Does Coconut Oil Clog Arteries?
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DESCRIPTION: Sellers of coconut oil use a beef industry tactic to downplay the risks associated with the saturated fat in their products. Here are the two saffron videos I referenced: Saffron for the Treatment of Alzheimer's (nutritionfacts....) and Saffron Versus Aricept (nutritionfacts..... The spice may also help with PMS (nutritionfacts....) and depression (nutritionfacts.....
Think my water in Coke joke was too over the top? When a corporate exec was asked on the stand (www.mcspotlight...) if Coca Cola was "nutritious" he said that it is "providing water, and I think that is part of a balanced diet."
More on meat industry hijinks in videos like Meat Mythcrushers (nutritionfacts...., Cattlemen's Association Has Beef With Study (nutritionfacts...., Unsafe at Any Feed (nutritionfacts...., and my blog post E. coli O145 Ban Opposed by Meat Industry (nutritionfacts.....
The "compared to butter" bit reminds me of the "compared to pork" nuttiness: Nuts and Bolts of Cholesterol Lowering (nutritionfacts.....
What was that thing I said about saturated animal fat and endotoxins? See my three part series: The Leaky Gut Theory of Why Animal Products Cause Inflammation (nutritionfacts...., The Exogenous Endotoxin Theory (nutritionfacts...., and Dead Meat Bacteria Endotoxemia (nutritionfacts.....
Have a question for Dr. Greger about this video? Leave it in the comment section at nutritionfacts.... and he'll try to answer it!
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People don’t like to hear bad things about their favorite things. 🤷🏻♂️
Especially when it's a bunch of lies !!!!!!
I buy lite thai coconut cream, not oil. It may have some oil in it. It can get thick but it doesn't harden. Its better in your coffee than cow cream and because I cook with water and not oil 1 tablespoon a day doesn't hurt, infact I feel satisfied after my first morning cup. I can get faint or hypoglycemic if I dont have coffee with a little oil in it.
@@thinkinoutloud.1 Did you know dietary fats and oils are the most common deficiency in North America. That's why so many people are using lip balm, skin lotion and other moisturizers. Eat more fats and oil. They are not the enemy.
Avoid highly processed oils.
DO NOT USE CANOLA,CORN OR MAZOLA OIL. FRYING OR DEEP FRYING SHOULD ONLY BE DONE WITH SATURATED FAT.
@@herbbowler2461 yes, a little oil and some fats are probably good for you. I think people who eat them have healthy softer skin than those who do not.
@@thinkinoutloud.1 There is no downside with a high fat and oil diet , as long as they are fresh and unharmed by processing.
Avoid chemical loaded oils and G. M. Os. Like canola and corn oils.
I'm glad I never jumped on the coconut oil bandwagon. I've always been suspicious of the claims. Staying away from oils in general is the best idea, while eating a handful of nuts daily is as well.
+NobodysBusiness Yeah well this was made in 2013 and two years later they are saying you NEED cholesterol for a healthy brain and heart and statin drugs are actually giving people alzheimer's and heart attacks. So eat up and stay away from Crisco submarine lubricant.
***** Good luck if you are taking a pill for something that should be a natural thing to treat. Have you ever wondered how our species even survived without taking all those damned pills they want to stuff down your throat? I'm proud to say I'm a "pill free" CRACKPOT and the only pill I take is a A-Z vitamin. Grew up on all natural foods and herbs. If it's not true why are they taking statin drugs off the market now?
+sgeo2008 interesting, and yet every year there are more pills and life expectancy keeps increasing. Funny how that works.
Steven Miller
... and those people who are living longer are still eating healthier and more organic, the pill poppers are dropping off left and right you idiot. There are some of us who don't buy into the bull shit that our fellow humans actually care. So do you think I believe you do? GTFO!
+sgeo2008 well you seem like a mature reasonable person and you did provide all kinds of evidence backing up your claim. Yes you're obviously brilliant. You showed us all the lack of intellect you're dealing with, doing the opposite of what a moron like you do is probably great advice.
Bottom line, oils are not whole foods, and will never promote health the way a whole food can!
So you're going to get all the fats your body and brain needs every day from what whole foods? *crickets*
Nonsense
@@fifteenbyfive uhh... Yes. Where do you think these oils come from..? Coconuts, Olives, Avocados, Peanuts, walnuts, cashews, sunflower seeds, flax seeds, chia seeds. All WHOLE foods where you can get your HEALTHY fats from. Did our ancestors have a cold oil press? *crickets*
@@bobbys2643 Crickets? Nobody is going to be able to eat 100 cashews or 75 pecans a day to get the recommended fat intake on a 2000 Calorie/day diet and even if we suspend reality and say they did, their omega 6:3 ratios will be a disaster and they'd be better off not eating them at all. I didn't deny sources of oils, what I implied is that they're never going to get enough. You have to pound down ALA until it's coming out your ears to get the DHA your brain needs and that's just not going to happen.
@@fifteenbyfive you're just wrong. You just are. Chia seeds are strong omega 3s and 6s. If you're pretending that it's hard to get enough whole fats on a vegan diet you are very mistaken, my friend. I said crickets cause you did. ☺️ One serving of chia seeds is 4915 mg of omega 3s. Men only need 1600 women 1100. Even so, the only way in the SAD you're gonna get it is fish. And fish comes with more problems than the amount of ala and dha my friend. Stick to nuts and seeds. You'll be much better off. I say this to help you. 100 cashews is an easier feat than it sounds. However a serving of cashews is much lower than 100 PC.
It astonishes me why people think pure liquid fat is healthy... It makes absolutely no sense
You do realize you are pretty much a blob of fat...
Nathanxiangdarby You are a blob of blood, does that mean you should eat blood, moron?
+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ and that blood is made out of fat, protein and a little carb.....so yes you should ......
+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ That's no rebuttal. There is no "a priori" reason to think that liquid fat is inherently unhealthy. And olive oil obviously disproves your non-refutation.
+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ Ad hominem is not going to help your cause. Olive oil is near-universally accepted by medical and nutrition professionals to be good for health, with wide-ranging and powerful health benefits. Indeed, there are hundreds of studies which show as much. It can't do that if it has "little to no nutrition". There are dozens of micro and macronutrients in olive oil that endow it with its healthful properties. Just because you are not aware of them or stick your head in the ground does not mean they are not there. Are you denying that olive oil is beneficial to health?
Also, why is oil "refined" fat? There are refined oils (and fats), and there are unrefined oils (and fats). If you want to have a methodical and scientific debate, respond properly instead of throwing out anti-scientific blanket statements and insults. Otherwise, don't bother.
I guess I'll have to stop baking cod liver cupcakes...
lol. Yea, there goes my favorite snack of all time!
Just like grandma used to make
🤣
I was born and raised in Kerala India [Kerala happens to mean coconut]. The only oil traditionally used in Kerala is Coconut oil. Everything is cooked in coconut oil; coconut oil goes on our hair faces and skin daily; our babies get massaged with coconut oil. Traditional life is virtually saturated in coconut oil. But, alas, we are traditionally deprived of heart disease, Alzheimer's, atherosclerosis, cancer, obesity, diabetes and ALL the advances of the science saturated countries. The only people blessed with these are the rich folks in the big cities who take up Western 'food' fashions. Other things we miss out on are wrinkles, arthritis, osteoporosis, and grey hair. Please forgive me; I am not a scientist, just a little black girl raised in a forgotten place in the jungle. Mary Kuriakose
Who cares about your personal experience?
@@jtaiv2798 personal experience is valid
Thanks SO much for your comment. I recently started taking 1 spoon of coconut oil a day and wow do I feel so much better everywhere!
@@ianhesfordsort of but India is full of heart disease I read not just from wealthy so called western types just from massive intake of ghee. This comment was likely very poorly informed if well intended. It's all moot without these magical figures from the blessed region with no illness.
@@jtaiv2798- Really??
Most people watching this video wants to learn about health benefits/side effects of coconut milk/oil.
Anyone’s personal experiences is a plus in learning.
my new favorite youtuber
R u serious ......
Dr. Greger is healing my husband.
It's been four years. How's the husband now?
I’d also like to know
Cuckold
It’s been 84 years…
I never use any oils. I do, however, eat a raw coconut about once a week. I've noticed that it seems to help moisturize my skin, hair, and nails.
American saying coconut oil is bad for you then they are actually promoting other oils.In kerala,India people were using it for centuries and no anyone died by heart attack because of high cholestrol levels.Now the people are having high cholestrol levels beacause of swapping to some other oils.
@sairah laira Most of the cholesterol found in serum is produced by the liver. Foods don't need to have cholesterol to raise cholesterol. That said, nobody can identify the causal mechanism between cholesterol and heart disease. There is only correlation.
@@fifteenbyfive Are you dumb or just stupid? There is a plethora of science to show a CAUSAL link between all animal products and some (only processed) other products. Our liver produces ALL of the cholesterol our body needs. The reason our number 1 killer is heart disease is because of our high intake of animal products.
