Cycling BANNED This... Should Running?
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Join Jess as she demonstrates the importance of tracking blood sugar levels and how to use it to your advantage. The device is banned in professional cycling races because it could give an unfair advantage; should running follow suit and keep running pure and simple?
↓↓ Have you ever hit the wall on a race? Wish you knew about it in advance? ↓↓
What’s in this video?
00:00:00 - The advantage of tracking glucose levels during training and refuelling
00:00:58 - Monitoring Glucose Levels for Optimal Nutrition and Running
02:00:00 - Analyzing Glucose Levels during a Run
00:02:55 - The Science Behind Fueling for a Run
00:03:55 - Maintaining Stable Glucose Levels
00:04:45 - Effective Carbohydrate Loading
00:05:44 - Practical Tips for Fueling in Races
00:06:40 - Nutrition Tips for Race Day
00:07:34 - Monitoring Glucose Levels and Exercise
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Have you ever hit the wall on a race? Wish you knew about it in advance?
What was the adhesive band you placed around the monitor? Did that come with it?
@@GibStud Think it was probably to reduce the chance you'll knock the monitor on something and rip it out of your arm accidentally!
Only after fasting. But I have 'bonked' after long-cycles.
My brother uses this for his Type-1 Diabetes (non-chubby diabetes - as he calls it, he's as skinny as rake).
I've only hit the wall once, when I ran a marathon. I had run a marathon distance before without any issues, and I normally do my weekly long run of 21.1k to 25k or so without any gels or chews, and sometimes completely fasted. I thought that I'd be fine. But I didn't take into account that I'd be running not just longer, but also much faster, and through the edges of a post-tropical storm with battering walls of wind.
After having chews at 0, 5, 10, 15, and 20 km in the marathon, I was feeling fine, and my last chews sat in my pocket. I started to feel a bit drained at about 30k, but I decided that with only 12k to go that there wasn't much point, and I was more worried about digestive distress than of the wall. Then at 35k I hit a 26 metre hill, and the wall hit me. In the span of about a minute I went from feeling 80% of the way to OK to "now I know what death feels like" and my capacity for rational thoughts like "maybe use that last chew and see what happens" left me.
I'd been averaging around a 4:47 pace, but kilometre 35 was a 5:43, and the fastest I got for the rest of the race was 5:07 in kilometre 38. I finished at a 4:56 average pace, 3:27:56 time. But if I'd fuelled better and smarter, I think that under 3:25 would have been likely, possibly better.
@@patricoda thanks. I get that actually. I am familiar with the appliance as I am in healthcare. I have just never seen a cover like that for the monitor.
You should do a video with a diabetic runner so you can see how vital these CGMs are for us.
I'm a type II diabetic and a regular runner / coach. It's important to note we usually measure our blood sugars 2 hours after feeding as it can take this long for food to be turned into blood sugar. I went hypo after the Great South 10 miler one year without any nutrition which was pretty serious until someone gaveme some M&M's and later got a free sample device for two weeks to see how I could prevent this going forward.
These devices are amazing pieces of tech, and in my experience once applied it stays in place whatever you do, swimming, showering etc as long as you position it correctly (think about the position you sleep in) but they are not absolutely accurate, just giving an indication. Don't forget, you won't see an immediate change as it takes time for anything you eat to get in your bloodstream, particularly if it's something like a cereal bar or banana.
As a diabetic, I mainly used it to make sure I was not "spiking" after meals (a takeaway Chinese was horrendous!) and that I was keeping my levels in balance. On long runs, I discovered that what worked for me was to take honey or liquid dextrose/glucose to get the sugars in my bloodstream ASAP. I do this every 45 mins to an hour, just to keep things in order.
ah ok thanks interesting! Thank you for sharing your insight!
Sorry to hear that. Of all the type 2 diabetes I have known I have never came across a regular active person. What is your BMI and exercise regime?
@@Kelberi For some people, it can be genetic shit lottery. I have a friend who was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes around age 18-19, BMI around 22-23, very much an average Jane, but there are lots of people with diabetes in her family.
@@scemat did you mean type 1?
I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes also, but I kept on at my Dr as I was sure that was wrong. I’m very active and eat pretty well. Eventually I got an appointment with a specialist and I got diagnosed with Late Onset Type 1 diabetes, not better as it can’t be reversed like type 2 can. But I knew when I crash, sugar makes it worse, I get a high then a massive low. So for me I need, fats & protein to stabilise my blood sugar.
