Why I DON'T Like the Gan 12 MagLev UV Coated SORRY
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It's always great to see youcubers like you who give their honest opinions, helping out the community instead of aiming for clout.
I really think frosted has grown on me over the years. I don't mind any surface finish at this point. I think the feel and the speed/control with consistent turning matters the most to me, but different cubes have different characteristics that make them good or bad so it could be a longer list than this
I like smooth (low friction between layers), controllable (not too fast) and soft (no catching doing algs).
The closest I have found is tengyun v1 lubed to slow it down (eg galaxy) but I'm going to buy the purple wrm.
Weight: I like "average"
Size: I would love to try a really viable 59mm
Edit: oh yeah - glossy for grip as I struggle somewhat with frosted
I like it more scratchy and fast
I still think the WRM 2019 is one of the best cubes ever! It doesn't even have magnet adjustment, just a screw and elasticity system. It has glossy plastic which I love and it has amazing corner cutting.
I've found that some cubes are hard to set up but moyu flagships are almost always incredibly easy to set up with any lube!
I also like the feel and weight of the cube. I think a cube being less than 70 grams is more of a gimmick and makes the cube feel cheap. I love cubes that are 80 grams cuz they feel way more premium and that's my opinion.
I still use a valk 3m and it's one of my favorite cubes! Cube companies need to go back to just designing a good cube and not be so worried about a new tension system and magnet adjustment.
Yeah its really sad the wrm 2019 got discontinued
@Tom's Cubes ? If a cube got discontinued it doesn’t mean that there are zero of that cube, it means that a cube it not manufactured anymore and no one is making them. And the wrm 2019 is not the wrm 2021 if that’s what you mean
Concerning the weight. I felt like the Gan XS was too light and lacking that centrifugal momentum or something. Gan 11, on the other side, kinda gained that momentum thanks to corner-core magnets. I haven't tried the 12 yet, but I quite like that the 11 is very light but actually behaves like a heavier cube.
I have a 354M v1 which is glossy, and a Gan XS which was matte but got polished by my fingers to glossy. The gloss looks exactly the same on them. However, I can tell the difference between them and my Gan 11 UV. The UV coated cube looks like it was glazed with some finish, I can see sort of excess flow around the edges of the colored tiles (I'm not sure I describe it right because English is not my native language). I love the look and feel of that. The UV coating is not scratch proof, and my UV coated cube has a lot of tiny scratches on it. It's nothing like SCS' PVC coating which literally heals with the heat from your fingers. That said, I'd sign a petition of #bringbackthegloss any time :)
Before Premier Predictions:
1. It's still 56mm. You prefer smaller cubes... the way of most 2021 flagships.
2. Adjusting the MagLev Settings is still clunky compared to Springs.
3. Gan 11's Pokebox is still better.
Nice review, I like how you mentioned your biases, that's something Totalbiscuit used to do. Even though TB might feel differently to a game than me, I could still tell if it's right for me.
I like 56mm cubes best so far, 55.5mm I don't find much difference and 54mm feels a little small but I could probably get used to it. I wouldn't want larger than 56mm in a 3x3, but I know a guy that can't find a large enough 3x3.
I'd say my hands where slightly larger than average but fingers slightly shorter.
I hated how hard the original Rubik's cubes were to turn, so didn't use them much. Since discovering speed cubes I tend to feel the faster the better and haven't found a cube ever too fast. I get finger pain so a lighter and faster cube means I can use it longer, but I understand you like a slower cube with far greater tensions than I would ever like.
You said with the 356 X I think, that you wished there was heavier springs but I already felt the heaviest springs it came with were too heavy for me.
I loved the core magnets on the 11M Pro and still hoped to transition to them. I found the 11M magnets to be very uniform or smooth throughout the turn, I liked this but I also liked the click of the 356X. However the breaking force on the 356X clear magnets did hurt my fingers a bit over time. I could of used the lighter magnets, but I didn't choose to.
As for weight and surface, these were the reasons my 356X remains my main. I love the shiny surface of the 356X, sure it has a couple of scratches but that's part of the charm. The Gan 11M Pro has much less frosting and is more smooth than the early Gan Smart cubes but I still prefer the look and feel of the 356X.
While I like a lighter cube I didn't take enough time to get used to the 11M Pro and went back to the 356X, but I wouldn't want anything heavier than the 356X.
