Why Coke Studio “Bharat” is a Musical Disappointment | An Opinion
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2023
- Here's my take on the ongoing scenario about Coke studio Bharat, a much anticipated project of Coke Studio in India, which seems to be a disappointment for musicians & music lovers so far.
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#CokeStudio #cokestudiobharat #bharat #soundofnation #musicians - Zábava
We desperately need the old Coke studio stars like Papon who is excellent in mixing different genre of music, Clinton Cerejo a mastermind rock artist, Anupam Roy a magnificent composer, Hitesh Sonik a magician of instrumentation. These poeple can give us masterpieces like Tokari, Madari, Saathi Salaam, Husna, Baisara beera, Moner Manush etc.
Totally agree!
Coke studio Bangla ❤️❤️❤️🇧🇩❤️❤️
Yes❤
Coke studio Bangla doing great 🇧🇩♥️
Problem with 'modern Indian singers' and music is that they AVOID originality big time and always find someons's style to replicate. Coz in order to be 'original' it takes alot of effort. Those efforts include respective language accent, rythem associated with that language and not trying to be a wannabee. I remeber old Indian singers from SOUTH like Udit Narayan, Lata, Alka Yagnik, S.P bal etc took years to perfect their Urdu before delivering the most ever green songs that are still appealing to new generations. Same goes for Punjabi singers in India..that original Punjabi accent and descipline is missing.
Reason for Pakistan's singers appeal is that most are original and free of any systematic strings like an industry or formula. When they sing in Urdu...entire world listens coz of the originality and clearity...when they sing in Punjabi the singer looks and feels organic..when they sing in Saraiki...the singer is a legend from the same region..
Languages sound pure with less complimenting noise.
Modern Indian singers have a hybrid Hindi/Urdu/English accent with a very loud annoying pitch..this messes up the appeal of songs. They should work hard like old Indian legends over respective languages before opening their mouths..mostly are there for the $$ than the passion...
When u are passionate...money and fame comes towards u.
A small correction: udit, lata and alka ji are not from the south rather three different corners of the country. Problem in India is the music industry have been dominated by few labels and they set the narrative, they sidelined the old greats and came up with their quacks who're not so great singers, consequentially what happened is that the original music production is not happening much on the bigger national level, it is happening independently but not done by the bigger record levels.
India has humongous musical talent, the classical disciplines are in huge diversity from time immemorial. like all our hindu scriptures are written in the form of poetry and are meant to be sung and chanted. India has huge musical diversity, there are more than 50 folk music traditions in India, there are hundreds of tribal musical traditions and there is a huge diversity of classical musical traditions in India. All the classical masters are there in India as well but nobody to support them , they are living on subsistence level. Musical industry overlords only favours their own brethren and sideline others, that's why we see the likes of half baked singers like neha kakkar and jubin nautiyal. There's a sharp decline in the musical quality from 90s and early 2000s, now there are very few songs worth listening amongst a huge stockpile of absolute rubbish.
Bollywood is destroying music. Independent musicians are not left to apply creativity, instead it’s about showing short shirts, bikinis, discos and item numbers
extremely apt ma'am, haven't been able to pin point the problem but your explanation made it so clear. I also feel the Indian coke studio doesn't treat the classical element with as much sensitivity as they do in Pakistan, we don't use classical music as much as we can to our benefit and the composition becomes a half ass indie song almost rather than a coke studio arrangement.
The current season of Coke Studio Bharat is such a shame.
Coke Studio India (MTV) used to be so good. We have such amazing tracks coming out of it. But this season...i don't even know what to say.
Please do listen to Coke Studio Bangla that is being done in Bangladesh. They are doing such a great job!
There are 2 seasons so far. Season 1 was nice but season 2 is just out of this world. Do give it an ear. ❤
Yes bonobibi is my favourite
You are right 👍
yes, dewra, murirtin, nasek nasek song awesome
Share your thoughts about coke studio bangla
Major reasons is that poetry, and proper lyrics is missing in our songs. As,seen more radicalism even in music. What I seen in Pak coke studio is that they have better lyrics and poetry which helps them in creation music and harmony.
When I started to watch and listen to Coke Studio bharat, I liked the song Taqdeer but I was thinking, this song could be made any day in India without coke studio label, what's the point of Coke Studio Bharat then? Probably I don't have much sense of music technicalities but i felt something is missing and here you explained everything 👏 You are doing a wonderful job for Music. Keep it and best wishes from Karachi 🇵🇰
What is your thoughts on "Coke Studio Bangla"?? Just doing their Season 2 and already getting massive appreciation!
