cEDH; lets talk about Food Chain commanders like Prossh

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • Food chain is a fun green enchantment. It has been a staple for the competitive Prossh deck for some time now. However there are some more commanders that can utilize food chain. In this video we look at some cEDH viable commanders that play food chain and talk about what makes them different from each other.
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Komentáře • 70

  • @alestremeviktora5218
    @alestremeviktora5218 Před 6 lety +7

    Pro tip about Demonic Consultation: You also have to exile the top 6 of your deck before it actually starts searching for the named card
    So if you exile Food Chain [or whatever card is named] in your top 6 as the spell resolves, then it will exile your entire library

    • @mjacobs711
      @mjacobs711 Před 5 lety

      Tainted pact then?

    • @shaunmcisaac782
      @shaunmcisaac782 Před 5 lety

      It will also do this if the named card is the BOTTOM card of your library. So you have to consider that about 8 or 9 percent of the time your library's toast. Pretty high price to pay.

  • @papanurgle8393
    @papanurgle8393 Před 4 lety +4

    I played Prossh for years‚ and while I think he's still the classic choice for a food chain list‚ the First Sliver really outclassed him for an all in list.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety +1

      The first sliver is currently the only food chain option in my opinion. This video is quite old.

  • @BigChimpEnergy
    @BigChimpEnergy Před 6 lety +14

    You don't automatically lose the game in Tazri Food Chain if you exile all your allies. So long as you still have access to Pull From Eternity, Riftsweeper, Labman or Walking Ballista you can still win the game.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +6

      Unless you exile those two! =P but you are right. Also the chance that you would exile all the allies is rather low. But it can happen and I wanted to point out that demonic consultation is indeed a risky tutor. Tainted pact to.

    • @BigChimpEnergy
      @BigChimpEnergy Před 6 lety +1

      cEDH TV I like Tainted Pact more especially for non-blue decks. There's nothing worse than naming a card and exiling it in the initial top 6 and being forced to exile your whole deck. And the one thing I like about Prossh is the look on my opponent's face when I Gutteral Response / Pyroblast / Red Elemental Blast / Autumn's Veil / Vexing Shusher them on the turn that I'm going for the win lol

    • @kaysonrandy9361
      @kaysonrandy9361 Před 3 lety

      you prolly dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm then you can watch all the latest movies on instaflixxer. I've been watching with my brother for the last couple of weeks :)

    • @edgarbenson6527
      @edgarbenson6527 Před 3 lety

      @Kayson Randy definitely, have been watching on Instaflixxer for years myself :D

  • @jessehatler9889
    @jessehatler9889 Před 6 lety +1

    I play a variant that I came up with based off of shaper’s tazri list and was actually just thinking of trying some other commanders! Great video

  • @riltonjose5732
    @riltonjose5732 Před 5 lety +3

    I like soo much see that video make my brain work soo much
    Make understand more about that combo and that make one more possibilite in my tazri, food chain, onmi+tutor combo that is soo funny

  • @Cryonicity
    @Cryonicity Před 6 lety +1

    I found you from a Reddit article. This is great! Thanks for the insight

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      Welcome to the channel. I hope you find stuff here you like. Looks like you do.

  • @mjacobs711
    @mjacobs711 Před 5 lety +4

    General Tazri is my favorite of the lot. I've been able to get turn 2 wins with it at tournaments with lucky draws.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +2

      There is no such thing as lucky draws. A well planned consistent deck, that goes up vs an opponent that don't produce a equal matching opening.

    • @riltonjose5732
      @riltonjose5732 Před 5 lety

      I love play ally tribal, now I work hard to make tazri food chain but I like use onmincient+ tutor combo preator's grasp, force oponent deck out

  • @qwertyb18
    @qwertyb18 Před 5 lety +2

    I feel the best and most reliable commander would be General Tazari as it has access to both black and blue while also being able to specifically tutor the ally needed to win the game on the spot. Maelstrom Wanderer has my favorite (not good, just favorite) ability in magic so I might end up trying to make the best list possible using him.