For momentum, on another review I saw they spun the top layer 6 times with one flick. I think being lighter this would change faster with higher frictions/tensions. A heavier cube with more inherent friction from springs would vary less.
Considering the above, have you considered trying to get used to a lighter turning style?
I also already bought a Gan12 after seeing your short but before your review, but based on your turning in your earlier short and your review alone, I still would of been curious enough to buy it.
One thing I would point out though is your review didn't show off the crazy turning at light tensions that you included in your short or I missed it, but you were the only one I've seen to show off tight tenstions so far.
As for price, for me that's not a concern, I've wasted more money buying cubes just to experience them and then to put on a shelf never to use them again. However that's how you find a better cube, this is why I love customization.
Spot on mate. Cubes are losing their quality feel by becoming lighter. Adding weights that you can put in would be perfect and such a classy touch. Ive been dissapointed with each of gans flagships since the X. They perform great if not better than the x, but they just dont feel comfortable. Mainly because of the weight. I really dont like the frosted plastic and primary internals either. Ive got no complaints about the uv coated option , but black internals make the colors easier to distinguish and makes it look better. Also the sound... something needs to change with the sound
Imagine if the huanglongs ball bearings make a comeback.
Oh y'a. I forgot YuXin tried that too.
@I watched this wow. shocking. what didnt you like about it? and what is your favorite cube?
actually bought the Monster Go AI after your quick unboxing of it along with your review of the Gan i carry of a smart cube, and I love it a lot! For a beginner like me, it's the perfect cube to learn with!
Thank you for your honest opinion as always. The perfect puzzle for me would be: 54 mm, not too light and more quiet than clicky, medium to strong magnets, UV coated and set up to be controllable and not too fast. I also like easy adjustment systems.
sounds like you want a uv coated guhong v3m
@@meepnax I don‘t have that cube but might need to check it out.
I like your honesty; much appreciated. As for cube preferences, I think I prefer something similar to the UV coating, grippy and glossy, plus magnets that are a little bit stronger than the RSM 2020. Plus, also wouldn’t mind core magnets, just because I like that concept. Seems neat to me.
I dont really care about size and weight, but 66g would probably work for me worse than other cubes. I would really want a cube thats as stable as possible, but it should also be able to cut 45 degreese ofcourse. I think that UV Coating, MagLev and Corner-Core Magnets is the best option right now, but i didn´t try any of that yet. I only tried PVC Coating, which is similar to UV Coating from what i´ve heard. It should obviously also feel really nice, but almost every cube has that right now. I like the feeling of the WR M, XS, Air SM, GTS3 M, Tengyun, etc... so yeah. and I also think, that cube companys are going the right way with fixed screw tensions, because im always ending up with uneven tensions at some point and than im trying to fix them for half an hour. I even bought a new Thunderclap V3 M and GTS3 M because of that problem. I just think that there should be a little more options than what they have right now. I already mentioned, that i would want UV Coating as the finish, but i would also be fine with glossy and some other finishes, but i absolutely hate something like that that the Meilong has.
there is just one problem with maglev. When you have two magnets that are repelling each other for long amounts of time they will slowly but surely weaken each other therefore the whole spring system will weaken. This is why I have stopped myself from buying this cube. I can go more in detail why it weakens but I won't.
Its so weak that you'll notice the difference in about 10-ish years. Doesn't matter much imo.
the key word is "slowly" neodynium magnets when in use, lose about 5% of their strength, over 100 years, so unless you're planning on using this cube for centuries, you'll be safe with it
Both Gan and Moyu rushed way too hard to put out maglev. Their maglev implementations are just wrong and as a result it makes the puzzles feel strange and off. So heres the issue, magnets don't have a linear force gradient. Theres something called the inverse square law where if the distance between two magnets is doubled the magnetic force between them will fall to a quarter of the initial value. However, on both the WRM 2021 and the Gan 12, you have the same tensioning systems that they use for springs which use a bunch of set distances. Each of those notches needs to be half the one before it for it to feel like a linear adjustment but thats obviously not what we get. Its why the really tight settings are so different from the looser ones. There's a sweet spot on both puzzles where one click literally doubles the tension which is never a good thing (where this is depends on the travel distance) and it's why there are only a couple of good settings on either of the puzzles.
