The Strange Graphics Of LETHAL COMPANY

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  • čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
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    Lethal Company has some very compelling visuals, but how much of it did the developer make themselves? And how does it all come together?
    Topics covered: Frame capturing, fixed resolution rendering, edge detection, posterization, depth of field, bloom
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    In A Moment's Time - Skullgirls OST
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  • @Acerola_t
    @Acerola_t  Před 3 měsíci +301

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    • @taranjk1
      @taranjk1 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Thamk you for breaking down the furry game. :3

    • @videogames8261
      @videogames8261 Před 3 měsíci

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    • @MrRyeob02
      @MrRyeob02 Před 3 měsíci

      ayo nobody mentions the monogatari openings??

    • @ducks3023
      @ducks3023 Před 3 měsíci +1

      So is off-season next?

    • @dancingtriangle2814
      @dancingtriangle2814 Před 3 měsíci

      I just wanted to mention that I'm not sure if the image does get warped. While it does render at a weird aspect ratio, it also has black bars at the sides of the screen.

  • @cabbageman3195
    @cabbageman3195 Před 3 měsíci +3554

    I would love for this to be a full series where you cover different games

    • @rose_dddddd6476
      @rose_dddddd6476 Před 3 měsíci +83

      RAIN WORLD,
      Would absolutely love a video on their pipeline, although might be a bit hard to do with similar methods since from what I understand a bunch of calculations are pre-baked to create textures that are then actually used

    • @EchoesPF878
      @EchoesPF878 Před 3 měsíci +46

      @@rose_dddddd6476 Rain World is the absolute worst game I have ever played (ignore pfp)

    • @panpedra4798
      @panpedra4798 Před 3 měsíci

      @@rose_dddddd6476 Rain world would make such a good episode!

    • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL
      @kaxcommentssomethingREAL Před 3 měsíci +19

      two words
      Hi-Fi Rush

    • @prospektnova9004
      @prospektnova9004 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Definitely should do an Unrecord cover

  • @KoshakiDev
    @KoshakiDev Před 3 měsíci +3500

    I can't believe the helmet visor is an actual 3D model and not a simple PNG applied over the entire screen.

    • @AaroRissanen-pi4td
      @AaroRissanen-pi4td Před 3 měsíci +570

      Yeah, any sane person would have drawn it as a fullscreen quad of a transparent PNG and done a Gaussian blur pass over it to fake the depth of field.

    • @funguy398
      @funguy398 Před 3 měsíci +249

      Maybe it is lits up sometimes when you are near light source? I can't remember.

    • @AaroRissanen-pi4td
      @AaroRissanen-pi4td Před 3 měsíci +191

      @@funguy398 You could use a normal map

    • @DaDarkDragon
      @DaDarkDragon Před 3 měsíci +193

      ​@@AaroRissanen-pi4tdthat would just add unnecessary overdraw for the entire screen the model while seemingly unnecessary is actually the better choice here.

    • @sambouza
      @sambouza Před 3 měsíci +255

      The thing which pains me most is that it is using DoF, the expensive one for unity, JUST FOR BLURRED EDGES!!!

  • @mikatomik5532
    @mikatomik5532 Před 3 měsíci +2335

    “As usual a huge thank you to ALL my current patrons”
    *My eyes lock to Penile Necrosis*
    Umm. Thank you Mr penile necrosis for paying Acerola to flip the unity render over for us… I’m gonna go now

    • @zolthorg
      @zolthorg Před 3 měsíci

      thanks penile necrosis

    • @SL4PSH0CK
      @SL4PSH0CK Před 3 měsíci +20

      om hate to imagine the image stating the name 🤣

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Před 3 měsíci +7

      im imagining your eyes were behaving like Rapid Eye Movement when you locked on to that

    • @frgtyhjuhngbtyhu4676
      @frgtyhjuhngbtyhu4676 Před 3 měsíci +12

      What surprised me the most was Dan Salvato being there too

    • @prisma.
      @prisma. Před 3 měsíci +13

      Shoutout to Dan Salvato being a patron to hundreds of people

  • @harney-barrow2036
    @harney-barrow2036 Před 3 měsíci +1213

    It's like the graphical equivalent to a 24-bit DAW project file exported as an 96kbps MP3 and then converting that to FLAC.

    • @funguy398
      @funguy398 Před 3 měsíci +139

      And it sounds crispy 👌

    • @atiedebee1020
      @atiedebee1020 Před 3 měsíci +54

      I love this comparison

    • @olly123451
      @olly123451 Před 3 měsíci +56

      @@funguy398and lethal company definitely looks *crispy*

    • @RZ_VR
      @RZ_VR Před 3 měsíci +39

      this hurts my soul, perfect analogy

    • @NoVIcE_Source
      @NoVIcE_Source Před 3 měsíci +5

      lmao yeah

  • @doongi2001
    @doongi2001 Před 3 měsíci +506

    I like to imagine the dev just had no idea what they were doing with the shaders, made something super slow, couldn’t figure out how to optimise it, then just went screw it and lowered the resolution and called it a day

    • @lvleye316
      @lvleye316 Před 3 měsíci +92

      honestly. probably likely cause I can see myself doing the same and calling it stylized.