@@bobbys2643 no, seed oils like canola oil, vegetable oil, corn oil and soybean oil that Americans eat everyday cause heart disease.
@@yulloveyullove326 find me a study. That's what you believe, prove it.
Coconut oil is one of the best, specially if it comes from Kerala, the coconut paradise!!!
I believe Dr Gregor over any coconut oil quack, his opinion is based on scientific studies while the online quacks don't back up their claims. Raw coconut meat is a tasty snack but I never use coconut oil.
Thank you! Someone with common sense. All of the coconut oil worshipers on here are stupid and think they're medical doctors. And you don't need to just take Dr. Gregers word for it.
www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/by-the-way-doctor-is-coconut-oil-healthful
www.webmd.com/diet/features/coconut-oil-and-health#3
Here are many other reputable, world renowned clinics saying that coconut oil isn't great for you. So who should we trust? WebMD and Harvard or these keyboard doctors in the comment section?
Keyboard doctors...I like it!
Theres a HUGE difference between Coconut Oil and Virgin Coconut Oil.
i trust dr berg, not a dr promoting sugar and carbs
JZGamers
It's not about which Dr. is more trustworthy, it's about which Dr's sources are more trustworthy.
wait, so....DOES it clog arteries? I wish he'd do conclusions at the end of these. for ppl like me who cannot keep up with his ultrafast pace
if its coldpressed coconut oil no. if its heated coconut oil then yes.
Not what the science says. Did you watch the video?
What the most current science states NO saturated fats is not the cause of clogged arties. Red meat is the cause of clogged arties.
GeekBoy03 I think if you move outside of the popular press this is not what they're saying. The cocoanut industry has done a brilliant marketing job. Nobody can doubt that. Personally I don't let marketing decide what I put in my mouth. Find me some credible peer reviewed science that isn't industry sponsored that proves eating cocoanut oil is a great idea. It's better than butter! That much I'll give you. Just eat whole nuts and seeds. They are actually good for you. Be well.
so much misinformation. inflammation, Apo(a), small dense LDL in a high LDL-P = CVD
for heart calcification get UVB from sun and take epsom salt baths.
the best case against excessive beef is colon cancer if no gut health/fiber
mostly I use it as moisturiser and tooth paste.... I don't eat it.
Same here :)
+Adam Webb
eat some?
+Adam Webb Coconut oil as tooth paste? wut?
+Sayuas Mixed with baking soda. Some use it as deodorant also.
+Sayuas yeah dude, mix with baking soda and works better than any toothpaste I've ever tried. In fact I haven't bought toothpaste in 6 months now it works that great. Makes your teeth shiny smooth and white!!!
I have been having coconut oil for 3 years now. Bulletproof coffee in the morning, cooking with coconut oil and adding it to food. My overall cholesterol is a little higher, but my ratio is so goo that the doctors congratulated me on the high level of HDL and my ratio. And lost 20 pounds on the bargain.
Do you know why scientists do controlled trials and statistical analysis instead of relying on anecdotal evidence?
The ratio is not everything. The level is. And your weight loss is probably the only reason your cholesterol hasn't skyrocketed. A friend of mine was swearing by coconut oil to lose weight, all the way up until his first heart attack.
Great! Just don't be overly buoyed by that high HDL number of yours. Beyond a certain minimum required for optimum health (60mg/dL) increased HDL confers NO additional health benefits AT ALL! Of course, that means any ratio involving HDL, such as total cholesterol:HDL, is essentially meaningless. Dr. Gregor and Dr. Gil Corvalho at his CZcams channel explain this in detail.
Sorry to disappoint you I've been taking coconut oil for a year my cholesterol level went down so I'm going to continue taking coconut oil thanks
agree.. me too... avoid consuming processed food like nuggets, fish/meat balls, and fast food..... more fish and vegetables + fruits !!!
But your experience is anecdotal. Just because that happened to you, doesn't mean it will happen to everyone. Also, what was your diet before you started eating coconut oil? What is it now? What is your lifestyle like? Other factors in your life could have contributed to your higher cholesterol levels. Are you subbing it for butter? How much did your cholesterol level go down? Basing the validity of coconut oil as "healthy" on something like your ONE personal experience is ridiculous. Thanks
coconut oil is "processed" food, why not just eat coconut meat instead?
love how. companies that process food into packaging get people to defend their cause. you can't make a lot of money selling coconut so squeeze oil out of it package it. create awesome marketing to push so called good qualities and get people to drink 2 tablespoons of oil that is equivalent to fat content of 10 coconuts. an amount Noone would ever eat but will drink. smh
Correct. But why let scientific facts get in the way of mumbo jumbo surrounding food?
And when it comes to those chocolate cakes, it is the refined sugar, the wheat gluten and the dairy that causes the inflammation, not the fats.
I thought this a bit more confusing than useful
"Confusing" should have been a red flag. Now six years later I posit that this information is more dangerous than useful granted the context in which the video began.
I'm so confused. So many CZcams videos preaching the incredible health benefits of coconut oil and many videos stating coconut oil is not health at all. Who to believe?
yes there are some studies that show coconut oil as healthy. The problem is everyone is showing a study trying to prove what they say but they all contradict themselves.
Coconut oil is good for making your own beauty products, like hair conditioner or body lotion, personally I wouldn't eat much of it.
Just listen to your body, some doctors are "drug pushers".
Hate to break it to you coconut oil lovers but it would be best to stay away CO.
I remember for a week I was doing coconut oil pulling and on a Sunday afternoon, I had signs of a heart attack. My sister is a RN, and is continuing to go higher in the field.
For about two weeks or so, I had my right forearm, throbbing a couple times in a row. Never has this happened to me until o started taking coconut oil.
Stopped using coconut oil for a while and a few days ago, started using it as a Deodorant mixed with baking soda. Helped with my odor a ton but now just yesterday, Sunday afternoon my right side of my chest started to throb a bit.
And now not too long ago, I felt a sharp pain on the top right of my head. A strange feeling still lingering there.
A lot of the coconut oil has been absorbed through my armpits , which is my guess.
I don’t think I’ll be messing with coconut oil anymore. This stuff is not doing me good.
@ Jose B LOL!! I've been eating coconut oil daily for 18 months and have had no problems. Your "heart attack" was probably caused by all the sugar and processed carbs you've been eating along with that coconut oil
forget it...most people are too stupid to work this out. I only cook with VCO, and eat a spoonful a day at least.
Dear Mr Gregor, I love your Life Work to make at least my life so much easier by you doing a lot of research and comparing test and research and sharing it with us.
Regarding this video I have a question: are the test results based on processed coconut oil (hydrogenated) or on non-hydrogenated virgin coconut oil? I so much like to know this as I wonder if that would make a huge difference on the 'is it good or bad for your health' when using it in smoothies (non heated) or baking with/in it
remember heated coconut oil and the press coconut oil is different
I decided to experiment on myself. I had my cholesterol numbers done (it was fine) then for one month the only change I made was to add 1 to 2 tablespoons of coconut oil a day. When I checked the numbers again my LDL was the same and my HDL had gone UP! And now, finally, the news is reporting that the cholesterol you Eat affects you very little as compared to the cholesterol your body Makes. Which, btw, it is only doing to protect you from whatever it is that is already going wrong in your body. Lower it at your own risk (statin users) if you haven't fixed the problem. Doctors who prescribe statins should be sued for malpractice.
yeah,doctors are only out to make megabucks and don't give a shit about peoples health.
Thanks for sharing your story. What about total cholesterol?
What happened to cholesterol?
As I pointed out above, we now have solid research showing that higher HDL confers NO health benefits at all. It IS the 'good cholesterol', but only up to 60-100 mg/dL. Beyond that, zero benefits at all. You'd best go back and look at your other numbers, especially LDL-cholesterol and Apo-B.
You know nothing about coconut oil. We in South East Asia take it orally everyday and many die of old age with no ailment.
I'm passing on the cod liver oil cake.
Well, try the two-week challenge I did! Put the coconut oil in a refrigerator, cut out chunks and shew it till it turns to liquid.
#1 you will never need a dentist again you will notice a difference in the first week.
When you take a blood test you take the Cholesterol and divide it by your HDL, which gives the risk factor. Coconut oil is an Omega 3 acid which raises HDL.
Star with Tatar control and I promise you will be amazed. Will also remove cavities take the two-week challenge you won't believe the outcome!
Wow, that's really something. Good for her. There has to be something to this. I know a lady who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three years ago and was given 6 months to live even with chemo. She started eating organic vegetable and fruits along with her treatments and is still alive and in good spirits. I met her this summer and you would never know she was sick. Her doctors said they don't know why she is still alive. I hope you keep doing well.
Is she still alive?
I wish you doctors could agree on something...one lot says this is good the other lot say this is bad...from what youre all saying is maybe we should eat nothing
sean kinnane ugh... AGREE
Some doctors think all nutritional components are the same. Like natural sugar & processed sugar. This is the problem.