Thanks fot pointing this ❤
Good point
I listened one or two songs specially a song by their national poet, that was awesome. Coke Studio Bangla is not less than Coke Studio Pakistan. But Coke Studio Bharat is worst. There used to be a Coke Studio MTV with very brilliant lineup and two of their songs were used in Pakistani movie as well, that sums up the quality of Coke Studio @ MTV
They are doing a phenomenal job.
@@JunaidKhawajaCoke studio bharat is better than Pakistan now. Listen to khalasi, magic, geejada hakki
They want Coke Studio Pakistan sucess in short time.
Aur immediately they experiment things. Which they have no experience of.
Xulfi had done in nescafe basement. Then he did coke Studio 14 .
And for elctronic music he bring Abdullah siddique who produced electronic music.
Oh I didn’t know Xulfi also produced Nescafé basement. No surprises though! 👏🏼
Agreeed.
Plus they make a khitchdi of a single song,,plus the overdramatic costumes n makeup...purleez give m eyes a rest...twenty people singing a song....wd nthng to remember.
i was also disappointed this season but the last two songs are really good...."geejaga hakki by sanjith hegde and khalsi by achint and aditya gadhvi"
Aadaab. So good to see you.
Very thought-provoking video. Let me tell you, a few days ago I also listened to the same track of Indian coke studio that you talked about in this video. I was so disappointed that I commented under the track, it looked fake, very fake. Alas, even the smiles of female artists were looking fake. Why? I have an opinion, that why those smiles were looking fake but that's not the topic. Now coming back to the real issue, I think the western part of India has lost its identity.
Please don’t mind. I love Indian talent. But that is going in vain. No proper utilization of the talent. Because Indian artistic think tanks have deliberately left their real Indian roots. As a result, it is not only Indian music that has declined, bollywood is also suffering.
Modern Indian Producers do not show India through its cultural richness. They show India through the lens of Western English Countries. That’s why they don't appeal.
P.S. I noticed your Urdu aptitude, "Taaleem". 🙂👍
V don't say aadaab, its so cringe and plz don't give them chnce to say that we are in Pakistan say such things... These are the things,only possible in boll... Movies😂
@@ArslanFaridi_ I say. Aadaab!
@@Daanyaal_Owais W.Salam
Khalasi is much better than any Pak coke studio song this season.😂
Listen to Coke Studio Bangla...
It's Awesome mix of pop & bangla folk...
What an insight 🙌🏽 I think Amit Trivedi is the best option for Coke Studio Bharat
I guess..yes.
Also papon satyaki ar Rahman
Agree 100%.
Also Salim Sulaiman Duo
Coke studio sab say pehly pakistan mai start hio. Coke studio ky founders nay yeh concpet brazil kay eik event say adapt kia aur pehli baar pakistan mai is tarah ka show start kia coke studio kay name say
Totally agree with you on the pitch correction point, but we need experimentation in the industry which is bound to result in a few missteps. However with the same process CS India has produced some real gem of songs too.
Songs from Coke Studio Pakistan are much better than ours , one thing that Pak is better is preserving their cultural folks . We in India are forgetting our culture . Whenever I want to hear some coke studio I usually go with the Pak one. Initailly Coke India had some people who really gave some of the best but then they started remixing nonsense songs with classicals and folk song.
React to coke studio bangladesh man.. They are doing also great
@@Shimulahmed100 Ur ❤️🇧🇩love from✋🇧🇩😊
Aslaam o Alaikum sir: main Pakistan se hon aap sir such kahey rahe ho main aapki BAAT se itfaaq kerta hn is remixing ne tabah ker diya music ko love from Pakistan
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I totally agree. CS Pak has far better songs than CS Ind. I enjoyed their programs when Bilal Maqsood and Faisal Kapadia (aka Strings) were in charge of CS Pak.
Keep your Ears & Eyes on Coke Studio Bangla.
You will definitely Love it.
bro coke studio bangla is the another name of nepotism, Bangladesh have lots of ustad and Senior musician... None of whom were called there...
@shahedbd4
If with the presence of nepotism, these kind of quality musics can be delivered, then, let it be there.
@@sujitroy627 brother coke studio is the face of iur country, we can make much better...
I thought Coke studio India will compete with Coke studio Pakistan & Coke studio Bangla (Bangladesh).
But it was so disappointed. Pakistani & Bangladesh is just rocking it.
Now waiting for India.
Btw, im from bd🇧🇩
Let the whole season get over first. Coke Studio India ko bhi sab aise hi bolte the tabhi aur ab waah waah kar rahe hai.