I’m using the Zoe App & the Libre and it’s amazing. I get to see what I can and can’t eat, as mentioned it also depends on when you eat it, carbs last after fats & protein and my spike will be minimal.
I have London Marathon this year and it’s my first marathon. I’m struggling on fuelling as gels won’t work for me. I have done Ultra’s and eaten solid food which worked, but for a marathon at a faster pace (looking to do 2:40 at 44 years old) wouldn’t work. Any ideas?
I wear exactly the sensor Jess is wearing. I’m a Type 1 Diabetic, and this is why I have the sensor. My body doesn’t function in the same way that a non-diabetic’s body does. I would essentially not be able to run long in a safe way without the sensors - the biggest impact I’ve seen in my life since moving across to these sensors (instead of finger prick blood testing) is in my exercise (running and other forms of exercise). Perhaps not the case for every Type 1 Diabetic, but I know I’m not alone. I had a hypoglycaemic episode on a really short run just this week, which my sensor flagged up before I was able to feel it.
I’d find it incredibly disheartening to see the sensor banned. It’s not something I like to admit, but there are things I struggle with or just can’t do because of my condition. Running is something that’s challenging, but possible for me. I’ve got races booked through 2024, and to be the person that turns up with the banned product, even for mass participation where we’d be told it doesn’t matter, would make me feel like what I was doing wasn’t valid in the same way.
Yeah banning it for type 1s is crazy and dangerous IMO.
As an Australian it's weird seeing them used his way as until recently they were completely unaffordable for people who were hypo-unaware and might've died without it. We even had charities set up to sponsor their use in children who were at risk of Dead-In-Bed Syndrome.
They're much more affordable now thanks to government intervention but I can't understand how they've become so popular for non-diabetes use that they've been banned outright.
Using it to gain an advantage is different to using it to prevent illness/death - safety should be the top priority in any activity
Another T1D here. As interesting as this video is - well done, Jess - it really does oversimplify the body's response to exercise. There is a complete difference between what happens with aerobic exercise and anaerobic. One pulls blood sugars down, the other drives them up (and that's a gross oversimplification too). All of that happens without us having any conscious awareness of our body's mechanisms. CGM doesn't fix that, nor does it tell us why we're experiencing rises or falls. As the video points out, food is only one factor - mood, stresses, sleep (or lack thereof), illness (even before we know we're ill!), and exercise are all factors affecting our blood glucose levels. Another factor no one seems to mention is weather. A change of just a few degrees plays havoc with my BGL. The average athlete would be wasting their time trying to monitor and adjust for all of those factors.
As others have pointed out, life for someone with Type 1 diabetes is totally different. I rely on my insulin pump and CGM to keep me alive, not just to fine tune my running performance. A blanket ban on CGM would be discrimination against all athletes with T1D.
In the meantime - as fun as this video is - running is just common sense. If you're running long, add fuel. End of.
I would hope that T1Ds could get an exception with a Drs note.
This is the most informative video I've seen about CGMs for non-diabetics
At about £45 per device, or £90 a month, I agree that this sort of tracking would be more for elite-level athletes.
Not so much that it could prove an advantage between the have and have nots at elite level though. I don't see any reason to ban just yet.
To use regularly and/or for races, I agree this seems like elite level gear.
But I think people could use it once to figure out what proper fueling method and timing works best for them. That way they can apply that method to regular training and get most of the benefits even without the real time tracking this does. So I can see the value in it for the non-elite but serious runners as well.
For me, a casual, I admit this is much. I'm probably going to have to master fueling at the planned time(which I usually miss), before I could even consider something like this.
As a type 1 diabetic and runner I've been using this tech for years just to keep safe and enable me to run. Though many of the rules around Carb loading etc go out the window for me as that would mean a lot of excess insulin floating round the system on the start line. Running makes my body extra sensitive to insulin so it's an immediate crash for me.
When your body isn't doing this stuff automatically for you then you realise just how finely balanced a whole bunch of different systems in you are.
This was one of the most useful videos I've seen from you guys, thank you! It's not glucose related but I'd love to see a video about electrolytes/salts planning when running a marathon, that was more of where my wall was 😅
Yes lots of good information in this video. Thanks running channel.
