You can tell the people that work at that show place have no idea how to handle that kind of equipment. Nor do they have any idea how to give directions properly. As for the loader, the rails are probably up for when you service the machine (show it off) and should have been down as soon as the engine was fired up. It is not a design, but operator flaw (walk around your machine before you drive it, every drivers responsibility). Shit happens though.
Its not a shop its a chaotic expo area where dozens of manufacturers are all separately trying to move their equipment displays out of the building to a tight schedule so the next expo can set up.
Good observation! I suppose they just throw existing designs together to make a new machine due to cost efficiency. The front end is likely off a scraper.
What the fuck are you complaining about? Those people are WORKING WITH HEAVY MACHINERY perhaps it gets cleaned at a different time. You must work in an office environment.
Judging by everything that is in the background, that appears to be at an expo of some sort. The mess is probably coming from tearing down all the booths and/or the clients that visited the expo.
That is why most workshops have TAs. With all that money that CAT makes by ripping people off, surely you could afford a TA or two. Komatsu workshops are exceptionally cleaner, even after EXPOs
It was a Caterpillar built locomotive on display at Minexpo that you can see in the video. I have a video of it sitting on the massive transportation trailer it came on as well.
I think those rails are supposed to get flipped down before it's run. Cat wouldn't design an ATD that had guard rails that interfered with its articulation unless they were meant to be retracted or folded down.
so terrible, they'll have to scrap the whole unit, or do a complete overhaul. /s someone will probably bang it out or replace the parts in 10 mins once they have it out of the shop.
You are all together big Cat truck drivers!! When you drive this truck especially an all new one, the surroundings look so thiny and breakable you won't believe!!!
Nothing like a scraper these things are built so strong you could have a head on and not have any damage I seen one at work the other day the ad60 is massive
Useless spotter. He can't see your finger movements from inside the cab. Always use full, exaggerated arm motions when spotting someone in ANY vehicle.
Probably not, If the truck was already sold to a customer then the exhibition would have to pay for the damage. however if the truck wasn't sold they might have to pay caterpillar or they might just replace it for free.
Dump trucks, loaders, hi-lifts and locomotives? Sounds like my toy box from when I was a kid. Are these machines used in a mine? Just wondering because of their low profile design.
I suspect it's entirely deliberate - on an underground mining machine like that space is at a premium. You only put the rails in place when you need them and put them down after you've finished working - like putting the hood up on your car when you're working on the engine and dropping it afterwards. But it's hard to drive off with the hood up! Operator evidently forgot the rails had been put up for the static exhibit, or one of the show staff put them up and the get-out crew didn't realise.
So True, sadly the first guy is just waving his hands in a crazy fashion, the driver appears to not have a clue how to drive it, and the second signal guy knows less than the first! Bad Signals + Bad Driver = Damage
That ladder just got crushed in a pinch point so the guys first reaction was to crawl up there while the thing was running with someone behind the wheel and put his body in the same crush hazard area? Good thing he's wearing his hard hat.
Whoops! Looks like those guard rails aren't supposed to be up during operation. That's okay. None of those safety rails ever survive the first month of operation, anyway.
In moving a big, complex machine like this, there must be someone who has overall responsibility. I would think that it should have been the older guy on the floor, in front. He should have walked the assumed path, controlled the area (WTF with all those flitting carts and forklifts and casual strolling people staring at the smartphones!). In addition to that, he should have certified the vehicle as ready for the move, that is, no wheel chocks, no power cables draped across a bumper, and yes, all accessories / safety systems ready for travel. This whole crew doesn't work well with each other, but I nearly screamed when I saw that old guy, holding a conversation with the forklift driver, his eyes off his monitoring task, but his damn hand still vigorously waving the driver to continue.
The Cat Ad60 is a mining truck, made to travel through tunnels with low ceilings. Thats why its a bit ugly - ground clearance is less important that low overall height.
I knew my employees weren't the only ones who could screw up backing an articulated truck out of the shop. but to be fair, my guys have screwed it up multiple times, so they win I guess.....
You'd think safety would be a priority in such a place. He should have made it very clear to the operator that he was climbing aboard. He just kinda swung his hand. AND FACE THE LADDER/STAIRCASE AS YOU CLIMB DOWN and use three points of contact at all times.
its actually a safety requirement to have those railings/gate in place. and guess what, its FOLD-ABLE! they forgot to fold it! Well someone didn't read the manuals.
