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- San Francisco 49ers OT Trent Williams spoke on the QB battle in San Francisco and hinted that there would be no competition with Brock Purdy. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Greg Jennings, and Kevin Wildes debate if the 49ers should have a QB battle.
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Nick wright > skip
Skip Bayless is out of touch. He just needs to retire and do a Cowboys podcast because I respect his knowledge of "his" team. As for his opinions on the rest of the league, he's painful to listen to. I wasn't a huge fan of Shannon Sharpe either as his ego is a bit to big, but he was the only reason that show was tolerable last season. I don't care who they try to put with Skip, I have other more entertaining shows to watch.
Why plug this horrible podcast
CJ Stroud better than Brock Purdy sorry that's facts
Fire Kyle when we don't win Superbowl and they sign Bosa and handicap our franchise back to the bottom we heading
What's crazy is two QBs taken Top 3 in their respective draft classes are trying to unseat a QB taken dead last overall in his draft class.
Underdogs on Top now !!!
Which is crazy like I get everything Brock has done. But you can’t tell me he’s more physically, gifted than Trey or Sam they should be blowing him out of the water.
@@chrismarshall1723 who cares; wins matter
@@louisloother301something which the niners won't get with Purdy at QB this year. Seattle wins that DIV
@@waldy1386he already proved he’s a winner.
Brock Purdy stats in his 8 starts last year:
14 TD, 2 INT, 67.4 Completion %, 115.9 Passer Rating, 7-1 Record (was injured the only game he lost)
Yeah, I’m SHOCKED he’s the starter.
Frfr nicks a clown.
I’m a lifetime 49ers guy , I never felt lance was my go to qb, Brock came out of nowhere and really brought life to the team and the fans
Trey Lance was a project quarterback anyways. He’s not the guy at all. Can’t even stay healthy enough to see him play
Thank you, I have been saying this to all my Trey Lance fan friends. Trey hasn't really felt like my QB lol probably because he hasn't really played yet.. but still. Brock Purdy has been my #1 QB since his first game as a starter against Tom Brady. Heck might as well add his game with the Dolphins too.
"brought life to the team and the fans", that's an emotional fallacy. A fallacy is an argument that sounds convincing but has no logical value. It's like saying "Jimmy G shouid be the QB, he gets the girls going with that jawline!".
The 49ers are in it to win it, if you accidentally hit on a 7th round draft pick you can’t punish him because of someone you took in the first round. You play who gives you the best chance to win and the way Purdy was playing last year he proved he is a winner. Until you see he no longer has that winning in him he is the starter no question.
Very dumb. I do not want to lose the first 3 games trying to replicate last years success. It could mean homefield advantage
@@user-en3ps9yb7n Very dumb is going back to proven flop Trey Lance.
@@marcusaurelius5149exactly he’s a bust
Sorry bud that’s how it works unless the player is way better like Wilson was over the web they had just paid that extension in Seattle
@@user-en3ps9yb7n Very dumb to go to a guy who has not performed on the field? Couldn't even beat the Cardinals, couldn't beat the Bears and was losing to Seattle (a team the 49ers beat 3 times thanks to Purdy). You're not smart enough to make decisions, stop watching football...you can't keep up.
Imagine the Niners starting Trey Lance after what Brock Purdy did last year...that would be the perfect way to lose your locker room and your season.
You'd have to be SURE he's the better option otherwise the moment things start going south..the whole franchise can sink
The only way it wouldn't crumble is if Lance was incredible and the niners win game after game after game.
I agree with you that Brock should start after what he did last season, but Trey, or Sam, should be able to shorten his leash
@@WarrenF19 Sam Darnold is complete garbage and is honestly pretty lucky to even have an opportunity to be a back up with his performance through this career. Man had just as many turnovers as TDs in college and has the same in the NFL, only he’s complete trash as far as winning games goes.
@@WarrenF19I really was never impressed by Sam or trey in college I mean let’s be honest no body saw trey lance in college he played at ndsu and then his draft year was
I bud season and he didn’t today nothing but one scrimmage against very low competition so was never impressed by him and Sam was okay but not spectacular at usc, Purdy has been a stud since he stepped foot on Iowa state campus was one of the top college football qbs in the country was honestly a steal getting him last, he should’ve been around a 4-5th round pick
Purdy had a great college career. Lots of big tough games which prepared him for the NFL better than Lance
Yup, Purdy started 4 straight seasons and Trey started 1. The reps aren’t even close.
It sucks for Trey Lance but Brock Purdy stepped up at the most important time and proved he's exactly what the team needs, plus he has the support of the locker room. No-brainer to start him
It wasn't hard, remember, they won a playoff game with only six passes from Jimmy. The team is stacked, and in training camp, they aren't saying Brock looks better. He has the most interceptions and dropped interceptions.
Lance not getting a fair chance
@@kapitalmurdashewrote7693 Explain in detail how Lance isn't getting a fair chance.
The treysexuals chiming in 😂
@@dh1382they are precisely saying he looks better
Nick conveniently didn’t mention Josh Rosen, the best example of a team giving up on a young QB super early, in his list of QB busts at the beginning
Conveniently?