Love the stat and science based running content. Keep up the good work
Great video, Jess. Love these science-focused videos, super interesting!
This was really interesting. When I started running 5 yrs ago I did not understand fuelling. I did my first half marathon unfuelled and nearly passed out at the end. I first thought it was low blood pressure but i now think it was a blood glucose crash. I now carb load before halfs, take gels, and i feel fine. As I'm almost 70 this is a serious issue. I've never used a CGM but I suspect it would give me useful information and help me to understand blood glucose levels and fuelling better. Thanks for making this video.
Lets hope diabetics arent missing out because of depleted stocks due to healthy people buying them.
Similar thing has happened with some diabetic medications as the weightloss industry bought up stock to make a fast quid.
As a Type 1 Diabetic I wish people who really are healthy wouldn’t buy these products just for reasons of interest as there are many type 1 diabetics like me that depend on them
Exactly. I have a son that is a type 1 diabetic. The last few years have been so much easier for him with the sensors. I've seen them pop up all over the place on people using them for flashy diets.
@@Mary-ph3jfexactly, I’m a T1D and I was rather annoyed when I saw something that is a life changer for managing diabetes being used recreationally (I can’t think what else to call it.). I can only hope that this non medical use means that costs fall for the NHS and it can be used more widely in those who *actually need* it.
As an aside, I am surprised that there is so much change in glucose levels in a non-diabetic.
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@@graham1735bizarre comment. It’s not like it impacts on your son…has the recreational use of these products impacted your son in anyway? I thought not so why should it bother you. In fact the more people that use the product means the tech companies get more feed back resulting in better products. What next? Ban cosmetic surgery?
This is SO COOL! I did ZOE testing this winter and learned a great deal by wearing the CGM. One minor correction on the role of insulin, it is important for letting glucose into cells when we are resting, but when we are exercising glucose transport into muscle cells does not require insulin. So, exercise is able to trigger a rise in blood sugar without food and also the uptake of sugar into muscles without insulin - truly magical! Keep up the amazing work!
I did a 50k this past weekend and got a little bonky about 2/3rds in. A 90g Precision gel turned things around and my performance was transformed for the final miles. We've got to fuel people!
Amazing!! And yes we really do need to fuel!
As a type 1 diabetic for over 20 years I have found the thing that makes the biggest difference to my sugars is exercise. Not so much during exercise but afterwards. Rightly or wrongly I’ve (perhaps simplistically) always thought of it as the exercise allowing the body to use insulin more efficiently. Because if I had a meal after exercise and injected the same amount of insulin as I would have done without the exercise invariably I would end up “low”. Yes there are many factors of course (what you eat being the obvious) but, for me, exercise always requires me to adjust my insulin downwards.
@@julianfoster3443 I believe that I have a lot that I can learn from people who have learned how to manage life with type 1 diabetes. Thanks for sharing :)
This is some great info. Appreciated.
I often go to races alone and so I fuel in the following way for half and full marathons... Gel - Half an hour before starting, water 250ml. Then a gel every 45 minutes, cramp tablet every hour. Banana 1hrs30. At water stops a sip of the magic bullet Coca Cola (not a full cup) and 150mls of water. Then from about 20kms - a granola bar, energy bar or apple....slow release energy....I set alarms on my watch to keep the timing and this helped me run my first 56km race in 5hrs 45mins ... obviously there was the training but fueling to a schedule that works for you, like you said, really works.... Coffee after a run is also a staple. Really appreciate the vid. Thanks
I'm type 2, and have been using the Libre for a few years now. The reading from the interstitial fluid is about 15 minutes behind what your actual glucose level is if you did a finger prick with blood reading. The most helpful reading I get from the sensor is the trending reading. When out for a long run, if I start trending down, I know it's time to take in some fuel. Also to note, if the sensor gets too cold or too hot, it will stop sending data. I've had this happen many times on outdoor runs.
This was great! I feel better informed. My daughter use a similar device for medical reasons. Her doctor uses his to improve his triathlon training.
This is amazing info thank u, much needed this week for my 46 mile run Sat
Thanks Jess. I was talking about this with a friend yesterday and how I was tempted to do zoe to see how my glucose works. Interested to hear that there is a "best" order to eating various things. Definitely interested in finding out more. So for example what happens over longer distances without fuelling / more natural products vs gel, fruit etc
I don't understand why this would be banned. It just gives you information, like my watch tells me my pace and HR. It's not something that directly boosts your performance like EPO and steroids. You still have to put in the training mileage like everybody else.