    • @a1b2c4d1
      @a1b2c4d1 Před 3 měsíci +109

      It's an ex Roblox dev with Lua experience so I'd imagine that's probably the case. Now that he's $20 Million something richer, he can hire a dev team for future graphics if he needs it lol.

    • @thecatbrat42
      @thecatbrat42 Před 3 měsíci +92

      actually the pixelation is a huge part of the devs style, i would recommend checking out some of their other games like "The Upturned"

    • @cjvand3080
      @cjvand3080 Před 3 měsíci +34

      ​​@@thecatbrat42didn't that person also make 'it steals'?

    • @edgarego5813
      @edgarego5813 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@thecatbrat42 dev* he is one guy

  • @Jecket22
    @Jecket22 Před 3 měsíci +1532

    Love how you find out that Lethal Company was made with Unity by dumping assets with an external tool even though the first screen you'll see when starting Lethal Company is "Made with Unity"

    • @bearfm
      @bearfm Před 3 měsíci +24

      real

    • @TrueLimeyhoney
      @TrueLimeyhoney Před 3 měsíci +157

      I think he meant that he knew they were using Unity shaders.

    • @comebackguy8892
      @comebackguy8892 Před 3 měsíci +6

      That's not what he said 🤦‍♂️

    • @valkyire35
      @valkyire35 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What video did you watch?

    • @TheKnewGreg
      @TheKnewGreg Před 3 měsíci +27

      I knew it was made in Unity the moment I walked near the pool of water on March and slid into it, like 3 times. Unity isn't the only engine with capsule hitboxes but I've never seen them so aggressively slippery on any other engine

  • @CheeseWithMold
    @CheeseWithMold Před 3 měsíci +512

    Man, putting the cat video on the screen during the ad read is such a 200 IQ move. I'm surprised more people don't do something like that.

    • @Mister0Eel
      @Mister0Eel Před 3 měsíci +85

      In a comment on a recent video he said it unironically helps keep video engagement up during the ad section. I get why but it still makes me giggle

    • @Hietakissa
      @Hietakissa Před 3 měsíci

      I have SponsorBlock, so I didn't even realize, but that's actually genious

    • @Phyremaster
      @Phyremaster Před 3 měsíci +29

      Holy shit I did not realize I had watched an ad read until I read this... I was just staring at the cute cat lmao

    • @kesorangutan6170
      @kesorangutan6170 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Grand strategy youtuber AlzaboHD does that. He has 2 fluffy tabbies and I never skip the sponsor part of the video due to those cats.

    • @cihadturhan
      @cihadturhan Před 3 měsíci +6

      Lol I skipped that part and came back to view it

  • @vincentl7022
    @vincentl7022 Před 3 měsíci +718

    You can be sure even Lethal company dev learned stuff from this vid

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 měsíci +244

      You think he has time to watch CZcams videos? He has quota to meet.

    • @tinyturtle1898
      @tinyturtle1898 Před 3 měsíci +104

      @@LordDragox412 😂The game is already on version 49, he is grinding

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 měsíci

      @@tinyturtle1898 Great game assets, great great game assets.

    • @satamiko
      @satamiko Před 3 měsíci +8

      Nope. The dev is good himself and is doing things the way he wants to, not the way people tell him to.

    • @werr3222werrr
      @werr3222werrr Před 3 měsíci +49

      ⁠@@satamikobro did not understand what the comment was saying

  • @IgnacioStegmayer
    @IgnacioStegmayer Před 3 měsíci +792

    Just one guy with no shader coding experience made this. That's inspirational as fuck.

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci +269

      Lethal Company is also a good example of what *not* to do when setting up your render pipeline lmfao

    • @neopabo
      @neopabo Před 3 měsíci +76

      Its horrible, please never do this 😂

    • @greatestyoutuber
      @greatestyoutuber Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@crimson-foxtwitch2581i like it so i dont really mind lol

    • @therealpeter2267
      @therealpeter2267 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@crimson-foxtwitch2581 what? what's wrong with it's render pipeline?

    • @kiliangarschhammer8516
      @kiliangarschhammer8516 Před 3 měsíci +183

      @@therealpeter2267 its slow as fuck. The games performance sucks while using low res textures and models and rendering all that natively in 1/4th of fhd resolution. I'm not saying it looks bad or anything, but with a better use of shading tech he could achieve pretty much the same look with 5x the performance.

  • @alexdacat7052
    @alexdacat7052 Před 3 měsíci +108

    seeing all the stuff computers do in a single frame makes me realize how powerful computers really are
    and it's not like this is intensive either

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF Před 3 měsíci +19

      all of that, but then you remember that you wait 3 seconds for a webpage that is less than 2 megabytes.

