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  • The Times Chief Sports Reported Martyn Ziegler joins White & Jordan to break down the allegations being aimed at Man City today about financial irregularities at the club and charges brought forward towards them by the Premier League! Should Man City face expulsion from the league?!
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  • @erikarzensek
    @erikarzensek Před rokem +186

    Keown on his 5th crossword puzzle.. unstoppable

    • @saxon885
      @saxon885 Před rokem +12

      😂😂 brilliant

    • @bestthinger
      @bestthinger Před rokem +3

      1 across - Man City's 2024 season division (6,3) L_A_U_ -T_O

    • @fasher69
      @fasher69 Před rokem +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @muttley00
      @muttley00 Před rokem +2

      That just gets funnier and funnier the more you watch.😂

    • @chiefnkosi7705
      @chiefnkosi7705 Před rokem +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @bottymcbotface007
    @bottymcbotface007 Před rokem +120

    Haaland is gonna set CRAZY records in league 2!!

    • @aor3220
      @aor3220 Před rokem +3

      Lmao 🤣 very good

    • @forsakenV12
      @forsakenV12 Před rokem +1

      He will leave 😆

    • @ravd8082
      @ravd8082 Před 3 měsíci

      THE owner has been the main sponsor all along😂😂

  • @MrRogerWild
    @MrRogerWild Před rokem +58

    I think where city has a major problem is not down to some financial irregularities over one or two years, it’s the fact there has been continual breaches over 14 consecutive years showing a blatant disregard for any financial fair play rules 🤔

    • @daleviker5884
      @daleviker5884 Před rokem +2

      It's not a fact, it's an allegation. I will be stunned if any of these allegations stick in a proper court. Low IQ fans of other clubs will be cheering, but sober minds will be realizing that if these allegations aren't rock solid, then it might be the PL that is facing trouble.

    • @thefool5302
      @thefool5302 Před rokem +11

      @@daleviker5884 so you actually believe that city generate the biggest revenue in world football with their MASSIVE fanbase ?

    • @randomuser78
      @randomuser78 Před rokem +1

      @@thefool5302 just ignore those prats, lol man city can never in life cross man u liverpool real barca bayern in popularity fanbase, revenue can never be matched...they have always bought, thats not history

    • @mrbossman6811
      @mrbossman6811 Před rokem

      @@randomuser78they’re not crossing Arsenal either

    • @stevegriffey8255
      @stevegriffey8255 Před rokem

      @@daleviker5884 Over 100 charges kinda points to fact though doesn’t it. It’s not like it’s a one-off case. I can’t see how they can avoid any penalty for that many charges, unless more dodgey under-the-table dealings occur.

  • @markrobinson1369
    @markrobinson1369 Před rokem +74

    Luton got -30 points for a few errors, the new owners even told the FA what the previous owners had done. We were ruined by the FA, But bounced back

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Před rokem +8

      Aye but as a Derby fan it's a different rulebook for us, we can't threaten to breakaway into an ESL like these clubs can

    • @Hercules003
      @Hercules003 Před rokem +2

      @@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Without Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, United, ESL won't want to take City on its own anyways lmao

    • @JBLancs
      @JBLancs Před rokem +2

      Luton were one of the best teams in the old 1st division when I was younger when they played on the plastic pitch with the Steins brothers & plenty more cracking players.

    • @buffalosowljah373
      @buffalosowljah373 Před rokem

      @@JBLancs if your talking about the 80s i remember the stein brothers ,,the league cup against arsenal was one of their magic moments

  • @Drewtheelder
    @Drewtheelder Před rokem +611

    The smaller clubs like Swindon, Derby and others get hammered but just watch as City buy their way out of this.

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Před rokem +22

      Was just saying the same to some friends who want to see justice done. But sad reality is that the more money is involved the less likely it is that the right thing will be done, and the Premier League is swimming in it

    • @Drewtheelder
      @Drewtheelder Před rokem +6

      @@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Ain't that the truth.

    • @dzimujikambarage9784
      @dzimujikambarage9784 Před rokem +12

      Funny how FIFA had "no idea" about all of this

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 Před rokem +9

      Unfortunately, I think you are right that English football will chicken out. The game is about lucrative entertainment first, and a fair playing sport second. Swindon, Derby could get hammered without negatively impacting the big money making machine. But sending City down to play Championship might negatively impact FA revenues, while costing millions in lawyers fees immediately as City drags everything out and appeals.
      If these charges are proven, IMO City should be sent down to League 1, so they will be out of the PL for two years.

    • @sagatlike3393
      @sagatlike3393 Před rokem

      @@dzimujikambarage9784 They did just fifas ffa has time restrains for this sort of stuff and city$ lawyers wiggle the clup out of it with only 10mil greenqueens fine.

  • @GokulAnanth
    @GokulAnanth Před rokem +647

    All 30 of us City fans are very worried

  • @ricardosp7975
    @ricardosp7975 Před rokem +8

    Having watched numerous lower league clubs punished for comparatively minor financial issues with huge point deductions, and some clubs having to fold, it just seems wrong that Premier League clubs seem to get away with financial misconduct. It just shows the widening gap between the Premier League (AKA English Super League) and the EFL. And I just wonder where all this will end. This is not the game I grew up loving. I think that's long since lost and will never be recovered.

  • @nathanieldrew
    @nathanieldrew Před rokem +29

    Notice how there are no Man City fans even here to defend the club.

    • @tazzatamania
      @tazzatamania Před rokem +8

      You should have finished that sentence after the word 'fans'

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead Před rokem

      They hardly have any

    • @shuayb9210
      @shuayb9210 Před 11 měsíci

      They will say we are innocent or the charges will amount to small punishment. They think their dads own the league. They do forget that Premier league is privately owned by 20 members club. 😂

    • @77gazw
      @77gazw Před 4 měsíci

      Comedy gold tbh😂 everyone wet their pants over the euro ban last time but yet here we are champs of Europe😂 talksport forgetting one big thing. Evidence

  • @thejugde859
    @thejugde859 Před rokem +371

    Wenger was talking about this madness for years and everyone called him bitter. Last laugh and all that.

    • @virulentviscount123
      @virulentviscount123 Před rokem +67

      The Professor was never wrong about what likes of Chelsea and Man City could do to English game. Cheats. Classless small clubs

    • @terrenusvitae
      @terrenusvitae Před rokem +52

      Sooner or later Monsier Wenger is always proven correct.

    • @WorldCupWillie
      @WorldCupWillie Před rokem +6

      I was more concerned about Wenger's visits to Thailand with mark Lawrenson.

    • @QuentinMajor
      @QuentinMajor Před rokem +5

      >parsenal fans trying to shoehorn penger into everything
      Kek. Still won't win him the UCL

    • @theedentertainment9717
      @theedentertainment9717 Před rokem

      @@QuentinMajor shut up you punk. As if citey has won anything

  • @DJFAmenHeavy
    @DJFAmenHeavy Před rokem +974

    Swindon Town were demoted by 2 divisions in the early nineties for financial irregularities. Let’s see if the big boys have to play by the same rules…

    • @Jay_Mason
      @Jay_Mason Před rokem +132

      Footie is corrupt buddy, justice won't be served. Its a joke

    • @michaelcain721
      @michaelcain721 Před rokem

      Will never happen, they’ll get a few millions fined and everyone will forget all about it

    • @Graziak5
      @Graziak5 Před rokem +72

      Guarantee they will get some pathetic points deduction and a fine. They don’t have the balls to do anything else

    • @Nozylatten
      @Nozylatten Před rokem +2

      @@Graziak5 Why though what would man city do to the premier league lol?

    • @garytomas5411
      @garytomas5411 Před rokem +37

      Not a chance m8 the big 6 have different rules to the rest of us can only hope the premier league grow some and relegate them

  • @naville82
    @naville82 Před rokem +3

    They need to investigate Chelsea & PSG too! These teams have definitely bent the rules and most definitely broken them.