I don't like extremely light puzzles either; they feel cheap and the turning feels really strange. The 11m duo was on the cusp of what I feel is acceptable though I always keep going back to my WRM 2020/2021. Also its plastic is way too thin which makes it almost translucent in certain lights. The corner/core magnets are a good system and so is maglev but their implementation is way too clunky especially for a puzzle at this price. For me, the best feeling puzzle I've ever used is the WRM 4x4 or the Dayan v2 megaminx.
The WRM 4x4 has great plastic pieces that almost feel like they are made out of ceramic. The weight is perfect and the size is just right for a 4x4. The Dayan v2 is a lighter puzzle but it also has very sturdy piece design and clicky magnets which I do like. If I am going to pay a premium for a puzzle, I want that puzzle to feel like its worth it.
Awesome explanation of how they implemented it wrong, i didnt know this so thanks for sharing!
I think now that I have had a UV coated cube I never want to go back to one without it. I have the 11 and really like the center magnet system so far and I'm excited for this next version. I'm a bit hesitant about the maglev concept but figure if I don't like it I always have my 11 still. Lighter doesn't really make a difference to me as long as it isn't brittle. Never had experience with anything less than 56mm so no opinions.
In my opinion, an amazing GAN cube would be one that has either adjustable weights, or is over 75-80 grams at least, glossy plastic, core magnets, edge magnets that are farther into the cube, and heck maybe an interesting touch that yeah wouldn't do too much, but that would give GAN cubes at least a little more value for how much your paying for it would be interchangeable internal plates like the PeakCube had. Maybe like some different colors and textures or whatever. Mostly though I think the higher weight of it would be awesome. I personally really like heavier cubes.
70 - 75 g, 55.5 - 56.0 mm, glossy finish (scratch resistance would be nice) , easy-to-open corners or edges with the option of attaching additional magnets (I would prefer that instead of adjustable magnets), tension setting by adjusting the screw. No need for corner core magnets or fancy customization options; AND NO NEED FOR SCREWDRIVERS :-D
For me, my fav Gan cubes of all the models is the Gan X v1 that has the old tensioning system rather than the new one. It is more softer than the new Gan cubes and a bit quiet when turning
I have that cube and I still main it😂
Gan 356 x is a solid cube ! I have the 356 x, the 356 XS and the Gan 11 m pro from Gan. I have many other cubes like wrm 2020 and rs3m, GTS3M etc.. and really like thé smoothness and the feeling in general of the 356 x ..
It’s very unique ! I really think it’s marketing at some point.. so I will practice with my cubes that I have at the moment. People think that they need the popular and expensive cube of the moment to be good… but in fact max park, feliks, tymon etc get sub 5 with the rubiks connected !
In 3x3 I don't want any magnets. But I want the option of black plastic and stickers or the matt finish. For me the glossy finish gets all slippery and hard to grip when scratched up.
I feel the Rm2020 changed the game - is obvious you don't need to pay a lot of money for a really good cube. Gan really is like the iPhone of cubes - maybe its my age but don't feel the need to upgrade to a whole new device/cube when its only slightly better (if at all in this case) every year. having said that they're in it to make money and I don't think there is any stigma in paying for something you like, no one is forcing people to, the issue with this one seems to be - its more expensive it is it better, or is it simply a different gimmick. Which is why these kind of reviews are important. Good video!
I personally don’t like lighter cubes. I really hated the Gan 11 because of the frosted texture, turning feel, and weight. I think that the Gan 12 has just become way too expensive, at 120$ NZD
I'd love to get a feel for what corner-core magnets feel like, alas I haven't felt like spending money on the 11mpro was necessary for me. Tho I am tempted by the duo, I don't think gan is for me.
I am very interested in the CH mods of eg the xman tornado and wrm! Tho I already have the cubes so if they could sell it as a DIY set that would be great.
i got the Gan 11 m duo for 3 weeks now, its great i wish the inside they used a bit stronger plastic because its a bit weak, but other than that and sometimes when i test corner cutting it catches, its a good cube though. btw the catching only happens when testing corner cutting not in solves, and i think its because the core to corner magnets try to pull the corner pieces in which causes it to catch but when solving your turning to fast for the magnet to make it catch. J perm also said this is more noticable in the Gan 12 which makes sense since there is stronger corner magnets.
My favorite cube and wouldn't ever get the frosted or leap version. Had SCS do the premium setup. People need to keep in mind that THIS IS HIS OPINION and there is a TON of personal preference in cubes.