    • @SchadenfreudeUY
      @SchadenfreudeUY Před 3 měsíci +5

      Maybe that's the reason why my computer can barely boot up Terraria without it exploding

    • @BrianSantosF
      @BrianSantosF Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@MindBlowerWTFserver connections work in a completely different way, I don’t think that comparison makes any sense
      Firstly because the gpu is by far the fastest part of your computer and loading a webpage barely uses it, but also mainly because the webpage is physically coming from literally half a planet away most of the time and the connection is the bottleneck. All these render calls are made locally and calculated inside your computer on parts just a few centimeters apart on nanometer based architectures, so obviously it will be orders of magnitude faster. When people invent portals that warp internet cables you can start comparing their speed to gpu tasks

    • @SomeRandomPiggo
      @SomeRandomPiggo Před 21 dnem +1

      @@BrianSantosF I don't think the network is the bottleneck in a lot of cases, modern browsers are just very heavyweight

  • @mosti72
    @mosti72 Před 3 měsíci +385

    Loved the video! Although, I think chromatic abberation is also used in the game several times, such as when you're being chased, or when you look at other player's dead body.

    • @Acerola_t
      @Acerola_t  Před 3 měsíci +249

      yeah it's also an fov change

    • @arti6okk
      @arti6okk Před 3 měsíci +35

      ​@@Acerola_t there are also cracks on the helmet glass. I guess they appear once you recieve some damage. and they become very visible inside the facility on a dark background under the light from lamps. so it's interesting when they're drawn if they react to lighting

    • @af2280
      @af2280 Před 3 měsíci +16

      @@arti6okk I've been wondering how that's done, I assumed it's a plane in front of the camera with a transparent texture and a weird normal map, but I wasn't able to get it looking quite right when I tried it

    • @LiamS2005
      @LiamS2005 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Acerola_t I thought it looked closer to changing the lens distortion than just FOV, could be both

    • @catpoke9557
      @catpoke9557 Před 3 měsíci +13

      @@arti6okk The cracks are always there damage or not

  • @paramarabo
    @paramarabo Před 3 měsíci +275

    I understand why they didnt use occlusion culling in the dungeons.
    Unity requires you to bake the occlusion data with static objects already in the scene, but since the rooms are procedurally placed there is nothing to bake.
    There ARE third-party dynamic occlusion systems available that can do this at runtime though.

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos Před 3 měsíci +59

      There is a way to do this that has been popularised in other games, you configure each spsce as a module containing predetermined occlusion. It's not perfect but *really* saves on overdraw and it allows for hot-loading/unloading modules and assets with very little additional work. What you're seeing here is someone who brute forced their way through by lowering the render resolution until it worked. I think that's great but I hope they come back and fix it up at least a little before moving on.

    • @4.0.4
      @4.0.4 Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@orbatosdoesn't that kind of approach use up a lot of space though? Since you'd have so many textures for each combination.

    • @clang8649
      @clang8649 Před 3 měsíci +11

      I don't have any experience with Unity or graphics programming but why can't you just bake some occlusion culling into the map when generating the layout in the loading screen?
      Or if baking is too slow why not just limit it to adjacent rooms?

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠@@clang8649Baking that kind of stuff is too slow even for adjacent rooms due to how ancient Unity’s systems are for handling this stuff are. On Unreal this is a non-issue lmfao

    • @arpiabu-alrub7484
      @arpiabu-alrub7484 Před 3 měsíci +1

      what does "bake" mean in this context?

  • @sodapop6610
    @sodapop6610 Před 3 měsíci +329

    As someone who's just now learning how to optimize the performance of a game, this was deeply insightful. That's also a ridiculous amount of drawcalls... Those drawcalls were definitely multiplied by the shaders and post processing he is using. For anyone wondering, shadows and lighting are horrendously expensive for games.

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci +79

      this video is also a good analysis of Lethal Company’s performance issues on lower-end PCs. Long-story short, the devs picked the wrong rendering pipeline lmfao(forward rendering would have been much better for this game)

    • @sodapop6610
      @sodapop6610 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@crimson-foxtwitch2581 I haven't even gone that far to know the difference between forward and deferred rendering. After importing some grass into my unity project, I was caught off guard by how many more triangles my assets consumed in the scene. Scary seeing how much the rendering pipeline affects the triangle/vertices count and drawcalls :(

    • @ZylithDev
      @ZylithDev Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 dev*

    • @latestsofdisarraysurvival
      @latestsofdisarraysurvival Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581honestly there are multiple light sources here and there. So imo forward+ seems to be the best option

    • @CFDuffLumi
      @CFDuffLumi Před 3 měsíci +76

      @@crimson-foxtwitch2581well, I’m pretty sure the dev didn’t think the game would blow up the way it did during the early access, so I don’t think optimization was ever a priority here, lol. But of course this can be fixed later down the line

  • @maksymillian
    @maksymillian Před 3 měsíci +2335

    babe wake up

  • @minifluffk
    @minifluffk Před 3 měsíci +52

    One things I really love about the game's visuals is the fact that not only are they realistic at first, they're stylized in a way that the game footage genuinely does look like some sort of LiveLeak, low-quality footage
    (though I'm not one to watch THOSE videos so maybe I'm wrong)
    Which helps tons for the workplace gone wrong mood the game has.

