Gen 1 Suzuki Hayabusa Miss (Part 2) Compression and Leak Down Testing

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @BrockDavidson
    @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +5

    Click MORE for additional information on VIDEO CHAPTERS and TIMESTAMPS. We EDIT our subtitles! - Select English for the best international translation. ** Please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE if you enjoy our channel!**

    • @just_j6514
      @just_j6514 Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for everything! It's awesome watching a true legend 🙌 👏 wrenching on bikes!

  • @williamwintemberg
    @williamwintemberg Před 2 lety +7

    Years of experience given to us for a watch. It doesn't get any better! Thanks Brock! Can't wait for part 3!

  • @howtowastesometime7969
    @howtowastesometime7969 Před 2 lety +5

    I ran into a odd cylinder miss recently on a zx14. You could hear the miss. Used a digital temp gauge on each header pipe. Number 1 was about 200 degrees less than other cylinders. Other 3 were 600 degrees number 1 was 400. Checked plug and coil which were ok. Started getting worried and was about to dig into engine but I could not believe the engine had a problem. Went back and tested coil and plug by swapping to a different cylinder and the problem followed. Moved only plug to another cylinder and the problem followed. Turned out to be an intermittent plug failure. Been working fine ever since.

  • @josephmatos7581
    @josephmatos7581 Před rokem +1

    One of the best explained videos out there. Not just “this is how you do it.” But, “why, you do it.” It’s helping me troubleshoot my busa, and then some thanks for all the effort is very appreciated!

  • @Motive12Volt
    @Motive12Volt Před 2 lety +5

    I agree that Suzuki made them user friendly with maintenance. I rebuilt my gv650 (I’m a car mechanic) and was surprisingly simple on the motor removal. Love the vids 👏 ride safe

  • @3Telecasters
    @3Telecasters Před 2 lety +1

    I could watch this stuff all day. Thanks for making them Brock!

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      Glad you like. The next episode is VERY long and chocked full of info.

  • @wenchi88
    @wenchi88 Před 2 lety +2

    Pls keep making more of these video's...
    It is so educational...!!!

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      We will keep making them as long as you enjoy them!

  • @gaddy8964
    @gaddy8964 Před 2 lety +2

    My personalized version of Hot Rod TV thanks for sharing this Brock...👍🏾🤘🏾🍻

  • @joechancio5177
    @joechancio5177 Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome video brock. Thats one crazy story about your friend catching everything on fire.

  • @derekscarrsr2688
    @derekscarrsr2688 Před 2 lety +2

    I own a 2005 busa I bought new, please keep the tech coming, thanks, Brock.👌

  • @THOMAS-gi8kx
    @THOMAS-gi8kx Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Brock, I have a Gen2 Busa, appreciate your vids, I am not a pro mechanic but handy enough with the spanners, do all my own servicing of my Busa as I enjoy it very much. Professional info, presented by a Pro.
    Looking forward to part 3.
    👍🏻🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @EnchanterOfRanks
    @EnchanterOfRanks Před 2 lety +4

    Man these videos are great. Thanks for uploading

  • @alotl1kevegas860
    @alotl1kevegas860 Před 2 lety +1

    These Suzuki engines are bullet proof. I had a K4 that randomly kept dumping fuel into cylinder #4. Compression test revealed 112psi in cylinder 4. I thought for sure the gas washed the cylinder, and melted the rings. I fixed the electrical issue, dumped a little oil in the cylinder, changed the oil, and put it together. Rode it for 200 miles or so. Compression came right back up to 180+ psi.
    Ever since then, I've been sold on Suzuki's.

    • @muckle8
      @muckle8 Před 2 lety

      Good choice - Suzuki -simply the best.