@@AceDeclan true you should eat whatever makes your body feel great don't listen to doctors listen to healthy people who eating those healthy fats and carbs for years. Same story with Eggs, Walnuts/ nuts in general.
@@ChrisAnderson1986 Cocaine makes my body feel grrrreat, I'll follow your advice.
@@goku445 Just don't over eat it/ too many leaves, as with other plants. you'll have to balance it.
Why not tell the truth about LDL cholesterol? It's the small dense particle in LDL that's problematic.
Dietary cholesterol does not automatically equate to serum cholesterol.
You talk as though cholesterol is a bad thing; Isn't our brains made up of mostly cholesterol? Aren't most if not all hormones made from cholesterol? I know the sex hormones are.
No one has ever died from high cholesterol, as a matter of fact if you are over 65 you will live longer with higher cholesterol.
Ever since we (as a nation) have been following the food pyramid we have become sicker and less healthy, and for the very first time in human history our children will not live as long as we will (boomers).
*Who are you shilling for? Who is really paying you to make these statements?
Another ad brought to you by the Pharmaceutical industry and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.*
Right on, Bass Player! You have been reading the reliable sources.
Joao Coelho
hahahaha /s
Bass, you are right. Here are some good materials on the subject:
www.docsopinion.com/health-and-nutrition/lipids/ldl-p/
perfecthealthdiet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/O-Primitivo-Cholesterol.jpg
Joao Coelho The fact that he says "no one has ever died from high cholesterol" is an indication of how little research he's done on any of this. Familial hypercholesterolemia is fatal.
PeanutChoco1 "Familial hypercholesterolemia" is a genetic disorder that has little or nothing to do with dietary cholesterol and it is treatable.
There is inevitability someone that tries to sync some obscure relationship as somehow connected to the topic.
Nice try!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY EVERYONE TODAY IS RECOMMENDING COCONUT OIL NOW?!?!?!
THEY SAY IT'S ANTOFUNGAL/BACTERIAL PROVIDES WEIGHT LOSS, AND ARE MCT'S THAT DISSOLVE IN BLOOD.
THIS VIDEO SAYS IT'S ARTERY CLOGGING->INC CHOLESTEROL->LEADS TO HEART DISEASE.
WHAT'S THE TRUTH!!!!!
Coconut oil definitely can raise your ldl cholesterol, however, it is oxidized ldl cholesterol that clog arteries. That's why he was talking about how coconut oil is not inflammatory like animal fat is at the end of the video, which raises questions that it does clog arteries. Inflammation from lifestyle helps oxidize ldl cholesterol.
The problem with what he is saying is that the basic premise of he assertion is a scientific fallacy. To be specific the truth is that cholesterol is your best friend and not the demon that it has been characterized as. As such the fact that coconut oil can raise your cholesterol is completely irrelevant. Without getting specific, cholesterol is the most misunderstood and incorrectly quoted element in the human body. When you don't consume cholesterol your body will manufacture it because it is essential to life. Cholesterol goes up when inflammation in your body goes up so that it can repair damaged tissue. Proper tissue repair equals longer life. Statistically the oldest people in the world have high cholesterol. Pharmaceutical corporations are not interested in truth. They are only interested in disseminating bullshit that will increase statin drug profits. That being said, dietary balance without over consuming anything is intelligent approach to health. Check out the book, "The Cholesterol Myths" Cheers!
ive commented above that i think would interest you ;)
watch " enjoy eating saturated fat", and "Oiling America" which might be the truth!
There are a lot of studies that dispel the lipid hypothesis first forwarded by Ancel Keys which influenced the FDA food pyramid. Recent information has pointed towards carbohydrates as the source of small particle size LDL which is responsible for atherosclerosis (clogging of arteries). Our bodies (especially our brains) are built with fats and cholesterol. Thinking cholesterol is evil is what got America to it's present state of obesity and heart disease. It is currently being re evaluated and some of us are integrating this new information into our lives and reaping the rewards of better health.
In those studies they used hydrolysed coconut oil, in stead of unprocessed coconut oil. That's why those studies give no beneficial and/or even unhealthy outcomes. Read 'Coconut cures' a book by Bruce Fife. (See chapter 4)
And cholesterol are the 'firefighters' trying to repair the arteries, they are not the cause of the damage but the helpers. Just like firefighters did not cause the fire.
I like the way you put it. Our liver produces cholesterol for a reason. It is not the enemy. Most people absorb only about 5% of the cholesterol. They eat
It increases LDL but it also increases HDL. It's the ratio and molecule size that really matters.
This video is based on a false belief that there is "bad cholesterol" when in fact, there is no "bad cholesterol". What has been labeled as "bad cholesterol" is actually not cholesterol at all, it is a protein that delivers cholesterol to the cells, which need it to function properly. Eating fats, cholesterol, and butter is not bad for you, but in fact, the opposite- extremely healthy for the body and brain. What is bad for you, is sugar and breads (that turn into sugar in the body). As well as processed foods, most oils, etc. except coconut oils in which the fats are very healthy.
+Peter Nordstrom sources?
+Peter Nordstrom I agree with you. however when one is vitamin K2 deficient, LDL apolipoproteins do contribute to atherosclerosis, partly with SFA, partly with PUFA content (the most). When you have adequate intake of vitamin K2 (at least 30 mcg) atherosclerosis stops or even reverses.
+Peter Nordstrom so then what in your opinion causes heart disease.
+Angelina Goes Vegan Ⓥ Simply a lack of selenium, causes cardiomyopathy. A lot of middle aged heart specialists have died of that one! They still don't get it, and especially athletes run dry of nutrients quickly because of their extreme lifestyle and the lacking foods of today.
Eskimoes relished meat and especially fat. Dogs ate most of the meat. They had almost no chronic diseases or cancer like any natural tribe, but they did have cardiac trouble around the middle age. Their diet however was extreme with no balance, so one can wonder.
+Angelina Goes Vegan Ⓥ One word: Inflammation. Same with cancer.
Correct Saturated fat does raise cholesterol. It raises HDL, which is the good cholesterol, and it also raises pattern A LDL. which is not the bad kind of LDL. the bad kind of LDL is pattern b. SD LDL.
SDLDL is caused by:
Individuals who consume a high amount of carbohydrates in their diet - especially refined sugars.
Those that consume trans fats in their diet. (Margarine)
Anyone who has uncontrolled diabetes.
Individuals who have been diagnosed with metabolic syndrome.
And Cholesterol does not cause atherosclerosis, it is part of the material, macrophage, fribrin, calcium etc, that forms the plaque in the arterial wall after an ‘insult’ to the endothelium. So atherosclerosis is actually the ‘scab’ over an injury caused by such things as high blood pressure, high blood sugar, trans fats, or small particles from cigarette smoke
to name a few.
Cholesterol has been described as the fire engine at a fire. You always see them at the scene of the fire but that doesn’t mean they started the fire.
You can of course simply delete this post as you wish or promote the use of coconut oil for use for the value of the fatty acids it contains (as an alternative to the consumption of animal fats)
So in other words Dr.Greger is not taking it far enough to the right conclusions on coconut oil. And generalizing that all cholesterol is bad leaving out the details of the science .
Tom Goff Well done Tom, now gives us the scientific fast to refute my 'nonsense' and who are my cranks. (trick question, they are scientists)
You are better off looking at the meta research, where numerous studies with hundreds of thousands of subjects are subject to peer revue. Unfortunately most of the evil science comes from the US, were the original low fat guidelines came from in 1977 after Ancel Keys proffered his spurious research to support the his lipid hypothesis.
There you go again, name calling. You jump to the defence of Keys and acuse me of 'repeating nonsense' where I made no reference to "sensational books" You discount any thing that is contrary to you beleifs, a tactic honed by Keys, and the Harvard School of Medicine, in dealing with anyone who questioned his Lipid Hypothesis. There was no refuteable evidence in Keys work but he was politically adept at denegrated his competition. He only had his work accepted by the American Heart Association when he made it onto the executive committee. Take up your argument with Nina Teicholz and you will fall at every 'objection' Science doesn't care what you believe.
Tom Goff "The Big Lie" A hackneyed approach of the paranoid psychotic!! "It must be true, I read it on the internet!! You bring back memories of Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf.
“libelling a dead researcher . . . “ J’ACCUSE!!!
The only thing I used coconut oil for is my hair, and sometimes skin.
Me too. I have kinky hair
I use coconut oil for stir frying. While I don't think it's the superfood that it's hyped up to be, it's better than soybean, corn, safflower, sunflower, canola, and other vegetable seed oils that are high in polyunsaturated fats. Those polyunsaturated fats oxidize all to easily, especially when heated up.
I don't think I'll be buying or ordering deep fried foods again. Most restaurants reuse vegetable oil many times over in their deep fryers. This means that the deep-fried food is loaded with oxidation products, carcinogens, trans fats, and other harmful substances. This multiplies one's risk of not only a heart attack or stroke but also cancer, diabetes, dementia, and Alzheimer's Disease.