  • @Maagiicc
    @Maagiicc Před 3 měsíci +183

    I've never really been into game development, but I really want to make a game in the art style of Lethal Company , It Steals, and jdh's game

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci +13

      just make sure to pick a faster rendering pipeline like, idk, *forward rendering + URP*?

    • @Charduza
      @Charduza Před 3 měsíci

      Idk the art style is cool but I would prefer something else

    • @Cheeseburgerlove
      @Cheeseburgerlove Před 2 měsíci

      It steals and lethal company were actually made by the same guy.

    • @khaleelmorris
      @khaleelmorris Před měsícem

      Same

  • @ferenc_l
    @ferenc_l Před 3 měsíci +85

    I love watching videos about graphics programming without actually doing graphics programming

  • @CallMeFon
    @CallMeFon Před 3 měsíci +88

    By the way, the helmet is not just a mask, it is a full-fledged helmet in which a camera was inserted, this can be understood when you use mods that you can freely move the camera, if you look at the point where your character stood, you can see flying hands and a comically large helmet.

    • @NickiRusin
      @NickiRusin Před 3 měsíci +38

      - can I have quota fulfilled?
      - only a helmetfull
      - *pulls out comically large helmet*

    • @LordTrashcanRulez
      @LordTrashcanRulez Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@NickiRusin Funniest Lethal Company player

  • @PhilipLL
    @PhilipLL Před 3 měsíci +53

    The off kilter origional resolution to native resolution ratio actually kinda works. (Which really surprises me). I think its because it matches shitty work cameras and the low effort rendering and ui design you often find on professional software. Like you are operating some shit software for a minimum wage job.

  • @Saplingbat
    @Saplingbat Před 3 měsíci +74

    It's kind of crazy that all of this can happen up to 144+ times a second. Like actually wild

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF Před 3 měsíci +11

      apparently it can't looking at all the people complaining about performance xD
      But it is amazing how there can be nearly 20 000 of complex calculations done in 3-4ms on different units, in different memories.

    • @thisrandomdude2846
      @thisrandomdude2846 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I KNOW RIGHT
      computers are so fricking cool.

    • @BrianSantosF
      @BrianSantosF Před 2 měsíci +10

      And imagine if it was optimized lol
      At ideal circumstances I think it the same graphics and effects would be running at about double the framerate or slightly above that
      But yeah you can get away with a very surprising amount of stuff nowadays. Yet big companies (cough cough also the city skylines example again and anything made by CDPR) fail miserably at it all the time
      This is not even near the limit of where we can get btw. Doom Eternal runs at 1080p with max settings ray tracing at better framerate than this game. Literally.

    • @SomeRandomPiggo
      @SomeRandomPiggo Před 21 dnem +2

      @@BrianSantosF id Software are the last people who actually optimize their games well. Even Source (2) runs terribly now when before it had Quake's genius PVS algorithm to quickly figure out what is visible and what isn't

    • @LXLNOCU
      @LXLNOCU Před 13 dny

      gpu tech is crazy too

  • @oivinf
    @oivinf Před 3 měsíci +39

    4:24 The huge "UNITY" logo every time you start the game didn't tip you off?
    In all seriousness though, good and interesting analysis

  • @Gio_Panda
    @Gio_Panda Před 3 měsíci +36

    Putting a cat video during the ad break must be the smartest thing I've ever seen done on youtube.

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm Před 3 měsíci +17

    I second the comment about doing this type of video for more games. The hardest thing about shaders for me, is that I can't seem to make the connection between the raw shader effect, and its usage in-game. But when someone points it out to me (like you), it makes complete sense. You provide that moment of revelation. Thank you. Please make more :)

  • @icaroamorim3123
    @icaroamorim3123 Před 3 měsíci +27

    CPU is officialy Doctor Phil in Acerola Lore.

  • @DigitalJedi
    @DigitalJedi Před 3 měsíci +39

    Lethal Company is to me, a great example of what games should be doing with the crazy rendering techniques and hardware. They've clearly put a lot of effort and time into getting the game to be rendered with a very unique art style. It's pretty easily recognizable as Lethal Company from every screenshot I've seen. I'd rather see more games with cool styles and rendering tricks like this than the 587th hyper-realistic ray-traced release that 12% of steam users can run at native resolution.

    • @copordrop
      @copordrop Před 3 měsíci +17

      I mean if you watch the video it's clear the dev wasn't making a ton of choices to create this vibe, rather fell backwards into it. I don't wanna bash them too hard but its clear they were simply just doing things and didn't have this vision of what the game should look like lol. It's a low res render (not even accurately done to a 16/9 aspect ratio), volumetric fog, basic posterization, and edge detection. Most of which is likely code pulled directly from the internet

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi Před 3 měsíci +14

      @copordrop The fact it is made this way doesn't change my opinion on the state of game graphics and even reinforces my point.
      Games need to get their unique looks back, Yhe fact somebody can stumble into something so recognizable as you claim they did, only makes it even sadder we don't see other games make the choice to go down the route of a distinct look. If it's possible to just fumble around monkey-typewriter style and end up with something like this, then the effort floor of making something visually unique is clearly very low.