You know when you get that new car & you're worried about that first scratch? A good salesman can charge extra for this and call it worry free scratch warranty.
You would think on something that size there would be all sorts of surround vision cameras. A cheap nissan Murano has surround vision, why can't they do the same for these trucks?
+KarasCyborg Because in their line of work, they hardly ever need that visibility. The real issue is how expensive it would be to continually maintain these camera systems. Particularly on a dump bed with over 70 tons of material going through it, you'll be replacing cameras nearly constantly. It just isn't economic. A Nissan Murano doesn't haul 70 tons of mining material 24/7 and have 70 tons of rocks pounding on it's tailgate every load.
+Eyebrows Mahoney I wonder if they can make them like the tank cameras or the bradley fighting machine cameras or make some sort of retractable cameras in an armored housing. Might be an innovative idea.
its a combination of 630G Scraper and Articulated Dump Truck...the front is looks like scraper 630G and back looks like Articulated Dump Truck hahaha...nice.
im not saying that the visibility of this truck is not ideal, but what im trying to tell you is that you cant see shit other than the engine when you are driving this monster ...
agreed, this is one of the hardest videos ive ever had to watch.lol If I was there at the start of this video I would have moved way away from that whole scene. Then the one poor fucker gets up there in the pinch point while the janitor still has his hands on the steering wheel. lol I wouldnt go up there with him in the seat for fuck sake.
Jesus, so the articulation has caused the tray to damage the handrail- I know, I'll go put my soft meaty flesh body exactly where it happened while the vehicle isn't the isolated
Great video - just shows you have check everything - twice! I have to ask, what were the loco's that you had in shot? Were they re-build/re-motored? Thanks for sharing!
to all that don't know nothing and go on about it this ad 60 was the very first one we built as a display model in Burnie Tasmania Australia look it up for the trade show both this and the 3000h loader it has now replaced the old ad55b truck and the hand rails can be folded down flat onto the body i should know i work there.
Don't waste your time watching the whole video. Just start it at 4:22
+Josh Carr thanks!
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You can tell the people that work at that show place have no idea how to handle that kind of equipment. Nor do they have any idea how to give directions properly. As for the loader, the rails are probably up for when you service the machine (show it off) and should have been down as soon as the engine was fired up. It is not a design, but operator flaw (walk around your machine before you drive it, every drivers responsibility). Shit happens though.
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Its not a shop its a chaotic expo area where dozens of manufacturers are all separately trying to move their equipment displays out of the building to a tight schedule so the next expo can set up.
Cat makes some very impressive construction machines/vehicles.
Good observation! I suppose they just throw existing designs together to make a new machine due to cost efficiency. The front end is likely off a scraper.
That workshop floor looks like a disgrace!
No pride
What the fuck are you complaining about? Those people are WORKING WITH HEAVY MACHINERY perhaps it gets cleaned at a different time.
You must work in an office environment.
Judging by everything that is in the background, that appears to be at an expo of some sort. The mess is probably coming from tearing down all the booths and/or the clients that visited the expo.
That is why most workshops have TAs.
With all that money that CAT makes by ripping people off, surely you could afford a TA or two.
Komatsu workshops are exceptionally cleaner, even after EXPOs
It was a Caterpillar built locomotive on display at Minexpo that you can see in the video. I have a video of it sitting on the massive transportation trailer it came on as well.
I think those rails are supposed to get flipped down before it's run. Cat wouldn't design an ATD that had guard rails that interfered with its articulation unless they were meant to be retracted or folded down.
NOT A SCRATCH OH NO. thing will have thousands of scratches on its first trip underground lol.
Yeah, The paint looks pretty, until you start using it. :)
Exactly. Give it 10 minutes out in the field and that will be the least of the "blemishes".
so terrible, they'll have to scrap the whole unit, or do a complete overhaul. /s
someone will probably bang it out or replace the parts in 10 mins once they have it out of the shop.
Well, caterpillar buckets are made of cheap alloys, and welded by incompetent nutcases without preheating. Use SSAB steels for god's sakes.
Love the glare the new yellow paint gives off.
Lets count the number of safety violations in that short video...
CorrectiveAction to many
Honestly i don't see many
You are all together big Cat truck drivers!! When you drive this truck especially an all new one, the surroundings look so thiny and breakable you won't believe!!!
Perfect case, of the blind leading the blind.
I was expecting like a massive scratch down the side :P
I blame it on the guy giving the obtuse hand signals. after watching the video I got up and walked into the door.