How many games did Josh Rosen start?
Rosen started 16 games before he lost out on a chance to be a starter
That’s not a very good example my man
He got 14 starts in Arizona. Further proving Nick’s point.
It was hilarious how Brou correctly pointed out that Nick’s argument is a prime example of the sunk cost fallacy, and Nick’s response was just “nuh uh, cuz I said.” Never change Nick
"Never change Nick" 😂😂😂
@@alterego5550q1a
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This is not an example of the sunk cost fallacy
Costs that have already occurred and cannot be recovered. Sounds like Trey to me. The picks aren’t coming back. It’s over , Move on from Trey and don’t look back.
@@323johnnybravo nick’s argument is that they don’t know that moving on is more beneficial. He’s started 3 games. If he started more games and was clearly bad, then the sunk cost fallacy would be a good way to describe the situation.
Brou's sunk cost fallacy point was brilliant
Anytime you use someone else's argument against them, effectively... it's tasty.
Nah because it didn’t fit the argument here. Only if Trey has ALREADY PROVEN to be bad. But for 3.5 games? You cannot make an evaluation off that small sample size.
Perhaps the coaching staff knows something we don’t?
@@bkb04gTrey was given everything & all starter reps. Purdy only had like 2 - 3 starter reps. One made the most of it, the other.... not so much. Get over it, Purdy earned his respect & spot among the starters. Common sense not so common. 🙄
Only if you don't know what sunk cost fallacy is. Let me dumb it down.
You brought an expensive car and you drove it once, but you don't know if you like it or not. You keep it because you spent a lot of money and don't want to lose money.
You brought an expensive car and you hate it with a passion. You know you don't want it, but you keep it because you'd lose money if you sell it.
There's a chance in scenario A, you actually like the car and may be the best car you ever had; whereas scenario B you know you do not like it and keep it. Distinct difference.
But the truth is KS will never commit to any QB no matter what they do to prove themselves, even if he became Superbowl MVP
It seems like things just didn’t work out for Trey Lance there. He should get an opportunity somewhere else.
I’ve been saying maybe he’s overrated! They see him in practice, in the meeting rooms, and know stories off the field. Maybe….he isn’t that good
@@tjones2101Very possible
@@tjones2101 To be fare the Niners reached for him. He should have never been drafted that high to begin with. What makes this such a big deal is the draft capital the Niners gave up to get him.
@@tjones2101I don’t really think that’s fair due to him being injured
@@byronsmith3152and this is where I feel the team don't know what they're doing after Pro day and two private workouts and still no one realize that it took longer than the window that they had 4 Super Bowl contention don't trade up for him let him fall and then with Brock everybody's stepping up he's special this kid is it he's the next thing coming why why do you let your franchise quarterback fall to the last draft that wasn't a strategy this is not about who's better I'm looking I'm looking at how they're treating the situation it's tiny Brock get Rock and Sam darnold has to go in there and start seeing ghosts again have you really supported Trey if he has to go in there and do his job I'll have you been making him feel like he's not good enough and he's not going to be around this is not good look unless they are communicating with this kid on a daily basis and both sides know where they stand with each other
Nick will take a side and say that Lance is required to play, but the offense of the 49ers, the players, coaching staff of one of the best in the league is behind Brock Purdy. Plenty of reason to believe in the guy if everyone else around him wants him to be the starter. Dude earned the starting job, plain and simple. No one is given anything. Don’t even think Lance is a bust, but you have to do right by the guys that have succeeded, and he could find a starting opportunity, just not in San Fran by the looks of it.
That's what I'm sayin'.
They also backed jimmy too🤣secretly both aiyuk and Deebo would rather have lance the only two that like purdy is cmc and kittle because their targets only come in dump offs and quick slants. Purdy is close to averaging a pick 6 every other practice and enough picks and dropped picks to be over 1 a practice he is worse than jimmy with protecting the ball
Why do we give Kyle flowers he hasn’t earned. Does he have success with the 49ers yes do we say they have the most stacked rosters yes. Also to call plays that lead to 4 qb injuries and not take any heat is crazy. Both injuries in the playoff were a TE blocking an elite pass rusher
I mean brock could be a bust... in a weird way... if he doesn't play well coming back off a pretty serious injury... if he just has a slightly less amount of zip on the ball it could cause issues... bust not in draft pick but in built up hype and prospect...
You're missing the point of they gave up 3 first round picks to select lance they should give him some game run just to see if he's bad or not and if he's bad make him a back up and accept the L on selecting him or if he's pretty good and you could maybe squeeze a needy team out of a pick or two.
Pretty sure Nick Wright is not better than Kyle at evaluating QBs. Not everyone can just join a great team and excel right off the bat. Purdy has the pose to play well under pressure.