Cod liver oil Chocolate cake?!!??!
+gesus44 sounds like a strange choice over butter, but hey, to each their own...
+gesus44 interesting points ,if anyone else is searching for coconut oils benefits try Niposcu Coconut Oil Adviser (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my mate got excellent results with it.
gesus44 ewww heeeheee
Joe Sapphire Coconut oil is healthy. So is butter and milk
Bluesky RAW butter and RAW milk...yes.
If you're keto-adapted like that of a newborn child that breast-feeds, you burn fat for fuel rather than glucose (or very little glucose). Resulting in less inflammation from said glucose and a better functioning brain and no arterial inflammation from glucose that is the actual cause of cholesterol getting stuck in said arteries from arterial inflammation.
Educated.
i think youre pretty much right. i also think that you pick your fuel. if you chose high quality fat then leave the carbs. if you chose carbs (natural good quality) leave out the fat. as long as you each both with neutrals (greens) i thibk youre ok. I read lots of reports on plant based diets with heathly outcomes and good reports on keytonic diets with healthy outcomes. but mix them together and your in shit lol. :)
Travis Sherwood
I miss my offspring back when they were little.
***** Fatty liver disease develops from excess fructose, especially free fructose, consumption.
Kidney damage and intestinal cancers have complex factors effecting them. An excess consumption of protein can be one factor but only when under consuming vegetables as they have countering protective factors that grains do not offer. In fact a normal consumption of meat combined with an over consumption of grains is just as risky as only over consuming meat for intestinal cancers. Also it's been shown that dairy consumption is protective against gout and gout related kidney stone formation.
Of course little of that even matters for a ketogenic diet because the goal of the diet is to keep protein to the minimum requirement to prevent lean body mass wasting along with keeping carbohydrates low. Too much protein actually will kick someone out of keto faster than too many carbs.
I usually agree with you, Dr. Gregor, but here, we part ways. Coconut oil is an amazing solvent for denser fats that clog arteries, organs, and pores. If you have grease on your hands and use a finer fat, it will cut the grease and make it easier to clean your hands. That's how I understand raw oils like coconut and olive work in the body to cleanse the arteries. Even though coconut oil is a "saturated fat" it is liquid at body temperature. Yet I would never ingest heated oil - or use oil to cook, for something happens when food is heated that doesn't work well in my body. My bottom line test is this: if the dish can be cleaned with just hot water, without soap, then I feel comfortable with the food. A huge bowl of blueberries doesn't require soap... and neither does a spoonful of coconut oil. A friends's mother began feeding her Alzheimer's-stricken husband a couple of tablespoons of coconut oil a day and he improved immediately. She knew he was well when he started arguing with her like he had years before.
ahh, the wonders of subjective opinion (minus the inconvenience of scientific experimentation)
1too3fore - Apparently, there has been no study proving that saturated fats are bad for you at all: OK, so let's design a study to test what fats are good for you and what fats are not. Oh, Wait! It's already been done! From 2004 at ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/5/1102.full - "Mozaffarian et al (4) report the opposite association. They found that a higher saturated fat intake is associated with less progression of coronary artery disease according to quantitative angiography." Carbs seem to be the culprit in coronary artery disease.
And from a 2010 article in the same American Journal of Clinical Nutrition... reporting on a study involving 21 studies and nearly 350,000 people... scientists discovered that there wasn't enough proof to link saturated fat to either heart disease or stroke. From ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/3/535 - "Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat."
And then there might also be a huge difference between cooked and raw oils and fats. My body is my laboratory and my experience says there is. Might be the element of cooking, heating, that makes fats not so good for us. Now THAT would be an interesting study.
Actually, lots of studies have proven saturated fats are very bad for your brain and heart.
1too3fore - Can you refer me to a few of them? I'd like to read them. Can you find me some that differentiate cooked versus raw saturated fats and vegetable versus animal saturated fats? Thanks.
ACIMessentials do an internet search on "saturated fat dementia" and "saturated fat heart disease".
everything in moderation and you will be OK.
A Tbsp or less of unrefined coconut oil in a well balanced plant based diet that includes lots of fruits, veggies, whole grains, and exercise is perfectly fine. Fight me.
I have been using coconut oil and palm oil and lard and butter all my life. I am now 72 and very healthy.
Last time i checked my blood pressure 102-60. I don't do any proccessed food or dairy. Except butter
In the US use only organic butter
My grandpa is 80 and smokes everyday. He is in perfect health! Guess that means smoking is good for you!
I don’t believe what you are saying. coconut oil is very good for you my cholesterol levels have come down, so I will be continuing taking it
Check out dr.berg about coconut oil. You might like the guy.
Good fats are not the problem. Combining them with carbohydrates is the problem.
Notice in the comments the coco nuts never cite a reputable peer reviewed study (like Dr. G does in all his videos)? Nuff said...
+Darren Gordon LOL. And how does ANY of the studies that Greger cite here support the title of this video?
It amazes me how easily fooled some people are by quacks who rattle off a few studies. My favorite is Greger using a protein study (i.e. high protein) to bash low carb high fat diets.
And why is Greger quoting the meat industry when bashing coconut oil?
***** LOL. Your confirmation bias is hilarious. I have to commend you on applying logic to your argument.
I'll take a look at the rebuttal to the Siri-Tarino study. This piqued my interest since rarely do you see a rebuttal of a meta-analysis.
The hilarious part is that you never apply the same logic to the studies you cite.
Here's a good example...
[For example, it did not attempt to measure what people ate when they did not eat saturated fat.]
You then go on to cite several studies but don't bother to ask the same critical questions...
You and I have been over your studies and I have pointed out similar problems (e.g. what kind of PUFA?) which you promptly ignored due to your confirmation bias. You're a hoot.
Btw, have you ever looked at the experiment Stefansson did in 1930 after his polar explorations? He and Anderson ate ONLY meat for a year in a hospital setting. I'll dig it up for you if you can't find it. Like the Inuit they lived with for years earlier, they both did just fine on meat protein and saturated fat. LOL.
*****
[Good luck on your journey and thanks for the laughs.]
I don't know if Tom's a vegan, but he sure is good for a laugh. He likes to appeal to authority and their "expert opinions" when they agree with his beliefs. ;-)
***** [your assertions and claims are exposed for the nonsense they are]
Assertions that you used to misrepresent and now do not even bother to state in your rebuttals. LMAO.
Exposed? The only thing you've "exposed" is YOUR ad hominem assertions and claims about other people.
[no wonder you are so desperate to warn people off from looking at the evidence summarised in such reports.]
Thanks for another good laugh. I have repeatedly suggested that you read the evidence that YOU cite.
btw, did you look at the evidence the IARC referenced to make their outrageous claims about meat and cancer?
How 'bout the evidence used by the two recent Harvard studies on statins?
***** [Gee,what do you think those studies I cited were?]
They certainly weren't what he asked for. LOL. What you cited were "expert opinions".
"I asked for medical research that demonstrates correlation between dietary fat intake and CVD"
Did you look up the Stefansson medical research in 1930? And I'm pretty sure Stefansson and Anderson don't have the protective Maasai gene. ;-)
I only use coconut oil to lightly grease the pan for whole grain pancakes as it adds a lovely flavor and a bit of crisping. I also like it occasionally for skin and hair. :) It smells great and lasts for ages, but yeah, the saturated fat aspect = use sparingly.
My thoughts exactly. I use it every day, but very sparingly.
Oils and fats do not go INTO the blood stream. So how can they clog arteries??? The liver is highly intelligent and knows that fats cannot be placed into water (the blood). So it builds multitudes of HDL carriers so that the fats, vitamins, enzymes etc, are transported THROUGH the blood not placved IN the blood.. The cellular wall has lipids which are like gateways that marry to the HDL carriers (particles) and take from the HDL that which the cell requires. A huge problem today is that Statin drugs force the liver to produce small HDL particles which penetrate the artery walls and now you have lumps (cholesterol building a wall around the oxydising HDL particles) next comes the scab ( ) which when it breaks away can block the arteries downstream. Coconut oil, veges, fruit, nuts, seeds, fish, meat, eggs - Eat them all. Eat colours and variety - the more the variety the more the body functions. Exersize, Eat well, laugh, dance, walk, run, LIVE!
well if we blame the statins that force the liver to produce small HDL particles which penetrate the artery walls... so how do we answer the blood plague that build up before people consume statin. how do we answer this study ?jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=286620 www.ajconline.org/article/0002-9149(62)90152-2/abstract were those bravemen has been consuming statin before they die ?coz they have blood plague since they are young. and how about this ..... www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jar/article/PIIS0368131969800207/abstract am not working for big pharma nor selling their product, i dont care about them, i think their statins is not the problem of the arteries clog. the diet is the problem. i have seen a study 100% reverse of CVD by plant based diets.... so those meat is not necessary needed.