Just looked up your opinion on this cube after getting one for myself a few days ago. After trying most of the settings and struggling to find anything that would work well for me, I wanted to see if you had any similar issues. The tensions seem to be a problem in that I found, as you've said in your video, there's nothing really on the upper end in terms of settings. I had to set it to 5/6 on both just to get something that was usable for me. I guess maybe the cube just isn't for me, I am more than likely going back to the Tornado v3. There's no doubt that the cube is great, as Tymon/Matty/other high-level cubers all do amazingly on it, but I just can't seem to see where all the hype is coming from (especially with the price, which I agree is also likely just mostly marketing).
What do I look for in a cube? Most of these are already in the Tornado V2, but I'll also list down where it lacks:
1. Quiet Turning
2. Intuitive Adjustment System
3. Good set of accessories (cube bag, adjustment Multi-tool, *stock lubes, *MoYu's Flagship Case/Stand, CFOP Pamphlets, & Generic Adjustment Manual)
4. *A way to take the cube apart for General Cleaning
5. *A wide range of settings for different cubers (most set it to the loosest, so the range isn't really that wide. The same goes with WRM 21's Magnets - most people go with settings 1 or 2).
6. 54-55mm
7. Semi-gloss (I don't mind Frosted. I only see it as a proof of an unused cube - like the seal on food packages).
8. Offers so much for $25 (yeah, the RS3M 20 took the Budget Line, but the Tornado V2 led the Flagship Line with the price)
9. *WRM 19-21 Performance
youre asking for to much
@@DallasKaiiran
lol - that actually put me into perspective.
I was, wasn't I? I guess I do know what I want and was being cheap about it.
I have a Gan 13. To be honest, i don’t love it. It’s okay, but i prefer my MoYu WeiLong WR M. But i plan to use my Gan for a week to see if it improves. I also will try adjusting the settings (it’s currently set-up from SpeedCubeShop). I also like that the MoYu is slightly smaller.
As for Gan, i do LOVE their Smart Cubes. The Gan 365 i3 is a bit clunky / crunchy and catches often. But it’s still AMAZING for practicing algorithms! And i just got the Gan 12 ui, and it’s the best Gan cube i have. It is as good as any non-smart cube i own. The only draw back is the battery doesn’t last long (a few hours only), so I’m glad i have both smart cubes so i can use the i3 when the battery dies on the ui.
What’s your favorite cube on the market rn? Also thank you for making an honest review!
I am using the CH Tornado most at the moment
@@SpeedCubeReview tornado v2 is like a old gab cube. Quality and buttery smooth
Yep, not every professional cube fits everyone. I have a gan 11 m duo, and i absolutely hate it. corner cutting isn't very good, it feels cheap, turning feels a little hard, like the friction is bad. other people might love it tho
Oh I'm planning to buy that but when i see this comment i changed my mind
Question- Would you like to see a 90g 4x4 in future (though it seems impossible)? I think it will feel nice, just thinking about it does not give a -ve answer to me atleast.
I’m new to speedcubing. I know a lot of reviewers really don’t like it. Honestly, I’m kind of intrigued as a boo is and want to try it. So far, I have the regular stickerless Rubik, the 2020 RS3 M, and Gan 11 M Pro. I really like the Gam and really want to get this one. .
I don't really have a size preference (just
The maglev is my fav. I have a lot of problems with turning with half turned layers so the auto alighning is great for me.🤙🤙🤙
That's not what maglev does
@@tylerhicks621 I literally have it
Maglev doesn't auto-align half turned layers. Maglev just replaces springs for the tensioning system and doesn't really do anything for aligning layers.
@@SpeedCubeReview But its what core to corner magnets do. I know you will always hate gan if they announce an incredible cube for 10$.
I literally have used Gan cubes at competition's and talked about some of them as my favorite cubes in my latest video. Anyone who says "you will always hate Gan " hasn't been listening.
As a noob, I prefer strong magnets, fairly tight, very light. 56mm is fine, but I also want very easy turns. Makes me able to do perms without exploding the cube, but again I'm probably MUCH slower than the average person. Oh yeah I have every version of the 11 Pro and I prefer the UV version, and I've worn down the original stickerless black version quite a bit.
