“The Sea Controls You, You Can’t Control It” Former Submarine Captain On Missing Titanic Tourist Sub
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Rescue teams are in a race against time to find a submersible tourist vessel which went missing during a voyage to the Titanic shipwreck off the coast of Canada, with a British billionaire among five people aboard.
There may be as little as 57 hours of emergency oxygen left aboard the submersible, which lost communication with tour operators on Sunday while about 435 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland.
Retired submarine captain Ryan Ramsey tells TalkTV’s Mike Graham that he is not optimistic about the possibility of rescue.
“The sea can be a really horrendous place to operate… it controls you, you don’t control it.”
#talktv #talktv #talkradio #titanic #search
Should the Titanic be a tourist destination?
I personally believe this is a place for experts and not a tourist destination. What a tragic, tragic accident ... i hope it puts people off the idea completely!
A tourist attraction? NOPE.
If it was not on the edge of human technology yes, but as it is no.
No leave it be
He'll no ! Let em rest in peace whats wrong with people
I was in submarines for over twenty years. There is no rescue capability for a submersible at that depth in fact there are very few salvage assets capable of bringing an object to the surface from the sea floor period and those assets would take weeks to get into position. They are either on the surface or in a deep water tomb. Even on the surface this "toy submarine" is sealed from the outside so the crew cannot open the hatch as the Capt suggested. It is my hope and prayer if they are not on the surface that an implosion occurred and the end came quickly so they do not have to suffer an extended wait in cold, dark hopelessness.
A quick death is merciful...RIP
So they are screwed in every which way…yikes
@@alyciamarie4163 They are gone...there are worse ways to die
I was thinking the same thing. I hope they died instantly if they aren't floating on the surface.
They could probably find a way to breach the hull to let a little air in, if on the surface. Even a hammer and chisel would work on the plexiglass.
Edit: but it's certainly imploded. Rest in peace to all who died, perhaps they will have interesting conversations with those who passed on the titanic, plenty to talk about.
As an submariner, I can say with certainty. Subs designed to go to those depths require a lot of specialized design, manufacturing, and maintenance. Skimp on any of it, it is a disaster waiting to happen. There really only a couple workable life saving methods when that deep. I wish them luck, they gonna need it.
I thought there was always strict regulation submarines built for private and civilian use
@@kobra6660 there are. But like anything else, there are ways. I'm gonna guess it was more of a maintenance issue than anything else.
The builder of Titan seemed to be hyper focused on the hull and his "propritary hull monitor system," not on all the other moving parts required to keep the Sub safe.
They need a miracle.
Imagine, no power, no light, no heat. Sunk to the bottom of the ocean, no chance of rescue from above.
This thing does not even have a signal that could float to the surface :(
Right..and you never would use a $36 logitech controller to drive the ship. Even a Formula 1 Wheel is between $50 000 -$100 000.
Absolutely insane having no backup plan.
Rich assholes who think their invincible!
Not really. We do things all the time without a back up plan. Aka the moon. More than likely mars as well. To say the ocean is less explored than space is a little disingenuous of them though. Seeing as space goes on infinitely we havent even touched a fraction compared to the oceans.
@@idkjamesthey had no rescue or contingency plan for a disaster large or small. Unmanned submersibles should’ve gone down with them so they have eyes on them and actually see what tf happened. 96 hours of oxygen which is 4 days but the human body can only last 2-3 days without fresh water. And the crew cannot even self rescue if they are on the surface? They could still suffocate bobbing up and down in the water.
They can’t have a 100% backup plan but a lot of safety measures not taken. For a submersible to take actual human beings up and down at those depths would require NASA-like quality control and maintenance. This was like a submersible built in someone’s garage
@@DP-eo5xd the Apollo 1 crew couldn’t self rescue on the launch pad. All 3 died. Challenger/Columbia. Even NASA has “killed” people. Unfortunately in exploration it happens. I’m sure they had some contingency planning. We don’t have their non standard ops manual and I’m more familiar with them in aviation anyway. But I’m sure it exists. Also the people on it knew the risks.the fact that redundancies exist in the submersible proves there was contingency planning. I’m sure as well they do have some water just may need to ration though I feel like the most likely explanation is catastrophic failure. But I’m no marine engineer.
