with knocking rods, piston slap, and maladjusted valve lash. It's the sound of failing parts.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety +6

      +Tony Tuite But it's not parts failing, if it does cause any damage then it's so small you wouldn't even notice it over the life span on the turbo, plenty of people not running a bov for years without issue.

    • @securi-t
      @securi-t Před 8 lety +2

      Sorry, but you're wrong. Take my Holset HX35 for example. It has an 83mm diameter exducer. Converted to inches, that's a diameter of around 3.25", or 1.625" radius. Take Pi*1.625^2=~8.29 inch surface area. I am running 21 psi of boost. Now take 21*8.29=174 pounds of thrust load slamming into your compressor wheel every time you shift. That will quickly add up to permanent damage to your thrust washers and bearings, not to mention your compressor wheel over time. Add in the effect of this Shockwave exerting reverse force on the turbo, and that is a lot of damage fast. You may get away longer on a small turbo, but if your making real power you need a BOV.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety +4

      Tony Tuite Your numbers don't mean shit, in the real world it really doesn't matter, not to mention they are designed to take that kind of load.
      " You may get away longer on a small turbo, but if your making real power you need a BOV."
      In Australia and Japan it is very common for people not to run BoV's (especially in the VL turbo and drifting scenes), including people making well over 1000hp without issue.

    • @securi-t
      @securi-t Před 8 lety +2

      +DriftNick Ignorance of math and engineering doesn't make you right. Do what you want. I'll keep my car running for the next 5-10 years.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety +4

      Tony Tuite You know what makes me right? the countless people who don't run BoV's and haven't for many years without issue, your math doesn't mean anything, your wrong about the amount of load it would be hitting the compressor, it's not as simple as the size of the surface area times the boost and all the load wouldn't just be hitting the compressor.
      so yea I will do what a want and for some reason I think my turbo will be just fine like it has been for the last 5 years.

  • @alexsheffield5991
    @alexsheffield5991 Před 9 lety

    That bov on moogs bike is just to funny! lol These guys are hillarious!

  • @MrMambott
    @MrMambott Před 5 lety

    Nice explanation and good explanation on why its good to NOT let all the pressure out and not starting from empty ,,Lads need to know its NOT all about noise when it comes to performance : )

  • @trakovich
    @trakovich Před 8 lety +28

    Australia is such pain in the ass, for car people.

    • @aramisdnivra
      @aramisdnivra Před 8 lety

      huh, why is that?

    • @trakovich
      @trakovich Před 8 lety +15

      +Aramis D'Nivra so much laws and rules to cripple car enthusiasts from doing most modifications, if you have turbo car. ooohh jesus 3 out of 5 police cars will stop you for no reason hoping to find slightly wrong fitments just to defect your car. also every price for service and related things becomes expensive 😞.

    • @aramisdnivra
      @aramisdnivra Před 8 lety

      +Ryizer kovich oh bummer :( i was hoping australia would be an awesome place for car enthusiasts. Can you service your own car over there or is it illegal?

    • @trakovich
      @trakovich Před 8 lety +1

      +Aramis D'Nivra some states had a little easier rules and laws but I think you can service you car yourself but someone has to write the papers for you to validate that the car is road worthy .. But im only talking about Sydney nsw not sure about other states

    • @PeterDavey
      @PeterDavey Před 8 lety +3

      You can service your own car, you only need to get your car re-inspected if you've made modifications.

  • @gentry6451
    @gentry6451 Před 10 lety +8

    *****, that's pretty weird that you have "triple valve springs" in a car with no valves! The RX-7 has a 13B Wankel Rotary engine, so I was just wondering where you managed to install your valve springs at!

    • @earlmcnulty4665
      @earlmcnulty4665 Před 10 lety +4

      lol i laughed pretty hard after reading his comment, i rebuilt like 3 rotary engines and I was like uh what now lol

  • @DomHolmes
    @DomHolmes Před 10 lety

    Great video. I expect the Golf is going to be throwing fault codes though with an atmospheric dump valve. The ECU expects the air to be returned to the inlet like the stanrdard re-circ.