Top 5 wishes for cubes:
1. Deeper corner magnets to reduce the clickiness
2. Less focus on the corner magnets they are nice but I often can't tell a difference between the strength settings
3. Dropping the price, I mean the number of different gan puzzles is foolish and the high price point is just begging to miss out on market share.
4. Making adjustments to match what the community wants. Look at moyu and the WRM and the RS3M. Two puzzle sets locking in market by lowering their price.
5. The technology they are trying to invent isn't always addressing the needs the community has with puzzles. Like the puzzle trying to finish it's turns really isn't something that can for most solves unless it's really fast. Why focus on that?
Predictions:
1. A bit too big for your liking?
2. Don't like UV Coating?
3. Prefer 11 M Pro Box?
I totally appreciate the fact that even though GAN sent you the cube, you really expressed your disliking for it. I don't think that is an easy thing to do. I really believe GAN should take a step back with prices and trying to push the envelope just in a marketing way a bit too much.
For me, I don't have the 12, but the 11 had way too strong magnets for my style. I enjoy light puzzles as they're easier on the arms but I do understand that the inertia of a slightly heavier puzzle might help in some ways. I actually like 55mm puzzles better but having big hands I feel they're right at the edge of usability for me as there's a few occasions where my fingers get stuck in an alg (can you hear me, E perm?) that I never get on a 56.
Love the honest opinion thanks
Sounds like you are describing a cube I'd love. (except for the clicks)
Size: OK.
Grippy coating: Good, though oddly, I've not found my Gan 11 pro M UV to be grippier than my regular Gan 11 Pro M ... maybe I've got weird skin? ...
Weight: Excellent. (I love a light puzzle)
Fast: (didn't catch that part, can I assume it is fast and easy to turn?)
I tend to go light with magnets and prefer fast, easy and light puzzles. I prefer dry puzzles as the feel is easier to maintain and hate it when they get "gummy", which is inevitable when you lube (though I must admit, the first hours of solving with a fast lube are sweet).
Controllable: (I assume you found the puzzle a little hard to control?)
I don't care much about control. I'm a slower Roux cuber (typical 40-90 second, typical (PB ~28 seconds (in practice) currently averaging around 70, due to switching to Roux full color neutrality (was around 40-50 secs when focused on W/Y top and G/B sides) ) I just like to do solves at my slower pace, but value the cube being easy to turn over controllability.
Clicky: --- don't like that at all, Strongly prefer quiet cubes. but I don't mind it when alone in a room.
Eyyy! Fellow Roux Solver here
I like lightweight puzzle because I like spamming moves and the heavier it is the more energy it requires to move and the faster you fatigue. Light magnet is also preferred if the puzzle is light as it takes less effort to disengage the magnets from each other, thus less fatigue. This is why I like WR M and MeiLong 3M better than the RS3M 2020. I have never touched GAN cubes yet to know if I prefer that over MoYu cubes. I also hate loud puzzle. The quieter the better.
I personally like fast tactile cubes that have good corner cutting or in this case auto aligning, and have lots of customizability. Personally its the perfect cube for me. But I respect your opinion.
Love your honest reviews!
My issue with Gan has always been the price.
I have never used a Gan so I can’t attest to how if performs, but when the likes of the now $5 WR3M 2020 (which outclassed everything on the market at release) is still a viable product for speed cubing, why would you throw away hard earned cash that you could spend on stuff you ‘need’?
Sure, maybe the quality of the older Gan’s were among the best on the market, but when they are given to the best of the best, young impressionable folk “must have one”. And yeah, that gives Gan a boat load of cash to experiment, innovative, and improve cubing, but the likes of MoYu, QiYi, and YJ are doing the same with a cheaper product.
Too crunchy and uncontrollable
I don't have much expectations, just a little bit worse than the 11 Pro i think
It’s a fine cube be thankful for what you have
I love the Gan 11 UV coated. I have over a dozen Gan cubes, pretty much every edition they've made and doubles for favorites (I have 2 UV coated 11's),... I really wanted the Gan 12 Maglev,.. but at $80. I just reached my breaking point with Gan. I refuse to pay $80. for a 3x3 puzzle cube. Not when Moyu, Qiyi and others all make fantastic cubes for $30. or less.
Great honest video 👍
Looking forward to your thoughts on the amended Mini M Pro tensioning system before I pull the trigger on that one.
I think core magnets and edge center magnets are gimmicky and just get in my way. I understand it works for some but for me, simple magnets are all I need - with maybe some adjustment options so I can select my preferred magnet strength.