@@idkjames the fact that the crew cannot simply get open air oxygen while on the surface and it’s conceivable they may suffocate bobbing up and down on the ocean surface shows to me lack of planning and foresight. 96 hours of oxygen the human body cannot last more than 2-3 days without fresh water.
They couldn't even find a passenger plane that went missing in malaysia. What chance have these poor people got.
I think the problem with MH370 is that they don't really know where it disappeared. There's a huge range of deep ocean where it could be. They know exactly where they dropped this submersible. It could've drifted to the ocean floor, but that's still a way smaller search area than with mh370.
Also look at Air France 447. It took a couple years, but they found that at the bottom of the ocean.
They couldn't find the Titanic either. How many years did that take?
@@grantofat6438 you are talking they couldn’t find it without technology. It was found 40 years ago
Poor teenager on board. A life cut way too short.😢
And all to prove that money can buy anything
Oh no a billionaires kid and two billionaires. What a loss.
Anyways, the whales are winning, what can we do to help?
He's a 19 year old adult capable of making his own decisions.
Rough crowd here. Geeze!
@@brandonstone2754 You really are a prick.
As a veteran USCG Marine Safety Inspector Investigator I can say it doesn't meet SOLAS - Safety Of Life At Sea certification standards. If it doesn't surface on it's own/if it's on the ocean floor, there's not going to be a "rescue"... the US Navy DSRV doesn't get to that depth, and even if it did, the DSRV is designed to mate with the hatch(s) on US, UK, and NATO subs. From other reports, this mini submersible's hatch has to be secured from the outside... There are remote submersible's that could POSSIBLY attach a cable to allow it to be reeled back to the surface... but not before the oxygen is depleted. If it does surface on it's own through the "built in fail-safes" it'll eventually be found. But I don't hold any hope for a positive outcome. Save for a miracle......
Not to mention they don't know where it is. You might be able to answer a question I have tho. If this sub imploded, which is what I think happened, would there be a debris field? The only subs I'm familiar with having imploded was the one navy sub that went to deep in it's trials and I don't remember if anything came up.
You Tube won't let me edit... in my time of service (1990s) there were NO SOLAS standards for certification of submarines for "passenger for hire" service. We did speculate as to the potential certification of old WW2 Uboats/subs that were refurbished for passenger cruises... theoretically they could be SOLAS certified for SURFACE operation only. But those were in the EU and not subject to U.S. regs unless they came into our waters. The IRONY is that the loss of the Titanic was the precursor for the development of SOLAS...and here we have a passenger for hire mini sub that's not SOLAS safe going to "visit" the reason for SOLAS to begin with.
@Doodooface... if it was crushed/imploded there would be some traces of it... likely mixed in with that of the Titanic - which covers a good bit of the ocean floor surrounding the hull of the ship. So it would take the literal fine tooth comb to find the pieces save for extreme luck. This appears to be a bit of a farce that found a loophole in the law of some country in order to be able to operate as such.
Dose SOLAS really mean anything legally binding though if they taking it and launching it in international waters?
An ROV could be used to attach a gas balloon and simply float the vessel back to the surface. Its small size may by their salvation, _IF_ the vessel has not already suffered catastrophic water ingress, which is my guess.
All of our technology, all of our science, all of our engineering...and we go down in a vessel that has an X-Box controller to steer with. Brilliant.
Why do people keep saying this as if it’s a problem. A kid could play with an Xbox controller for 20 years and it never malfunction. Many, many such vehicles are controlled in the same manor. A drone, whether hobbyist or military is controlled with a similar controller. Many oil rig submersibles are controlled with a similar controller.