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I love it how total "know it alls" talk about these trucks like they know what they even are.
Nothing like a scraper these things are built so strong you could have a head on and not have any damage I seen one at work the other day the ad60 is massive
a clean shop is a happy shop so sweep your floor ,dang
Useless spotter. He can't see your finger movements from inside the cab. Always use full, exaggerated arm motions when spotting someone in ANY vehicle.
I bet the guys from Komatsu were laughing their asses off!
i watched all that time for that? good grief
didn't need those guards; they're never used anyway...
Did they have to throw the truck away?
Probably not, If the truck was already sold to a customer then the exhibition would have to pay for the damage. however if the truck wasn't sold they might have to pay caterpillar or they might just replace it for free.
If I just spent that kind of money for a new truck.... I sure wouldn't want toilet paper all over the wheels !!
Dump trucks, loaders, hi-lifts and locomotives? Sounds like my toy box from when I was a kid. Are these machines used in a mine? Just wondering because of their low profile design.
Yes they are for underground work.
No man, Its the new Mexican Latino low rider version!!!
The rail should have been folded down before moving it I would imagine.
Service guards DOWN when in transit... read the fkn manual.. lmao
I suspect it's entirely deliberate - on an underground mining machine like that space is at a premium. You only put the rails in place when you need them and put them down after you've finished working - like putting the hood up on your car when you're working on the engine and dropping it afterwards. But it's hard to drive off with the hood up! Operator evidently forgot the rails had been put up for the static exhibit, or one of the show staff put them up and the get-out crew didn't realise.
I didn't know that cats could scratch themselves!
So True, sadly the first guy is just waving his hands in a crazy fashion, the driver appears to not have a clue how to drive it, and the second signal guy knows less than the first! Bad Signals + Bad Driver = Damage
Is this like a car show, for big machines?
yes its Minexpo 2012 for big mining heavy equipment.
In case you were wondering who those guys are, their names are Curly, Larry, and Moe.
That's a nice looking piece of machinery. Like the design.
I want another one, the railings are busted on this one.
Jesus christ... A really proffessional team..
They have gone overboard with all the safety junk.
Electrically driven wheels like a locomotive? Cool
lets make an Aliens movie
its not a factory. its after an expo and those guys likely never moved one before.
That ladder just got crushed in a pinch point so the guys first reaction was to crawl up there while the thing was running with someone behind the wheel and put his body in the same crush hazard area? Good thing he's wearing his hard hat.
I didn't shit myself until I saw a train in this building.
love the coloured guy just driving around il go this way no wait il go back the way i came dam i came in here to hide but its heaving
looks like the janitor's on strike lol
oops some one forgot to drop the safety rails before he moved it
first thing that gets ripped off when it gets on site
Cant believe the people just walking randomly across the floor.
And MINExpo returns to Vegas in September of this year (2016)
Cant wait. It's a fun show. mining business is in the pits though
(little pun there)
I thought the front wheels actually steered, took me a while to figure out how it turned lol. Cool vid.
Dang, looks like he has to fight the clutch all the way, I woulda thought all big machinery used hydrostatic drives nowadays ?
All of these 'professional' workers around, and nobody noticed that? Lol.
shop manager should get someone out there to sweep those floors
I would imagine this piece of equipment is small enough to be moved in one piece.
*Made in Tasmania, and it's not part scraper, it's 100% custom designed and built
Not to mention the tiny finger signals the ground guide is using.
It's going to get a hell of a lot more scratches than that.
Whoops! Looks like those guard rails aren't supposed to be up during operation. That's okay. None of those safety rails ever survive the first month of operation, anyway.
In moving a big, complex machine like this, there must be someone who has overall responsibility. I would think that it should have been the older guy on the floor, in front. He should have walked the assumed path, controlled the area (WTF with all those flitting carts and forklifts and casual strolling people staring at the smartphones!). In addition to that, he should have certified the vehicle as ready for the move, that is, no wheel chocks, no power cables draped across a bumper, and yes, all accessories / safety systems ready for travel. This whole crew doesn't work well with each other, but I nearly screamed when I saw that old guy, holding a conversation with the forklift driver, his eyes off his monitoring task, but his damn hand still vigorously waving the driver to continue.
The Cat Ad60 is a mining truck, made to travel through tunnels with low ceilings. Thats why its a bit ugly - ground clearance is less important that low overall height.