As far as MagLev goes, I always prefer faster cubes and in my experience MagLev cubes are crazy fast. And if they're too fast a little lube easily gets it to my preferred speed.
Glossy Plastic for life. Matte is a gimmick that wears out anyway and is annoying while it is still present because my fingers slip off the puzzle mid turn.
Also I would love to see Gan do what Moyu did with the WRM lite. Basically reduce all the fancy packaging and unnecessary accessories and drop the price. Nobody uses that shit beyond the first couple of days when they're excited.
It's a great cube, but it's just way too light for me to hold, which is a personal preference. Also the Gan 11m pro which I also have feels much nicer than the 12, in my opinion. Also, it's too expensive, so I'm probably not getting another gans in the future.
People are so spoiled and jaded. Erno Rubix would have shit in his pants if he saw this cube 30 years ago.
Great video. I think GAN is feeling the pressure from Moyu and other companies. Maybe they are trying to hard. Keep it simple. And I agree.... too expensive. Can you do a video where you compare new flagships from Moyu and Gan.
I also don't like the latest Gan's cubes. They are probably the fastest cubes, but I don't like to cube with them. It feels like they are made with cheap plastic, and they will break in your hands. I would love to see them a little heavier and much much cheaper. On the other hand, I literally love the UV coat, but NO way I am going to buy a $60-70 cube, and you should do the same.
To be honest I don’t fully get your points given that you actually liked the 11M Pro and your concerns would be valid for that cube too. Or did your preference change? I don’t say the 11M Pro and the 12 could not be better and I also don’t say, GAN’s direction seems to be good (either about the price or the areas that they are focusing on)… But for my taste the 11M Pro was far the best cube in 2020 and probably I would think the same about the 12 this year, because I just like the feeling of these kind of cubes.
I agree with you that GAN should focus on what the majority of the cubers actually would like to see in the puzzles and also they should seriously reconsider the pricerange… But these issues did not just appear with the 12 today.
I did a quick check on his Gan 11 vid and he seems to consistent:
1. The 55mm (or smaller) is his preference thing.
2. Frosted finish is a "meh"
3. The Gan 11 is light, and he almost wished it was heavier. So, the Gan 12 is indeed too light for him.
4. He slowed down the 11. So the 12 is indeed too fast for him.
5. He's a fairly accurate turner, so the 12's "+2 Fixer" (which isn't really in the 11) is irking him.
6. With more magnets you'd expect the 12 to be heavier than the 11. Gan got around that by using a much thinner plastic. So the 11 somehow has a stronger build because of it.
7. He had no problem recommending the heavier older Gan Puzzles even at that time... even mentioning back then the Adjustable Weight one.
Finally, the only new thing he addressed was the price because Gan is just ignoring the current market in terms of that. It was only focused on competing against MoYu.
I would like a UV Coated, Corner-core Magnets, 52mm, 50grams, adjustable magnets, with a gan11-xman tornado feel
Edit 9 months later:
I would like a 56mm gan 13 uv coated, but like 50 grams
The cube is made light by making the plastic thin.
You can even see the tensioning system through the plastic.
That seems really bad !
Imagine we have holographic cubes in the future 😱
There’s an old saying if engineers or designers are not coming up with new ideas then there not doing their job and they could get fired.
should I lube the core maglev? I assume there is still contact between the screw and the plastic of the center piece, and between outer side of the magnet with the plastic of center piece, should we lube it? note: I take example of moyu wrm maglev and rs3m maglev
You never really need to lube the core. Not even with spring u less you are dominating sound.
You actually don't need to lube the pieces. Lubrication is used to change the feeling of the cube. It's not necessary for a function like you would think oil with a car.
Just give it to me if you don't like it it's that simple!
I bought it. I agree 100 percent with what you said in your video.
i LOVE the gan 12 maglev, it's perfect for me. the only thing i dont like about it is that it pops a lot
Really?? maybe very much for loosen settings??
honnestly I still use my 354v2 with yellow springs i think you should try it if you havn't already
I got the gan 11mpro uv coated because people didn't like it. Got it from scs cause it was on sale
hey, speed I saw you comment about my rubik impossible from 2 weeks ago . man
Also, unrelated to the video subject, what’s the name of the arrowed 3x3 on the shelf with the penguin puzzle? Saw a another video on it awhile back, but can’t remember the name.