    • @TheCynicalJedi
      @TheCynicalJedi Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@copordrop If you think the dev wasn't making intentional choices to create the vibe the game has and fell backwards into it, how do you explain their other games having the same art style? Zeekerss on Steam, It Steals, Dead Seater, The Upturned are their previous releases in order, all very similar art styles and you can see the progression from It Steals all the way through to Lethal Company
      So I'm pretty sure they did indeed have this vision of what the game should look like... Impressive how happy you are to crap on someone based purely on your own assumptions when 2 minutes of research would have shown you otherwise lol (Edited because typos lol)

  • @ZinxBDW5727
    @ZinxBDW5727 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I love how he put a cat on the side of the screen so people can watch the sponsorship without watching the sponsorship

  • @implozia1360
    @implozia1360 Před 3 měsíci +17

    I wondered how Lethal Company made its graphics for ages and I am so happy you of all people covered it! Thank you! Definitely inspiring!

  • @implozia1360
    @implozia1360 Před 3 měsíci +25

    The genius behind the cat video during the sponsored ad is incredible. I wish more people done that xD

  • @danielegvi
    @danielegvi Před 3 měsíci +10

    I always see people saying Lethal Company has "potato level" graphics, but from day one I knew this game was doing some nifty stuff behind the scenes before stylizing the crap out of it. The way that a jetpack's flame reflects all over the company moon when flying around, and the way the moist walls in the facility reflect the light of a scrap lamp when a crewmate is carrying it around, it's all pretty impressive, even with all the pixelation going on. The turret's laser is one of the most masterfully done lighting aspects in the game imo.

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 měsíci +1

      it's PotatOS (Portal 2) level graphics.

  • @killingtimeitself
    @killingtimeitself Před 3 měsíci +26

    im guessing the weird resolution stretch is intentional, presumably to add some noise to the moving image and probably also some weird blurring. Since pixel interpolations aren't perfect, it leaves the output in a weird mix of high res and low res, It's terrible for media transcoding. But for video games, could be clever use of visual artifacting.

    • @ScheelAngel
      @ScheelAngel Před 2 měsíci +2

      Creates a very clear image of rough graphics. Like everything in the world sucks. It’s so enjoyable honestly, I love the graphics

  • @cailreagh9398
    @cailreagh9398 Před 3 měsíci +25

    Holy good LORD look at that Acerola graphic. You little tiger you!

  • @767corp
    @767corp Před 3 měsíci +18

    Crazy man that in this day and age games still render full environments even if player is in doors and looking at wall.
    Good analysis, hope it turns into series ! 👍

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci +13

      the reason Lethal Company does this is because Unity does not ship with any methods for dynamic occlusion culling. Unreal, however, has dynamic occlusion culling *by default.*

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket Před 3 měsíci +7

      ​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 I didn't need another reason to avoid Unity like the plague but thanks for giving me one anyway.

    • @ImJustJAG
      @ImJustJAG Před 3 měsíci

      Interesting ​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF Před 3 měsíci +3

      And then You read a book on Doom and how it does occlusion to be somewhat performant on hardware from the era. Damn.

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin Před 3 měsíci +1

      Modern devs think that users resources are limitless. Unlike pioneers like quake that literally had to INVENT out of scratch things like dynamic occlusion

  • @caelanireland-lk6rf
    @caelanireland-lk6rf Před 3 měsíci +11

    Acerola ive seen you grow from the start and i love your content! You got me into graphics programming!

  • @ZenkaiGoose
    @ZenkaiGoose Před 3 měsíci +10

    Acerola is probably my favorite channel to watch lately. I love the breakdowns

  • @Bit_Crust
    @Bit_Crust Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've got to keep some of your videos on a playlist, they feel like a course overview, as though they'd let me skip an entire course for the gist of it and apply what I need right away. Thank you for doing what you do. In this video alone is enough information to construct my own unique graphical style, perhaps even intentionally. In seriousness, each one gets my mind racing faster than I can keep up, it's a lot of information presented very well in a short span.

  • @HBD-Captain-kw8lm
    @HBD-Captain-kw8lm Před 3 měsíci +1

    @Acerola_t, I subscribed not only for your content, but for your unique practices such as the many GIFs used to explain things and my favorite: the cat during the sponsored message. This is such a good way to get people who would normally skip past a sponsored message (such as myself), to actual sit and pay attention.