Why didn't you mention about coke studio Bangla. They are doing great!
Hi Ananya, I saw your first video when you compared CS Pak with CS India earlier. I also commented then that the failure of Pak Film Industry resulted in Creative Music in Pakistan without any big time industry to follow.
But on the other hand we in Pakistan grew up listening to Rafi Sahab, Kishore da, Lata Ji and Asha Ji and we enjoyed musical hits produced by One of the finest music directors in India... So when we visualize CS Bharat, we visualize it in very high standards... But I feel CS Bharat is hastily producing just by mixing various genres in a hoch poch manner. Probably it is because that CS Bangla has also come up in a very big way and somehow they feel threatened and in a haste are doing mistakes
Listen to khalaasi. Nowadays new songs coming out of CS Bharat are better than CS pak new season which is a disappointment.
@@lohithpaladugu6456
Sorry do not agree with you.
@@mubarakmirza8285 have you listened to khalasi? Name one song from the new season of CS Pakistan which is better than khalasi and daljeet's magic
Thank you for your frank review.
From your sharp analysis of the '''musical philosophy of Coke Studio'' and of the difference in quality between the Coke Studio music from Pakistan and India, I am curious about your review/analysis of ''Coke Studio Bangla'' from Bangladesh, which -- you may be aware -- is currently running in its season 2.
Coke studio Bangla doing wonderful job, it is now become the world's favourite channel to watch. It has been one of the most watchful channel in the world my request to the Coke studio Bangla that in the future music should be something different as always. Bangla music are absolutely stunning. I would request that one of the next episode Coke studio season 2 must produce one of the song from Shah Abdul Karim..
You know why Pakistani music is good?
Because most of the Pakistani musicians have strong Family backgrounds in music, so this results very high standards in specially classical music, they can't just release any Random song and call it a day. For example "Kaavish" son of Nayyara Noor, a 16 years old boy took 6 years making an album called "Gunkali". After 20 years we are still listening to it today, there are numerous examples like that "Noori" band etc. The bar for musicians is very high here in Pakistan. India has Fucking 350+ languages and cultural diversity is just insanely big and musicians are outstanding imagine what coke studio India should have done by now if it was on a right track.
Mannnnn seriously Kaavish is just out of this world. Big big fan of them 🤍
Bro... Isn't Kaavish the name of the band and the man you're referring to is Jaffer Zaidi
Indian music overall is much better. It is only coke studio that can be debated but not overall music. Do you even have any music outside of coke studio?😂 And have you listened to non-hindi Indian music?
Coke studio Bangla is doing very well
Very well said, couldn't agree more.
Coke studio has been doing this for sometime, except season 2 which was really good. The problem with Coke Studo India is we try to make a Thali of the music where as Coke studio Pakistan focuses a lot more on vocals in the mix. The Prabh Deep song that featured the rajasthani singer were singing absolutely off-key as I have heard the original singer in his village.
That's true. I agree with your point and i'm also disapponited by coke studio bharat. And the waste part is uses our country's name not an individual artist or label.
coke studio bharat is Dhinchak Pooja of music industry🤣🤣
itna bhi maghrur hony ki zarurat nh indian music Pakistan me her jaga bajta rehta her waqt ok bas coke studio pakistani style me nh ker pa rhy lekin iska matlab ye nh k mazak uraya jaye
@@marvibaloch8041 well said bro❤👏
Yes absolutely right 🤣🤣👍
Epic comment bro 🤣
Epic comment bro 🤣
They need a mastermind for this . Just like Pakistan have zulfi bhai
And Bangla have arnob bhai . They are making history with music .as some example ( yeh duniya, GO, passori. Bangla coke studio also have some like (bulbuli, murir tin , bhober pagol).
HI , Can you please make a video on cokestudio bangla? 2 season relesed, can u chose you best selects from season 2 ?
Pakistan coke studio is far far ahead then indian coke studio
What about kya karie korie moul
Amen, sister! The arrangement and production was abyssmal this time. I hope someone from the Coke Studio Bharat team sees this and takes it in stride.
What your Through about CS Bangla
I m waiting for your every reaction bcoz you know the music very well.
Apko ammi kaisat bazar ki video deki.bohot acha laga.
Ammi ko mera especial salam.
did you see cook studio Bangla.?