It's just my original rubik's brand, but added stickers from the now closed CubeSmith
@@SpeedCubeReview Gotcha’. Thanks, man.
Not a good video scr. You're talking all personal preference. Basically you're calling out gan to make a custom cube for you. I hate the Gan 354 V2 because they didn't adjust the core to the size and therefore felt totally incomplete to me. All a puzzle has to feel like for me is Fun. The gan xs still does that for me. That puzzle never get's boring because of its light turning, tactical feel and the more accurate turning you have to do yourself. To much assist and a puzzle gets boring quite easily. You also have to remind yourself that the majority of puzzlers in the world are not sub 20 solvers and do not require the preferences you guys great solvers have. Gan xs is still the most exciting puzzle to date for me. The feel,the sound, the imperfection, the perfection, the perfect weight... Still like your reviews scr! Keep it up 👍
This is correct. It is my personal preference. If I was completely objective every video for every new 3x3 would be. It's good. Here are the specs (Weight, Size, etc). I say in the video that It may be perfect for you, and I am not saying it's a bad cube. I believe I say in the video that it is a Good cube.
nice video! very well explained! it has new technologies, opening new patches… along the time it will be better! 😉 all in all for a 20 sec solve (my times), it will not make a hugue difference… 😂
prediction:
1. the maglev execution was not great, it was rushed and the tensioning system is whack
2. the pieces didn't really change that much from the previous iterations (it may be a downgrade from what i can tell)
3. too light. the puzzle may feel a little brittle
4. modern gan puzzles rely on magnets TOO MUCH! (just copy moyu and qiyi mann, make a great piece design and build from that, don't rely on gimmicks that much)
5. related to 4, the alignment system MAY BE intrusive to some people and it might just feel like turning magnets with plastic instead of turning plastic with the accompaniment of magnets
6. last but always the least the pricing, my last gan cube was the air m and i swore that i would never buy another gan cube again.. too much unnecessary packaging and useless tools that won't be used other than setting up the cube ONCE!
am i right shawn? lol
I'm still happy with my gan x V2. Still my main.
I thought I was the only one who likes the Monster Go M, or has even tried it. Maybe because it's more marketed towards children
How is it too light. Lighter is better.
And how does 0.5mm make a difference, its a 20th of a centermetre.
I need to update my profile picture.
It's of moyu Weilong but I have gan 12 now
Lighter is not always better, especially when it comes to the distribution around the cube.
The, .5mm and specially 1mm does feel very different. It may sound like a small About but the overall volume of a 56mm puzzle is 105% of the volume of a 55mm puzzle.
@@SpeedCubeReview OK I guess it is your opinion not mine
GAN 11 M Duo vs MoYu RS3M 2021 3x3 MagLev (Magnetic)
Which one would you pick, please Lemme know!! Asap
Check czcams.com/video/hKbWZKY_fwo/video.html That will answer your question and more. I would not get either of those two.
do u like gan11m pro? i love 11m cos it so light. GAN stop listening to this guy. u don't like don't use. UV coated Is so cool to hold. Heavy cubes sux
Hey Sir Im a fan of you since 4 years ago and I actually like that cube but doesn't have the money to bought it so can I have it since you don't like the cube? so that I can Join comps and be consistent in sub 10 God bless your day sir🙂♥️
Remember that any cube is good and you can be under 10 seconds with literally the midget cubes that are around $5.
Prediction: It just turns itself
Based Shawn
one more prediction : little harder to adjust
I love frosted so much to the point that I will clean my x man tornado just so I could feel the matte but I’ve used it so much to the point that its got more grip than my yuxin lm.
I want a standardization of how to adjust your Cube.
@Tom's Cubes Think about Bluetooth. It was a collaboration of like four or five different companies to create a standardization. It could slow things down or it could accelerate finding the right set up options. It all depends on how things are done and why.
Prediction: It’s too expensive
Actually, that's the last of my issues.
Prediction 2: Way too fast
Prediction 3: hype for no reason.
Prediction 4: its not small (as he loves small cubes hahaha)
11m duo ftw
Great video, as always. Can I ask you the best cubes in the market in your opinion, right now? What is your "main" at the moment? Thanks for all your help and insight 🙂
Thank you. I've been enjoying the weight and size of the tornado CH
Please make short tricks video 🙂
Sees price
Yeah well, I don't like the GAN 12 MagLev UV either.