  • @tonygamer4310
    @tonygamer4310 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I can confirm that the resolution of the game is a major reason why it performs well. When using a mod to upscale it to 1080p, my GPU is basically on fire. Even at more reasonable resolutions, I'm still seeing temps upwards of 90 degrees on my 3070. My assumption was that it was mostly due to the post processing, but HDRP would also make a lot of sense
    also, having started writing my own mods and decompiling the game now (2 months later), can confirm that HDRP eats up a massive chunk of per-frame render time. Unity's built-in profiler basically only registers HDRP as causing any lag whatsoever, with other code being very minimal in impact. I wish I could see how bad the volumetric lighting is, but that appears to be bundled in with other passes, so it doesn't show up in the profiler separately. I've been working on mods specifically to optimize the game performance recently, although my focus has been more on the raw code (specifically code involved in loading that can easily take 300+ ms per frame) rather than rendering. I'd love to optimize the rendering, but I also don't think that simply reducing graphics settings is a good enough solution. It _works_, but I feel like there has to be a lot that the game does that could be faked effectively without harming performance significantly. There's still not much I can do about the general slowness of HDRP though. That part is pretty well baked into the compiled game, and modding it away wouldn't be particularly easy I don't think

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Not gonna lie, as an artist who has dabbled with 2d and 3d computer graphics, I've been wanting really complex lighting on simple scene forever. =)

  • @NotMithical
    @NotMithical Před 3 měsíci +1

    1. LOVE the new new title card
    2. I had actually considered asking about this game in your chat the next time you streamed even though I'm not active there, but I rarely manage to catch one of your streams. Really glad to see you taking a look at Lethal!

  • @yazeed_0o0
    @yazeed_0o0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love how this game really fits many topica u discussed before as if u made the game before. Love this series I hope u continue doing it it's so informative.

  • @alvarorodriguez1592
    @alvarorodriguez1592 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I'll just comment after I hit like. You deserve a ton of success in your edutainment career!
    I'll take a look at that real time rendering book. Please continue presenting the elbows on table way to learn this stuff.
    Kudos

  • @shadowofcat
    @shadowofcat Před 3 měsíci +22

    please make a behind the graphics for ori and the will of the wisps, i loved that game and would love to see a video about it!

    • @Acerola_t
      @Acerola_t  Před 3 měsíci +37

      a lot of that is hand drawn artwork rather than shader work, it's a very beautiful game though

    • @SL4PSH0CK
      @SL4PSH0CK Před 3 měsíci

      ngl sounds like its time for a series towards game graphics

    • @Lishtenbird
      @Lishtenbird Před 3 měsíci

      There are GDC talks on graphics of Ori available, if you're interested. Also, for a bit of extra, Digital Foundry did a deep dive for the Switch port recently - I believe some tech parts were mentioned there too.

  • @JoneNascimento
    @JoneNascimento Před 3 měsíci

    I wasn't expecting much of this video. I got right most stuff of the pipeline just by looking at it but the in-depth analysis of what really matters makes this video a must see. Nice work!

  • @MrPatben8
    @MrPatben8 Před 3 měsíci

    Crazy how quickly this channel has become one of my favorites! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @Lucas-vb1ql
    @Lucas-vb1ql Před 3 měsíci +28

    you are in my top 10 human beings list

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm Před 3 měsíci +6

    You run the most inspiring easily digestible high quality valuable information packed channel for graphics. Thank you.

  • @thecompl33tnoob
    @thecompl33tnoob Před 3 měsíci

    Dude, I cheered out loud when I saw you had posted a new video. Second/third/affirm the comments that say you should make this a series - only if it helps you in your journey, of course. Your videos focused on helping beginner game devs get intermediate-level skills are fantastic, and really inspiring. Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @Corncycle
    @Corncycle Před 3 měsíci +1

    these videos are so fantastic and get me excited to learn more about graphics programming :)
    lethal company has such a visual charm to it, and its fascinating to see the unconventional choices that were made to give us such an interesting game, even if it is at a bit of a performance cost (which imo is more than acceptable for a game made by a single person)
    thanks for reporting this stuff with your knowledge and hard work, you're creating an amazing resource with this channel

  • @SokoBuilds
    @SokoBuilds Před 3 měsíci +3

    awesome video, I really liked learning about the stylizing

  • @SuperWeapons2770
    @SuperWeapons2770 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I think this game is genius in that these post-processing effects basically let them use low poly graphics that look great

  • @milkshakemarsupial693
    @milkshakemarsupial693 Před 3 měsíci +2

    i really like this idea for a video. maybe this could become a series where you explain how specific games do their art

  • @user-fj9bh7kt7t
    @user-fj9bh7kt7t Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, got randomly suggested and I must say I really like your style! Didn't even know you could just debug a frame rendering like this, good stuff

  • @lilywinsor4591
    @lilywinsor4591 Před 3 měsíci +3

    there is nothing that provides me the motivation i need to finish out this software engineering degree like a new upload from acerola

  • @JoeAbunga
    @JoeAbunga Před 3 měsíci +5

    LETS GO ITS ANOTHER ACEROLA VIDEO

  • @CapTheNPC2
    @CapTheNPC2 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't usually watch videos in my recommended feed, but damn I'm so glad I did today.
    Great video! You got a new sub!

  • @leefletz
    @leefletz Před 3 měsíci

    this is such an interesting video, i had no clue so much went into frames! ive certainly learned a lot today :o

  • @U_Geek
    @U_Geek Před 3 měsíci +6

    Actually, it isn't that hdrp is MEANT to be slow. It just give you to choices to make your game run slow. Rust was ported over to hdrp a few years back and it looks amazing while performing well even on older hardware like a gtx 970.