  • @diehard21000
    @diehard21000 Před rokem +18

    I wonder how many goals haland will get in the national League next season It will be interesting to see him play at grounds like Yeovil....

    • @buffalosowljah373
      @buffalosowljah373 Před rokem +2

      would he cope on those bumpy/muddy pitches tho 😂😂

    • @iohnxxxx
      @iohnxxxx Před rokem +1

      @@buffalosowljah373 he will enjoy the cider

    • @JackSpank9049
      @JackSpank9049 Před rokem +1

      He should come to Eastleigh 🤣

  • @owls1992
    @owls1992 Před rokem +444

    Looking forward to Wrexham vs Man City in league 2 next season.

    • @maleekgeechi7960
      @maleekgeechi7960 Před rokem +10

      Wrexham will need to play Deadpool in d@ game just to survive d@ attack...lol

    • @temporaryuseraccount0012
      @temporaryuseraccount0012 Před rokem +8

      ​@@maleekgeechi7960 Well presumably, if Man City were expelled from the league, their owners would also have been deemed to have been "unfit and improper" and will be forced to also sell the club. i.e. no more UAE bankrolling.

    • @maleekgeechi7960
      @maleekgeechi7960 Před rokem +3

      @@temporaryuseraccount0012 as a united fan...we will like to have Haaland when da Sale starts please

    • @squirrel7t7
      @squirrel7t7 Před rokem

      Back where they belong

    • @jimmy2minutes
      @jimmy2minutes Před rokem +1

      @maleekgeechi7960 you don't realise. They may go bust. They will have to off load the whole team. No more SKY money, no more premier money. No more Europe. And the glory fans walk away. But that won't happen. They will get a telling off.

  • @H0ldThat
    @H0ldThat Před rokem +427

    I find it fascinating how City claim to earn more Commercial Money than United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barca, Real, etc. I hand on heart have NEVER met a City fan in real life in my 20 years of existence😂

    • @anthonygarcia3922
      @anthonygarcia3922 Před rokem +28

      Yeah that's a lie lmao

    • @George-bi8sj
      @George-bi8sj Před rokem +17

      I'm guessing you live outside the UK then. Granted, most Man City fans are from Manchester, but you'll meet Mancs around the country, its one of the biggest Cities in the UK.

    • @theHURRENATOR
      @theHURRENATOR Před rokem +41

      @@George-bi8sj I’ve never met a city fan anywhere other than a few in a pub in manny

    • @pabloes588
      @pabloes588 Před rokem +19

      I’ve met a few most are just drug dealers from the rough part 😂

    • @andywilliams8540
      @andywilliams8540 Před rokem +26

      @@George-bi8sj i live near London and know loads of Arsenal, Spurs, Utd, Liverpool, West Ham and even Everton etc. Never met a City fan. Don't know many Chelsea fans either, just saying.

  • @SergioRPerez
    @SergioRPerez Před rokem +8

    Juventus was feeling alone with these kind of scandals. Thank you MC for join them.

  • @michaelfarrow5817
    @michaelfarrow5817 Před rokem +52

    Realistically, the harshest possible punishment is lose the titles. If they were forming shadow contracts and paying players and managers cash off the books and there's a smoking gun, those players are ineligible and those titles have to be taken away. Man City's defence seems to be based on some version of "fruit of the poisoned tree" where the authorities wouldn't know they'd cheated if somebody hadn't hacked them.

    • @abdallahsmith1985
      @abdallahsmith1985 Před rokem +8

      Give the title to Liverpool for seasons we were second

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před rokem +3

      @@abdallahsmith1985 Nah, it'd be much more fair for the 2nd and 3rd place clubs to have to play a single match for each trophy
      Especially since had they not been competing with City's position they might have played differently
      Ole confirmed for winning a PL Title as manager 🤣

    • @liamwright2510
      @liamwright2510 Před rokem +3

      What about if the third placed club had far less points that season than second. How is that fair?

    • @lukeatbrandynightful
      @lukeatbrandynightful Před rokem +3

      So Jose Mourinho did win the title win United lol?

    • @ChrissyboyH44
      @ChrissyboyH44 Před rokem +1

      You can't just change the past. It wouldn't work.

  • @mcscars87
    @mcscars87 Před rokem +68

    TODD BOHELY CURRENTLY SHREDDING PAPERWORK 😆 🤣

    • @benjaminbland3988
      @benjaminbland3988 Před rokem

      Doesn't need to you melt

    • @mcscars87
      @mcscars87 Před rokem +1

      @@benjaminbland3988 melt? Says him "beefing" on a CZcams comment 🙄 bore off 😆

  • @dalegrant9282
    @dalegrant9282 Před rokem +580

    Let's be honest how City thought they would get away with going from a mid-table club(at best), to claiming to be bigger financially than United, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc? When those clubs have developed themselves over 100+ years. How many City fans do you actually meet? It's like one big fake scheme, the fans don't exist

    • @gameram6382
      @gameram6382 Před rokem +34

      Well said

    • @lookingforward.2569
      @lookingforward.2569 Před rokem +24

      The lies of Man City having no fans are false, only have 39 millions followers on Instagram and 14 million on Twitter.

    • @Ruzz_.
      @Ruzz_. Před rokem +108

      @@lookingforward.2569 but they only support City because of their success. I’m so happy City might get relegated so we can see if these fans are real

    • @dalegrant9282
      @dalegrant9282 Před rokem +78

      @@lookingforward.2569 I'm 29 years old, I have never met a Man City supporter in person, I always meet Villa, Everton, Liverpool, Fulham, United, Arsenal... everyone

    • @IsRight
      @IsRight Před rokem +3

      A superb comment

  • @oliverchong2428
    @oliverchong2428 Před rokem +8

    Insightful contribution from Keown as always🤦‍♂️

  • @Lorenzo8O1
    @Lorenzo8O1 Před rokem +5

    That's why De Bruyne or Foden haven't started recently, Peppie is making sure they don't get injured before the fire sale begins

    • @senlac.86
      @senlac.86 Před rokem

      De bruyne legs have gone and foden has a lingering illness I believe.

  • @eezaka2791
    @eezaka2791 Před rokem +403

    Explains their managers wacky mood in recent weeks

    • @juciyjcurtis7938
      @juciyjcurtis7938 Před rokem +43

      And why he send a certain player to Bayern on loan

    • @mchukdez
      @mchukdez Před rokem +3

      😂😂

    • @Discombobulate453
      @Discombobulate453 Před rokem +9

      He’ll leave before the end of the season. This is huge

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před rokem +19

      Fraudiola is even more of a fraud than I thought this is hilarious

    • @garethmccartan3636
      @garethmccartan3636 Před rokem +8

      @tripitaka Well with those resources, who wouldn't be the best manager in the world?
      Wonder how pep would do with the resources of say Burnley or Brentford or Crystal palace or Bournemouth or even West ham or Aston villa?
      Every club he's been in charge of have been the richest in their league by far.

  • @alexbelotti1603
    @alexbelotti1603 Před rokem +498

    Thanks to Man City for taking all the headlines, didn’t really want to hear Simon Jordan and Jim White celebrating about Arsenal losing for a week.

    • @Kevin.Anthony3
      @Kevin.Anthony3 Před rokem +15

      Me neither. Well said

    • @BlackChrishi
      @BlackChrishi Před rokem +31

      Or going on about Klopp being in the mire. This is refreshing

    • @drunkmonkey4486
      @drunkmonkey4486 Před rokem +7

      Ohh it's coming, don't worry

    • @Mbizalalla21
      @Mbizalalla21 Před rokem +12

      But they wouldn’t be too critical because city also dropped points it would be different if City closed the gap this weekend

    • @winnersclub6836
      @winnersclub6836 Před rokem

      Couldn't agree with you more 👏🏽

  • @kevinwall795
    @kevinwall795 Před rokem +2

    Love TalkSport. White and Jordan are fantastic. I love that Jordan does not care who he upsets when airing his opinions.
    Great show guys. 👏

  • @delsingh2577
    @delsingh2577 Před rokem +3

    Points should also be retrospectively be deducted and the title given the team that came 2nd

  • @chrisdee1583
    @chrisdee1583 Před rokem +313

    Haaland will be playing next to his Dad in League 2 now.

    • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
      @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před rokem +13

      League 2 would be funny.

    • @tnsf2896
      @tnsf2896 Před rokem +11

      Rumours started to go off a few days ago about Haaland going to Barcelona. Cancello gone. Now we know why.

    • @purplebutterfly314
      @purplebutterfly314 Před rokem +31

      @@tnsf2896 So he's gonna leave a financially shady club to go to another financially shady club? 😭

    • @markshaz8691
      @markshaz8691 Před rokem +3

      😂😂

    • @tnsf2896
      @tnsf2896 Před rokem

      @@purplebutterfly314 I guess so. Depends on the verdict of course. However players don’t even like missing out on Champions league ball and often times send in transfer request all the time. Stop grabbing at straws you can always bandwagon Newcastle ya cow 😂

  • @RainingFlow19
    @RainingFlow19 Před rokem +474

    Its inconceivable how Man City could be financially bigger than Bayern, Man United, Real. Its honestly even hard to believe they are competing against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in that short span.

    • @brianlamont1978
      @brianlamont1978 Před rokem +27

      @elli Liverpool generated more revenue this year than Man Utd!!!

    • @nkoonkukoo
      @nkoonkukoo Před rokem +11

      Lol replace Man United with Barca

    • @SuperEmpathOne
      @SuperEmpathOne Před rokem +13

      U cheat n manipulate u get dealt with.

    • @mrshanks4571
      @mrshanks4571 Před rokem +21

      Lol take Chelsea out of the equation they went from Tottenham to Man Utd in three years through ludicrous spending

    • @waggydoo3715
      @waggydoo3715 Před rokem +8

      @Brian Lamont lol is that what you think. You must be smoking some good stuff

  • @royjungeling279
    @royjungeling279 Před rokem +3

    It will take a long time for this to get through the courts - will City's money attract players to a club looking at possible relegation? - the same UK rules apply that saw Saracens relegated from Rugby's EPL, it could certainly happen.

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Před rokem

      It will aparently, take a couple of years at least to get to a verdict but absolultely, Citeh will struggle to attract big name players. Would Bellingham consider them now? His options are getting smaller. As a Liverpool fan, I think we've blown it with him signing now. His options are now Real, PSG or Chelski. Chelski have spent that much money and their loophole they used is being closed and I believe he doesn't want to go there anyway. He's just best staying at Dortmund till Liverpool recover which might take a couple of years. Or go to Real. I don't seriously consider PSG as an option. Sorry for digressing 🙂

  • @anthonyhulse1248
    @anthonyhulse1248 Před rokem +2

    Looking forward to seeing Man City vs Stockport County.

  • @kevinmcnab5670
    @kevinmcnab5670 Před rokem +292

    I hope Newcastle have plenty of kits ready to sell because they're about to be inundated with new "fans".

    • @bman977
      @bman977 Před rokem +7

      Lol

    • @GhostNappa2k10
      @GhostNappa2k10 Před rokem +8

      With the amount of bloody variant kits Castore has made, I am more than confident we have enough 🤣

    • @lorddiegocosta3307
      @lorddiegocosta3307 Před rokem +1

      @@GhostNappa2k10 has caster not been good? design wise I thought they looked decent, better than the likes of puma and Hummel at least

    • @richardramchand9379
      @richardramchand9379 Před rokem +13

      Bit different though. They’re a big club.

    • @dalegrant9282
      @dalegrant9282 Před rokem +2

      Brilliant comment

  • @NMSharma-vg2zf
    @NMSharma-vg2zf Před rokem +69

    All 16 Man City fans are EXTREAMLY worried.

    • @dibeshshrestha9277
      @dibeshshrestha9277 Před rokem +4

      😂😂😂 ..

    • @HowardoColeBrown
      @HowardoColeBrown Před rokem +2

      No we aint...we'll get out of this too...just watch lol...club already made a statement...BTW this is a charge...not a conviction..

    • @AA-xb6vx
      @AA-xb6vx Před rokem +20

      @@HowardoColeBrownYou might need to ask the other 15 City fans before speaking on their behalf.

    • @HowardoColeBrown
      @HowardoColeBrown Před rokem

      @@AA-xb6vx already did..your mom was the first to agree. ..

    • @Denchanter
      @Denchanter Před rokem +5

      They won’t be worried. They’ll just support another team

  • @andrewturnbull8955
    @andrewturnbull8955 Před rokem +4

    If found to be true, how many clubs have been effected due to these actions? How many teams have been involved in relegations (maybe multiple ones) because of the results, not only against them - but to those teams they've been fighting in the same relegation battle?
    What about all the results in the cup competitions? How many teams have been knocked out in rounds by them - even being runners-up to them? The mind completely boggles!
    The financial implications upon all of those effected teams (due to loss of revenue) could be phenomenal - if each team decided to bring a class action for loss of revenue and titles would truly be incalculable by the main mind. If, any / most of these are found to be true and Manchester City have been found to deliberately delay the findings because of potential actions then its going to be major punishments - and though the FA have tried to acquire the documents, it really should of been pressed for further...
    Maybe all accounts need to be submitted by the end of each season as part of the qualification of their team to be involved in the following one.
    Though many will cheers at this, we all need to remember that they are innocent until proven (without a shadow of a doubt) guilty. I actually feel sorry for the fans of the club - the true ones who were there under Peter Swales and the like, not just the glory hunters.
    It could end up the 'Big Six' becoming the 'Big Five' in the near future Obviously, Newcastle United are not part of the 'Big Six' club association - it's like seeing the Earth as 'Big' and forgetting all about Jupiter...

    • @zafmo9829
      @zafmo9829 Před rokem +1

      Spot on. But it is because of these endless levels of wrongdoing, that the FA won't punish man City. They cannot have the entire Premier league turned into a law suit from every club who played them. They can't send man City to league 2 because the owners of man City will throw a billion pound in their lap. Money solves everything and that is why man City will get a points reduction at max. Still could go and win the CL. Its a joke

    • @andrewturnbull8955
      @andrewturnbull8955 Před rokem

      @@zafmo9829 If I were the chairman of a club which has been relegated since the Commencement of when the allegations started - and those results would have obviously had an effect to that relegation, then I would be seeking legal advice for a possible class action against either Manchester City and or the F.A. This of course would only be processed if Manchester City were found to be significantly guilty of these breaches (there's still a long way to go on that).

    • @andrewturnbull8955
      @andrewturnbull8955 Před rokem

      @@zafmo9829 It's February 2023 when these allegations have been made, Manchester City will have just received the details of these allegations and it will take time for them to prepare a defence. There'll then be a period of arbitration and if found guilty, Manchester City will have the right to appeal.
      Don't forget, you're innocent until Proven guilty in this country.
      The timeline for this is obviously not going to be in time for the Commencement of the 2023/24 Season - at best, in my opinion, the final decision and punishment (if found to be guilty) might be as early as in line with the Commencement of the 2024/25 Season.
      Again, may I stress - Manchester City have not been legally found guilty of anything yet. I'm not an expert on these scenarios - not many people are but I don't think that like many legal cases that there'll be any 'plea bargaining'.