Gan cubes got so excesive and their prices are just ridiculous
It's called "prestige pricing" and I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Very common in other sales markets
That's funny, I love the feeling
I don’t have any Gan cube I love Qiyi puzzles and I have a moyu 4x4
I don't like Gan u can argue but he not changing my mind
#Bringbackthegloss
Gan copied moyu with the mag Lev moyu's genius idea
How fast can you solve a cube
Quite
GAN cubes suck. If you have your magnets set up the way you like them, you're done, no?? Why would you need to keep adjusting them?
A cube that just included slots for magnets, that was also supported with magnet-sets that came in minimum-, weak-, medium-, strong- and maximum-strength would be more configurable than a GAN cube (at least in terms of the tractor array), and the result would be much more simple and elegant than a cube with DIP switches on the corners that are operated with the end of a screwdriver.
I would love to see innovation in cube customization, but quick-adjustability just doesn't seem especially useful.
Having a simple, light cube with slots (in the pieces) for ballast would work really well (the ballast could just be square, steel plates, with holes of varying sizes punched out). The company could also sell a range of cores with different masses, so you could distribute a chosen amount of extra mass towards the core, or on the corners, or around the edges, or any of the possible permutations.
GAN uses its (genuine) innovations to design overly complicated (and expensive) puzzles that actually limit their owner's ability to tune their cube, all for the sake of allowing quick adjustments, which is of little practical use.
I personally went with the MoYu RS3M 2021, as that seemed much more elegant, and it only cost £6.95 (with a tractor array and maglev). GAN cubes are absurdly over-engineered.
Quick Adjustability is actually the standard now. Many favor it over inconveniently having a separate kit for configuration, then have that kit lying around somewhere when you're done.
When your adjustment system is already in the cube, you won't have any spare parts potentially getting lost. You just have the cube (and it's tool).
As for "Why do I need to keep adjusting them when I got the settings I want?"
1. Experimentation - I love tinkering and playing with different settings in general. I can always easily go back to my liking anyway.
2. Improvements in My Times - I don't really have to re-adjust FREQUENTLY. For example. When I started as a 1-min Solver, I had my RS3M 20 set to the tightest setting (stock magnets). As my fingertricks improved, I gradually loosened my cube and added magnets. Over time, the Spring Compression (which was still set to 0) also gradually moved up.
If there was a flaw in Gan's customization, it's the fact that it's clunky compared to the competition.
Hey, @@thesphyrth. You know a lot more about this subject than I do, but the fact that it has become standard now is the problem, as I see it. It's a bad trend. The cubes sacrifice customizability (and simplicity, reliability and affordability) to make the few things you can adjust easier to change.
Simply making the slots that the magnets go in 4mm taller (but still the same diameter) as the magnets, then providing 0.5mm thick (non-magnetic) washers that go above or below the magnet, would make the (effective) magnet strength much more configurable than the GAN system (and applies to every magnet). If the washers had holes of different sizes in (changing their masses), they could double as ballast, so that would be finely configurable too. You could easily extend this approach to the maglev system as well.
Keeping everything so simple would help to keep the cube itself really light, so the ballast wouldn't normally be redundant, and they could sell low-density washers with big holes for people who wanted to minimize the mass of the ballast. They could also sell weighted cores, so the user could distribute the extra mass better etc.
The cube would not be adjustable, at all, so admittedly, you wouldn't be able to incrementally adjust the cube as you practice (at least, readily), but you could own four for the price of a GAN 12 M Pro, which could all be configured differently. And you wouldn't lose the bits, as you leave them at home, in your toolbox. That's the point, really - to separate the art of configuring cubes, from the fun of just using them.
Dana Yi has small hands and doesn't have a problem with larger cubes. 😂 Lots of whinging going on here. Send it back if you don't like it. Click bait absolutely...
You realize I interviewed Dana where we talked about wanting a smaller puzzle and how she preferred it to be a few mm smaller? Is literally on this channel too. Secondly, there is a difference between "not having a problem" and preference.
cit gan 12 maglev its my main
I like maglev
that magnets...jaja
Bruh
Just give me HAHA😀 I LOVE GAN CUBE BUT I DONT HAVE
It is the best cube ever! Ordered one myself.
No. Check why I say that in the video
Nope. Did you even watch the video?