  • @jasperbaas450
    @jasperbaas450 Před 6 lety +2

    Great video, you know that food chain maelstrom is close to my heart 😊
    That being said, I feel like you could have had a little bit more structure to the video. But just a rating at the end, but also for every category

    • @jasperbaas450
      @jasperbaas450 Před 6 lety

      I also feel that going Maelstrom without blue is a mistake. You got 5 blue sources.
      1 needs to get Renowned and 2 only work on creatures.
      That gives you 2 blue sources (BoP and Rattleclaw) to cast 15 blue pips. That's really asking for trouble in my eyes.
      An other option would be to be less reliant on blue. Which you can do by switching out Deceiver Exarch for Zealous Conscripts and Run Sylvan Caryatid.

    • @jasperbaas450
      @jasperbaas450 Před 6 lety

      When producing so much mana, stuff like Tooth and Nail can also be very good.
      Skipping blue also gave you no access to Foresight and Manipulate fate. Which are two of the cards that play super well in Tazri, as they Tutor 3 cards and replace themselves. I even have these two for you, I just never got around to giving them to you (will bring this Thursday) ;)

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      I think I have a lot of blue sources, should be more then 5. I have 8 cards that gives me blue or will fixe it. And then 2 more that only works for creatures. I was looking for your list at tapped out net. You can give it a link here if you wish. Great you have the cards on thursday?

  • @felixdecastro
    @felixdecastro Před 6 lety

    Great tips! A lot of new possibilities!!! Tks

  • @Maenk90
    @Maenk90 Před 6 lety +4

    Tainted pact is much safer than consultation

  • @brasslord4976
    @brasslord4976 Před 5 lety

    Cool ideas for food chain! Another comander I'm surprised is not in the video is Zacama. Once food chain with squee or eldrazi goes off, you can convert the infinite creature Mana into infinite Mana by summoning your general infinite times.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      Yes. But. I don't know. 9 mana. Sure that is the same as maelstrom wanderer that is on 8. But white instead of blue. I guess I could have mentioned it. But I am skeptic about the deck in general. It could work I guess. I just haven't put my mind into how to make it work. But sure there should be some one out there that plays a good Zacama food chain deck.

    • @brasslord4976
      @brasslord4976 Před 5 lety

      @@cedhtv While you don't have as much resiliency without blue, you gain consistency in finding the combo pieces you need. Eldameri's call, recruiter of the guard find needed creatures for the combo, enlightened/idealic Tudor find food chain, plus you have a plethora of enchantment recursion in white. I play mine with both a Kiki jiki and birthing pod shell so you can go for whatever combo you come across first, or lock the game with a recurring Fall of Thran. But he is a big dino boi that won't see the field for the first part of the game :D

    • @brasslord4976
      @brasslord4976 Před 5 lety +1

      @@cedhtv also worth mentioning that temur saber tooth already works as a combo piece for infinite Mana with Zacama.... Provided you have like 14 Mana hahahaha

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      I guess you could play the birthing pod karmic guide kiki jiki pod to.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      having 14 mana isn't really happening that often. But I will give that it will happen, sometimes. :)

  • @pinheiromtg1654
    @pinheiromtg1654 Před 6 lety +2

    Great video! I have Food Chain Tazri. I think you can't name Black Lotus with Demonic Consultation, 'cause it's not legal in EDH. You can simply name "Demonic Consultation"!😉

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      I say black lotus because I like the card. I don't think people mind. Other wise I would just say a card that is legal that I don't have.

    • @shaunmcisaac782
      @shaunmcisaac782 Před 5 lety

      You have to name a magic card, but not one that's format legal. Feel free to name "ordinary kitten", "camel," or "sorrow's path."

    • @seanmower3926
      @seanmower3926 Před 3 lety

      Storm crow. Sit back and watch the fear in their eyes

  • @puffin-onehandedgamer1164

    blood artist isn't the best drain creature, sine it says "target" Zulaport cutthroat says "each", meaning you kill all at once with him instead of blood artist.

  • @sirk215
    @sirk215 Před 4 lety

    Red and green have a lot of control against blue. Pyroblast, red elemental blast, autumns veil just to name some

  • @alexgrandgeorge3878
    @alexgrandgeorge3878 Před 5 lety +2

    RIP to all these commanders. Sliver has all the upsides now.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      Yeap. The only food chain boss currently.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +1

      @ALFREDO RIVERA-MOJER So when you have infinit creature mana from food chain. Cast the first sliver. cascad trigger into something.
      then eat the first sliver with food chain. recast it and cascad againe. from here you can cascade your entier deck of 4 costy cards.
      now you can win however you want.