  • @kane401nz5
    @kane401nz5 Před 4 lety

    Man MCM has grown so much

  • @TerryFT86
    @TerryFT86 Před 8 lety +4

    err... i thought blow off value is to help with the response when u on/off/on gas again....dyno is the wrong way to test it isn't it? ... >___>

  • @TheDrinkingStuff
    @TheDrinkingStuff Před 6 lety +6

    I replaced my blow off valve with a modified egg but it broke

  • @Arcqueid
    @Arcqueid Před 10 lety

    You guys are AWESOME!

  • @JS-ed2hg
    @JS-ed2hg Před 5 lety +1

    I just traded my 2011 Ford Taurus SHO for a 2015 with 10 * more bells and whistles. I was looking at getting a new one since they are discontinued which happened in the past but then they were brought back. Jesus with a credit score of around 780 I was looking at just over $700 a month. I make $29.96 an hour so the money is pretty good but no way could I make a $700 a month car payment LOL. I just really love the sho's it's a fast car but does not raise your insurance. I really wanted to swap out the factory valves with vent to atmosphere unfortunately that would really lower the performance. I wish I could find the ones I was looking at as they recirculated but managed to vent to atmosphere without impacting performance. Great video as usual!

  • @TripoliVegas
    @TripoliVegas Před 9 lety +5

    The reason I have a recirculating BOV on my Subaru is to help maintain boost between shifts, because of my larger aftermarket turbo. I think atmospheric BOVs are stupid and solely for an annoying high pitched purge sound. Obviously it's to blow off the massive surge pressure from the turbo, but be smart and use that surge pressure to hold boost with a recirculating bov

    • @kcolley42
      @kcolley42 Před 5 lety

      TripoliVegas how’d that bigger turbo work out in your scooby?

  • @raidkoast
    @raidkoast Před 8 lety +12

    What i hate is when some people put those damn whistles on their blow off valve, sound silly as hell.

    • @modwlego
      @modwlego Před 8 lety

      I wonder if they make horns that sound like human screams...
      BrrrrrRRRRRRR*cshh-AHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh*

    • @raidkoast
      @raidkoast Před 8 lety +2

      modwlego lol at least that'd sound better than the normal wimp whistles.

    • @delatte93
      @delatte93 Před 8 lety

      +raidkoast my friend has his on his intake pipe custom fit opf course his is an automatic transmission and im just like what ever

    • @TheDarthSoldier
      @TheDarthSoldier Před 7 lety

      I like to add a duck call to my BOV so whenever it goes off it goes quack

    • @al_ua6
      @al_ua6 Před 7 lety +1

      Lol Darth, did we see the same video of the guy's turbo Civic where he installed a duck-call on his BOV?

  • @snobdobbler2952
    @snobdobbler2952 Před 8 lety

    I love your comedy show. I especially like the challenged of translating Aussie into the Queen's English.

  • @zainm.cheema7359
    @zainm.cheema7359 Před 3 lety

    Love it!!!!!!!
    sad that I only found this in freaking 2020....Glad I did though.

  • @sethv-k4884
    @sethv-k4884 Před 9 lety +13

    They should make one for my underwear..
    So when i am walking down the isle
    at the store and i Fart it will go pssssssss tututututu..

  • @inspire_greatness7464
    @inspire_greatness7464 Před 8 lety +3

    SO FUNNY THESE GUYS.....MYTH BUSTERS FOR CARS

  • @jmatthew8912
    @jmatthew8912 Před 6 lety

    You guys crack me up! Only just started watching your work, great stuff! If you ever need an English guy with a corsa vxr let me know :-)

  • @simracinglou3142
    @simracinglou3142 Před 8 lety

    definitely getting one for my bike!

  • @Freakschwimmer
    @Freakschwimmer Před 8 lety +5

    9:10 LOL, Pushbike? Aussie for bicycle?

  • @ShitboxShenanigans
    @ShitboxShenanigans Před 10 lety +16

    hold up. all a blow off valve does is get rid of boost, which helps not put any stress on the motor after you get on it and build up boost with a turbo, im not sure they come on super chargers. on a pro stock pulling tractor, they use them to get rid of the boost thats 40+ lbs. it doesnt give you anymore power in a car. just makes tuners sound "cool"

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 10 lety +10

      Blow off valves don't do anything on throttle as they are closed till there is vacuum (off throttle), you might be confusing it with the wastegate which bypasses exhaust gasses around the exhaust to limit the boost it makes.