    • @andrewturnbull8955
      @andrewturnbull8955 Před rokem

      @@zafmo9829 What could possibly be happening at this time (I would be if I were currently contracted to the club) is that player contracts could be getting fully reviewed and scrutinised for potential loopholes or escape clauses.
      Again, if I were a player with a level of 'commercial image rights' and contracts with certain brands, 'I' would be concerned about what has been alleged and how it would reflect on 'me' and how it would reflect on 'my career' - if Manchester City were found to be significantly guilty of these allegations.
      It's an absolute legal minefield in my opinion, but if there are clauses in the contracts for the conduct of the players - then it is fair to anticipate that there'll be clauses for the conduct of the club.
      But at this time, Manchester City have not been found guilty of anything.

    • @andrewturnbull8955
      @andrewturnbull8955 Před rokem

      Though Manchester City have not been found guilty of anything at this time, the clock begun at the FA announcement yesterday - and that clock is basically the mental picture of potential impacts of them being found guilty.
      You'd obviously be looking at a fine, a 'competitive' points deduction - estimated to a number where it is still recoverable to avoid relegation on the season it is determined (it will most likely be at the start of a season - and I don't think if they're found guilty that relegation to another division will be asserted) and the most likely of all being a Transfer Ban - this one is the key one as the amount of time which is determined and set for could be the key.
      If found guilty and say a transfer ban of three years (6 transfer windows) is set, then Manchester City (and who would sign for them in the next window in knowledge of what could be pending, if found guilt) could have some real significant problems in trying to recover - especially if some of their existing players have their contracts torn up: Their squad could be absolutely decimated by the time of them coming out of thr other side - possibly already facing themselves in a league, if not two lower than where they started.
      I know people are going to say 'That would never happen' - but the simple question would be to ask is 'How can you perform without a team?' - All that would be left are stragglers, low members of the squad and whatever they can pull through from the youth academy.
      And that there is the crux, which is also the 'worst case scenario' - IF Manchester City were found to be guilty of any serious breaches and they'll most likely have a better legal team on the case than what the F.A. have.
      What I do believe (in my opinion) is that many of the clubs will expect the punishment (if found guilty) to be significant enough to ensure that its an effective deterrent - otherwise the entire investigation would have proven to be inept and useless. In the past, their focus would have possibly been there to 'peg back' the likes of the oligarchs capability to blast through the cash to attain success - but there's one out there that's even bigger than Manchester City, three times the size of the combined wealth of the Premier league combined (and even greater than the combined worth of the eight top European leagues). All efforts will be made to scrutinise every penny in and every pound out for Financial Fair Play. Every 'Big Club' in Europe thought they were big sharks in a big pool until the takeover of Newcastle United in October 2021 - now they're faced with the reality of scale and will make all efforts (in particular their direct competitive in the Premier League) to reduce their inertia.
      Hey, I hope Man City don't get hit too hard - if anything as through time every generous chairman has spent on their club, long before the days of Jack Walker (God rest him) was doing it at Blackburn. Every team is going to try and find something to their advantage - regardless of the country or the league.
      I for one would miss it if Man City were no longer in the Premier League - they've had some historical decent fans in their time.

  • @AutoAbsolute
    @AutoAbsolute Před rokem +3

    What's crazy is that this has been allowed to go on for so long....

  • @viralknockout
    @viralknockout Před rokem +286

    Imagine all those players up for grabs

    • @lookingforward.2569
      @lookingforward.2569 Před rokem +20

      Man City will sell them to Barcelona not any pl teams. Don’t worry

    • @opinionunpopular
      @opinionunpopular Před rokem +17

      @@lookingforward.2569 money talks mate😂

    • @sk00p
      @sk00p Před rokem +8

      @@lookingforward.2569 why? You probably wont be competing in the EPL next season

    • @lookingforward.2569
      @lookingforward.2569 Před rokem +4

      @@sk00p most of Man City staff are ex Barcelona and good relations with Barcelona, they won’t sell to pl rivals. Half the squad Barcelona wants anyway and im sure psg could an favour for us and take the rest.

    • @lookingforward.2569
      @lookingforward.2569 Před rokem +2

      @@dondappapumpumslappa8051 I do, even if Man City get relgated they can choose who ever signs their players. They will sell to Barcelona because their relationship and they won’t sell pl teams that tried to get them banned.

  • @crock7910
    @crock7910 Před rokem +60

    I hear UEFA say they will NOT strip Manchester City of their Champions League Titles :)

  • @MeditationalState
    @MeditationalState Před rokem +3

    Welcome back to the Villa Jack. You've had a wonderful experience now it's time to come back to a premier league club.

  • @markyp1965
    @markyp1965 Před rokem +5

    It was only a matter of time before something like this blew up big time, but for anyone hoping to see punishment meted out to Man City this season, if they are guilty, it’s difficult to see that happening.

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před rokem +3

      It isnt about the punishment they receive, it's real physical validation for what everyone else has been saying for years
      It vindicates our disdain for the club as well as nullifies all those trophies pep likes to dick waive about at people as well as their fans

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 Před rokem

      @@victorkreig6089 Couldn't have said it better myself. Imagine if you're a Liverpool fan losing the league last season by one point then realising the team above you was financially doping, the fucking audacity!

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 Před rokem

      @@philbarton2832 Stop being bitter and jealous.

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 Před rokem

      @@victorkreig6089 You ever been to a game?

  • @supercas46
    @supercas46 Před rokem +112

    I'm waiting for Mourinho to claim the 2018 title.

    • @deangreen2567
      @deangreen2567 Před rokem +31

      Don’t forget that Ole is getting one 😂

    • @denisepurser1398
      @denisepurser1398 Před rokem +16

      Mourinho will be smiling 😃

    • @afiq358
      @afiq358 Před rokem +13

      If that happens, we need a mid season open bus top celebration down at Manchester. Bring back all the boys home.

    • @legendrakin
      @legendrakin Před rokem +5

      Liverpool twice

    • @JohnDoe-yg2eu
      @JohnDoe-yg2eu Před rokem +2

      @@deangreen2567 between 2009-2018 so no he wont

  • @parmaman8551
    @parmaman8551 Před rokem +63

    When a club with such a tiny fanbase are top of the highest earning football clubs in the world, you know something is up.

    • @guaybique4210
      @guaybique4210 Před rokem +1

      Facts

    • @mchukdez
      @mchukdez Před rokem +4

      True. Cheats. Let’s see if Pep gonna manage a League 1 or 2 team, because that’s where they belong.

    • @spark556
      @spark556 Před rokem +3

      Tiny? They have more social media followers than Chelsea

    • @Jay-B87
      @Jay-B87 Před rokem +12

      @@spark556 social media isn't real life. Grow up.

    • @randomuser78
      @randomuser78 Před rokem

      Exactly no one can convince us they have fanbase bigger than man u real liverpool barca arsenal bayern chelsea, never met any city fans till now lol

  • @ForburyLion
    @ForburyLion Před rokem +1

    Why has it taken 14 seasons to charge them for the first season breach? Why has it taken 13 seasons for the second season breach and so on and so on. This doesn't look good for the Premier League investigators/authorities.

  • @kd5973
    @kd5973 Před rokem +4

    IMO this is going to have huge huge huge huge huge implications for their transfer windows coming up. No big player will come near them due to potential sanctions coming in. I am sure some of their big players will want to leave in the summer too. Wonder if Pep will stay.

    • @r_rajkarnikar
      @r_rajkarnikar Před rokem

      They'll be relegated by then

    • @kd5973
      @kd5973 Před rokem

      @@r_rajkarnikar Not by this summer though.. so this summer will be more public opinion than any legal sanctions

    • @r_rajkarnikar
      @r_rajkarnikar Před rokem

      @@kd5973 you're right. I got that wrong. It will be interesting indeed.