Not to mention nick is lying per usual. Trey was clealry not playing well last preseason but they were willing to go through the growing pains. They liked Brock last year but he was the last pick. They traded Nate sudfeld because of how well Brock was playing
@@Joes35 I think the point is that if Kyle could evaluate QBs from practice, he would have had Brock ahead of Jimmy & Trey. Nick didn't bring this up, but Kyle watched Brady's film in 2019 and thought he was washed when Brady called up then WR coach Wes Welker to join the 9ers. They didn't trade Sudfeld. They just thought he'd make it to their practice squad because he's a veteran. Same reason why they cut vets like Dontae, Janoris, & Snead and then elevate them on game days while inactivating guys like Ambry, TDP, Gray.
Uhhh kyle has no evidence of being able to evaluate qbs
Was Kyle a good QB evaluator when he refused to scout Mahomes or Watson?
@@CJStew06 lol the whole nfl except saints and chiefs misevaluated Mahomes. Same with Watson
If Trey Lance loses confidence because he's the backup, then he's not that guy.
Purdy >>>
THIS
The niners front office, coaching staff, the players “his teammates” and the fans are all on the same page about Brock Purdy after last season. Seems like its just the media that aren’t….typical!!
Honestly, I love that the niners are willing to bench the guy they gave up 3 first round picks for, to start a seventh round pick. It shows me that Kyle has the freedom to field the team he wants and that ownership just wants to win.
💯
The difference between Snyder and York.
and lose every time hahaha
People love saying 3 1st round draft picks because it sounds dramatically worse but it's really just 2
Exactly is says they are willing to put the best talent on the field regardless of salary or draft picks
I love when people say "its never happened" like that means it can never happen. Theres always a first for everything and you may be witnessing it
Purdy was tough, did his job as needed, was confident, and played his tail off. He should start.
Nick seems to not realize none of those teams were competing for anything when they played their guys. SF is win now fool
you wanna come swim in my pool bro I have a water slide
Read my mind 💯Lance is only 23 anyways still time
That doesn’t mean they can’t let him compete in practice. Losing teams would guarantee him starting, they don’t have to do that. Just give him a fair shot this offseason
Tell me what Brock purdy did for San Francisco that Jimmy g didn't....
@@karlpanton1055 he’s gonna have all preseason to start and play. If Purdy touches the field, it will only be in the rehearsal game for a couple series at most
Anyone else notice how ALL of Nick’s arguments are in favour of anything that would make any given team worse (except the Chiefs). Also, the greater potential any given team has to beating the Chiefs, the more loudly he doth protest.
It’s refreshing how Kevin’s Wilde’s faith in his Chiefs doesn’t require him attempting to undermine all other challengers.
I've noticed that but He's got a point backed by facts on this one.
@@Az-dc4nu No he doesn't.
Yeah it would be more entertaining if he just hated out loud on teams that are threats to the Chiefs instead of doing his seasonal habit of moving the goalpost every month.
-although on this topic it is fair to say that all QB's should be given a chance given how young they are
@@user-iq7ry6hm8f Trey Lance had his chance. So did Jimmy G.
@@marcusaurelius5149he really didn’t nick made a good point
When did Brady compete against Bledsoe? Even after Bledsoe was promised to have his starting job when he recovered from his injury! Now we have a no doubt GOAT! AND when was Brady drafted? So Nick's theory would've prevented a GOAT because what if Bledsoe would've won the job in training camp? Would the Patriots have done what they did? AND Brady had players vouch for him over Bledsoe too. Nick is becoming the new Skip. History means nothing to him
Nick is arguing this because Trey is black and Brock is white. I guarantee you the other way he would be doing QB reveal comparisons stacking up purdys(treys) stats over that stretch with Joe Burrow or something. Chris is a real one. Just calls it as it is
The same thing happened to Alex Smith. He was on pace for a career year, gets a concussion, and lost his job to Kaep. Smith had just signed a 3 year deal that year and was traded the following year. This is the NFL and if the next man up plays well....
@@camcunningham9443 thank you for pointing this out, that's exactly the reason.
@@byronsmith3152yup. This is football. It's tough. A bird in the hand is always worth two in the bush. The simple fact is, you KNOW you can win with one guy, and you don't even know if the other guy has the stuff. If you give Trey a chance and he doesn't work, you throw away your season. When your roster and coaching staff is this good, you can't afford to waste seasons. Football is an ephemeral sport. You can go from worst to first one year, and you can go from first to worst in the next. You used your picks to pick a quarterback, and while it might not have been the guy you spent all the capital on, you found a guy. The objective was to find a guy who can start and you did.
I've been ride or die for Trey Lance ever since we picked him; that is, until I saw purdy. Purdy did everything right, made fewer mistakes than Jimmy, gave us just enough mobility to be dangerous, AND made just enough extra plays to win tight games. I mean, c'mon, a ROOKIE got you to the NFC championship! A ROOKIE! How many times has that happened PERIOD? He's the closest a rookie QB has come to a super bowl maybe ever. I think Trey is probably a real good kid, and it's nothing against him. But people need to stop. Brock Purdy is everything we were looking for and we magically found him at the end of the rainbow.