    • @ShitboxShenanigans
      @ShitboxShenanigans Před 10 lety

      yea, i just dont know how to explain it well. haha

    • @timoliver9228
      @timoliver9228 Před 9 lety +1

      equoowe They are closed until off throttle, but its the pressure or spike thats opens them. No vacuum.

    • @SidewaysGts
      @SidewaysGts Před 9 lety +2

      Tim Oliver "They are closed until off throttle, but its the pressure or spike thats opens them. No vacuum."
      One side of the blow off valve is connected to the intake manifold. When you close the throttle a vacuum is formed between the throttle and the intake valves. This vacuum is is what allows the diaphragm inside the blow off valve to be actuated- Its both pulled by this vacuum, and pushed by the boost- But it is the vacuum that allows this action to occur in the first place (more specifically its the pressure differential, but i digress)

    • @K8yM0n
      @K8yM0n Před 9 lety

      SidewaysGts hit the nail on the head.
      Although it really depends on the setup, whether or not boost assist the vacuum. Several manufacturers, mostly european, use strictly vacuum on recirculating valves.

  • @Gkitchens1
    @Gkitchens1 Před 7 lety

    This is the greatest video on the Internet. Period.

  • @lansonfloyd
    @lansonfloyd Před 9 lety +1

    Man at 1:42, he really nailed the sound of turbo flutter. Hard to describe without making the noise, lol.

  • @RemoteChicken12
    @RemoteChicken12 Před 9 lety +4

    9:06 White S15?

  • @cdas6673
    @cdas6673 Před 10 lety +11

    too funny!

  • @markmemory3733
    @markmemory3733 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing. I hope others in 2020 followed the link and watched this vid.

  • @TheTyisawesome
    @TheTyisawesome Před 3 lety

    Woke up this morning wondering if my BOV would still work installed on my air intake, essentially releasing the intake pressure when you let off haha, video confirmed it can be done!

    • @Wolfzed
      @Wolfzed Před rokem

      Does it make the sound?

  • @robstyles5002
    @robstyles5002 Před 10 lety +4

    i like it when they were ripping up the blow off valve machine! to many ricers got excited!

  • @AmericanThunder
    @AmericanThunder Před 8 lety +15

    I wish they would set up mandatory car classes in schools, so every single person who drives a car would have a basic understanding of them. It would make it a lot less painful to talk to people about the subject.

    • @Imaboss8ball
      @Imaboss8ball Před 8 lety +3

      so because you know stuff about cars everyone else has to too?

    • @AmericanThunder
      @AmericanThunder Před 8 lety +3

      David Serrano Dude. Either they should know something about what they're talking about, or they should ask questions and not make statements as if they know something. It would be the same as if I went and searched out knitting videos on youtube and then I suddenly decided that I am some kind of knitting expert and started making comments. All the old ladies would get tired of that shit in a hurry and they'd tear my head off. Who could blame them? lol
      Humans..

    • @Imaboss8ball
      @Imaboss8ball Před 8 lety +1

      the best way to learn is by making mistakes simple as that. sure questions are fine too, but they would only ask a question if they knew they were wrong. so if you don't have the patience to talk to someone who is learning then you would be the one with the problem.
      Americans...

    • @AmericanThunder
      @AmericanThunder Před 8 lety

      David Serrano lol ok.

    • @joeroux5178
      @joeroux5178 Před 8 lety +1

      +David Serrano do you want to drive a car? do you drive a car? Do you know anything about the thing you gonne spend 1/3 of your life in? Get a clue

  • @rczzcool234
    @rczzcool234 Před 7 lety +1

    blow off valve is by far my favorite ricer mod

  • @christopherselleck5256

    very informative thanks Gentleman for the video... Could you answer a question please.The video talks od the sound do,,do,do,do,do with air passing back though the turbo .This is a pair of finger eaters , eaters the most insane sound ...Would this set up damage the turbo..?