  • @hlaalu4
    @hlaalu4 Před 6 lety

    Great Vid

  • @tobiasm234
    @tobiasm234 Před 4 lety

    Prossh is a cast trigger ;-)

  • @yapfloptheunquenched1452
    @yapfloptheunquenched1452 Před 6 lety +2

    Blood Artist does not work with Food Chain

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      That is correct, but it works with Prossh. He has a sac outlet.

    • @yapfloptheunquenched1452
      @yapfloptheunquenched1452 Před 6 lety +1

      @@cedhtv Ahh, didnt look at it that way, stop the infinite with like a bazillion tokens and kill them with BA

  • @eminog01
    @eminog01 Před 4 lety +1

    I don't think you can name black lotus, as it's a banned card and you have to name a card that is legal in the format.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety

      The part where we are naming a card is only to kill the deck. We could just name a card we have in our own hand. We ussally have a bit of fun here and name pokemon cards to from time to time.

    • @Agumon2509
      @Agumon2509 Před 4 lety

      I always name Blue Eyes White Dragon 😂

  • @devilproducoes5990
    @devilproducoes5990 Před 3 lety

    Hello mons plis make a new video of food chain archetype 2021 pli pli plis

  • @AndrewWoodford
    @AndrewWoodford Před 6 lety +2

    Tazri is a woman. A sexy sexy woman.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      It is? I didn't know that! It looks like a dude in the close up wall picture.

  • @marcelor1046
    @marcelor1046 Před 6 lety

    Grave, guru of spores goes infinity whit food chain?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      emmm. No. You can only CAST creature spells with the mana from food chain. Guru is an activated ability.

    • @marcelor1046
      @marcelor1046 Před 6 lety

      cEDH TV u are right, thanks u, i think that over all FC can be pretty useful in ghave.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      O yes. FC isen't a bad card in general.

  • @muleavenger9772
    @muleavenger9772 Před 6 lety

    Prossh must eat many kobolds to stay big and strong XD

    • @muleavenger9772
      @muleavenger9772 Před 6 lety +1

      What kinds of red/green hate bears would you like to see that would make Prossh have more control/stax effects? Great video by the way! :)

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      I am happy you asked. Currently we have a few like scavenging ooze and gorilla shaman. And wizard have started to make some functional red hate bears like harsh mentor. But its not enough. Or it is something I guess. I think we are going to get more variants to scavenging ooze and harsh mentor. If you can do the following destroy; creatures, artifacts and cards in graveyards in instant speed, then you can play control with consistent efficiently.

    • @shaunmcisaac782
      @shaunmcisaac782 Před 5 lety +1

      @@cedhtv There is also burning tree shaman. That is usually not sufficient, but it is a nice addition to Harsh Mentor in some cases.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      @@shaunmcisaac782 Forgot about that one. Don't know if I will include it however.

  • @douglashorchron4458
    @douglashorchron4458 Před 5 lety

    i dont see tazz

  • @yoitsgunattack
    @yoitsgunattack Před 6 lety +1

    im kind of shocked food chain didnt come up for your najeela deck for "infinite combo with her"

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      you can't use food chains mana to activate creatures abilities. Only to cast them. So food chain won't give you infinit combat steps. But I have been thinking if there is something different you can do.

    • @yoitsgunattack
      @yoitsgunattack Před 6 lety

      well ill be fucked... iv never actually read that last line of text because I just assumed over the years i knew the effect ._.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      I do that all the time.

  • @impendio
    @impendio Před 5 lety +3

    Just want to mention that General Tazri is a woman, a strong independent woman of infinite degenerate combos.

  • @usernameunidentified9874

    2:12
    You can't run Food Chain in a Tazri deck as he is a mono white creature.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      Haven't we already had this conversation? You are a troll.
      czcams.com/video/3R7Y7MlTGes/video.html

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      I would like to read your answer. Otherwise I can only see that you now understand the rules ...