Why aren't any of realizing your argument is flawed? In every scenario you're describing, it's a veteran being replaced by a young player. I agree that there should have been a mild competition. They didn't even bring Trey in as #2, basically giving Darnold the upper hand from the start. That alone is revealing.
noo becuase last year they just gave the team to trey lance . he didt have to earn QB1 last year
Nick is crazy. He talked non stop about how Lance needed time to develop because he played so little in college. Well, obviously his coaches think he needs longer, but you want to put him in as a starter over a guy that the players and coaches clearly believe gives them a better chance to win.
Sharing practice time with 3 other qbs isn't developing, let alone Kyle's ""coaching""
Dude is a bust most likely. I am not sure why struggle with this possibility. Trance got paid and that is all they owe him. Just bad tv
"I don't think people necessarily love Brock Purdy" Nick is so bad with his takes. What does he know what goes through other people's minds? Can he read people's minds? Has he talked to all the 49ers fans? And his whiney voice just makes me cringe. I wish Fox would just replace him.
Lol 😂 Brous last quote summarizes how I feel about this 13:13
The 49ers don’t want to develop a qb, they want a ready made one.
A team in win now mode drafting Lance made no sense
Trey isn't made, and he never will be. He's a draft bust.
@@hiphopotamus69 With Jimmy G coming off another injury, it made sense. Trading up to get Lance is what made zero sense.
So Nick is saying they should compete for the starting job in Pre-Season evaluated based on their performance in Pre Season
Yet simultaneously saying you cannot evaluate talent during Pre Season only during the Regular Season
7:46 The 49ers literally have taken this stance. Kyle and John said Brock is 'the leader in the club house' and will get 1st team reps due to his performance last year. This is why if you want actual takes and news for your teams support your beat writers.
I’ve never seen a player taken so high with so much given up for him . To not even be given a chance. That’s wild 😂😂
I don’t mind it’s entertaining cause they’ll never win a sb with purdy id they choose him
@@younghater707and kyle will try to bring in that choke artist kirk cousins! Smh
@@younghater707if they won't win with Purdy they definitely won't win with Lance.
Brock looked better in Miami than Trey ever looked period. Maybe he can't keep it up. If so Trey will get his shot.
But a QB who started one season for a small school who has never looked great in the NFL should not automatically get to start over a dude who looked great for 7 games just because he was drafted high.
@@coreyburke3493 Brock was the product of cmac and the defense! Dude struggled against Dallas and got clocked against Philly! Teams have game film on him now! He is Jimmy with mobility! Did those 7 games win us a sb? I have never seen a fanbase worship participation trophies!
@@rldebro ok so explain why Lance got outplayed by Justin Fields after having a full year to learn the system and having a FAR more talented team than fields?
You can say any excuse you wish. But the facts are Brock put up numbers that a top 5 QB puts up. That deserves a chance to see if he can do it again.
And there's nothing Trey could possibly show anyone in the preseason that's more impressive than what Brock did in real games.
Brock deserves to get a shot to prove it wasn't a fluke.
Trey deserves a chance if Brock shows he can't.
The only travesty would be if Brock sucks or gets hurt again and they gave Darnald the start over Lance.
Trey has started 4 games and played in a few more. He's been hurt twice. Unfortunately that may cost him his shot in SF I'm sure if Brock balls out Trey will get a shot somewhere else and he deserves that
Trey should be QB1.
um...Nick.....thats EXACTLY how they are positioning it. I mean almost word for word. No idea why you think otherwise. I'd pay more attention to Shanahan and Lynch and less to national media. They just aren't going to trade him. They needed 5 QBs last year.
Additionally, he's looked good in camp. Let's see what happens in preseason.
That's the difference, right at the end. The difference between Lance and all those other busts is that the 49ers are good and are in win-now mode. The Leaf Chargers, JaMarcus Raiders, Couch Browns, etc. were horrible teams that earned those top 3 overall picks and had time to trot out their pick to fully evaluate him. The 49ers, as a legitimate Super Bowl contender, do not have that luxury. They need to play whoever is the best guy right now.
Then why did you choose a total project in Trey Lance over Justin Fields or Mac Jones in the 1st place? Neither Jones or Fields have lit the world on fire but from no angle does the Lance pick even make sense. Fields had just as much upside if not more and was a far safer pick and Jones was more NFL ready.
@truthbearer7891 I don't disagree. All I would say is that they probably thought Lance was the best of the three and that they could take time developing for a year with Jimmy G holding down the fort. That was still their intention when Lance got hurt, but then Jimmy (of course) got hurt and Brock came in and seized the role, playing better than Jimmy ever did. The point is that now they are in win-now mode more than ever (as their vets are getting older) and they can't waste games on a guy that might be good, but hasn't had the opportunity to prove it, when they have a guy that has proven he's good. Those other teams that Nick is talking about were never in this position. They should have tried to trade Lance before the draft to a team like Vegas or Tennessee (or, if they were comfortable trading him within the conference, Tampa, New Orleans, Atlanta or Washington).
@ 8:29 ...Lynch has literally said this exact thing more than once. As much as I like N.Wright this sometimes happens when national coverage tries to do deep dives as if they cover teams as close as local coverage.
Yeah, he can say that, but the actions say otherwise. If they make Trey QB 3, Lance should as for a trade.