Christo Okulian Hi Christo - The plaque that has formed on the arterial wall is basically the same as a scab on your skin. Imagine there may be dozens of these scabs if not more and sooner or later they will break away and travel downstream. Poor diet - meaning anything that was not around 100 years ago - I call non foods - if eaten multiply the problem such as table salt (sea salt & pink salt however R excellent). sugar, stress in all its forms stresses the arterial wall (& organs) & trans fatty acids (junk food,processed non foods like margarine,flat pack cheese and meats etc) - so to answer your question: If a poor diet / lifestyle situation has already produced plaque (which is NOT a build up of cholesterol but of the resultant healing ie: scabbing), then taking statin will exacerbate the condition. BTW no one has ever died from high cholesterol -
I took Statin for 3 little weeks when suddenly I found I could no longer make a fist and my legs began to seize - I threw the pills away and was lucky to heal -It took 2 years after just 3 weeks of taking the poison to completely heal. Please note your GP is not educated in why you shouldn't take statin but in why you should. There is now a new disease recognized as Statin myopathy.. Many lives are being ruined and some 30 diseases including liver disease is emerging as the result of statin use. Problem: if you research anything that hinges on natural cures or is objective to drugs on a site ending with org / gov / cancer institute etc etc do not expect to find the truth, Sorry but that's the world today - However, there are people like me who know that all you really need in this world is to return to the now imaginary world of 50 plus years ago and eat what they did - no fast foods-no fried stuff-no soft drinks-no packaged or processed foods-no margarine - no fake milk nothing labelled low fat - diet - zero etc Go for fruit-veges-nuts-seeds-eggs-full cream milk-full cream cheese-full cream butter - understand your body craves oil, fat and glucose not carbohydrates and fructose - high cholesterol is healthy - 25% of the cholesterol in your body is in your brain (brain food) - your thyroid is a cholesterol guzzler - cholesterol and UV light makes vitamin D3 - By making smaller HDL your are transporting less Vitamins, less oils, less cholesterol and all the other fat soluble nutrients to the cells - High cholesterol equals longevity - It's all up side down my friend-Final thought "Cholesterol was never heard of until they invented margarine" I was there
Thankyou!!
VLDL IDL and LDL are the lipid carriers
HDL collects junked cholestrols to make bile, homones, Vitamin D....etc
If coconut oil is bad, then why do oceanic populations that use coconut oil in abundance have less heart disease, less diabetes, less cancer, less hypertension, and less of any other degenerative disease that American populations on the SAD diet? I lost 60lbs of fat and normalized cholesterol levels when I started using Extra Virgin Coconut oil 4 years ago. Coconut oil liquefies at room temperature (72 degrees) so it does not clog arteries.
That would be the Kitvian's that the vegans get so hot and bothered about. According to Squeaky, they should be dropping like flies.
I've used coconut oil to combat candida and in the process of killing off the yeast, it improved my skin. That is my personal, first-hand experience. My blood pressure has been a consistent 115/60 over the past six months I've been taking 2T of "extra virgin," i.e., cold pressed coconut oil a day. Again, no egghead research, but my personal experience. The saturated fats in coconut oil are medium-chain fatty acids, which your body processes directly into energy, NOT resulting in the cardiovascular damage caused by long-chain fatty acids found in meat. I like eating meat too, but how much is the beef/dairy industry paying you guys?
Nutrition about fats is so tricky, there appears to be a downside to each type. For example, polyunsaturated (e.g., chia, hemp, flax; anything with Ω3 or Ω6) are fragile and can oxidize and go rancid quickly.
Andréas Remis PLANT BASED VEGAN what causes oxidizing and how to stop it?
Milan Stankovic Time, improper storage, heat. Best to get fresh, in small batches, and grind at time of use!
Tnx! I gueess its not good to store flax seed powder also...nice one.
Milan Stankovic I'd recommend storing whole flax seeds instead and grinding only just before use.
+Line Broe unfortunataley it won't help. first of all, PUFA autooxidize even in closed dark bottle after about 3 weeks of storage. Second, human body has low ability to carry safely PUFA. Vitamin C and E won't prevent oxidation. When you reach limit of about 15-20 grams per day of PUFA consumption your triglycerides will sky rocket, doubling or tripling presense in blood. Thrid. Most of sold oils have very high (up to 50%) content of trans fats. Trans fats do not contribute to health at all. Actually they're toxins which destabilize body functions. 4. PUFA omega-6 are proinflamatory since PGE2 are derived from them. 5. Most people use oils for frying which is very bad idea.
Glad to see the research here. It is important to keep learning and growing. I know many like taking opinions and turning them into facts. Proper scientific studies although hard to create shows what the numbers are sayings and that is a start👍
Sorry mate, your video is not accurate. VCO is awesome. Saturated fat is not the problem.
I stopped using coconut oil a long time ago. In fact, I hardly recommend to use oils because of their chemistry change during high heat.
I blindly bought a jar of coconut oil a few weeks back and started researching it afterwards instead of prior to buying it.
Well at least I hear that it makes for an excellent skin lotion
Awesome video, you're a blessing Dr, thank you.
Coconut oil is used in a lot of cosmetics, and supposed to be good for the skin. Would absorption through the skin be a problem if one's cholesterol is too high?
You're shifting the standard of proof from showing that saturated fat causes heart disease, which it doesn't in the largest studies every made on the subject, spanning tens of thousands of people and decades; to showing that LDL is associated with heart disease (which it is) and saturated fat is associated with high LDL (there's a slight association and we don't know if it persists long term).
The flaw here is that LDL isn't "bad cholesterol" and only certain patterns of LDL are strongly associated with heart disease. Large, LDL particles aren't associated with heart disease. This pattern of LDL is seen most frequently in people who eat a lot of saturated fats and not a lot of processed junk.
Small, very numerous LDL particles are linked to heart disease; this pattern of LDL cholesterol is most frequently seen in people who eat processed junk which is not infrequently dripping in cheap, easily oxidized, omega-6 laden vegetable oils, fake fats like margerine and simple sugars.
Saturated fats also raise HDL. "Good cholesterol" which is associated with lowered risk. So you're back at square one trying to prove that saturated fat causes heart disease.
Another problem is that you don't want low cholesterol; you don't want to minimize heart disease risk at the cost of all else because total cholesterol below 140 is as bad as cholesterol above 260. Would you rather die of heart disease or neurodegenerative disease or brain hemorhages?
Another curious fact is that in the largest studies done on vegetarians, they don't live longer and they have just as much heart disease. They have less colorectal cancer, but they have greater risk of neurodegenerative disease. I wouldn't make that trade.
Nor does he mention coconut oil's touted anti-microbial, anti-fungal properties.
There are plenty of things that are both of those, that are not oil. That's like saying "Well, he didn't mention that cocaine makes you lose weight." Doesn't sound too smart when you put it like that, does it?
I would happen to disagree, my ldl and hdl were very bad and my tris were very high! I switched to coconut oil for cooking and a little olive oil for dressing. my ldl in hdl went into a great range and my tris tanked to normal by 180 points, so don't tell me it doesn't work!
You are correct. This guy is not a scientist and doesn't know what he's talking about.
Wow! Dr. Geger just explains studies which are published in magazines in his entertaining way. He "spreads" the information for the "normal" people. :-) I watch his videos in Germany and enjoy them very much!
oils are worse only if they are mixed with carbs..
Saying something is 'healthy' or 'unhealthy' doesn't actually mean anything.
whats that Zem? say wot?? I think diving into battery acid is unhealthy! I know stuffing Muck fast food into your face is unhealthy! Drinking 10 cans of soda every day will put lots of spots on your teats! say wot??
The truth about coconut oil is obvious to anyone who has studied the health of those who live in traditional tropical cultures, where coconut has been a nutritious diet staple for thousands of years.
Back in the 1930's, a dentist named Dr. Weston Price traveled throughout the South Pacific, examining traditional diets and their effect on dental and overall health. He found that those eating diets high in coconut products were healthy and trim, despite the high fat concentration in their diet, and that heart disease was virtually non-existent.
Similarly, in 1981, researchers studied populations of two Polynesian atolls. Coconut was the chief source of caloric energy in both groups. The results, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition,2 demonstrated that both populations exhibited positive vascular health.
Not all coconut oil is equal as any company can produce low quality versions of it that may even hurt someones healthy by what they do to it.
Sounds a little like the French paradox. If I were of 'pure' Inuit decent, I could probably eat lots of whale blubber and be disease free. But I'm not. See my point here? Just because an indigenous people can be healthy on the local diet, doesn't mean we all will. Darwin may have had something to say about that...
Joseph1NJ Coconut oil or anything really, should be consumed at a normal daily range or rate - how many coconuts a day does a native living in Vanuatu eat per day - I'd say one. But there;'s margin of course as some of us like to use the it in cooking not juast to eat raw - I use it on my skin, I eat about 1 tablespoon a day, I brish my teeth with it and use it now and then as a hair conditioner....There's no French paradox - you just have to shed off your western consumerism mentality which is what we are all really suffering from.