  • @Dingle182
    @Dingle182 Před 9 lety +13

    The big question now is...
    Will it fit my honda?

  • @ChiggyChiggyChiggy
    @ChiggyChiggyChiggy Před 9 lety +7

    Recirculated BOVs don't add power, therefore not making your car faster... Just like how lowering your car doesn't add power.
    Come on, there's more to speed than just power. Recirculation holds the boost, keeping the compressor ready for the next shift.

  • @zlothra
    @zlothra Před 6 lety +2

    Dang, haven't seen this intro in so long. Crazy it's from 2009, 9 years ago

  • @AhuCJ
    @AhuCJ Před 4 lety +1

    Damn it's been 10 years. Good old 480p days

  • @ThePSNOfficial
    @ThePSNOfficial Před 9 lety +32

    Will this blow off valve fit on my honda? (Mighty car mods joke)

  • @hawesbob5
    @hawesbob5 Před 9 lety +66

    I only want the pssssssss tututututu

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Před 8 lety +5

      +Bainanaz Even a factory turbo running stock boost will make the sound, of course more boost or a bigger turbo will be louder, also metal air intake into the turbo makes it louder to.

    • @MNblown2v
      @MNblown2v Před 6 lety

      you guys do know this sound is bad? running a lot of boost and not having a BOV will make that sound.. oh wait it'll blow your turbo eventually also.

    • @melaniearnol6336
      @melaniearnol6336 Před 6 lety +1

      Cole Zormeier no it won’t

    • @Mesh3432
      @Mesh3432 Před 6 lety

      DriftNick I know I sound stupid and weird... Is it possible to get the psst shututu sound in a non turbo car..? ( and yeah it's a bit low powered car I meant it's 1.2 - 1.5L petrol engine.

    • @kdog5471
      @kdog5471 Před 6 lety

      Mesh 3432 nah

  • @jeremyalmquist27
    @jeremyalmquist27 Před 6 lety

    1:49 I could listen to this guy talk about cars all day

  • @jerrynotgerry
    @jerrynotgerry Před 9 lety

    you guys are ridiculously hilarious! thank you

  • @whereisbenzo
    @whereisbenzo Před 9 lety +7

    But Subaru NEED recirculating ones or else they run rich.

    • @juggnautbitch
      @juggnautbitch Před 9 lety +1

      Not if tuned properly.

    • @2slovak0
      @2slovak0 Před 9 lety

      go rotated, cobb, tial external WG and blowoff valve.....peoples faces when they hear the waste gate scream.....

  • @kevinmonahan2820
    @kevinmonahan2820 Před 10 lety +5

    That was stupid. You will not gain or lose power with a bov. A recirculator will simply allow the turbo to spool faster after a shift because that air is rerouted to before the turbo rather than venting to atmosphere. And the reason you run rich after putting a bov on is because on a system that uses a maf sensor the ecu is injecting fuel for the air you just let out into the atmosphere. You will only run rich for a split second after getting back on the throttle. The only way to get around that is to delete your maf sensor and only base idc's off of a map sensor.

    • @smgs921
      @smgs921 Před 10 lety +1

      Actually on a VW using a BOV will lose power. They use diverter valves instead. The BOV loses pressure dropping boost after a gear change AKA when it opens up

    • @kevinmonahan2820
      @kevinmonahan2820 Před 10 lety +2

      Obviously you didnt understand what I said. You will NOT lose power. Your engine will make the same amount of power with a bov, bpv, or no valve at all. Bov's have no affect whatsoever on power. You will lose spool time after lifting off the throttle then getting on it again.

  • @davebenedict7986
    @davebenedict7986 Před 8 lety

    I was surprised at how much the GTI engine rocked while going though the gears. Maybe a test or two on different engine mounts?
    On Mark I Rabbits/Jettas, the hot thing was to install a poly front motor mount. I even did it on a diesel. On Ford's Taurus (1999-2007) using a short length of 3/8" link chain tied and bolted around the mount and to the subframe kept the engine from rocking.

  • @Subeffulgent
    @Subeffulgent Před 7 lety

    that's one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time