Since pre season last year, I said Brock should at least be QB2. Jimmy would be QB1 due to experience, but Brock outplayed Lance in my opinion. There was a reason they brought Jimmy back! People don't seem to understand that. They didn't like Lance and couldn't see themselves taking a risk on Brock when they were expected to be a top playoff team. They actually took a risk, hoping Lance would be that guy by starting him, and that risk didn't pay off. Lance also lost to the worst team last year. That alone should have killed any controversy. 😂
But but but monsooooon! Okay but the other team still pulled a win.. 🤔
Purdy is heavily underrated, dude balled out when he played.
I want to admire Nick. If his ability to reason could ever approach his talent for rhetoric, he'd be exceptional. As it stands, he's always right on the verge of a coherent thought.
Exactly right. He’s also kind of an obnoxious, arrogant, despicable human being on top of his intellectual limitations
this is an exceptional burn
Trey Lance needs to ask for a trade,
I don't quite understand what you mean this is unprecedented, didn't this same thing happen to Alex Smith who was the 49rs quarterback and they'd taken him high in the draft they invested money in him and then Colin Kaepernick got a hot hand and then they chose to stay with him at quarterback?
Smith played more than one season and got replaced after he was hurt, Nick is saying Lance only played 4 games before being dropped.
Kirk Cousins over RG3 after his injury… not the same but a similar situation. Both Kyle Shanahan run offenses.
Who would’ve thought Kyle shanahan knew more about evaluating QBs then Nick wright
As a Vikings fan and ndsu alumni I am hoping Lance makes his way home and plays in Minnesota
Why? He's never looked more than meh in the NFL lol.
Despite being very intelligent and eloquent Nicks arguments are often very emotionally driven. I’m surprised someone doesn’t call it out a bit more. Entertaining though
Brock Purdy, what a gem as a Man and QB for our team. Fine humble man and role model..Feel lucky Niner fans
It's funny that Nick wrong thinks just because Lance was a first round pick means he deserves a chance even though purdy already won the job.
na he’s talking bout how lance never had a developing chance to be his potential, barley had experience from college cause he played so well and was drafted early and covid hit. purdys good but I promise you he’s like jimmy g and we gonna have walls we can’t get over cause of how limited purdy is. lances ceiling is way higher
@@Victor-fh1zu If that were true the coaching staff would've seen it in the last three years. Honestly think if his ceiling was higher that they wouldn't be giving him a real shot. They know exactly who he is and they understood that they made a mistake. Their first clue should've been when the dude sat out during Covid season
@@antonioforlife nick wright isn’t the only person whose said that kyle don’t know how to evaluate or develop quarterbacks. you can’t determine a guys potential from practice and that’s all they’ve seen, lances regular season game stats are right in the mid category so why not see what we got under the hood with development time that he’s never truly had especially since he’d be with cmc and kittle for the first time in his career. If lance goes elsewhere and blooms i’d be excruciatingly mad If I were you, and I know you can agree. we don’t have enough of a portfolio to judge lance, good or bad. not to mention we don’t know if purdy is fully healthy as many have said. seems like a win win if we see lance one more time with those two key additions and let purdy heal before he comes back weeks into the season
@@Victor-fh1zu That's what the preseason is for he can get some game time experience there. But If he's really the style that they think he is then he would be showing it in practice. There's obviously something missing in him for them not to even have him in the competition. Or their bold face lying and waiting to see if this purdy thing flops. I thought it was a huge reach for them to even draft Trey Lance a q.v. with very little experience and wasn't willing to play on the Covid year. Honestly he is the same as Justin Fields not that good
So, wait. If Brocky Purdy fails with the same team, same coach, and a better roster, that proves that Jimmy G.'s success with the 49ers was fraudulent? Wouldn't that point toward the opposite being true?
Jimmy g is throwing all the interceptions at raiders camp.
Purdy already surpassed anything that Jimmy g did in his playoff career... In only the first playoff game of his.
49ers win cause Kyle Shannahan is the 2nd best coach to ever live after Andy Reid. Only Reid inflates QB stats more than Shannahan
I don't care about Garoppolo or people's opinions on him. But the idea that "Jimmy G. fans" want Purdy to be good because, if he fails, it makes Jimmy look bad literally makes ZERO sense.
@@erikpuka2627how about we wait for him to at least lead 1 SB winning team before putting him up with the greats. He is a great head coach but he isn't in the league of the Parcells, Belicheck and Reed.
That’s the whole issue with the 49ers. They got a Superbowl team now. Don’t have time to wait and see
Where is their SB O-line....seem like that is still being ignored. Have to learn the hard way.😅
By that logic Sam should be starting over Brock since no one has time to wait for him to fully heal 😂😂
"That's not uncommon"
Immediately names incredibly uncommon players
"That's the way the Crumbl Cookie crumbles." 😆👌
A follow up question would be what makes him deserve a competition for the job? Nothing he shown says he's a number 1 qb other than them fing up with drafting him in the first if he was Manziel I'm sure people would have a different opinion and that would be the right opinion to have.