Did they take a Costco pack of AAs down there with them?
@@toniatkins4898nah, Dollar Tree AA's with hours of use already on them.
You realize navy submarines use Xbox controllers for certain things right. I'm not joking.
@@doodoo66 if you think of the millions of kids spending hours everyday using controllers it’s no surprise. A console controller is probably one of the most reliable bits of technology around. They do what they’re supposed to. Whether it’s controlling Mario kart on a Nintendo or a submarine is irrelevant, it’s just is to respond to the persons inputs and send signals, it’s not rocket science. It’s highly unlikely this sub incident is related to the controller
I just heard another expert say that they couldn't release the 'hatch' even if they wanted to, because the hatch was secured from the outside before they submerged. In other words, there's no possibility of opening anything from the inside.
I heard the exact same thing.
No benefit to opening a sub hatch at 12,000 feet down. Human body can't handle that pressure
Well now. Actually I think it did open up. Accidently. At depth.
Report on NPR this morning.
17 Bolts. 😬
Seems similar to folks putting climbing Mt. Everest on their bucket list only to find out it may not be the best idea.
Bucket list becomes bucket event lol
I can't understand the morbid curiosity that drives people to pay $250K to dive into a graveyard 1.5 miles deep. Titanic has been exploited for decades, and its artifacts recovered (for profit). It's disrespectful, it should be left alone. You probably get a better view of every video already recorded about it from the comfort of your home. I hope they're found alive and if not, that they went quickly. What a horrible thing to go through (and anguish for their families to endure).
I have little sympathy for these people and think any rescue effort would be a gross waste of public resources
@@nicoresnik2943 Me too, they spend the average persons income over 10 years on a trivial trip to see a rusting piece of metal, good riddance is what I have to say.
They are deader than disco. Unfortunately.
@@DP-eo5xd At this point, sadly, that would be the best case for them, to hope they died instantly. I can’t imagine if they find them alive at the bottom of the ocean since nothing can be done to rescue them, there are no means to do it. What do you do then? Basically wait for their oxygen to run out? :(
2.5 miles deep.
The sea can be very unforgiving & we pray they come back safely!
we?????
@@rostovdon724 yes We, im stuck down here, at least i can text.
@@duckman5642 🤣. Then you go and pray hard!!! Don’t be late! Hurry up!
You've got to be really stupid to go down this depth with a toy submersible and even more stupid to shell out $250k to go in this death trap. Damn, you can't make this stuff up.
Top comment ! 😀
Dumb comment, It's not a toy 😂😂 it's done many many dives, which could be one of the reasons for the failure.
To be fair to Oceangate they started off small and have many great working designs and usuge of submersibles. The workers are down there with 3 crew I'm sure it's just a clog, an entanglement with a huge 300 metre drift net abandoned by negligence
People die every year trekking without the right equipment, making equally stupid life decisions, what ya gunna do? ban trekking? and mountaineering, and deep sea exploration? are you wanting to ban every activity that is dangerous? isle of man TT? solo sailing? get a grip, there are always some who want to do brave/stupid stunts, sports or even free climbing really high buildings for the kick. If you dont get it, woohoo! youre just like most of the rest of us. Its only a few crazies, so live, and let live/die.
I had to read this a few times, because I wrote this word for word yesterday. 🤣😂🤣😂
1 of 3 things happened. Water pressure, giant sea monster, or negligence
So the short version of this story is "It was a stupid idea'.
You stick to watching TV, much safer... Leave the adventure to those with a aptitude for such things :)
Yup plain and simple. But A Billionaire is on board so…
@@pimplequeen2 Are you a bit thick?