  • @conservative-proud
    @conservative-proud Před 7 měsíci

    If you have a miss, the first thing I do is identify which cylinder had a miss… you do that by checking the temperature on each exhaust… if you have a miss, it usually isn’t compression related… once you’ve die dies which cylinder, then swap ignition coil sticks… if the miss follows the ignition coil, then you know what to do… it was difficult to see how much the cam timing was out, but didn’t look like a whole tooth… could be stretched cam chain… I usually change timing chains between 80-100k (kilometres)… anyway, good video, thanks for sharing…

  • @tysoncott7402
    @tysoncott7402 Před 2 lety +1

    This has been an interesting watch, i’m sort of in the same boat as you, i’m restoring a 99 ZX9R that has a miss on cyl #3, after watching this a leak down check is in order, its showing good cranking compression but has a miss @ idle & low rev’s, carbs are cleaned, rebuilt, & sync’d, fresh plugs, ots been perplexing to say the least

  • @TOPSPEEDBUSA
    @TOPSPEEDBUSA Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Brock for everything you do! 🇺🇸🙏🏍

  • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
    @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Před 2 lety +1

    That's some great ingenuity with the zip tie and the breaker bar.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      I was born in West Virginia...for some reason, things like that come naturally to me , lol ;)

    • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
      @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Před 2 lety

      @@BrockDavidson are you from close to where Nick Saban was born? Seems to be a lot of greatness from that state💪💯

  • @chihuahuaverde425
    @chihuahuaverde425 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice and thorough video. Thanks!

  • @matthysharmse4200
    @matthysharmse4200 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant video. Loved the part about manually having idle adjusters. Yea the good old days. My 09 CBR600 recently had high idle problems...took some time to figure out the issue. All.i can say is. It wasnt the idle control valve. Like you said Brock. Look past the OEM parts for problems. If only i knew that sooner. Hahaha. Problem solved. Your videos are inspiring and gives me a lot of confidence to work on my own motorcycle. Be blessed Brock.

  • @stevecambers3190
    @stevecambers3190 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a Boss, who knows his stuff & who likes getting his hands dirty.
    How cool is that?

  • @alokkulkarni78
    @alokkulkarni78 Před rokem +1

    Lovely in depth work, thanks so much for doing this for us🙏

  • @michaelsmartin5388
    @michaelsmartin5388 Před 2 lety

    cannot wait for next episode. Nice to see that experienced, knowledgeable people have issues taken apart something they have done many many times before. Just glad i have a 2 cylinder with a carb. Fits my limited patience and knowledge 🤣

  • @codywichman213
    @codywichman213 Před 2 lety

    just had to do this on my gsxr. looks like i had a few tight intake valves causing valve sealing issues. Keep making diag videos..its great to see your thought process

  • @abubakrsheik3649
    @abubakrsheik3649 Před 2 lety +1

    Super stuff Brock, absolutely love the in depth information an detail with these types of videos..huge fan of your channel an thanks for putting in so much effort into this content really appreciate it..🙌🤝

  • @shaquilleyarzagaray868

    Somehow i feel every part that he puts his hands on it never gets old working on the busa engines😂

  • @nickrider5220
    @nickrider5220 Před 2 lety +2

    Love these videos, thanks 👍👍

  • @TreadTalk247
    @TreadTalk247 Před 2 lety

    Great info and video as par for the course w anything you share Brock! Always….ALWAYS…Top Notch stuff!
    Speaking of fires, I have a coworker, his Dad has always been a car guy and has built some really high end muscle and classic cars!
    Had just bought a new to him home, was working in his garage, had FOUR really nice muscle cars including a beautiful 1969 Camaro!
    Was Wintertime and had a space heater, the ones w the orange glowing elements, and had disconnected the battery while working on the car, decided to crank over the car forgetting that he had pulled a fuel line coming from the fuel pump to the carb….
    Catching on yet?
    Well, went to crank the car and nothing, went to investigate and found he hadn’t reconnected the battery, not realizing he had the ignition in the one position, well as soon as he reconnected that battery the fuel pump came on and fuel shot out all over the place and within seconds, before he couldn’t even react, the fuel got to the space heater and ignited the fuel and instantly spread to the car and ended up burning all found muscle cars, including that 1969 Camaro, and burned the entire garage to the ground!
    Destroyed his tools, lifts, EVERYTHING!!!
    Burned his body but he lived and luckily his garage was detached and even though the fire was so bad that it melted the siding on the main home, the home wasn’t too badly damaged!!
    So I can appreciate your safety routine, I mentioned to you in another video that when I was 17 a car battery exploded in my face blinding for 25-30 minutes so I feel you on removing that battery as well!!
    Again, ALWAYS great content and I love to learn from you!!
    #Brocks4ever
    #StupidFastNotStupidWorkEthics

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      I just felt physically sick :( Glad he is ok...but damn, what a price to pay for a simple mistake. No more open flames for me an longer....Im either in a properly heated area - or cold.

  • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

    Uncle Brock is a boss! 😁

  • @vegareggan
    @vegareggan Před rokem

    Stripped down my crankshaft plug last year. Tried heat, knocking with a rubber mallet, using valve grinding paste on the hex to make it grip but no Fxxxing way!! had to time it by rotating the rear wheel instead. Ordered a new one for next inspection but i still need to get the darn thing off.. Those caps can be a real PITA ...

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před rokem +1

      They are cast and will break away easily. You just have to be careful not to damage the cases. Remove the cover flip it over and try to crack the cap out with a chisel as a last resort, if needed.

  • @shortymack340
    @shortymack340 Před 2 lety +1

    Great info to know about a popular bike thanks

  • @raymondsaults7603
    @raymondsaults7603 Před 2 lety +1

    Been having a miss that’s gradually gotten worse to the point where my bike will barely start. It’s had a manual tensioner for a few years and I didn’t think anything about it being a timing issue. Time to tear farther into it.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      You definitely sound like a candidate to look into your cam chain/timing.

  • @davidelizabeth4933
    @davidelizabeth4933 Před 2 lety +1

    Love it, Mr. Davidson! Appreciate this!!! Very interesting stuff.
    ❤❤

  • @848evo4
    @848evo4 Před 2 lety

    Brock you the man, sorry you had to sweet for our enjoyment and education

  • @davidashton9580
    @davidashton9580 Před 2 lety

    Love the gasket pic 📸 that's what I call a Trial by FIRE 🔥, THANKS for all your hard work and prep putting this together 👍 Dave in the UK 🇬🇧.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      lol, that's from back in the GSX-R/Bandit days....double or triple the count once you add Busa's/GSX-R1000's/S1000RR's etc. In the old AMA Dragbike/Prostar SuperSport days, we had to disassemble the engines for inspection and it could happen at every race if tech thought there was a problem. We won 6 national championships and had 8-10 races per season. I could do it in my sleep back then :)

    • @davidashton9580
      @davidashton9580 Před 2 lety

      @@BrockDavidson WOW

  • @kayhoww
    @kayhoww Před 2 lety

    Yes part 2! Finally!

  • @jockvanniekerk8074
    @jockvanniekerk8074 Před rokem

    Brock in the kawasaki race manual it says for the valve clearance.
    More performance is expected when adjusted from middle value to upper limit between adjustable range.
    But don't you want it at the minimum clearance to open the valve sooner and more.
    Thanks

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před rokem

      Correct. I'm not sure why the factory manuals like more clearance...other than guys getting it too tight and causing problems.

    • @jockvanniekerk8074
      @jockvanniekerk8074 Před rokem

      So brock what would you recommend for the minimum clearance on intake and exhaust please

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před rokem

      @@jockvanniekerk8074 .005 in/.007 ex MIN

  • @xD3vill
    @xD3vill Před 2 lety +1

    i dont even own a bike yet and im here watching this video and also watch part one,, now waiting for part 3 Xd

  • @H-M-78
    @H-M-78 Před 2 lety

    On my busa there was a big difference warm/cold engine when doing compression test. And from what I know its only the gen 2 and 3 that has the titanium valves

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      Good catch on the valves! They run together after a while. There are many things that can affect compassion results - gas/oil/fuel in cylinder...condensation, surface rust etc. We perform the tests after warm-up as this best represents the state the engine is operating in.

  • @airwaynelson
    @airwaynelson Před 2 lety

    Clear Prop! great videos!