I liked the SD70ACe in the background
I knew my employees weren't the only ones who could screw up backing an articulated truck out of the shop. but to be fair, my guys have screwed it up multiple times, so they win I guess.....
You'd think safety would be a priority in such a place. He should have made it very clear to the operator that he was climbing aboard. He just kinda swung his hand. AND FACE THE LADDER/STAIRCASE AS YOU CLIMB DOWN and use three points of contact at all times.
Paper on floor keeps tires making so much noise and marking the floors easier
its actually a safety requirement to have those railings/gate in place.
and guess what, its FOLD-ABLE! they forgot to fold it! Well someone didn't read the manuals.
You know when you get that new car & you're worried about that first scratch? A good salesman can charge extra for this and call it worry free scratch warranty.
Thats what happens when 2 people are trying to guide him at the same time.
I used to drive these trucks underground and these idiots should have known to put down the hand rails prior to operating?
ultimate apocalypse vehicle
That looks like one skitty driver.
Damn greenhorn you had one job to do you're fired
You would think on something that size there would be all sorts of surround vision cameras. A cheap nissan Murano has surround vision, why can't they do the same for these trucks?
+KarasCyborg Because CAT greedy ass don't care about is customers just the money they've been making shit since the 1920s & still
the cameras would get screwed up eventually. they could put some protection over them but would wreck still
+KarasCyborg Because in their line of work, they hardly ever need that visibility. The real issue is how expensive it would be to continually maintain these camera systems. Particularly on a dump bed with over 70 tons of material going through it, you'll be replacing cameras nearly constantly. It just isn't economic. A Nissan Murano doesn't haul 70 tons of mining material 24/7 and have 70 tons of rocks pounding on it's tailgate every load.
+Eyebrows Mahoney i totally agree with you on that one
+Eyebrows Mahoney I wonder if they can make them like the tank cameras or the bradley fighting machine cameras or make some sort of retractable cameras in an armored housing. Might be an innovative idea.
its a combination of 630G Scraper and Articulated Dump Truck...the front is looks like scraper 630G and back looks like Articulated Dump Truck hahaha...nice.
lol I know exactly what you mean. Pisses me off signallers signalling where I cant see their hand like behind my bucket.
I just sit there when i cant see the signals. Man they get stressed
Directors and managers at Terex, Komatsu and Liebherr are pissing themselves laughing!
thats a nice emd in the background
CAT(SCRATCHED)FEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better on the way out than on the way in.
I want to see how they got that train in there.
Break it you buy it.
"New Cat truck gets scratched!!" I laughed so hard lol...
im not saying that the visibility of this truck is not ideal, but what im trying to tell you is that you cant see shit other than the engine when you are driving this monster ...
To those who asked, here is how you move a locomotive. search for the vid: "Locomotives moved to Hanford's B Reactor"
scratch it, you bought it!
yeah its called a switch, when the guard is in place you can't start the truck lol
Its Minexpo 2012 in Vegas
They even have a locomotive in there.
agreed, this is one of the hardest videos ive ever had to watch.lol If I was there at the start of this video I would have moved way away from that whole scene. Then the one poor fucker gets up there in the pinch point while the janitor still has his hands on the steering wheel. lol I wouldnt go up there with him in the seat for fuck sake.
Amen to that, these guys don't have any experience at this it's clear.
Jesus, so the articulation has caused the tray to damage the handrail- I know, I'll go put my soft meaty flesh body exactly where it happened while the vehicle isn't the isolated
Well what the hell good is a dump truck that tears itself apart if you turn too sharply?
That safety door wasn't closed and secured. Operator error.
mikeallenbrown1 Ah.
there ya go engineers in action.
Great video - just shows you have check everything - twice! I have to ask, what were the loco's that you had in shot? Were they re-build/re-motored? Thanks for sharing!
Itll look a lot worse after a year underground!
They had the rail on there for display. Walking onto the machine, etc.
Right you got 2 guys giving opposite signals, Its like a stop light on crack, your not sure if you should stop or go!
to all that don't know nothing and go on about it this ad 60 was the very first one we built as a display model in Burnie Tasmania Australia look it up for the trade show both this and the 3000h loader it has now replaced the old ad55b truck and the hand rails can be folded down flat onto the body i should know i work there.
I could work there. all those beautiful machines 😍
the locomotive is huge
wast of time! Just watching it drive out of shop
That's not a truck.... It's a dumper!