Something these guys didnt mention but im thinking as a Niner fan and the team probably is as well is that the way things have gone with Niner QB injuries, Lance has a very high likelyhood of playing even if they start the season with him as QB3. I dont have exact numbers with me but since Shanahan came in in 2017, we have had 3 or maybe 4 seasons where we had to play 3+ different QBs due to injury. Last year we played FOUR QBs. 2 years before that we played 3 QBs. If history repeats itself (which i hope to God it wont) Lance will have a few chances to play this season.
@weegeemike you are correct. Even if Lance is the backup there is a better than 50% chance he'll play this season. One of the reasons is the O line has some holes in it. Last year they had McGlinchey who was not that great. I heard the player who replaced him isn't that great either. I would say besides QB that OL is the other concern for the Niners. Since the QB depends on the OL for protection, they go hand in hand.
Niners should play Trey in pre season and trade him, if they're 100% committed to Brock.
Pretty much everyone will not play their starters in the preseason.
That’s Not what they’re saying Nick, they’re saying Brock did so well last season and is still improving it’s hard not to give him the opportunity to continue to be the starter!!!
I will never understand the love the media has for Trey Lance and Justin Fields. So crazy.
Maybe fields but not trey
Absolutely! 👌👌👌
Sounds about white
Yet you understand it for Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert got it
What else do they have in common? 😉
I hope to one day see a Purdy vs Mahomes super bowl
So purdy can get completely mopped by a qb whos actually good?
Why because you're a Chiefs fan?
@daveg2938 cardinals fan but rooting for the hometown hero of course
Lol, just walked out and took out garbage while Nick and Brou are arguing and people are thinking I'm arguing with someone😂😂😂😂😂
Where Trey and Brock were drafted is irrelevant. Which QB gives you the best opportunity to win is the only thing that matters. Right now it appears Brock gives the 49ers the best chance to win. End of debate. Nick keeps screaming "Give him a chance." Trey is in his third training camp. If he hasn't convinced Shanahan he should be the starter by now, he never will.
Another point is in George Kittles career, He has had at least 3 starting qbs in every year but one (when they went to the super bowl). People say the coach doesnt like Lance. Not true. The niners are going into this year with three qbs who may be able to win a playoff game (or at least thats the plan) Its not about whats best for either of the other qbs, they are on the team under contract. And hopefully they learned a lesson from what Purdy did. Work hard and be ready because at some point during the season you will get a chance. What you do with it is up to you. So dont blame the coach, gm, or the easter bunny. It is on you to be ready just like Purdy was.
Last preseason Lance did not impress, other than one long pass for a TD. When he started, he lost to a poor Chicago team. Yes, it was raining, but the other young QB had to play in the same weather as he did. He really needs to show something this preseason. Last year Purdy proved himself in preseason and won the third string spot. He also proved himself during the season. Nick reminds me of the guy that will cut off his nose to spite his face.
Bro broke his ankle in half and he isn't even 24 got drafted at 21 years old give him a break n time
Purdy never faced a formidable defense. Seattle is the best team he faced and they were suspect across the roster and were lucky to get in. It’s easy to look ok when you have HOFs all around you and in a run heavy defense. Purdy is a bottom 3 qb until he proves he can actually play after teams have tape and he faces actually good defenses.
Absolutely! 👏👏👏
9ere saved cap space by keeping Purdy sudfield had a better pre season
@@blackichan3866Never faced a formidable defense? They played the cowboys in the play offs and won. The cowboys had a top 5 defense. You purdy haters just say anything.
Yo brou was kinda cooking this segment not gonna lie "put ya big boy pants on" XD
The tradition is to maximise the chances for 1st round picks. Its always about not admitting a draft mistake. Lance is good but Purdy played great. Purdy deserves to start and management deserves all the credit for simply doing what your eyes and numbers tell you to do.
Lance is a bust. Its not unique. Tebow, Rosen, RG3, Winston.... The list is endless. Do I think Purdy is elite? No. I think he is on the Kirk Cousins level which is enough to win a SB with all those weapons. As loaded teams have a small window - you go with what wins NOW. That's the bottom line.
Not sure you can call him a “bust” yet. There will be some team I’m sure that will want to trade for him at some point and then that determination can be made.
You can't label someone a bust with only a few game appearances.
I wouldnt get rid of trey. If Brock gets hurt, and just look at last season, he’ll be right up & next to start.
The longer you keep him the lower his already low trade value goes , you’re not winning with lance so why not trade him and sign a veteran QB
If a team makes an offer they would probably entertain it. But they probably won’t actively look to trade him. At least until the season is over.
I find it interesting that most fans on here don't know or understand that drafting in the first round, especially the QB position, has always been a huge gamble. The NFL is a completely different game than college. You must have a great football IQ, good instincts, footwork, vision, organization, work ethic. Bombing the ball isn't a priority, even though many Trey Lance fans think it is. These people do not know anything.