Eating the whole coconut is night-&- day different from extracting the fat(oil), & adding it to the diet. All separated oil is bad. Even olive oil's 100% fat, no vitamins, minerals, or plant sterols. One oil might be "better" than another, but no oil at all is best by far. The correct proportion of fat is already in whole, plant foods
Jeff Novick wrote an interesting article about coconut oil. I tend to agree with him. The people in the South Pacific ate otherwise healthy diets high in fibre and they were physically active. Their fat intake was also mostly from the coconuts, rather than other foods. So, it was more that they were healthy despite their coconut oil intake, since it was their only risk factor for heart disease.
Joseph1NJ Actually, there's no French paradox - it's a myth. The channel Plant Postive sheds some light on this issue in his Gary Taubes series. Basically, the data on the French mortality rate in the study done by Ancel Keys is inaccurate, which is why it is excluded in his 6 country graph showing the correlation between degenerative heart disease and fat intake.
Obviously pure fat of any kind is not to be eaten in large quantities. However, I do think it is very difficult for most people to completely eliminate all kinds of oil from their diet. I mostly use olive oil for cooking anything savory and coconut oil for anything sweet but try to be mindful of the amounts. For me I dont feel the need or desire to never ever use any fat, its just not happening - and without being under the illusion that coconut oil is healthy per se, it is a much better option then butter in situations were that is otherwise what you would use - I find that coconut oil makes the best taste for cooking sweet things like pancakes.
And I am vegan.
Yep I have to agree! My cholesterol went up and I’m vegan 😒! Now to be fair I wasn’t taking CO raw everyday like some people do. I would use it in baking and such perhaps more than occasionally, replacing other oils or vegan butters. I rarely ate fried food (I refuse to even make fried foods, so you can’t even say it’s for those reasons). We talk about CO but I’m noticing too coconut products such as ice creams made with coconut milk has so much saturated fat! I’m trying to cut down any oil intake and on coconut products as well. I always ate much less oil than most people, I always measured and cut down more than half if a recipe suggested a lot of oil, now I try not to even add any oil at all if I can avoid it. We hardly eat out, I’m at a healthy weight, I’m fairly sort of still young, so It’s strange that it went up. But I’m pretty sure coconut oil and products are most of the reasons why. I would be foolish to pretend it’s not the reason. I’m still below the 200 mark but I didn’t like that my ldl kept climbing up and getting closer to that mark (my hdl did go up too, which is good I know). I’m hoping now my ldl went down since I’ve been cutting a lot of stuff out and exercising more. People are suckers for those marketing claims. So glad someone challenged this, i wish I had saw this in 2013. Beware folks!✌🏼
I've heard that societies that eat a lot of coconut have low heart disease?
Anyone know if that's right and if so how it relates to the above?
Yep I agree and i might go further....For all theories and tests, if people are healthy eating coconut I tend to go with that.
Thou Art That It's true but the main societies that do tend to be in south east asia and other regions where fresh food is more abundant and processed/junk food isn't. They also tend to be more active and generally a lot thinner than folks from the west so it's impossible to claim coconut oil as the one aspect that protects them
Dan Dobson In general I agree. I read an article [mercola] that suggested some specific peoples that ate loads of the stuff n were ok. But i dunno if it's right ?
Do grow coconut/palm trees near the sea? Is there fish in that neighborhood?
I can see the connection, Do you see it to?
Mother nature offeres antidotes in the nearness of each other.
Fish is an antidote for the 85% bad fats in coconuts.
Hmm interesting. It could be a non-causal relationship ie fish is healthy and so coconut eating peoples happen to be healthy too?
Do you have a reference for the connection?
I go through a stick of butter every 4 days, Have spoonful of coconut oil every morning with 2 free range eggs and 4 strips of bacon... I also know to separate 91 and 98 year olds who spread butter like jelly on their bread and each still drive and live on their own. Saturated fat is protective in the body, it doesnt oxidize and break down into toxic by products like the "healthy" polyunsaturated fats (omega 3). Saturated fat also speeds up the metabolism and that in turn changes hormone levels for the better and a ton of processes in the body. Dont be scared of saturated fat, you should be more sparing with polyunsaturated fat.
The studies show... polyunsaturated fat (breaks down) is bad and saturated fat (protective) is good if you actually take the time to read the studies and not the conclusion and summary. Any study that has ever said omega 3s are good for you has never given enough information to replicate that study, which is very interesting. The iidea that the omegas are essential is pure bull. You can live a healthy life on a zero fat diet but since polyunsaturated fat is hard to avoid you need saturated fat to counter it preferably as the majority fat consumed. and high quality vitamin e supplement helps counteract destructive polys..
M eb www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648 is a good place to start, but many more have come out recently.
Sean Weir Wow Sean Weir did you just say that "you can live healthy on a zero fat Diet"? You wouldn't live long at all if you had zero fat if you could avoid it. And don't give me the story "your body can make all the fat you need, cuz that's B.S. too
Wow that's deluded
what i found that doesn't make science work for any food is that none of us just eat coconut oil-we eat so much more and its all mixed up along with so many other factors,age,weight,habits etc- I don't think anyone eats exactly the same food daily and just adds coconut oil to know a real difference,in fact we have a deeper issue concerning food...the issue is that a person who already has an onset of a disease/outbreak that has not shown its face yet and this person who tries coconut oil lets pretend for 1 week before this disease/outbreak(acne/diarrhea canker sore etc) that was already in motion shows its face will blame the ill feelings from the outbreak on the coconut oil-we make those type of connections no different than the alcoholic that blames throwing up on the Salmon..we have a sickness with isolating food especially nutrients - nutrients can't work alone just like your heart can't work without your liver-its real tough and takes trial and error knowledge to figure out whether lets say Yogurt caused acne in a person or if the acne is detox symptoms pointing to signs that something else needs to change and the Yogurt is actually helpful... long term experimentation is the key..nobody really knows at all whats good long term...it wasn't long ago that coconuts,avocado were bad but now good..egg yolks were bad but now good because it has sulfur and sulfur is the new thing,add the oxygen fad and science will continue to guess because we are a very complicated machines..
It would be good if people had accurate information about fats and oils
to make decisions about what to eat. Why there is so much disagreement,
misinformation, bad information, and wrong information? That doesn't
help people to make good decisions. And it doesn't really matter if a
study is done where people seem to live longer as there could be many
factors to that such as environmental pollution, water pollution,
exercise, stress, etc, and not just diet. What they should tell us is
what does eating fats or oils DO to the physical body. That is what they
should study.
Greger's reporting of the studies in this video is incredibly dishonest. For example, if you read the full text of the study at 3:00, it showed that coconut oil increased HDL by a greater percentage than LDL, and the increase in HDL actually was statistically significant. The LDL:HDL ratio improved. Meanwhile, the other group, which was fed soybean oil, experienced a statistically significant decrease in HDL, a very large and statistically significant increase in both LDL and total cholesterol, an increase in waist circumference, and smaller reductions in CRP, BMI, and body mass. How exactly does this study support the idea that eating coconut oil is unhealthy?
You are spot on. He's misrepresenting the data. As a scientist myself I'm embarrassed that goofs like this fool people. Coconut oil is completely heart healthy. I eat it everyday...also use it as a moisturizer because it's so enriching for our skin. My lipid panels are excellent.
My Cholesterol has lowered drastically since switching to Coconut oil..Now I realize you're full of it lol
Did you not watch the video. If you switch from butter to coconut oil, you would theoretically see a decrease in cholesterol, but still higher from baseline💀
Anecdotal evidence is only evidence of anecdote. You either understand the scientific process, or you have your head confidently up your a.
See the chart at 4:23? Look at the percent energy from n-6 fatty acids in the coconut cake. Pure coconut oil is up to 94% saturated fatty acids, with a vanishingly small percentage of n-6 polyunsaturated fat. The only way the coconut cake could have contained 10% of calories as n-6 fatty acids (which is an enormous amount of a known pro-inflammatory substance) is if some other high-omega-6 fat were added. Sure enough, if you read the full text of the study, the fat added to the coconut cake actually consisted of a significant amount (more than 25% of the total) of soybean oil, which is the source of the high level of n-6 fatty acids in the coconut cake. The other cakes also contained a mixture of fats.
Now. Even with an enormous amount of pro-inflammatory n-6 added to the coconut group, notice that the inflammatory markers were lowest on the coconut oil diet, the diet highest in SaFA and lowest in PUFA, at every time interval. In fact, the coconut cake DECREASED this inflammatory marker compared to the fasting baseline. Why didn't Greger use this study as evidence that more SaFA and less PUFA attenuates the postprandial inflammatory response? Further, the full text informs us that the peroxide level in the cakes was highest in the cod liver oil cake, intermediate in the linseed oil cake, and lowest in the coconut oil cake. This makes sense because (a) polyunsaturated fats are generally more prone to oxidation under all conditions and (b) cod liver contains a huge amount of the highly unsaturated EPA and DHA, which have been shown to be exceptionally fragile, prone to oxidation, and liable to increase markers of inflammation and lipid peroxidation. Linoleic and alpha-linolenic acids, the predominant plant-based n-6 and n-3 PUFAs, are less highly unsaturated than EPA and DHA.