I'm just starting to get more detailed in the way I track carb loading prior to a long+hard workout. I'm also tinkering with a DIY gel recipe to find the right consistency. I'd be VERY interested in using this device to compare how my body reacts to the different brands out there during a hard workout vs the reaction from my DIY solution
My partner is T1 Diabetic and wears a CGM consistently - to be able to track his blood sugars. It would be such a shame if he couldn’t take part in running events due to this advancement in tech that he uses as a medical device. Are there talks of it being banned in elite races only, or also mass participation? What will elite runners do, if they’re also diabetic? Would be keen to know how the cycling industry tackles this, if they’ve banned CGM’s for cyclists! X
I don’t know about that regarding other countries but I‘m from Germany and I also have one, I particpated in some races (not elite) and no one told me I couldn‘t wear it. I mean I wouldn‘t be able to participate without it. As far as I know elite athletes are allowed to wear them, I think it would be too dangerous if they didn‘t
Don't forget, in cycling they ban a lot of stuff. Like socks that are too long.
I'm surprised they've been banned as (if my understanding is correct) all it does is provide information, it isn't directly giving you any unfair advantage - but each to their own. My father is borderline diabetic (not that he'd be doing any running) so I'll definitely take a look into it. From a mental health perspective I could see it being beneficial and actually quite reassuring explaining unexpected moods. Would be expensive to do in the long term, but the short term benefits could really make a difference.
Love it thanks Jess 😍
Interesting Video this will help me think more about fueling in my Next Marathon when pushing my son in a wheelchair !!
What abn amazing thing to do! Which marathon are you running?
I agree with you that it helps to understand the importance of fuelling. I’m not super good with that. So I’ll pay more attention to that.
Good luck to both of you on your marathon!!! 👍😀
Manchester Marathon in April @@runningchannel
Great, really informative! Always nice to get a science-based coffee recommendation too! 😁☕
My simple rule is to take a gel every 45 minutes at steady pace and every 30 minutes if i go hard... Do not wait to bonk to take on fuel cause it's already too late......
lol vbest joke of the year
Very cool and would be interesting being able to really dial in what it feels like right as you should optimally fueling since im sure nearly everyone waits until its a bit too late 😅
Alfredo's Pasta works best right before park run.
Just in time for my lunch break ❤😂
That was really interesting 👍
I would love to see more on how people who have to use this kind of technology do this. I have type 1 diabetes and ran my first marathon last year, which wouldn't have been possible without a CGM.
I'd also like to add that I wear this as a medical device that I get on prescription, and it's actually super disheartening how apps like Supersapiens aren't available to me -- as a runner who would gain so much from this -- because they're incompatible with the sensor I have, even though it's the exact same sensor. I'd have to wear two sensors that do the exact same thing but talk to different apps, which obviously isn't (financially) feasible.
I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes also, but I kept on at my Dr as I was sure that was wrong. I’m very active and eat pretty well. Eventually I got an appointment with a specialist and I got diagnosed with Late Onset Type 1 diabetes, not better as it can’t be reversed like type 2 can. But I knew when I crash, sugar makes it worse, I get a high then a massive low. So for me I need, fats & protein to stabilise my blood sugar.
I’m using the Zoe App & the Libre and it’s amazing. I get to see what I can and can’t eat, as mentioned it also depends on when you eat it, carbs last after fats & protein and my spike will be minimal.
I have London Marathon this year and it’s my first marathon. I’m struggling on fuelling as gels won’t work for me. I have done Ultra’s and eaten solid food which worked, but for a marathon at a faster pace (looking to do 2:40 at 44 years old) wouldn’t work. Any ideas?
I would be interested if you take fuel x drink is better then gels and if I have to use one or the other ?
Thanks you I love the running channel 😊
As a type 1 diabetic whio has to regulate their own glcose levels 24/7, PLEASE trust me when I tell you that your body's metabolism and glucose regulation system is far more sophisticated than a CGM can tell you and that trying to optimize it your glucose levels for your running performance is wasted time and energy. Not any hate to the video, it's an interesting topic for sure! As someone who has to take on the incredibly frustrating and energy-intensive job of being their own pancreas, I simply detest the trend of healthy people worrying about their blood glucose levels while their body is totally capable of regulating it.