Anyone who wants to truly know what's going on, I'd invite you to look up David Lombardi who has been one of the more trusting writers following the Niners. Lance has improved tremendously. But he says that the QB position is an investment. Lance is staying because it makes no sense to let him go
Totally agree on it making no sense to let him go. We’ve seen time and time again they have issues with their QB’s being able to stay healthy and purdy is coming off of an injury now so why let him go when you might need him part of the way through the season if purdy goes down again. It’s best to play it safe and just keep him for now. It’s not like they’d be able to get much for him if they tried to trade him anyways. If they were gonna get like a first round pick out of it for next years draft then yea maybe but that isn’t the case
Moments like this I point to when Russell’s Wilson beat out,as a 3rd round rookie, Matt Flynn after he just got a big contract from the Seahawks. At that point people should know no job is safe. The Cardinals literally trade thier 1st round QB a year prior to pick Kyler Murray
This is an example Nick would never bring up because the black guy usurped the right way. He’d be best man won to the bank. He’d be right, but it shows how dubious his analysis can be. Brou is the real one on this show
EXACTLY. And y'know what, if you redid this draft now, Brock Purdy is going probably at the top of the first round. He was so good that scouts and executives had to reevaluate their methods this year to make sure they didn't miss out on a guy like Brock
There was not near the same level of investment in Matt Flynn vs Trey Lance and Russell Wilson went on to tie Peyton Manning's rookie TD record and was ironically an LOB choke away from having a chance to be 1st rookie QB to start a Super Bowl.
@@truthbearer7891They gave that man a contact for 3 years with the expectation he’ll start. My point is simply nothing is promised from getting pick up in free agency or the draft. Another example Kenny Golladay signed a 72mill contract and basically never seen the field because he was good enough to start. Also how many times have we seen players lose their job because they got injured and the guy behind them did well and never looked back. He has to prove his head and shoulders above Prudy to get the job back because what has Trey Lance shown thattell you he should start over Prudy outside of he was drafted earlier in his Draft?
@@trevonricks5975 you are speaking facts my friend. Nothing but facts
Just absolutely insane that a SB team drafted the most raw prospect in a decade and expected him to be good right away
NFL Preseason: we’ve got nothing to say, but we’re yelling anyway.
NFL Preseason: We will only see rookies and backups.
Nick think he knows everything you would think he’s won 10 super bowls and 10
MVPs 😂
Trey just better stay ready. This is the NFL. Chances are great that he'll get a chance this year.
The 49ers go through QBs like people change underwear. They need to keep 4 on the roster.
I am NOT a Trey Lance fan but Nick makes some good points. Kinda crazy move by the Niners. Regardless they can do whatever they want and thinking best in regard to winning.
The reason this is different is that Super Bowl caliber teams never have a draft pick that high. Those teams have time to let the 1B develop. The 49ers don't have that time, they're in win now mode, they have arguably the best roster in the league.
I don't understand why a franchise would pick a guy who started one year in college
what's crazy is Nick is upset about trey Lance's lost opportunities but there are millions of generational talents that get taken out of high school and college that never even gets a chance in the pros period because they missed less than an opportunity. trey had plenty of chances and there is a reason the team isn't high on him.
He also had a good season in a very easy college division and he knew it too--it was a fluke--that's why he declared so early.
Plenty of chances? Nah
@@AtribecalledsuccessTrey was given everything without competing for the Starter job. Purdy only had 2 - 3 starter reps. Purdy earned his right as QB1. No excuses as #3 overall.
@@ghostx4747 it’s still a waste of a trade to move up in the draft and take him if your gonna stash him behind darnold
@Atribecalledsuccess Well, that's Trey's fault. Now Trey has to earn it. Like Brock, just wait for your opportunity & show up like he did or better. It's common sense.
What he did last year is played with talent on both sides of the ball.
If you can't wow the team in practice, it's a fool's errand to assume he'll somehow wow in actual games.
This has never happened in history... gives examples of it happening.-Nick Wright
The Niners love Trey, but the days of handing someone a job without earning it are gone. The 49ers will allow him a little longer to develop further. He's grown a lot in this off-season. Had Trey shown to be better than Purdy he would be starting. It's not that he can't play it's that someone is better right now than he is, but that does not mean that Trey can't raise his level of play.
Trey Lance didn’t even play his last year of college basically and even before then I wasn’t sure bout the hype
Because fans think one great year means they are HOF players. He should have never been drafted has high as he was and the niners should have NEVER made the trade they did.
“That’s not _that_ unusual.”
“It’s _pretty_ unusual.”
Trey Lance has gotten a chance every practice.
Seems crazy to me that they’re not even having a QB competition. If Brock is really that great he should win the competition. If he doesn’t then maybe he’s not that great.
Purdy went 7-0 and was top 10 QB last year. There’s no competition. Purdy is him. Purdy hasn’t done anything to not get the starting job.
@@08C6PaceCarthank you. why stunt his development just so Trey lance can get some snaps he doesn’t deserve over BP?
He won the competition already.
@@angelusgnz5784 if BP goes down during the season, then fine, get Lance in there or Darnold and let’s see what we have. But until then, it’s Purdys job.
That's EXACTLY the position Nick. The 49ers love Trey, only the national media with a narrative believe Darnold is the #2 right now. The 49ers are still very high on Lance, BUT Purdy was the BEST qb, better than your boy Mahomes Nick, over a 6 game period. How do you start potential over even limited proof?