In summary, probably either of two situations exist: (1) hull crushed therefore all dead, or (2) hull intact but unable to surface for some reason and not able to be rescued. Operator was sued in 2018 and it was alleged the sub was not safe, in particular the hull was not proven to be strong enough and the viewing window was only certified by its manufacturer for less than half the depth Titanic is at. Considering all of this, it seems most likely the sub imploded due to immense water pressure at over 12,000 feet depth which is around 2.5 tons per square inch, and death was instant. This type of dangerous activity needs to be strictly regulated or prohibited and the cowboys involved in this tragedy need to be prosecuted.
No way to contact help ? Imagine how absolutely awful these folks feel!!
They put themselves in this position. Was it worth it?
Safety comes first now lads you would of thought a millionaire would have the brains not to go in a tin sub
@@puresim316nosimracingnolif3 a billionaire, guess dollars can't buy sense
They paid to put themselves in this position!!
Sorry mate, they're not feeling a thing - when communication was lost at 1000 metres they were gone.
Icarus flew in the Sun and the wax in his wings melted. These guys should have read more.
Said by someone riding on the backs of those who pushed the boundaries of the possible.
Keep reading, you missed a chapter :)
Muse des beaux ❤️
Apparently the hatch has been designed to be open only from the outside which doesn't help if they have managed to get up to the surface.
Correct. And this is EXACTLY why you DON'T set something like this in motion without CONSTANT monitoring (uninterrupted under any circumstances), AND I submit that there should be additional submersibles (either robotic or manned) to accompany the tourists... They're charging $250,000 dollars, they ought to TRY to be as SAFE as possible--evidently, they were not. This is a NIGHTMARE.
They probably have a surface Snorkel to get fresh air....but then as i get more clear abouts its design it seems like a backyard DIY job.
Also the sub doesn't have tracking/functional tracking either apparently.
OceansGate Heavansgate ?????????
@@krishnamahadev4208 no,.they will not have any opening to the outside because of the consequences of accidentally opening it at depth.
They could possibly make a hole to allow air in, if they have an electric drill onboard, which isn't likely.
But really, they're almost certainly dead already.
Its easier to rescue people from Space than it is from the deep ocean
How do you come to that conclusion?
@@Sonya_Makepeaceit's not about how do you come to that conclusion, it's true imagine trying to find someone under water with no ping no location under the dark no chance very hard to find these people
@@Sonya_Makepeace It's easier to send people into space than the deep ocean.
@@Sonya_Makepeace Because its much harder to put a man 2 miles deep in the ocean than it is to put someone on the moon. Pressure on the human body at sea level is one atm, at 12000 feet deep it is 380 atm or about 5500 pounds per square inch
Outer space is not safer. A chink in the armor or space suit and its over.
If they get to the surface... its the same as being at the bottom of the sea. They cannot open the hatch from inside. Truly tragic
They'd be detected if they surfaced. They've already been crushed, let's be sensible.
@Ernest Chadwell Being sensible is not making assumptions without proof, Do you realise this? To say they've been crushed without any evidence, isn't being sensible at all. There's a number of things that could have happened, and you, like everyone else watching this tragedy has no idea what's happened and won't until they are recovered.
@@tonytajineIf they are recovered.
Ive heard alot of talk from people avout the oxygen remaining on board, which is important to keep track of. But what Im thinking of is this thing was a civilian sub for tours meant to return after not too terribly long, so how much food do they have? Drinking water? Does the vessel have enough fucntionality to still regulate the temperature?
Its terrifying because theyre not just stranded in the ocean, theyre lost among its depths
Good points...
What about lights?
@@gabyyaby.9928 From what I've heard, there was a lot of what I would call cost-cutting, considering were talking about a submersible. Such as a video game controller to steer and camping lights for the interior. With them being camping lights, they probably have their own power source, like batteries or something
Imagine paying money to die slowly at the bottom of the sea... imagine the tour guides not mentioning that there is no way to save you if something goes wrong. Wild to me. Just wild.... imagine building a sub without a distress beacon. This planet man i swear
Yes we are all submersible engineering experts. Nobody could have imagined your your brilliant points.