Want to know your opinion on Coke studio bangla. Please make a video
Well chosen subject. I used to love coke studio india until season 4. I still listen to those songs today. After that, the show just disintegrated. I think the reason for this is two-fold. The show producers became too greedy, chosing to mass produce small chunks of anything they could get a hold of, and just play it frequently. Second, today's tiktok generation has no patience for art and talent. Today's coke studio india is a shame. Sad. Miss the good old days when music was art and talent.
Wonderful observation and analysis. Tusi great ho. Keep it up.
True that, there are many others who can be approached like Kabir Cafe. We don't have a dearth of artists but the vision at the helm is missing.
Every time I excited when new CSB song releases, and everytime I disappoints.
I listen to Coke studio Bangla instead
Agar time mela to coke studio song Hina ki khushbo per reaction karna plz
oh bhai konsa song suggest kr rhe ho, not a good song to react to
True it's dissappointing... In a few places but with the right mindset it can be revived
In my point of view... India has great classical and folk musicians. But they have a serious lack of quality rock musicians. Without quality rock musicians... You can't make proper FUSION. This is where pakistan and bangladesh is far far ahead from india. finally, you need highly skilled sound engineer to get a top- notch mixing. And without a flowerished rock music scenario, you can't get that level of sound engineering/ mixing/ post production. Creating fusion music is not like creating film- music. Its very much different. But indian music industry/ technicians are very much used to the filmy style of music, which won't help you here. And yes, hip-hop artist/ rappers can't contribute much unless you have a good bunch of MUSICIANS... who can play instruments and compose/ arrange a complete song.
7:30 ye konsa song he ?
It’s Saiyaan from Coke Studio season 12
Insightful as always
Cokestudio Pakistan doesn't use pitch correction or auto tune. All the songs since season one through season 15 are being recorder LIVE
Can u give reaction of Nescafe basement of Pakistan,,, you would fall in love with it ,,,, Pakistani music is seriously diverse
very nice analysis 👌
Indiam Coke Studio Should Appoint Rohail Hyatt ....
I truly agree with you
6:07 : My opinion - That song you heard is absolutely brilliant in terms of musicality. Just listen to the rhythm and bass section. Absolutely perfect. It is not necessary for a song to be always about the composition. Sometimes, the accompaniment can outshine the vocals, and that's also equally musical. Tajdar Junaid, the composer is primarily an instrumentalist, and an internationally acclaimed one.
As for the song Taqdeer, the dissonance is on point. For reference, listen to the classic Abbey Road song I want you, by the Beatles, or for that matter, Sultans of Swing by Dire Strait.
As for the post production, especially mix-master, yes, its poorly done. No defense for that.
Watch Chakwal Group Songs, Kandiyari, Jhol Jhol k and Wah Wah Jhulara (Specially) ... for harmonies ... see how music, instruments and vocal choruses blend together
I think coke studio bharat has all the ingredients and talent to take this concept and run with it in their own unique direction, take it to new heights! 🧡
Yes it's all missing.
Don't know ur age, but you looks very young for all this research.. hats off 👍
"Bhai Kya Chal Raha hai" is the phrase that perfectly sums up CS bharat.
We pakistanis would like to donation our sensationally talented the great Sir Mr Chahat fateh'Ali'khan, to fulfill requirements of coke studio bharat.
Khud ke watan to khairiyat me nahi hai aur Janab hame donation denge, mai Aatta deta hu batao islo bheju ki K-town?
Try to understand sarcasm
The best just dropped 2 days ago in coke studio bhangla the masterpiece call kotha koiyo na just legendary…
Music ki Bohut achi samjh hai apko and maza aya son kr apko⚘
Humesha khosh rah ap
i from Pakistan
The problem is in leadership in India I think. There is no knowledge or priority for music but rather commercial angle and gimmicky stuff. Nobody wants to go the extra mile and do authentic, thought out music - but Bollywood version of folk music bana ke bechna hai. May be if they got someone who is classically trained but younger musician to direct/manage the show it would produce such brilliant tracks.
Uff Rohail hayat sahab🙌🙌💜mtlb k trs gaye hum
Coke studio Bangla doing really well
Good analysis 👍🏼
First few seasons nahi sirf DO seasons mai Rohail ka ghar use hua hai.
Ek season 4 or 5 dusra covid time.
Coke Studio Bangla is making its own path
Holi wala hodgpodge to mujhe bhi acha nahin laga, but Taqdeer, ‘Das main ki pyaar…’, aur abhi ‘kya kari korimol’ to main 10-10 baar sun chuka hun, loving them more and more I listen.
Very good analisys.
Frankly CS Bharat should consult AR Rehman on this. IMHO I think he's the best person do handle this job.