I couldn't agree with this more (I also have T1DM). Not to mention there is plentiful science out there that now refers to blood glucose "excursions" rather than blood sugar 'spikes', There is a movement away from pathologising (or even "gamifying") these rises and dips in blood gluocose levels for those who are not diabetic - and videos like these grossly oversimplify and misrepresent what the leading research suggests from those who frankly know better. I love The Running Channel but this video misses the mark.
Keep it is something that is possible to be use by most pros and blood sugar Monitoring can be helpful to keep diet and training balanced.
Great video, Jess and team. Reminded me that should stay clear of energy bars when not running to keep glucose stable. "I had a run earlier that day" isn't a valid excuse
What length do your runs tend to be?
Weekday runs are capped to 1hour, and I aim for a meal 3-4hours before.
I'm a slower ultra runner, and I've learned that food is mood. Eat early, eat often. Heavy legs or negative thoughts? Grab a snack! It's obviously different between a 5k and a 50k+, and diabetics need to do/ use whatever is best for them, (high five to my diabetic athletes out there, getting it done!) But for me, the only counting I do is time and minimums, to be sure lack of appetite doesn't put me in a whole I have to dig myself out of. Also... any excuse to eat yummy food is great by me! No monitor is going to tell me I don't need another gourmet donut! 😂😂
You mean there are fast ultra runners!!!😜
I have tried gels that contain various sugars (glucose/fructose/dextrose/maltodextrin). I find they are good for high intensity runs, but for endurance runs I stick with 33fuel chia seed based gel. It’s much more slow release and avoids sharp sugar spikes. I combine this with Tailwind endurance water mix that I can water down to the right level without it being sickly sweet.
I ran my second ever 21km race yesterday... Carbo loaded and water hydrated all off last week. Bowl of oats and a cup of black coffee for breakfast. Had 1 x 32gi gel around 1 hour in which was about the 13km mark. Carried a 500ml bottle of hydration mix and had water at a few water points. My time was 1 hour 37 min. Which was a huge PB from my previous time for the same distance
Congratulations on the AMAZING pb! 💪🎉
@@runningchannel now to figure out fuelling for my first ever marathon on the 10th of Feb... Please advise of u have any tips and tricks for the marathon based on my previous comment
As a type 1 diabetic for the last 35 years, of which around 10 with this technology I know it all to well.
The spike you saw even without any carb intake is when your (mainly) liver release the stores. This is not advisable to use by purpose, it is an all or nothing emergency switch the body use and you will feel lethargic for quite a while after. (As a diabetic it is hell, but it works the same foe non diabetics).
The hardest part is finding fueling that works for you, for every type of run in all weather conditions with every different energy level (mood). It is hard both with a sensor and without, but the sensor will show you some data so you can remove inaccurate "gut feelings".
Jess for the win!
Had a few low low points in various races where a blast of sugar cured me. Terrible place to go but happily I seem to have it figured out. .....maybe 😅
It is such an important lesson! 😅
I had a one month trial last year as I'm borderline Type II Diabetic and wanted to understand my blood sugars better. The trial taught me a lot about how my glucose levels vary with exercise and helped me work out optimum timings for pre run meals and when to take gels on long runs. After the trial finished, I had enough information to carry on without a sensor and one year later I haven't felt the need for another trial. Yes, glucose monitors can be a great training aid, but I don't believe non-elite runners like me would gain a significant advantage by actually wearing one during a race.
Has anyone tried the SIS Beta Fuel with Nootropics gels? Ive only had one so want to know what others think of them!
I'd like to see you do something solid like Honey Stinger Waffles and liquid nutrition like Tailwind. I personally hate gels, so I got more solid or liquid based for my nutrition.
I have Type 1 Diabetes, I take insulin. I have been using the Freestyle Libra sensors for quite some time now. An early adopter, self funded initially. I am a regular runner, and have run my age categories in some events. I used to mainly cycle though. I cannot understand why these sensors would be banned tbh. What is the rational reason?
I would be very interested in doing something about home made gel Vs a commercial gel. I have replicated the equivalent of a gel by doing a blend of rice porridge, chia seeds, honey, salt, mango and tumeric.