Truly tragic. RIP to the occupants and condolences to their families.
The most expensive search and rescue exercise ever is mounted to recover some extremely rich people who's Holliday went wrong. While several days ago dozens of refugees drown because no-one went to their aid on the surface of the Mediterranean !!!
Some men believe they can do whatever they want, they can not.
Doesn’t the craft have a location beacon? One would think that would be a helpful piece of equipment.
At that depth the signal wouldn't go anywhere.
Radio and GPS signals don't reach that far down. A sonar becon is the only thing thay would work and from my understanding it had one for communication, if that is down, either catastrophic power failure, or it imploded
12,500ft [ 2.3 miles ] down? I don't think people realize that depth is deeper than any military subs that I'm aware of can handle. The Oscar class, currently in service with the Russian navy, is the deepest diving operational submarine in the world today, and it *only has a test depth of 830 meters/2723 feet........ *
Credit to the explorers on this Earth for bringing us so many adventures and technological advances in the past, and for putting themselves at great risk to bring us forward, and show all the wonderful treasures hidden on the planet. Thoughts and prayers for those onboard. 🙏
Military is under equipped for deep sea operations. When Oscar II Kursk sunk in 65 metres of water, the rescue attempts and salvage was done by private contractors from Norway from memory.
People keep saying this and it confuses me... So our mighty military doesn't have a submarine that can reach those depths, but this little "tin can" being operated by an Xbox controller was suppose to go down there no problem. Sounds more and more like a suicide mission everyday... I just don't get it.
@@OEazy45 Have you ever seen the Wright brothers 1903 Flyer? Deathtrap. Now look where we are today. 🙂
@@calidude3758 I hear you.. Good point
@@OEazy45 Because you can't have both size AND depth: military subs need size for their tasks, which limit their depth. It's like a bridge: the smaller it is the easier (and better) you can make it sturdy. "simple" physics and all that.
Blowing the tanks in an emergency could be so simple but I am concerned that this systems-based sub has meant that the crew are largely helpless if the Bluetooth to the controller fails (they admit to using Bluetooth).
Hope they are found safe bobbing on the surface soon. 🙏
The have mechanism to manually raise up. My guess either catastrophic power failure, or it imploded
@@ohsnap6506 implosion is the most likely scenario considering the sudden loss of contact and failure to automatically surface.
There's no water weight ballast... the ballast is steel pipes on each side (port and starboard on a rack. They are dropped by the occupants all shifting position and thus tilting the sub far enough to allow the pipes to roll off the racks. Just like in the old Nazi U-boats... when they went to do an emergency dive the entire crew ran forward to the bow torpedo room and their weight assisted in the rapid descent
There is no hatch on this vessel. It is pressure sealed from the outside with 17 bolts. If they make it to the surface they are dependent on the recovery crew to remove the bolts to free them.
Like being lowered into the abyss in a jail cell
Correct
That's terrifying holy fuck
I feel the ocean has claimed this vessel. 🙁
Titanic
Or USOs...
I'll bet the inside floor of the vessel is covered in piss and giant turds, by now.
How would you like to open the hatch and take a good whiff of that man cave?
💩💩💩💩💩😦😂
Crushed to the size of a walnut under the titan grip of 400 bar pressure.
2 billionaires on there. I hope a whale crushed it
so appreciate the hard-boiled aplomb of Mike Graham.
I suspect it imploded at a depth of around 8000ft, this would mean instant death, no suffering.
I feel sorry for the teenage boy. No way could he have processed the risk factors involved.
If a 19 year old can’t process the dangers of going 3 miles under water something is wrong
He's an adult and capable of making his own decisions.
@@dilltdog1158 brain stops developing at 23
He isn't 5?? But... I do feel for him.. I feel for all of em 🙏
@Dill T Dog his up bringing is far different than a normal teenager. That boy is having a mental breakdown as I write down this comment.