    • @craigmaguire6168
      @craigmaguire6168 Před rokem

      Peps already said if barca call he's gone,he's well asking barca ro phone him quickly 🙄

  • @prathameshgaonkar7234
    @prathameshgaonkar7234 Před rokem +39

    Relegate them

  • @MagnumSkyWolf
    @MagnumSkyWolf Před rokem +71

    Can we now officially say they bought the league

    • @merki101
      @merki101 Před rokem +3

      They bought it even if they are non guilty 🤣🤣🤣

    • @randomuser78
      @randomuser78 Před rokem +2

      Yessss🥳🥳🥳, should be relegated and titles stripped if possible, is it a joke liverpool lost by 1 points twice the title and man u lost too..those were the actual history clubs and rivals...now its clear manchester was always red, this blue was artificial and now exposed

    • @MagnumSkyWolf
      @MagnumSkyWolf Před rokem +1

      @@merki101 facts 😂😂

    • @adamrowland830
      @adamrowland830 Před rokem +3

      Chelsea started all this

    • @kierenboimufc5940
      @kierenboimufc5940 Před rokem

      @@randomuser78 man u twice liverpool once during that time framw

  • @maxdamion1
    @maxdamion1 Před rokem +17

    I'm a jamaican, and I've never met a city fan . I've moved to Canada 10 years now and I've still never met a city fan . I've met lots of chelsea fans and fellow man utd fans and Arsenal fans

    • @jackbadabing5609
      @jackbadabing5609 Před rokem

      Thats the problem there all foreigners there fans especially arsenal and man u

    • @mrjasondylan
      @mrjasondylan Před rokem

      Most City fans are from Manchester you don't meet Mets fans outside New York but Yankees fans are worldwide just the way it is.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. Před rokem

      Try Manchester

    • @jasonleon1976
      @jasonleon1976 Před rokem +3

      @JackBadabing No. Its Citys problem that their fanbase doesn't stretch globally. It's no coincidence the biggest clubs in Europe have the biggest worldwide fanbase🤦‍♂️

    • @cherry-vz5kx
      @cherry-vz5kx Před rokem

      Try supporting a local Jamacian team,Arnett Gardens F.C,Montego Bay F.C or Tivoli Gardens F.C instead of a team from the other side of the world.

  • @Keith_Lard
    @Keith_Lard Před rokem +4

    Tears in Stockport tonight

  • @ryan1111111555555555
    @ryan1111111555555555 Před rokem +34

    Hahaha Martin Keown bit out of his depth here "well surely if they just give them the information they're alright...?"
    No Martin, not exactly.

    • @wayne1da121
      @wayne1da121 Před rokem +7

      Came to the comments to look for this observation. Keown should stay out of this conversation 😂

    • @christopheripad477
      @christopheripad477 Před rokem

      Just because you were a half decent player, it doesn’t make you a football commentator.

  • @paulmortal7611
    @paulmortal7611 Před rokem +31

    a few years ago a similar thing happened with saracens in rugby. they got relegated etc. they are now top of the premiership by 10 0r 15 points. money always wins

    • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
      @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Před rokem +3

      The same happened with Juventus, relegated for dodgy finances in 06, half of their first team (including some World Cup winners) stayed and got them promoted and by 2011 they were champions again

    • @sikooo8917
      @sikooo8917 Před rokem +1

      @@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 city was a midtable club until Saudis came it will be hard for them to came back at juve time there were no ffp now if city have relegated they have to cut ties with players

    • @JaySmith-je5gw
      @JaySmith-je5gw Před rokem +1

      @@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 they got relegated for match fixing not irregular fianances
      They got a 15 point deduction this season for irregular fianances

  • @jammyjamjars6995
    @jammyjamjars6995 Před rokem +1

    1:17 everyone’s faces when he said that was so funny to me

  • @CalyGamer13
    @CalyGamer13 Před rokem +7

    I’m curious what happens, if their titles get stripped. Will it go to the runner-ups or will those seasons just get vacated. If it goes to the runner-ups then Man United just got 2 and Liverpool got 1. Which is kind of funny since their titles are going to their rivals.

    • @kevinjones8254
      @kevinjones8254 Před rokem +2

      Liverpool get 3 mate

    • @CalyGamer13
      @CalyGamer13 Před rokem +1

      @@kevinjones8254 The charges are from the 2009-10 season to the 2017-2018 season. So Man City would loose their 2012 & 2018 titles to Man United and 2014 to Liverpool.

    • @wolverine343534
      @wolverine343534 Před rokem

      I don’t think they will be stripped of their titles, but interesting thought. If they were striped of their titles, then that would include the cups too. Sunderland, Liverpool, and Arsenal would be up for snatching the league cups! Stoke would also pick up an FA cup win.

    • @iansmith3457
      @iansmith3457 Před rokem +1

      Stripping them of titles, no matter how just, is really unlikely. Problem for me would be were any clubs able to prove that they got relegated or failed to qualify for the CL purely because they were hammered by City that season. Every such instance would likely lead to 10s of millions of pounds lawsuits being directed at the PL for not enforcing its own rules.

  • @sleep99PS3
    @sleep99PS3 Před rokem +23

    Man City to League 2. Here. We. Go.

    • @Dwayndibb
      @Dwayndibb Před rokem +1

      Now you mention it. Do the Championship teams want them? Seems unfair on that league.

    • @paddydarkchild234
      @paddydarkchild234 Před rokem +5

      Needs to be lower...some teams have been hit with 30 pts deductions for just a few irregularities. City need to be playing in Blue Square North or something.

  • @Noddie2101
    @Noddie2101 Před rokem +14

    Not a city fan but it feels like all or most clubs are at dodgy dealings

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Před rokem +2

      Not to this extent. Realistically, they would only receive half the income if they played by the rules. If they didn't have the rich owner spending then they wouldn't have the ability to sign those top players so they wouldn't be as strong and therefore receive less in sponsorships and they wouldn't have the trophies they won. So its blatant cheating.

  • @dangilmartin4526
    @dangilmartin4526 Před rokem +7

    Need to make an example of City and if they’re to be seen buying their way out of trouble it won’t deter future offenders. 100 offences is a complete mockery

    • @deanburns8174
      @deanburns8174 Před rokem

      Including the two about grass being too long?

    • @ravd8082
      @ravd8082 Před 3 měsíci

      thier owners who funded city sponsorship revenue are accountable for all this ADUG

  • @stephennewton2777
    @stephennewton2777 Před rokem

    Surely not? I thought the FFP rules only applied to clubs outside the big six.

  • @Jon-oz9jg
    @Jon-oz9jg Před rokem +11

    Chelsea fan - we've been successful for a 20 year period or so and don't even come close to surpassing the revenue of Liverpool, Real Madrid etc. And that's how it should be. You don't grow a global brand that fast - just not possible. Man City have been taking the piss!

    • @fangdog29
      @fangdog29 Před rokem +1

      To be fair, Liverpools revenues have only grown in recent seasons - success brings revenue and profits.

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Před rokem +1

      @@fangdog29 Liverpool have been a global brand since their 70s and 80s golden age

    • @Gius3pp3K
      @Gius3pp3K Před rokem

      Chelsea probably being funded with dirty oil money from Abramovic, even though he’s been sanctioned

    • @Jon-oz9jg
      @Jon-oz9jg Před rokem

      @@Gius3pp3K Typical crybaby

  • @Gunner-Morgz_TV
    @Gunner-Morgz_TV Před rokem +5

    I completely agree with Simon, the fact the Premier league are only exposing this now is definitely to do with the imminent government/regulator interference! There’s something very shady about all this not only from Man City’s side & proves that the need for an independent regulator is urgent & much needed for Transparency

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Před rokem

      But the FA have been investigating a long time. Maybe they sat on it or maybe they wanted to absolutely make sure their case was watertight. Personally speaking, I'd make sure the case was watertight. Imagine the damage caused to the FA if Citeh got off with it? They'd be an absolute laughing stock. And UEFA I suspect, will be in there somewhere. They were livid Citeh got away with it after taking it to CAS. And UEFA has some very powerful people on their backs, like Real Madrid and Barcelona.