  • @cantsu
    @cantsu Před 3 měsíci +4

    omg an interesting video about a game I like, but also omgomgomg there's a sponsorship containing cute clips of a cat!!!!!!!! I love this channel so much

  • @davidmc971
    @davidmc971 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video, love the breakdown! Really like rendering styles like the one from Lethal Company.

  • @robinsix4020
    @robinsix4020 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hi there Acerola, really enjoyed this format!
    I hope you'll cover some other games with interesting visuals such as Lethal Company, whether they're considered beautiful or not, the provided information are gold.
    Also, happy new year!

  • @octagear
    @octagear Před 3 měsíci +3

    The new intro logo is indeed pretty cool

  • @ochk
    @ochk Před 3 měsíci +3

    CLIMAX RETURN FOR THE RECAP FUCKED ME UP😭😭 great vid

  • @ariatari2137
    @ariatari2137 Před 3 měsíci

    I didnt know you before but I see you have some dev knowlage like me and I really like this frame breakdown video. Hope to see more. Glads

  • @chrjs90
    @chrjs90 Před 3 měsíci

    More Behind The Graphics! I love that! Thank you for that great content.

  • @BeatCrazey
    @BeatCrazey Před 3 měsíci +14

    imagine how slow lethal company would run at full resolution...
    Although gotta give the dev credit for using ray-marched volumetric effects and having them matter for gameplay.

  • @meplaygamezZ
    @meplaygamezZ Před 3 měsíci +3

    A very good a and interesting video! Nice work!

  • @bomb00000
    @bomb00000 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Flip8ing amazing stuff on you Acerola and the dev, and here I thought it was some simple stuff

  • @ohmanohman...
    @ohmanohman... Před 3 měsíci +1

    absolutely sick video, hope you dive into more games like this (also the va11halla background music yummy)

  • @jeffffff
    @jeffffff Před 3 měsíci +20

    I think they also are using that ps1 effect on the walls in some areas? I know when you go to sell the giant wall is all weird and wobbly.

    • @Acerola_t
      @Acerola_t  Před 3 měsíci +42

      oh yeah that's parallax mapping (not affine texture mapping like ps1) lol i shouldve covered that oops

    • @kairu_
      @kairu_ Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@Acerola_tdont worry, the video is still like spaghetti, and spaghetti its pretty good

  • @firkinflamer8604
    @firkinflamer8604 Před 3 měsíci +18

    This video felt a bit more similar to your older style. I like it

    • @suspecm6316
      @suspecm6316 Před 3 měsíci +8

      the guy's been making videos for like a year the hell you mean older style

  • @ItsaJuraff
    @ItsaJuraff Před 3 měsíci

    This is fascinating. I don't know anything about computer graphics, but you explained it in a way that was easy for me to understand (and funny). Thank you!

  • @hackticdev
    @hackticdev Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent analysis. This kind of content is extremely useful for anyone working on 3D graphics for their own games

  • @hallowedbythyframe
    @hallowedbythyframe Před 3 měsíci +11

    I was thinking of doing a graphics study of Lethal Company knowing it would be bad, didnt know it was this bad. Great vid

    • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
      @crimson-foxtwitch2581 Před 3 měsíci +4

      yeah, Lethal Company is a good example of what *not* to do when setting up your game’s render pipeline

    • @goober324
      @goober324 Před 3 měsíci

      I mean it works​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581

  • @EchoesPF878
    @EchoesPF878 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Mr. Graphics has done it again

  • @Mikepet
    @Mikepet Před 2 měsíci

    Never in my wildest dreams i would have thought rendering one single image is that complex. You always learn something new! Fantastic!

  • @DaBomber60
    @DaBomber60 Před 3 měsíci

    What an incredible insight into the render process, stellar video!

  • @JohnnyBackwater
    @JohnnyBackwater Před 3 měsíci +13

    I think part of lethal company's success is its uncanny graphics, and that it was probably intentionally made look like that.

  • @equinoxowl
    @equinoxowl Před 3 měsíci

    One of your most interesting videos! I loved this deep dive with explanations. As a digital artist whose main tools are Blender and Photoshop it’s super insightful and interesting!

  • @austinrichard8046
    @austinrichard8046 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome
    So nice to see this behind the curtain look at a uniquely shaded game

  • @BadhamKnibbs
    @BadhamKnibbs Před 3 měsíci +4

    Coming from the modding side of this game to add a note about the dungeon taking so much longer to render: The dungeon isn't static geometry, it's generated at run time so it can't use occlusion culling like the surface of the moon can. Furthermore, the dungeon also uses entirely dynamic lights as it can't spawn static or baked lights at run time.

    • @Hwyadylaw
      @Hwyadylaw Před 3 měsíci +5

      It's not like it *can''t* be done better. It's just that it's not as straightforward as using what Unity gives you.

    • @IDontWantAnAliasMrGoogle
      @IDontWantAnAliasMrGoogle Před 3 měsíci +4

      Dynamic occlusion culling can absolutely be done, it's just not built into Unity currently. For a game like this, where you have clearly defined areas (the rooms), it honestly is not crazy hard to implement this system yourself, and that alone would likely improve LC's performance a ton.