I'm going to try that! I make my own drink with water, maple syrup, lime juice, and salt. Delicious!
This confirmed that I’ve done all of my races (longer than 5K) under-fuelled! When would you recommend taking the first fuel on a longer run, and how often after that? I run quite a bit slower than Jess! 😂
Is it possible to run 10k and HM on fat-burning, by staying within your fat-burning heart rate? (not looking for speed or PB)
Maybe try spring gels? Or any that don’t have caffeine as I don’t like it? Could do a video on the best gels for certain events or attests?
Not just gels, I am finding I am taking out a second mortgage fuelling training runs getting into longer distances! Can you start looking at what works and if simper things like jelly babies on runs or sugary cordials work? What’s the science behind gels etc?
I use tailwind, I'd love to see a good report / experience using it!
Me too. Best thing ever and gentle on the stomach too
The sensor is common für diabetic patients. The health insurance pay for it. For private use it is very expensive
What about diabetic runners ?
It'll only be banned for pros without a medical exemption is my guess.
As a diabetic runner, you only have to go hypo once to realise just how serious not feeding during a long run can be! Most people in my position take glucose tablets or gels etc with them on any long run as you get to know when your levels are getting low and only a complete idiot ignores the signs.
These aren't going to make that much difference for the vast, vast majority of runners with normal systems, but I could see them as a safety measure for very long ultra-runners who could mistake tiredness for undiagnosed diabetes.
I personnally wouldn't want to run with a needle in my arm, but I don't think it should be banned. It's just an additional monitoring system. We are already using a similar one: the watch. It measures our pace, cadence, stride length, speed and, most importantly in this case, the heart rate. Should the pulse control be banned too?
Great blog guys! I liked the balanced content and reference to scientific studies. We should learn to listen to our bodies whispers rather than it's shouts. If tech helps us learn, then why not use it! Thanks again Running Channel.
Would love to see a video dedicated specifically to feeling with the different brands and products. I’m training for my 3rd marathon attempt at breaking 4hrs in May at Milton Keynes. I’ve hit the wall on both other attempts at around mile 21/22. First attempt I didn’t fuel enough. 2nd attempt I did but toward the end of the race the gels were just too sweet for me and I was craving something salty, not sweet. Would love to understand what is happening to me at that point and how I can combat it as I don’t see much talk about anything other than gels.
Snap - I’m also running Milton Keynes in May for my 3rd attempt at sub 4! Hit 4.06 on my 1st and 32 degree C heat meant my 2nd was more about just finishing. See you there.
If you haven’t already tried Maurten Gels, give them a go, not nearly as sweet as other gels. Also the precision hydration blocks are great to use along side.
I have this issue with gel, whenever I take in energy gel whichever the brand my HR will spike. This spike can last for many minutes which will screw up my HR. Any expert advice?
These are cgm‘s and type one diabetics need them. I wouldn‘t be able to exercise without it.
I tend to carry an extra gel on my long lone runs in the forest. My biggest fear is I'd meet someone who's just gotten hyposugary and I'd merrily eaten away my last bits of sugar stuff 5 minutes before. Plus, I had a pouch disaster once, one gel had a tiny puncture and turned bad and I had to spit it out and I was really annoyed. Lesson learnt. Those extra 40-60 g are worth it.
I can testify that the SIS fuels work really well (for amateur runners at least) good variety of flavours too.
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There are better brands out there. I was an avid SIS user but found better.
@@partyguinnessyou going to name them then…?
@@Lewis714I just started using Pure gels. I didn't think it was possible but they're even harder to open whilst sweaty. That said the gel is juice based and easy to digest.
@@Lewis714 Don't want to give anyone free advertising or stand accused of promoting but you do need a lot of 'precision'.
These seem useful, but it's unfortunate you can't buy them in the US. Of the GCMs available here, you also need a Rx from a doctor. It would be even better if there were continuous lactate monitoring devices.
These is actually called continuous glucose monitoring and is very important for some diabetics
Ed Gamble " 'It drives me up the f**king wall. There’s Ozempic and the Zoe app that uses the technology diabetics use to monitor our weight and our body health to tell healthy people what food spikes their blood sugar level.
'I could have told you that if you eat a punnet of grapes that will happen.
'But you don’t have to worry about it because you’ve got a working pancreas!'"