People seem to not get it, who cares if they are billionaires or whatever... The fact of the matter is there are potentially 5 humans down there with a couple of days air, waiting on rescue or death... I don't care who you are, if you were in that position you wouldn't take a second thought to the gravity of the situtation...
you won't be able to afford the rescue, it's expensive to go down there, need equipment and specialist
they paid the price and signed that waiver. sad sad sad.... Prayers for their families
Exactly. Ill never ever change my mind that you have to be incredibly dumb to even attempt this, let alone even pay a fee bucks for it, but still this is a terrible situation. Wouldn't wish it upon anyone even if they made a terrible choice.
It's not about the rescue, it's about your attitude towards a fellow human in trouble... Sure, you can write it off as not feasible, but to say that you don't even care, or worse, laugh at them because they have money, speaks volumes to what is wrong with the world today...
I thought a millionaire would have more sense not to go in some cheap tin trailer trash submarine
Life is frail dont leave home without JESUS
If you think about this expedition rationally its bloody crazy
As was learning to fly but here we are enjoying the fruits of those with an affinity for adventure :)
Its just bragging rights at the pub/wine bar 👍
@@duckman5642
I think you reveal a little more about yourself than you intend :)
@@pimplequeen2 likewise
@@everydaysports9199
How so?
Imagine being a billionaire on an underwater vacation in a submarine, if any of us went missing in our own cities these people wouldn’t look for us or report on it and you all know it.
Correct. Leave the rich to suffer…
Crushing ...
Which means u must gain wealth in life rather than complaining about it
@@jonemery8324 ..🤣
People love complaining about other people's success instead of actually going out and making money
I find it mind-blowing that people see the Titanic as a tourist destination. It was a huge tragedy, and I find it very desrespectfull to treat it this way
Auschwitz is a tourist destination
It's ok they paid the Price of Admission.
It cost $250,000 each person to get a ride on this submersible. The Wealthy have always been disrespectful to other people.
Is that not more a reflection of your motivations?
We have things like graveyards to memorialize, reminisce, remember....
A perfectly ordinary human response to solemn events.
A lot of places in the world are now tourist destinations due to the horrific historical events that happened there, pearl harbour just a quick example
This is nothing different to that. Us humans will always make something a tourist destination for the money and/or for the history that is attached to it.
Back up plan?
Prayers.
What a fantastic guest to have on
the hatch is bolted on from the outside and is probs shaped so as the pressure increases the seal gets tighter and tighter.
my guess is there has been a power failure and that has stopped everything from working and again just a guess that there are no back ups so once the power goes out they will have sunk to crush depth , one person that has been on it said to surface they pull a lever that drops ballast and lets it float to the surface so if this is true it seems that they havnt done this (as far as we know) so this could be another sign of a power failure.
Damn right . This is the sea !
This is from Roy Public. He wrote it in another video named Missing Titanic Eploration sub
The #1 fact that they lost communication and did not return to the surface given all the various ways to drop ballast, blow ballast tanks etc... leads to a very grim conclusion:
Catastrophic hull failure. Entanglement, power failure, or hull failure. Entanglement would still have communication.
Power failure, and she would have aborted the dive and dropped ballast/blown ballast tanks and returned to the surface.
Hull failure: no communication, no submersible on the surface. (Hull failure can lead to implosion) It is possible that they had an electrical failure over the wreckage and entangled
imagine the sub completely shutting down - no lights, no nothing. Just aimlessly floating on the bottom of the ocean in the quiet, pitch black ocean.
The saddest thing is that a teenager is on board
His dad took him on it.
@@truckerfromreno wait his son is on it too??
@@izzypaynee Yes.
He is a Pakistani
That's not the saddest thing for a teen with his dad.
Uvalde children without their parents is the saddest thing.
Just keeping perspective.
The Titanic is not a tourist destination it's a grave site leave it alone.