  • @ransomholbrook7428
    @ransomholbrook7428 Před 2 lety

    Great Videos!
    Without being a spoiler (I understand what you are trying to do here) however, I would have, before pulling the valve cover, started the bike and pulled the cam sensor connection. It "should" have rev'd without a miss, showing me that the cam timing was off (or a cam sensor going south). :)

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      Hey @Ransom Holbrook -- SUPER FAST guy in the house! (Learn more about Ransom here: bit.ly/3PKMTR9 ) You have more experience with these engines than most, for certain. Teach me something here my friend. You are saying to unplug the cam position sensor and the bike should rev without a miss? And if it does... the cam timing might be off? and/or the sensor is going bad? I'm confused - can you explain in more detail?

    • @ransomholbrook7428
      @ransomholbrook7428 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BrockDavidson
      So what happens in the ECU is that the cam sensor and crank sensor communicate with each other. The bike will not start without a cam sensor signal because the ECU doesn't know if number 1 or number 4 is at "true" TDC by reading only the crank sensor. Higher RPM misses and/or false REV limiters are caused by the ECU seeing the cam sensor outside of the "proper window" based on the cam sensor signal. Assuming the cam timing is off, then you get the miss or false REV limiter and this is also the reason you can set the intake cam above 114 degrees [it goes outside of the expected window of operation]. So.....if you start the bike and then unplug the cam sensor, the ECU ignores the cam signal all together and depends soley on the crank sensor for RPM/Ignition and such. I've seen this a many time on the dyno, easy to diagnose.
      Good?

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      Ok, the key is to unplug the sensor after the bike is running. I'll try that next time I get a chance. Not sure if you know, but you can reverse our cam pin to allow lc numbers above 114 also.

  • @juliohernandez2378
    @juliohernandez2378 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video instruction....Thanks you sir!!

  • @m1cky6
    @m1cky6 Před 2 lety

    Enjoying these videos, appreciate you turning the air-conditioning off. What ever became of the build you were doing on your sons Harley? I was looking forward to seeing how that turned out but sadly only saw the one video on it.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      That series is on hold until later in the year - but we are not finished.

    • @m1cky6
      @m1cky6 Před 2 lety

      @@BrockDavidson Awesome!! Look forward to it. 👍

  • @throttleitup
    @throttleitup Před 2 lety

    The breaker bar works,also putting the bike in gear works.

  • @georgeanddaddecker7563
    @georgeanddaddecker7563 Před 2 lety +1

    Stretched cam chain , worn cam chain guides, and improperly adjusted cam chain tensioner. Lucky a piston did not contact a valve.

  • @brendanflegle3326
    @brendanflegle3326 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks man

  • @Vystruck
    @Vystruck Před 2 lety

    Awesome video man

  • @roadrash2325
    @roadrash2325 Před 2 lety

    Hi and thanks for your work. How do you think is it necessary to warm up the engine before the compression test?

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      I read the instructions that came with the compression tester...

  • @victorgonza4528
    @victorgonza4528 Před 2 lety

    You did say the manual tensioner wasnt adjusted for the cam chain .

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      No. The tensioner was originally adjusted and worked well for a long time... but just like any chain, the cam chain adjustment must be maintained to prevent the chain from slipping on the sprockets as it stretches due to natural wear. Hyvo style chains are quiet, but they don't have much engagement - so proper tension is even more important...that's why the OEM tensioner self-adjusts.

  • @valterponte
    @valterponte Před 2 lety

    Brock how come the leak test results were so good if the timing was off? wouldn't that mean that at tdc the valves might not be completely closed?

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      @valter ponte - Great question! The simplest reason is that it only jumper one tooth...any more than that and the valves might not have shut at TDC, but they would all also probably be bent by collisions with the piston.

  • @K-carbon
    @K-carbon Před 2 lety

    Really enjoyed the video brock
    Is the Gen3 busa as straight forward as the Gen1 overall to work on service mantain

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      @TT - yes, for the most part. The hidden fasteners on the G3 fairing require special care to find and disassemble without breaking them - but the service manual does a great job with this. It has far more electronic controls to help with corner, braking and rider control... but they require no maintenance.