I think we need to be careful about raising awareness of tech used by patients with genuine needs in populations which do not have those needs. While this piece is reasonable balanced and identifies elite athletes as a potentially benefitting group, we should be cognisant of the fact that supply chains are not as robust as they were and additional demand for consumables like sensors by weekend warriors who want to make sure their microbiome is aligned with their chakras (sorry, objectivity slipping) may lead to genuine shortages in the patients with most need.
As the parent of a type 1 diabetic I could not agree with you more! Let's keep the tech for those who really need it
I'm also not sure that it's going to give you enough notice to be of much use. My wife's T1 and uses CGM, but I can't see the benefit for me. If I was going low enough to trigger it, even if I stopped immediately and had a gel, by the time I'd absorbed the sugar it would be game over for the event. If I'm bonking that hard, I'd feel it anyway.
Temperature plays a big role, in how much you think you need...
According to the information provided by Precision Fuel & Hydration the amount of carbs that you can take is limited by the ability of your body to absorb it and that does not seem to correlate with body weight. So their recommended carb intake is the same for a 90 Kg runner or a 65 Kg. They have a lot of information available in their website I highly recommend it, even if you do not intend to buy their products. These guys know their stuff so I tend to trust them.
In professional running they have to preplan fueling strategy so real time data is of limited use. I think that's the biggest difference from cycling
SiS is something that is easy to find in UK in supermarkets.
SIS only contain 22g of carbs. I use Precision which has 30g
Can you try Luchos energy blocks please?
We can definitely look into it!
Why would you ban this? I get terrible low blood sugar on morning runs. I didn't know about this device, but i will be looking into getting one
are you joking? lol. what you want with that shit?
Hi... WHERE IS THE LINK TO GET 1 OF THESE ?? THANK YOU .
There are a few on the market 😁
Most pharmacies stock them
This is interesting I generally run under 2 hours and a typical weekend mountain bike ride we head out for 3. Haven't eaten a carb in nearly 9 months now. Essentially just eat meat and eggs. Find if we ride hard and I feel like I am blown, I just ride easy for 10 minutes and can up the tempo again. Guys I ride with are all sucking gels every 30min?? I train 6 days a week.
I don’t think it gives an unfair advantage anywhere near as much as a super shoe does
How about for "Fasted" runners?is there an optimal way of knowing how many calories do we need?thanks
very easy to calculate. your kg x the km. that is your calories
The device was indeed banned by the UCI in 2021. But seems Diabetic athletes get derogations.
A quick search found me this:
"Devices which capture other physiological data, including any metabolic values
such as but not limited to glucose or lactate are not authorised in competition." [...] "The UCI may grant derogations to any envisaged use of onboard technology which is
not authorised by the present article. Derogation requests shall be assessed, inter
alia, in consideration of criteria of equal access to equipment, sporting fairness and
integrity, and shall also comply with articles 1.3.001 to 1.3.006. Derogations may be
limited to specific events and riders or teams."
Having a Maccies the night before my Parkrun wasn't really optimal carb-loading. Carb-slothing might be more accurate. Having an empty stomach makes me run 5ks the fastest.
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neither is a curry I found out... 🤣
AFAIK it is not "because it gives too much of an advantage".
UCI banned it, but they did not state why.
The most likely reason IMO is that they simply don't like the way it looks.
UCI has part of their guidelines to preserve the aesthetic of cycling and they regularly ban things simply because they think they don't look the way they think cycling should look.
When I heard "banned from cycling" loads of stuff came to mind, EPO, lugworm blood or even socks too long... cycling has a lot of stuff banned, some make sense, others are kind of ridiculous.
About same amount of nutrition during my marathons, 6 gels in total. One about 10-15 minutes before the start, the rest very strictly every 7 kilometers. When training (long runs) at a more moderate pace, I'll stretch this out to roughly a gel every 10 kilometers.
If that works for you then that's great!
I'd recommend experimenting with the reverse - low carb and relying on burning fat instead, by going at a moderate enough pace to stay within you fat-burning heart rate.
@@aliasgharkhoyee9501 In my case, bad idea ... Let's just say I've got very little fat to burn off 😝
@@fantaflesdopke well, dietary fat to the rescue then, with the side benefit of more delicious food? :)
@@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Don't really see the point here 😕 I get what you're saying. Just nothing to be gained for me personally. No bad habits, healthy (and yes, delicious!) food, and got my nutrition methods down for hard workouts and races 🙂 All others physical activities are indeed at low(er) heart rate, most of those even fasted, and I always fuel and hydrate as soon as I'm back
Carb loading never worked for me. Except when eating sandwich cake. Pasta never works. Guess it is different for other people.I just whatever comes in my stomach.