So what this particular segment of the data actually suggests, quite strongly, is that the magnitude of the postprandial inflammatory response increases as the fats in the meal become more highly UNSATURATED. The other inflammatory markers reported in the full text are less clear-cut, but generally appear to support the assertion that the highly unsaturated EPA was the most inflammatory of the fats tested.
I'm confused as to why Greger used this study to support the idea that eating coconut oil is unwise.
Wholy Crap! People on BOTH sides of this debate CANNOT be correct!
This is just like politics - you can never get to the truth.
Eeeewww cod liver oil cake?? 😨😵😵😵
Garlic,Grapes,Cherries,Strawberries,Green Tea, and the list goes on and on and on ...
I didn't think it was possible to miss a computer voice but this guy has achieved the impossible with his condescending voice.
Eating it for decades, still here, still healthy.
Check your cholesterol, then show the numbers
135 last time I checked in November.
Green Deane according to the numbers in Dr Greggers book, a healthy cholesterol is much much lower. 105 is the target I believe.
Green Deane the edical evidence shows, more saturated fat=more cholesterol transported to the arteries=higher risk of heart disease. So, it doesnt matter what you think or if your still alive now despite eating coconut oil.
+Green Deane There are 100 year old smokers that can say the same thing, no lung cancer, no nothing.
The observational studies that have assessed LDL as a risk factor when compared to other candidates have very frequently shown it to be a much weaker risk factor for coronary heart disease than the ratio of total-C to HDL-C, and more so apo B or LDL-P (i.e., LDL particle number). So I strongly disagree with the statement made early in the video that "LDL (and by this I assume LDL-C is implied)... is the number one risk factor ... for heart disease"; that was the state of the field 3 decades ago. Indeed, LDL-C can go up and LDL-P and apo B can go down. Furthermore, asking what happens when one simply adds a food to the diet is one thing; another is asking what happens if one replaces one source of calories with another. So what happens when one replaces carbohydrate calories with coconut oil?
***** Here's a meta-analysis:
Circ Cardiovasc Qual Outcomes. 2011 May;4(3):337-45. doi: 10.1161/CIRCOUTCOMES.110.959247. Epub 2011 Apr 12.
A meta-analysis of low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, non-high-density lipoprotein cholesterol, and apolipoprotein B as markers of cardiovascular risk
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What that study reported was a lack of statistically significant improvement (as assessed by the c-statistic) of risk prediction by adding lipoprotein measures (i.e., apo B, apoA/apoB, total LDL particle number = LDL-P, or HDL-P/LDL-P) to the AHA 2013 risk calculator. But that risk calculator has HDL-C and Total-C as the lipid inputs; LDL-C isn't an input. So this finding that your provided the reference for does not show that the lipoprotein measures are only as good as LDL-C (rather, it does show that they were not detectably better than the AHA 2013 risk score, which does not use LDL-C).
More to the point, when the risk prediction afforded by LDL-C and apoB (or apoA/apoB, or LDL-P) has been compared directly, the lipoprotein measures have almost always (perhaps even always, but I cannot guarantee that i have read every paper on the subject; I cited one in an earlier message) been superior. So, my assessment of the statement in this (and other videos by the same author) that LDL-C is the number one (lipid-related) risk factor for heart disease remains that it is unambiguously incorrect given the current state of the data.
+Tom Goff [There is still also, it appears, a fairly widespread focus by treating physicians on ldl c scores.]
Of course there is. Most practicing doctors simply follow the guidelines of their professional associations which are influenced by big pharma. Treating physicians appeal to authority just like you. LOL.
And why the emphasis on LDL-C? Because that's all that statin drugs treat. But the statin drug makers state right on the label that lowering LDL has not been proven to have an effect on CHD or CVD. All statin drugs do is lower LDL-C while making you very sick by interfering with the Mevalonate pathway.
So doctors are prescribing statin drugs for millions of people to treat a "risk factor" that has little bearing on heart disease. What's really sad is that two recent Harvard studies (one statistical back-testing and one using a model) support giving statin drugs to more people with "slightly elevated" LDL-C.
And if big pharma manages to convince the NCEP (and others) to change it's guidelines based on these two dubious studies, more people will needlessly suffer the severe side effects of statin drugs while putting a few extra billion dollars in the coffers of the big drug companies.
***** [Stating that referring to evidence-based guidelines is an "appeal to authority"...]
Too bad that's not what I said. LMAO. You really should learn to read better.
What's sad is that the US not only put the UK on the wrong path, it also put most of the western world on the same wrong path.
For all the material you seem to cite, it's really remarkable how blind you are to the influence of players with vested interests in certain "guidelines".
The recent Harvard studies are a prime example of how industry influences scientific "research".
Not to mention the stuff you read but fail to understand the strings being pulled. Why pray-tell should LDL-C be the primary target of treatment??? LOL.
ATPIII also recommends that total c and hdl be used to calculate risk but notes that ldl c should be the primary target of treatment.
***** [Treating physicians appeal to authority just like you. LOL]
Oh good. You quoted me instead of paraphrasing.
[Your meaning is crystal clear.]
Apparently not to you. But let me spell it out for you. The treating physicians are appealing to their authority figures which are their respective associations.
[And instead of considering the evidence set out in those gudelines...]
Funny thing is that YOU cannot identify the evidence.
"ATPIII also recommends that total c and hdl be used to calculate risk but notes that ldl c should be the primary target of treatment. "
So where is the evidence that LDL-C should be the primary target of treatment? Why do statin drug makers state that lowering LDL-C has not been shown to reduce the incidence of CHD or CVD? Why treat a risk factor that doesn't correlate with CHD?
When man decided that the food God made for man was no good but what man made in a lab was the only really healthy way to eat I quit listening to people like AHA
Coconut oil should be used in moderation like in Jim Morrison brownies!!
I suspect vegan/vegetarian propaganda. What kind of coconut oil in the studies and what were the carbs and protein and fat ratios in these studies?
"suspecting" it allows you to continue with what you are doing and pretend there's no problem...
Come on Vegan propaganda about a food eaten by most vegans.......
If you had bothered to look at it, you would know it says it's not that good for you.
you didn't need to suspect anything if you had the initiative to look up the studies for yourself?
try to check the study before suspecting. i have been in your shoes for long time, until i investigate studies deeper
actually LDL is weak predictor of cardiovascular diseases. correlation goes as high as r=0.23 sometimes a little more, but 0.23 is typical value. values of r between 0-0.25 are weak corelations. what it means is that if you have r=0.3 then only 9% of cases of sclerosis can be explained by cholesterol level and 91% by other factors. We know that HDL level is stronger predictor. We now know that vitamin K2 intake is strongest predictor of these diseases, because there are K-dependent proteins which decalcify arteries and allow proper phagocytosis of remnants of sclerotic plaque. LDL just delivers fats to the place of inflammation for repair purposes. But the whole complex cycle does not complete when you are K2 deficient. There are studies both in animals and humans which show atherosclerosis can be reversed by adequate supply of K2 mk7.
get some up to date information. You're misguided. Good intentions but wrong information.
About 2 years ago, I fell for the coconut oil scam, I gained weight. About 10 lbs!! I’d put some in my tea everyday about 2 weeks. 😡
Human always want the easy way out,
there's no such thing as a magic pill
coconut oil is definetly not one.
Balance diet and adjustments to your genetic
are the key.
It works fire for me but then again I'm a Vegetarian
uh, he didnt answer the question in the title.
thank you for paying attention.
so much misinformation it's scary...
XB its hard to know what to believe
Sure is.. for me a video like this is the first sign to keep researching.
It was (sort of) concluded in the video couple of times that coconut oil does raise bad cholesterol (LDL) levels but it's not that inflammatory as animal-based saturated fat. :}
Sort of...? that's my issue. he posted the question
and sort of answered the question he posted, hmmm.
there is something wrong with that..
I use it only for frying...which I don´t do that often.
I'm surprised and disappointed that you, Dr. Greger, use studies that shouldn't be mentioned to prove a point, and in this case, that coconut oil is "detrimental" to our health. While it may be so, we still don't know, the "Effect of the fat composition of a single high-fat meal on inflammatory markers in healthy young women" (2011) study had a sample of 14 women, which you neglected to mention. Come on! One cannot state any conclusion with such a small sample. This study should not have been mentioned. And the same goes for "The Impact of Virgin Coconut Oil and High-Oleic Safflower Oil on Body Composition, Lipids, and Inflammatory Markers in Postmenopausal Women" (2017) study, which only had a sample of 12 women, which again you neglected to mention. I basically don't trust your judgement or videos any longer. These so-called studies are pilot studies at best. Where are the real studies? Medicine (and nutrition) that should be using the most scientifically rigorous measurement, evaluation and methodology tend to use bogus research practices and so-called doctors. This is shameful, disgusting and criminal.