  • @christopherament8638
    @christopherament8638 Před 2 lety

    Get Mac rbrt Allen set won’t strip out and ruin the bolt

  • @nathanaeldiaz3695
    @nathanaeldiaz3695 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey, how we doing I like to know where I can take my Hayabusa around here. I’m leaving and New Port Richey, Florida.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 5 měsíci

      blog.brocksperformance.com/dealer-locator/

  • @Da-wooley18
    @Da-wooley18 Před 2 lety

    Awesome content papa Brock knows best lol
    Honestly I feel like you need a t shirt that says that
    Jokes aside your videos are building my confidence to break into my motor
    I have been strongly considering the super charger from TCC or a turbo from RCC on a Busa and thoughts or advice

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      Those are BIG jumps from what we are doing here - but they both have excellent reputations.

  • @jockvanniekerk8074
    @jockvanniekerk8074 Před 2 lety

    Hi brock great video so the plug gap 20 thousands does that apply to drag racing aswell and how about turbo application.
    Thanks

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      Yes. The theory is that it's tougher to "blow-out" the shorter plug gap.

  • @lucasandresmartinez402

    Hi, I'm following you from Spain and I've been wanting to ask you about a rumor for a long time, that the goldwings since 2018 that arrive in Europe are limited and not in the rest of the world, do you know if that's true? At the same time tell you that since the year 22 it is said that the dct is softer and more pleasant, it seems that honda is not going to do anything about it, to update from 18 to 21, it has occurred to you to modify the control unit to improve this issue and at the same time delimit it .. tell me and thank you very much for your time…. greetings from Spain….

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      @lucas andres martinez - Hello from the US. Generally speaking, the US has some of the highest restrictions due to California's regulations. Any large displacement engine these days is restricted. I tested a 2018 Goldwing here, it was seriously restricted. Guhl Motors had a flash for them, but they are no longer in business.

    • @lucasandresmartinez402
      @lucasandresmartinez402 Před 2 lety

      hello, thank you very much for your answer… greetings from Spain

  • @donaldwiggins7740
    @donaldwiggins7740 Před 2 lety

    Hey Brock! would you dyno my bike that was flashed by moore mafia? hes too far away and im curious about what my bike is doing or so. Had it woolich tuned. Just curious. I called and the shop said no lol. I am local to you and bought parts and such over the years.
    Not needed, just fun curiousity.- 2022 gsx-s1000 GT.

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      @Donald, fill this out: blog.brocksperformance.com/bikes-wanted/

  • @usaamahstreetrider
    @usaamahstreetrider Před 2 lety

    You can video install zx10r 2022 lowering link please

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      It's easy! So you know, the Gen 5 links will not work on the Gen 6. We have Gen 6 in production and new instructions to match. They should be available in 4-6 weeks.

    • @usaamahstreetrider
      @usaamahstreetrider Před 2 lety

      @@BrockDavidson soon video your channel?

  • @Conny-lh2xo
    @Conny-lh2xo Před 2 lety +1

    Hahaha, thanks for no AC 👍 And great to watch

  • @nunoantunes2252
    @nunoantunes2252 Před 2 lety

    Old school stuff

  • @grayv3
    @grayv3 Před 2 lety

    Impact driver’s work great

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety

      The part is thin cast aluminum...impact drivers blow straight through the cover.

    • @grayv3
      @grayv3 Před 2 lety

      @@BrockDavidson wow! Didn’t realize they were that delicate

  • @lectric255
    @lectric255 Před 2 lety

    What cameras are those?

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      Both are Sony 4K. I can get exact specs if you like.

    • @lectric255
      @lectric255 Před 2 lety

      That's okay they look really good quality 😊

  • @HarryNoze
    @HarryNoze Před 2 lety

    If they ever make a movie about you, my vote is for Paul giamatti to play you.

  • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
    @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Před 2 lety

    Those plugs always get stuck. We've gotten to where we just tighten them up by hand. Lol

    • @BrockDavidson
      @BrockDavidson  Před 2 lety +1

      Me also, with antiseze on the threads.

    • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
      @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS Před 2 lety +1

      @@BrockDavidson we love Hayabusa's.... Our favorite is the Gen 1 transmission. We keep them on the shelf ready to go.
      And like you said, they're easy to get out of the frame.