  • @78Cathal
    @78Cathal Před rokem +6

    This could also be the best thing ever to happen in football.....as spending on wages and players have definitely gone out of control.

    • @mikko3
      @mikko3 Před rokem

      The football players deserve to get paid, they bring in billions and small club fans want them to get paid 2 million a season MAX

  • @ih4447
    @ih4447 Před rokem +110

    How do man city fans feel about this? You have been investigated by every footballing body yet have got of all the charges because of technicalities. How does it feel to support a club which only exists because of constant illicit activity. I would be ashamed if my club behaved like this.

    • @nickedwards2904
      @nickedwards2904 Před rokem +10

      no you wouldnt lol

    • @fresh.prince7472
      @fresh.prince7472 Před rokem +2

      Facts

    • @stanbenik
      @stanbenik Před rokem

      @went for a packet of fags in a tank You support a easy pick of a team which wins by cheating but you dont care, you dont think that has nothing to do with your personality? It actually says a lot more than the average fans connection to his/her club.

    • @abrahamjames7004
      @abrahamjames7004 Před rokem +6

      As a City fan I actually don't feel ashamed...The best moments of this club have come the takeover and we'll stand by them as we clearly believe in their innocence

    • @rickster5120
      @rickster5120 Před rokem +12

      They're plastic so they'll just buy a Newcastle shirt and follow pep and the cheque book there

  • @azizafc5775
    @azizafc5775 Před rokem +10

    Todd Boehly seen burning papers at the back of the stadium

  • @NationalistAF
    @NationalistAF Před rokem +8

    Pep knew this coming last Friday .
    Its strange that the those breaches were not immediately processed at the same season theyre occurred, but piled up for many sessons, it feels like the regulator were waiting for the right moment

    • @mcfcguvnors
      @mcfcguvnors Před rokem

      cos youd know

    • @westsighed
      @westsighed Před rokem +1

      There ain't nothing strange about building a strong, deep, detailed and airtight case against a large, rich and potentially heinous organisation.

    • @maiamaia382
      @maiamaia382 Před rokem +1

      Everbody knows this for many years
      The problem is that many people are not interested to see the reality
      The won't to be entertained
      And Pep knows this very well
      What he says if this coming out i will leave

  • @4Kmichelinstarmovies
    @4Kmichelinstarmovies Před rokem +7

    can they be stripped of any previous titles if this goes back 14 seasons?

    • @tysont9872
      @tysont9872 Před rokem +2

      YES

    • @slickdon1
      @slickdon1 Před rokem

      @@tysont9872yeah but they obviously won’t

    • @randomuser78
      @randomuser78 Před rokem +1

      They must be, liverpool losing by 1 point 2 times is a joke, and united came second too 2 times...deserved ones must germt theirs epl is fraud if they dint strip titles, corrupt fa

  • @ChrisPhillipsDrumLessons
    @ChrisPhillipsDrumLessons Před rokem +77

    If true stripped of their titles’. Relegated into the lower leagues plus points deduction.
    Transfer ban and Europe ban

    • @andrewmoore8432
      @andrewmoore8432 Před rokem +18

      Agree but wont happen will it...money always talks

    • @lookingforward.2569
      @lookingforward.2569 Před rokem +3

      They need proof first and they don’t have it.

    • @benjema112
      @benjema112 Před rokem

      Was thinking the same literally paid for all their success and did it allegaly but they will just do some back handers and get away with it again I bet.

    • @KingHill2015
      @KingHill2015 Před rokem +1

      We're they not investigated previously and nothing came of it??????

    • @chrisdee1583
      @chrisdee1583 Před rokem +2

      @@benjema112 Is Allegaly French?🤣

  • @edwardray4919
    @edwardray4919 Před rokem +42

    Funny how Wenger called this a long time ago🤔

    • @davidpeters3857
      @davidpeters3857 Před rokem

      City have just found,they can’t BRIBE everybody all of the time,hopefully this corrupt outfit will be banished into the lower leagues.

    • @davidpeters3857
      @davidpeters3857 Před rokem +2

      I remember

    • @vee__7
      @vee__7 Před rokem +3

      Everyone did. Worst kept secret in sports.

    • @CITRUS--
      @CITRUS-- Před rokem

      What did Wenger say? Is there a link to a story someone can send me?

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Před rokem +3

      Wenger predicts everything the guys got a crystal ball

  • @Silverblue121
    @Silverblue121 Před rokem +2

    Just because charges have been brought forward, evidence has to be provided before punishment can be administered. This will be dragged out for a number of years. I suspect City's board however 'surprised' they claimed to be were ready for this

    • @SteTrax
      @SteTrax Před rokem

      Of course. Due process (rightly so) takes a long time. Guily or innocent we seem to have a sport culture whereby trial by social media precludes anything else.

  • @summerrr1
    @summerrr1 Před rokem +7

    The exact same thing happened with Saracens (paying players via third parties) and they got relegated. There is no other outcome than relegation.

  • @stevenbarnes6693
    @stevenbarnes6693 Před rokem +90

    Most clubs do things by the book City do things by the barrel.

    • @IMMERSIVEVOICE
      @IMMERSIVEVOICE Před rokem +2

      Brilliant

    • @1zbossz
      @1zbossz Před rokem +1

      xD

    • @slimbo689
      @slimbo689 Před rokem +3

      I'm stealing that

    • @SteTrax
      @SteTrax Před rokem

      Most clubs do thing by the book? Oh, sweetheart - you're naivety is astounding.

    • @stevenbarnes6693
      @stevenbarnes6693 Před rokem

      @@SteTrax your naivety is astounding it's a joke can't have a joke because Steve McClean says I'm quaking in my boots the whole country is laughing at city cheating small team made more than Madrid Barca And United are you deluded

  • @joebarnes100
    @joebarnes100 Před rokem +63

    15 point deduction for every season they cheated in. It's only fair.

    • @sk00p
      @sk00p Před rokem +18

      No, its not enough.
      It needs to be relegation/ reductions in expenses and wages expenditure with a points deductions.

    • @frank290862
      @frank290862 Před rokem +18

      Not enough. There needs to be a degree of physical violence too.

    • @davidboyle1193
      @davidboyle1193 Před rokem +12

      And all their titles taken off them

    • @osmanpatel544
      @osmanpatel544 Před rokem +2

      @@frank290862 lol

    • @ryanevans126
      @ryanevans126 Před rokem

      If that happened defo relegation heard transfer ban aswell

  • @konstantinospappas5226

    Another thought,what happens to those teams during the last 13 years of the premier league that had lost both home and away from Man. city and just by 5 or less points went down during those seasons? All the revenue they lost.

  • @Alex-ty6dk
    @Alex-ty6dk Před rokem +1

    Leeds were deducted 15 points in 2007 for not breaking even a quarter of these regulations

  • @thefreechannel8198
    @thefreechannel8198 Před rokem +27

    Pep Guardiola and his team in championship would be classic 😂.

    • @Dwayndibb
      @Dwayndibb Před rokem +1

      Trouble is they can easily win and get back? Maybe League 1 would like them.

    • @UserName-br5zu
      @UserName-br5zu Před rokem

      Imagine thinking they will be relegated or that Pep would ever manage in that league.

    • @buffalosowljah373
      @buffalosowljah373 Před rokem

      @@UserName-br5zu erm would be interestin but doubt it he said hed walk if man city lied to him about anything

    • @SI.COYG6
      @SI.COYG6 Před rokem

      @@Dwayndibb theyve broken the rules for more than 10 season. wouldnt be surprised if they go lower

  • @jameshughes9329
    @jameshughes9329 Před rokem +16

    City will be checking to see if Shaun Goater, Nicky Weaver and Paul Dickov are still fit ✌️🤣

    • @speedoflightvanc
      @speedoflightvanc Před rokem

      Georgi Kinkladze will be the star player. Jihai Sun will make a comeback.