In the term of music instrument there is no competition with Coke Studio BANGLA (BANGLADESH) . You must react to those.
I wouldn't be surprised if Coke Studios began cutting budgets for India.
Listen to "Geejaga Hakki" Coke Studio Bharat its better than other coke studio bharat songs
ek achhe music ke liye acchhe thinkers and visionaries hone chahiye.. 4 chord baja lene se ya 4 bar spit karne se ya sargam laga lene se koi musicians nahi ban jate.
Please make a video in coke studio Bangla
very beautifuly explained coke studio Pakistan ❤
Please comment on the latest Coke Studio Bharat songs. They are really improving. Please compliment them whenever they deserve. Especially if you are criticising them so vocally.
Please make a video on *Coke Studio Bangla*
i am no expert but i also thought Maithili Thakur is better in raw.
Couldn't agree more.. such a disappointment.. Not a single song comes close to the earlier standards.. Way more effort dedicated to makeup, costumes and decoration than the music itself.
Excellent insights and brilliant. Agree with you 100%.
In my opinion the only reason is that the impact of bollywood type music and the compositions of the bollywood songs huge which also reflects in Indian POP Music........How Ever In Pakistan, the non-filmi music was took its place in pakistani society. I am not saying that LOLLYWOOD SONGS were not upto the mark but filmi and non-filmi songs from decades were playing side by side. FROM LATE 80s OR EARLY 90s, The Pakistan non-filmi specially POP MUSIC industry remarkably on the skies......... I remember JUNAID JAMSHED, ALI HAIDER, STRINGS AND SO MANY BANDS HAVE CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHICH PUSHED PAKISTANI MUSIC INDUSTRY ON ITS PEAK
Coke studio bangla is so so 🔥 👌 😍 good that Coke studio India does come one iota even close. 😮 !
i remember i produced a track for an artist in bombay, it was a ganpati song but with ambient new age genre. when they sent me the mix i was like yeh kya chutiyapa kar diya in logon ne...
Very nice video
Hi
Uff i love you. Jusy spoke my language.
The biggest problem I see is a lack of a coherent musical vision and melody (let alone harmony), and some weird obsession with "fusion" with very clunky results. They should have no more than 2 artists per song, make it a single, cohesive song without trying to throw in rap, classical, folk all the time every time. If it is Carnatic influenced, let that be the dominant sound. If it is Rajasthani folk, let that prevail. This season looks like the corporates at Coke have created a "brief" that the musicians are trying to follow. Need a visionary produced like Amit Trivedi, Clinton Cerejo, or A R Rahman (or even Arijit Singh) in charge of the season.
Yes, what you suggested was actually successful in previous seasons. Chaudhary was one such masterpiece. Aao balma was another. Although they did experiments with the instruments but didn’t mix multiple genres/styles and it worked beautifully.
And they were done by all the names you suggested. Amit Trivedi - Chaudhary
ARR- Aao balma
Clinton- Madari
Not sure what Arijit can pull off as a producer.
@@unplugged_ananya I think he's produced a lot of stuff on Oriyon
Ya i agreee...its a whole khitchdi...
Coke Studio is not the benchmark of good music. In India no one gives a shit to Coke Studio as music is dictated by the Music companies, Bollywood and Channels. As a whole they produce lots of blockbuster songs with International awards, nominations and even Oscars. Coke Studio India will become huge if it gives the same lime light what Bollywood music does to an artist.
There are not mixing it well
Love your for this vid Thankyou love from Pakistan ❤️
Nice❤.. I like your opinion
Love from PAKISTAN ✌️💕
India could never get out of bollywood music...bollywood composers will not be able to compose coke studio bharat properly...
Coke Studio Bharat is killing it with their latest songs. your thoughts?
The only problem with Coke Studio Bharat is it evidently seems highly influenced by Pakistani Coke studio style or manner, which coke studio Bharat is lacking understanding of. Jab tak coke studio bharat kuch apna nya nai kre ga, isi tra ka fazool mal hi aata rahay ga. Pakistani Coke Studio k level ka 50% b kr lo to bri bat ho gi.
You are saying that Coke Studio India is influenced by Coke Studio Pakistan that's why they aren't performing up to the mark. You should check out Coke Studio Bangla. Coke Studio Bangla is also influenced by the style of Coke Studio Pakistan. But they're doing immensely great job. I mean Hats off to Coke Studio Bangla. You should listen to their songs. Although I didn't understand the Bengali Language. But it is a saying good music connects your heart. That's what music of Coke Studio Bangla is doing.