  • @maxemore
    @maxemore Před 3 měsíci +34

    So, some optimizations they could make is:
    1. use an overlay or a cheaper blurring method for the helmet
    2. Use geometry culling to hide certain areas behind walls which shouldnt be visible
    3. render the game at a perfect ratio resolution for the monitor its being displayed in, such that theres no stretching
    4. posterize the colors instead of the volumetric lighting to improve performance

    • @GeneralZimmer
      @GeneralZimmer Před 3 měsíci +10

      Half of these will come at a compromise with no real benefit tho. Even a 4 year old laptop could run this game just fine.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na Před 3 měsíci +28

      cheaper blurring on the helmet yes, but no overlay. the helmet does actually reflect light, and doing that again with post processing just makes it expensive again
      definite yes to culling
      3 and 4 don't cost performance and are a stylistic choice, so I don't think those need to be changed

    • @AndreInfanteInc
      @AndreInfanteInc Před 3 měsíci +16

      Most likely the reason they aren't using culling is because Unity's built-in culling tool requires a baking stage, which is an awkward fit for a roguelike where the levels vary so much. There are solutions for culling in dynamic levels (especially ones that are indoors and have fixed portals between between areas), but it's not "check a box" thing like the default Unity culling is, and there are a lot of clues in this breakdown that imply that the people who made LC are not incredibly experienced developers. Which is fine, they made something people love anyway!

    • @Acerola_t
      @Acerola_t  Před 3 měsíci +57

      only the 1st and 2nd would improve performance, number 3 would just make it so that the visuals can be more consistent at higher resolutions and 4 would be an entirely different visual style with no performance change as the volumetric light has already been calculated so it's free to apply as many times as you want (aside from the texture sample cost)

    • @dubblesnup4457
      @dubblesnup4457 Před 3 měsíci +1

      For number 4, as far as I know that wouldn't increase performance as the volumetric pass is already rendered and is just being added back again (after being posterized)

  • @cheychc
    @cheychc Před 3 měsíci

    This was such a cool video! Thank you for the breakdown!!

  • @semmehh
    @semmehh Před 3 měsíci

    Please make more of these! It was great from a entertainment standpoint but also contained a ton a valuable knowledge that my little brain can subconsciously absorb!

  • @Lena-qg8bd
    @Lena-qg8bd Před 3 měsíci +4

    god i love your videos

  • @typhoonanimations
    @typhoonanimations Před 3 měsíci +4

    This video made me drink water.. for some reason...

  • @nguen101
    @nguen101 Před 3 měsíci +2

    0:47 love the monogatari style intro

  • @jajoxlol
    @jajoxlol Před 11 dny

    Just found my new favorite youtuber, feeling good.
    Fr tho amazing video, keep it up man :]

  • @teh1archon
    @teh1archon Před 3 měsíci +6

    😂 oh wow, I would never have guessed it uses the HDRP. I wouldn't be surprised if it's kind of a joke for the developers. Very entertaining and insightful episode 😊

  • @KaikeCGR
    @KaikeCGR Před 3 měsíci +3

    Such a Brazilian name you have.... hmmmmmmm

  • @thebutterflyking
    @thebutterflyking Před měsícem

    Thank you for sharing your genius with us and putting time to make this quality content. I always laugh at the little quips and jokes or gifs/memes

  • @Badrion
    @Badrion Před 3 měsíci

    I like the pace, good video! Thanks!

  • @ImpossibleEvan
    @ImpossibleEvan Před 3 měsíci +3

    Lethal company has a low style graphics and yet it still runs terriblly

    • @HarrisonWeber21
      @HarrisonWeber21 Před 26 dny +1

      Never had an issue with it. Think it might be a you issue

  • @Weangered
    @Weangered Před měsícem

    Patreon is pumping nice good to see every time gl

  • @Xyrothim
    @Xyrothim Před 13 dny

    Dude. You're actually genius for putting a video of your cat playing during the ad. This is the first time I didn't skip an ad. Bravo!

  • @arpiabu-alrub7484
    @arpiabu-alrub7484 Před 3 měsíci

    This was an amazing video, I loved it so much. not to mention learnt alot!

  • @QuireSpire
    @QuireSpire Před 3 měsíci

    Man, this was precisely the game I wanted to see you cover. Danke Schoen, my friend.

  • @chickad33productions26
    @chickad33productions26 Před 3 měsíci

    I've always kinda been the type to play a game and actively try to figure out how the devs did things. Adding shaders to the list of things I watch out for has been a fascinating experience and an absolute rabbit hole of knowledge I'm happily diving into

  • @waitisthatcobalt
    @waitisthatcobalt Před 3 měsíci +1

    awesome video as always my guy

  • @soshizoru2498
    @soshizoru2498 Před 3 měsíci

    omg this video is such a life saver! Im trying to make a vr game with graphics similar to this and I had no idea how to approach it! this is incredible