    • @jameshughes9329
      @jameshughes9329 Před rokem +1

      @@speedoflightvanc Danny Tiatto and Steve Lomas...I mean come on, how can Gundogan or de Bruyne be better than these!🤣

    • @speedoflightvanc
      @speedoflightvanc Před rokem

      @@jameshughes9329 of course. when Danny Tiatto comes back. Gundogan will be his backup. Haaland can be back up for Paul Dickov.

  • @philmyglass877
    @philmyglass877 Před rokem +1

    New drinking game - take a shot every time Jim say ‘unprecedented’ 😂

  • @stever8669
    @stever8669 Před rokem

    The number of charges sounds large because they used the same accounting over multiple years. There aren't over 100 charges for different offences.

  • @BlackChrishi
    @BlackChrishi Před rokem +71

    Pep in League One. That would be a sight. Imagine if he and the players decided to stay and attempt some football manager/ FIFA pipedream.

    • @chrisdee1583
      @chrisdee1583 Před rokem +19

      They'll win the Papa John's before the Champions League now 🤣

    • @frannyp46
      @frannyp46 Před rokem +2

      @black hrishi. Can you imagine Pep at Stevenage or a local derby against Salford City if these two teams get promoted at end of season.

    • @tomrogers7110
      @tomrogers7110 Před rokem

      Yes, they could do a Glasgow Rangers.

    • @fresh.prince7472
      @fresh.prince7472 Před rokem +4

      Pep would be gone along with most of there players Lol

    • @drilltime1237
      @drilltime1237 Před rokem +1

      @@fresh.prince7472 these comments have me dead

  • @nickraoyj
    @nickraoyj Před rokem +61

    Always wondered where City get their revenue from to justify their spending, when they have barely any fanbase.

    • @Ken-yy9us
      @Ken-yy9us Před rokem +3

      What are you talking about?
      Just fact check the support they were getting when they played in the third tier... over 30,000!!!
      By the way, I'm not a city fan - come on you Gunners!!!

    • @Doctor_Kroom
      @Doctor_Kroom Před rokem +2

      @@Ken-yy9us Man city is the best club in the world!
      YNWA! GGMU! Mia San Mia!

    • @MrAlwaysBlue
      @MrAlwaysBlue Před rokem +1

      Anybody who says that is showing their ignorance.

    • @purplebutterfly314
      @purplebutterfly314 Před rokem +20

      ​@@MrAlwaysBlue Are you seriously trying to argue City's fanbase is big enough for you to get more lucrative sponsorship deals than United, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern? Do you seriously think your club organically generated all that money in 10 years? How come City only got that rich once they got an oil sugar daddy? How come you weren't making more revenue than United before 2008 if your fanbase is so big? Bruh the delusion 😭😆

    • @lestajesta9682
      @lestajesta9682 Před rokem +2

      Man City have a good loyal local fan Base, take my city Leicester as aa example like any other town or city in England is full of glory hunting Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans. If the locals in Leicester actually supported Leicester we could easily fill a 60k stadium for most games.

  • @jamesmilligan2797
    @jamesmilligan2797 Před rokem +1

    If found guilty, that would mean other clubs have lost out on prem titles, higher prem league places, champions league places, FA & Carabo cups....
    Would other clubs be able to sue for loss of earnings?

  • @JF-qk8gq
    @JF-qk8gq Před rokem

    I think it’s about time Simon and Martin put on a pair of boxing gloves and go at it!

  • @major84.
    @major84. Před rokem +47

    Should be relegated a league per season they breached the rules, what is the 14th division league 🤔

    • @TheRightWayRoundTRWR
      @TheRightWayRoundTRWR Před rokem +26

      Playing down the park isn’t it? Setting up the nets themselves

    • @matthewdoyle3628
      @matthewdoyle3628 Před rokem +6

      Thursday Lunchtime at Mannadon Sports Hub in Plymouth.

    • @Ishouldstudy69
      @Ishouldstudy69 Před rokem

      City vs Wrexham would be a good league!! 😂😂

    • @t8kabr8km85
      @t8kabr8km85 Před rokem +10

      Manchester City vs Inter Yanan at powerleague next season

    • @johnking6067
      @johnking6067 Před rokem +5

      Think that might be the English Prison League, I think Belmarsh Prison are the current title holders 😉

  • @lukelocks9083
    @lukelocks9083 Před rokem +34

    The players must have got wind of this before we are now, could explain why things haven't been right with this team lately, it felt more than just trying to adapt to a new style with the AI Viking, as the start of the season they were hitting teams for 3-4-5.

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před rokem

      Not really, players and managers have adapted to their very obvious playstyle
      It's not hard to beat
      Literally no different than LVG's playstyle in his first season at United, once you figure out how to deal with it it's a cakewalk

    • @lukelocks9083
      @lukelocks9083 Před rokem +1

      @@victorkreig6089 So teams have figured them out just as this 'charges' were brewing?
      If we heard about it today, you bet it was known about before in the circles.
      If it's such a cakewalk to work them out, what are M-City still doing in 2nd place?

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před rokem

      @@lukelocks9083 literally because they had a damn easy schedule at the start of the season and like I said teams had to figure them out still as Haaland forced them to shift their playstyle a bit
      Before LVG got screwed his first season United were wrecking everyone, then Sunderland (or was it Stoke) played them in January and figured out how to get around his tactics and trashed them I think 3 nil. Only reason that didn't continue is because LVG took it so personally he decided to play almost exclusively defensively with long balls into the box and never really was an attacking threat manager again while at the club
      Oil city and more specifically Pep basically plays keep away
      Retains all midfield control with constant almost exhaustive passing, and keeps the tempo consistently high which eventually creates gaps in the defense and they get exploited
      Name a single club that runs just as much or more than city that has actually lost to them under pep
      Won't find many, because once their pace is matched and their midfield is neutralized they rely entirely on the skill of their back line to keep the other team from scoring and pray for their forwards to magically put them ahead.
      Since Fernandinho has left the club that back line has had to do all the work defensively and they absolutely suck at it, Laporte is good for attacking but not so great at defense, Stones is actually good but how often does he even play, Walker is a mid table player pretend it to be better, Ake is a midfielder being used as an emergency defender but unlike Daily Blind he isn't competent at it, Akanji is serviceable but a lot like Victor Lindelof his left side is his weakness easily exploited and he gets caught watching quite often, Mendy is actually pretty good but he's more of a mid than a defender.
      City has no defense and it's laughable that all that money Pep spent didn't fill the hole left by Ronaldinho despite knowing how important he was

    • @jacknapier6668
      @jacknapier6668 Před rokem

      @@lukelocks9083 your reaching tbh their definitely worse on the pitch this season.

  • @danofficial117
    @danofficial117 Před rokem +1

    The way to stop this is let teams spend what they want , otherwise no teams have a chance of getting to the top as they have an advantage

  • @dondiddy7529
    @dondiddy7529 Před rokem

    The reality is the prem have to make the punishment as harsh as possible to deter other teams from ever trying the same thing, plus the other teams will be steaming if they get a light punishment.

  • @kpwand
    @kpwand Před rokem +28

    Liverpool should get 3 more league titles. 13/14, 18/19 and 21/22

    • @maxp5422
      @maxp5422 Před rokem +2

      No just wipe those seasons from record books that would be so annoying Liverpool getting 3 titles looool wouldn't Tottenham get a trophy no way I can accept that looooool

    • @sugoshiyer1540
      @sugoshiyer1540 Před rokem +7

      @@Kloppsserialbottlers those 10 years were the foundation of what happened in last 4 years..
      Can't just isolate your past...