On my high fat low carb diet diet, which I use coconut oil as a main source for saturated fat, my cholesterol numbers were better than optimal compared to NHA website. My numbers were never that good when on medication.
As with anything, too much of a good thing is too much of a good thing.
who the hell spoons down a tub of coconut oil?? Never even seen a Greek down a whole bottle of olive oil yet? Or a Pom smash down a pound of butter??
So talking about vegetable oils, especially Coconut Oil (ORGANIC, UNREFINED),
I have had suffered strokes during 2014/5, n was still trying to find new job w/o knowing
what to do other than keeping taking Aspirin past 30 years.
I remembered then I stopped taking Atenolol n Simvastatin ; which was prescribed by
my previous MD many years ago, since over 5 YRS ago.
So forced myself to go to see another MD to get Atenolol n Smvastatin to control
my high blood pressure n cholesterol .
Then still I have had trouble with my brain functions to realize a couple yrs later
having some problems to handle normal procedures of my new job during
2016/7.
Since got kicked out fm my latest job after just one year in 2017,
I just wanted to work on my resume to find anther job.
Having nothing but the time in hands, started to watch CZcams VIDs
to find some VIDs about earlier symptoms of Alzheimer which symptoms
I have had since then.
And have been eating COCONUT OIL (Organic, Undefined, Cold pressed,)
after watching, thank GOD, Dr. Mary Newport VIDs on CZcams.
I only happened to notice these Dr. Mary Newport's VID just recently
while I have had earlier symptoms of Alzhimer's having a lot of trouble
while driving; especially with severe dry-eyes condition as well.
Oh, anyway There is a VID on CZcams concerning how to use
Coconut Oil directly to EYES; applying to edges of eyes with Q-TIPS
which seems to be brilliant idea. It really helps big-time for Dry-eyes condition.
I have applied Coconut Oil using Q-tip to eyes in AM, & never needed
any of eye-drop anymore past 2 monthes now.
I also has been applying CASTOR OIL to eyes when goning sleep
since about 3 monthes ago which has help with my Dry-eyes condition
especially after having Laser-surgery for my right-eye due to Retina-hole
with severe dry-eye condition for many years w/o realizing it.
But also, just like the testimony of Dr. Mary Newport's husbund,
I have felt the exact same feeling that "The light switch was turned on in my brain
almost immediately after started having a couple of spoonful of Organic Coconut Oil.
GOD bless Dr. Mary Newport & everyone involved doing the good works
I pray in the name of our LORD JESUS CHRIST -Amen
PS: Just in case anybody wondering, I'm 65 by coming JAN/2018.
PPS: Organic Coconut Oil-Unrefined (Tropical Life brand) was delivered by Walmart On-line when I ordered for the first time. It did have good smell of Coconut Oil.
But when bought Organic Coconut oil (UNDEFINED) off the shelves of Walmart store a couple of weeks ago because I just noticed they have them in the store;
but it was different brand (Organic GREAT VALUE) & it does not smell any Coconut at all fyr
For cholesterol Check Dave feldman. He is very in front. So much confusion around the topic. Ldl is may be not bad cholesterol at all.
this guy doesn't know at all what he is talking about. it is not fats that increase inflammation it is the carbs. the cholesterol produced naturally in our body repair the damage to the arteries due to the damage caused by inflammation. cholesterol isn't bad hence why our body makes it lol further more his studies are skewed and cherry picked like all vegans do to try and push their save the animal agenda. the 1970 Eskimo study debunks this guy's findings as before the Eskimos were westernized they had the lowest cardiovascular risk out of anyone in the world and they ate mainly all meat and fat diet. hate when a doctor is a buy out for his failed cause. nothing wrong with eating meat.
Tom Goff actually the scientists have shown it's sugar and sugary foods that increase inflammation in the body and that coupled with the bad fats aka deep fried foods does clog arteries. go research the Eskimo study where the inuit diet consisted mainly of fat and protein. before they were westernized along with tobacco and alcohol they had one of the if not the lowest cardiovascular problems in the world. sugar is the problem not fats. this doctor if you want to call him that is completely biased to the vegan lifestyle.
so i want to confirm something from you. you are a vegan right. because i think the link you sent you are mis-reading it. "Conclusion
High fat meal may provoke inflammatory response in a postprandial state however the effect of type of dietary fats remained uncertain. Dietary fats, in particular n-3 PUFA may play a pivotal role in improving inflammatory status in severely obese individuals, however the impact may be marginal compared with weight loss. No conclusive evidence on the effect of type of dietary fatty acids on varying cytokines. A complete understanding on the role of dietary fatty acids on low grade inflammation merits further investigation. Information is needed based on rigorously well designed clinical studies. " the reason i ask if you are vegan or not is just to understand if you understand the deficiency in that way of life. you keep stating "crank sites" yet you know very little from where i pull my information down from. so i would suggest stop assuming since you know what that gets you. did you read the article you linked or did you just google search fat and inflammation and copied the link. here go read and learn: www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/fat-health_b_4343798.html
@@dathonscholtz I'm not sure if you know this, but coconut oil is vegan. He's not trying to push any agenda with this video, simply to inform. Sugars cause fat to be stored which raises cholesterol which clogs arteries and although fat isn't the main cause of obesity it also raises cholesterol.
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@@dathonscholtz I'm not vegan, my car has leather, I have a leather belt. I don't kill animals for fun, but I don't put them in my mouth either. The fact that I own leather means I'm not vegan. I don't eat animals because I'm not trying to get cancer or heart disease. The "eskimo study" was complete garbage, innuit populations have the lowest life expectancy in Canada. This is actually covered in a different video czcams.com/video/9LvGiiZyn-M/video.html
So as long as my cholesterol is fine, and I am not overweight, I can eat coconut oil? I like to fry my veggie burger in a bit of it.
yeah, knock yourself out, you'll regret it when you turn 50, if you make it that long.
1too3fore I'm 66, ride my bike 100 miles a week, run, yoga, but of course coconut must be bad because it tastes good. I should have known...
All oils are bad, been proven to reduce blood flow by 30% for up to 8 hrs after just 1 TBS of consumption. Congrats on your health. It smells better than it tastes, that's what you're experiencing.
Doriesep6622 I don't think this video is absolutely conclusive on the subject, scientific nutrition rarely is. I think the point is, if you use it sparingly, and it has no negative effects on your health, then continue. But, if like many of these so called "health experts" suggest, you should start using it as a health aid, not so fast. As for me, I don't use it, and see no reason to start.
Joseph1NJ Hmmm...he is not making a distinction between coconut oil which is hydrogenated as virgin coconut, which is not.
Ummmmm not sure total cholesterol is really a thing to worry about ....more the type and size of that ldl particle size appears to be the thing to worry about.....and ldl particle size is a result of the carbohydrate intake....
+Nathanxiangdarby I agree. The problem is that physicians don't usually check the lipoprotein particle count - just prescribe a toxic expensive drug which in the long run does damage to the heart.
Wrong! "Early studies showed that coconut oil supplementation had adverse effects on lipid profiles. However, these studies used hydrogenated coconut oil. The process of hydrogenation of fats, makes them more stable at elevated temperatures but it dramatically increases the levels of trans-fatty acids (trans fats) which are known to have an adverse effect on lipid profiles. Clinical studies using non-hydrogenated coconut oil supplements provide evidence for modest benefits of coconut oil consumption on lipid profiles. Animal studies have shown that coconut oil supplementation lowered total cholesterol, lipoproteins and phospholipids. It is possible these benefits are a consequence of the biochemical properties of MCTs. As I previously mentioned, MCTs are rapidly metabolized in the liver into energy and does not participate in the biosynthesis and/or transport of cholesterol.
In addition, another study showed that coconut based diets lowered the postprandrial tissue plasminogen and lipoprotein (a), a blood marker associated with the risk of heart attack. Lipoprotein (a) was lower in women that consumed the diet high in coconut oil. Similarly, another study investigated the effects of coconut oil individuals with moderately elevated levels of cholesterol. The study demonstrated that coconut oil consumption lowered the amount of total and LDL-c." -Dr Rhonda Patrick
This is all assuming that the cholesterol theory is true. It is good for selling pharmaceutical drugs.
This video is insane. Filipino woman also eat a lot of swine. Thats why their colesterol is through the roof.
Eating 4-5 tbsp of coconut oil a day, my cholesterol is the lowest it’s ever been and my thinking is totally clear. I feel amazing. My weight is 140, and I’m healthy as can be. If it’s a placebo, it’s working.
the coconuts we'rent grass fed
I put that in my hair lol.