It varies from person to person, what do you find works for you?
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I don’t think anything that is available to everyone should be banned…. so long as it’s safe and legal, any athlete should be able to use it in training or in competition.
Do you think some peoples wall is more due to not drinking enough pre and during a workout
The wall is not so much nutrition but lack of proper dedicated training I.e. poor aerobic base. There is somewhat of myth out there that the hitting the ‘wall’ is due to lack of fueling. Of course you have to fuel and perhaps it’s more relevant for slower runners who are on their feet for several hours longer. The quicker you get the less you have to worry about fueling.
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Yes -what device are you using . Do you have a li k to get that 1 .. 👍?
I use these as a diabetic and as a runner they provide no additional information for running. Why the bleep anyone who doesn't need to monitor choose to do so? Why the drive to overcomplicate running for people? Perhaps I'm just old now.
Though training on Keto or fully carnivore means no more hitting the wall.....
how long have you been keto for?
4 years now and the past 4 months on complete carnivore. Just at the end of a month of 10k every day too. If you have time its worth watching Prof Tim Noakes (write Carb loading) and his study on high and low carb diets for athletes. I may try one of these monitors as well to shine a light on glucose levels during training for someone with zero carbs in their diet. @@runningchannel
... because you live on the other side of that wall. The low performing side.
Interesting. Different for road cyclists because (usually) they are racing for longer....
Here I go, buying another piece of equipment that I don't know how to use the data.
This is essential tech for diabetics. Not sure about amateur athletes ? how much tech do you really need to compete in amateur sporting events ?
Let the pro athletes have at it ... One pro cyclist did make a good point that when his team tested it the data was a little detailed and inconclusive. However, he said a lactate monitor would be much better and useful. Something far more useful for pro's and amateurs alike perhaps. Lactate training giving huge improvements in performance for all and lower hanging fruit
Why ban something that does not give an advantage just gives stats to where you’re at…. Interesting but not sure about having a needle stuck in my arm for 14 days 🤷🏼♂️
Let down by the Running Channel when will this stop? Zoe is pointless! Glucose intake should be simple and based on two principles. Duration and intensity. Fat oxidation would be the body's second choice and its preferred choice is carbs. Only when that glucose is nearly depleted (farsting) would fat oxidation would occur. The central governor model which regulates exertion will ensure the illusion of fatigue and how you perceive intensity plays a part when that depletion starts to happen. Simply: Your brain is super smart and will give you signs that you need to get carbs on board. That model also looks at other modifiers that will hinder your readiness to train. No need for Zoe's device just listen to the signals from your brain 🧠 A lack of carbs will result in a run feeling more intense and your energy output will be very low. If you are willing to suffer those negatives in the pursuit of fat oxidation go for it just don't expect those runs to be great.
Maybe you should watch again and pay attention this time?
I have watched it. People should not endorse Zoe. Misinformation is the weapon of choice. There is some good advice in this video but it's pointless because we all deplete carbs differently. Unless you are diabetic, there is no need for this device
It's a good job that being allergic to bicycles is symptom of diabetes
Snark aside, a arguably foreseeable benefit of non diabetics using tech like this can easily drive accessibility higher for those with a medical need...
I never understood why tech is banned. Things like this can help athletes perform better without breaking down so often. Instead of banning it why not make it more accessible?
My best friend has a banned cycling skinsuit 🚴♂
Kinky 😉
If you're really good at sport, you won't need to buy these items they will be gifted to you by sponsors ❤
As a diabetic I'm living for the day they try and ban from a race for wearing one 😅
we'll protest with you!
Fueling for run of one hour :) seriously
I don't think it should be banned for cycling. I think it's another example of the UCI choosing tradition over cyclists' long term health. Why do Tour de France competitors who don't use EPO develop osteopenia and osteoporosis in their 30s and 40s? Monitoring glucose and glycogen would help prevent such conditions in endurance athletics.
This video aged quickly. Company has now shutdown. Couldn't get approval in the US and also quite difficult to give users proper insights and actionable information.