Listen, there are reasons they picked Lance which I won't go into but he wasn't their first choice. Second, the reason they went with Lance at the beginning of the season was because they made a huge investment in Lance, Jimmy couldn't stay healthy so he was out initially (they didn't even give him the playbook until the season started). Lance got hurt, unfortunately for best for the niners season. Bottom line is he had 1 year at small d1 school, in the preseason and his starts can barely complete 50% of his passes. In practice he shows nothing, has one of the worst arm mechanics I've seen.
First off ur guessing they didnt want trey, when the evidence actually point to they wanted trey and its just speculation they wanted mac jones, second they moved off jimmy because they knew he wasnt good enough to get it done not just because of the injuries, third he fixed his mechanics over the offseason and saying hes shown nothing is a complete falacy he looks much better im not arguing he should start over brock because im very much of the opinion that brock will be hurt at some point this year and trey will get his chance anyway
@@DavidMartinez-ft4xj To say Jimmy was good enough would ignore the facts and stats. His win percentage with us was ridiculous and literally saved the season last year. He might not have been worth the 27 million per, but that is Lynch making another bad contract. Don't get me started on Lynch. And Lance has not fixed his mechanics. I've seen the footage and it is still the same and it is bad. He might have fixed some footwork. His arm is strong but can't hit a target and from what I heard doesn't understand the reads.
@@selftotjits that doesnt make it a fact, apparently kyle shannahan believes he could win a bunch of games with sam dranold who hasnt been any good i think that speaks more to the team then the qb thats why qb wins arent a real stat its a team game fact is jimmy G has been on one of the most stacked rosters since he got here, i dont know where ur getting your "information" from but every single thing ive heard from multiple sources is that trey lance looks worlds better then he did last year and apparently you dont know what your looking at no offense footwork is part of mechanics and his arm placement is completely different, he still misses the occassional short throw but thats more cuz he doesnt have the feel reps for it yet hes much improved, doesnt understand reads is laughable...but no qb is perfect purdy has been underthrowing the deep ball with regularity in camp
You're literally making the point why Shanahan's evaluation skills at QB should be questioned. How can you justify Lance over Justin Fields in the 1st place. Even if you say Fields is unproven, he was a far safer pick than Lance on paper and it's not even close.
@@truthbearer7891 You aren't wrong about that, however what I will say is that Jimmy performed incredibly well when others didn't in the offense. I don't like most of Lynch's picks and from what I hear, Lance was not their first choice. Same went for Jimmy, Shanahan didn't want Jimmy, Lynch traded for him. Shanahan wanted Cousins to come over.
That was the best quote I have heard all year! "Put your big boy pants on this is the NFL"
Why people aren’t talking about is qb competition is for when players can’t compete under the bright lights.. if they can they are your starter… we found a gem and talkers like them are trying to bring up other things… but let’s go to actual games one and played in without injury
Look at the history of Mr. nobody #12 Brady. Look what happened to the QB position @ New England in 1999-2000
I'm pulling for Brock, but man he's got some pressure on him to really perform this year. Even harder for him coming off a major injury to his throwing arm.
That’s LITERALLY how they’re positioning it holy Christ
Wright is a 🤡 during the end of last year he was saying Purdy is a franchise qb
there is no "they got a chance to play" when youre a team trying to win a super bowl. its not like the 49ers are tanking. It was trey's job to lose and he got hurt (not blaming him just saying). Brock comes in and goes 7-0 lmao like why wouldnt he be the starter at that point? I can't name one scenario when some guy gets injured and the back up plays better and doesnt keep the job unless the starter is making "face of franchise" money.
Purdy stepped in & EARNED the starting role by going 7-1. Only loss being due to injury. Team respects him. Trey’s play has improved, so hopefully they can find a good trade for him & get some of that “sunk cost” back.
would love to see the qb documentary with purdy , it would be a very unique story and probably a lot of adversity this yr
I was 100% on Nicks side until Greg made his point. Brock had to the chance to exhibit something Trey hasn’t. It works, there’s no need to change it at this time. Sucks for Trey but overall I understand the situation
Lol, y'all don't remember Case Keenum's season with the Vikings, before eventually becoming a journeyman backup.
To me, the simple answer to why Lance is in this position rn is cuz he hasn't played much football since high school. 1yr starting in college & only 3+ starts going into yr3 of the NFL. It's possible that the lack of game reps has stunted his growth the last 5yrs. He lost a college yr to Covid & last yr to injury. Tough break 😓🫤
Nick has solidified himself as a legitimate Baylessian hater. If he doesn’t like a player, he will never show them respect and if he like a player, he will never face reality
this man Nick think he knows more than NFL coaches 😂
Purdy did earned a fair shot to start, i also think Trey has to prove he can stay on the feild . I would start purdy if he's healthy by week 3 of preseason
Dear 49ers fan, not really following your team, I’m knee deep in my Jags hype, but how does Brock look after the surgery? Hope he’s back and balls out for y’all.
From the reports he has looked pretty darn good.