    • @lifeinslo-mo595
      @lifeinslo-mo595 Před rokem +2

      All the Premier League titles should be stripped off. Because it's foundation of what happened. Those teams shouldn't have even been assembled. Give those titles back to Man Utd and Liverpool. CHEATING FAKE OIL MONEY CLUB!

    • @Swimbrit99
      @Swimbrit99 Před rokem +1

      @@Kloppsserialbottlers it also matters about the build up from the past to now, if you strip man city of there titles from 09-18 you have to do the same from 19-present as the punishment should’ve been put in place back then, plus they also said this has been an on going investigation that should’ve been brought out last season.

    • @mikko3
      @mikko3 Před rokem

      @@lifeinslo-mo595 ManU bought their titles in the 90's and 00's

  • @mel-kx4vb
    @mel-kx4vb Před rokem +14

    To simplify things for you, Manchester city's statement of reply means " premier League did you not get that brown envelope from us "

  • @Hammerhead1986
    @Hammerhead1986 Před rokem +4

    This is absolutely tremendous 🤣🤣🤣

  • @abelinolopez1957
    @abelinolopez1957 Před rokem +2

    More then 100 times and they just want to deduct points? Wtf? This premier league is so corrupted.

  • @matt92550
    @matt92550 Před rokem +65

    Relegate them to league 2

    • @craigmcghee4
      @craigmcghee4 Před rokem +4

      Nah national League

    • @stanbenik
      @stanbenik Před rokem +2

      when there is good and evil in the world this would be a massive chance for the good.

    • @ndosh1man
      @ndosh1man Před rokem +9

      Get them down to the Sunday League

    • @andrewclavin7447
      @andrewclavin7447 Před rokem

      Their natural position

    • @stevencoe852
      @stevencoe852 Před rokem

      City have been in division 2 already do you know the year your mum was wiping your arses

  • @rosemaryfarell5264
    @rosemaryfarell5264 Před rokem +88

    They should get the harshest PUNISHMENT to set an example. We all know and cud c what was going on ffs.

    • @francisc8846
      @francisc8846 Před rokem +4

      They should, but won’t

    • @bconway9
      @bconway9 Před rokem

      Does this mean that they’re in trouble with HMRC too if they’ve been lying about their finances?

    • @deanburns8174
      @deanburns8174 Před rokem

      Please explain what you knew and could see???

  • @louislong1514
    @louislong1514 Před rokem +2

    Forfeit City EPL titles, Man Utd Mourinho champions in 2017/28 season, Solsjaer also won it in 20/21.

  • @marklynch2183
    @marklynch2183 Před rokem +5

    This is brilliant I truly hope the premier League stands up for every club that has been wronged.

  • @karabo5663
    @karabo5663 Před rokem +50

    We all know City are going to get away with this😂😂😂...'oil MONEY TALKS'😌

  • @Jsquadgamers
    @Jsquadgamers Před rokem +31

    Every football club will be watching this. If the punishment isn't relegation at a minimum this will come back to haunt the Premier League 100%. Set the example now.

    • @anthonygarcia3922
      @anthonygarcia3922 Před rokem +3

      Why? They have no proof lmao...it's literally nothing but accusations. And city seem pretty calmed about this as well, they already stated that they welcome the charges and accusations. Seems like they have evidence to prove their innocence

    • @cgray8267
      @cgray8267 Před rokem +10

      @@anthonygarcia3922 no one “ welcomes Charges “ 😂😂😂😂

    • @johnread7404
      @johnread7404 Před rokem +11

      @@anthonygarcia3922 Yes of course they have no proof what so ever, they are charging them based on a 'hunch'??? Are you for real? Is that how you think it works? They charge clubs, then run round getting the proof AFTER? Deluded. The only reason they got off with UEFA was because the evidence was time barred so wasn't admissible because evidence from certain dates couldn't be considered because the set time period for it to be considered had elapsed. In other words, a technicality. That doesn't\didn't make them innocent as City fans like to shout about. This won't happen this time.

    • @callumstannard2888
      @callumstannard2888 Před rokem +8

      @@anthonygarcia3922 the EPL have been all over this for 4 years, that's 4 YEARS!!, You must be out of your mind if you think a governing body would put 4 years of work into something of a "hunch"!

    • @errolprice9654
      @errolprice9654 Před rokem +4

      @@anthonygarcia3922 they've been charged pal . Wake up there is plenty of evidence.

  • @spptube
    @spptube Před rokem

    I hope PL sets an example to avoid this happening again. Implications can be severe and they should be.

  • @joshkirk3851
    @joshkirk3851 Před rokem

    Fascinating insight from keown.

  • @edwardray4919
    @edwardray4919 Před rokem +10

    Love Simons analysis always

  • @carter3369
    @carter3369 Před rokem +61

    They’ll pay off who they need to pay off then it will be all forgotten about

    • @problemstube7266
      @problemstube7266 Před rokem

      Just like chelsea were banned froom transfer window......you never know?

    • @anonymousinternetaddict
      @anonymousinternetaddict Před rokem +1

      Don't need to pay anyone off, we proved our innocence in a court not even Russia was able to bribe

    • @purplebutterfly314
      @purplebutterfly314 Před rokem

      @@anonymousinternetaddict 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @anonymousinternetaddict
      @anonymousinternetaddict Před rokem +1

      @@purplebutterfly314 Russia tried to bribe them when they got banned from competing in sporting events due to state sponsored doping but they weren't having it. "Likkle old citeh" wouldn't be able to switch heads

    • @Peacock__
      @Peacock__ Před rokem +2

      ​@@anonymousinternetaddict City have literally endless money, eufa cannot compete in terms of lawyers with a literal country

  • @gavinnicholls5852
    @gavinnicholls5852 Před rokem

    Great chat

  • @kwamebaidoo9601
    @kwamebaidoo9601 Před rokem

    Martin Keown always taking notes before he talks. I never saw him do that on MOTD.

  • @robertarmitage2476
    @robertarmitage2476 Před rokem +53

    Let’s be real. Even if it is true, they’ll get away with it. The owner will just pay their way out.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 Před rokem +13

      Maybe not this time. The other members of the league maybe fuming as they are within the rules.

    • @kylejohnston6384
      @kylejohnston6384 Před rokem +4

      There is lots of sanctions that could possibly happen which include expulsion from the league or there titles getting taken away

    • @wayne5240
      @wayne5240 Před rokem +12

      Nah not this time get the book thrown at them

    • @stevenlobban8162
      @stevenlobban8162 Před rokem +1

      Not this time they won't

    • @dregen8662
      @dregen8662 Před rokem +5

      if that happends it will proof that the Premier League its a joke and justice doesn´t exist

  • @dman465
    @dman465 Před rokem +22

    Give Gerrard the title he got cheated out of now

    • @redimp5667
      @redimp5667 Před rokem +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @dman465
      @dman465 Před rokem +7

      @@redimp5667 If they broke the rules and cheated a club out of winning it than it's deserved

    • @freecityzen1384
      @freecityzen1384 Před rokem

      @@dman465did Juventus get their titles stripped???? You guys are just salty

    • @squarewindow
      @squarewindow Před rokem +5

      @@freecityzen1384 yes, they did

    • @freecityzen1384
      @freecityzen1384 Před rokem

      @@squarewindow no they didn’t fool

  • @taliaxoxo
    @taliaxoxo Před rokem

    when a club is surprised and not categorically denying it ...u gotta think theyre fooked

  • @cjewe1z
    @cjewe1z Před rokem +3

    This gives a new meaning to Fraudiola. He has always vehemently denied that his paymasters have done any wrong. I wonder what he is going to say now.

  • @s2mey382
    @s2mey382 Před rokem +6

    A club that has no fans but has accrued a similar level of organic income within a decade as Real Madrid, United etc who've built that brand for over a century. The maths ain't mathin' and never has done