Visiting graves is an ordinary thing for folks to do, yes?
Wow the titanic was enormous. Seeing the images of it at the dock with the people standing on it.
I just prayed for a miracle. I think that’s the only hope right now. 🙏🏼
Imagine paying 125k to get lost under the ocean to see a boat
Imagine watching TV and getting fat on the sofa instead.
*$250,000
@@pimplequeen2 ill choose being fat 💯
@@pimplequeen2 least iam fat and alive
@@AC-ju2es
A life without adventure would be a bit bland.
Have you ever done 100mph in a car?
"thats absolutely correct."
No, thats what they tell us
I'm amazed OceanGate still have their website up boasting about their submersible.
Disrespectful to sniff around a tomb...I imagine it will be a very long time this is attempted again...if ever
@@DJ-769 Davy Jones Locker
The titanic isn’t a tourist attraction. It’s a tomb.
You don't condone the visiting of "tombs"?
The titanic should be left alone. Thx to the that took photos of it so we can see it. 😊
@@pimplequeen2 no I don’t condone visiting a tomb 12,500 ft on the ocean floor.
I truly didn't understood this type of vessel:: were there any detectors: communication :sensors which can send signals outside in case of emergency and another reliable communication system which allows people from outside to determine and detect the location of the vessel.
Godspeed prayers for a safe return❤
Imagine sitting on the bottom of the ocean looking out the port hole and seeing the Energizer Bunny passing by beating his drum just as the pilot pulls some Great Value batteries out of the emergency location transmitter.
Reminds of a certain king who sat in his throne and commanded the tides.
Canute did it to prove that you can not command the tides. He knew he couldn't.
Was he just proving that his flattering courtiers were stupid? He knew he couldn't stop the tide.
Or did he actually believe he could, and just embarrassed himself?
HOPEFULLY GOD WILL BLESS THESE POOR SOUL'S AND RETURN THEM TO THERE FAMILY'S 😔🙏
Yes
Just Allah can save them
In front of their destiny and the power of the nature
It's just our creator who can save them
Give a man a fish, it will feed him for a day.
Give a man religion and he'll starve to death praying for a fish.
If they are not found, and die a slow and gruesome death, is that not God's work as well?
If so, is that someone to worship?
Talk to a kid with bone cancer and tell me there is a God....
Bone cancer hurts. Very badly. Unbelievable, endless pain.
God's work....
Enough. Give credit where it's due.
Do you thank God for a doctor spending 16 hours repairing someone's body? For the 12 years they took to enter their profession? The sacrifices made by them?
Give credit Where's its due or you'll soon find all the "mariacles" fading away as people stop doing "God's work" due to lack of credit.
“Their families “
Also that sub imploded
There is no god in this world. No allah no god no jesus no fake salvations or saviors or souls to save... When you die your brain stops working. The person you think you are stops being because the neurons in the brain stop working. That's it that's all.
Putting on a thinking cap- perhaps what happened was since the submersible was certified to descend to a depth of 3500 meters and it was regularly risking going down to 4200 meters to the site of the Titanic final rest, and they say it just arrived at the destination and gave its signal ping sending distress signal shortly thereafter- what unfolded for it was perhaps the high pressures of water breached its shell or the protective tubing and made contact with the electrical circuit shorting it and paralyzing its controls. Even the manual emergency lever controls (assuming it must have had those) for deploying flotation devices got its working mechanism jammed due to high pressure effects of the water and/or deformation of some portions of the shell
The people in the sub must be under a lot of pressure.
I wonder how many people got this pun??
@@loqutisborg5416 We all did, but it's too soon.
How many more conversations with people that have worked on or in the water? We ALL know how deep and dangerous it can be ,,,,, 🙄
I’ve gone swimming in the ocean, realized it’s gross and full of human feces and garbage and sharks and decided never again.
@@Syrupsssss Nah, that was just the local swimming pool you were in. The Ocean's far worse than that.
@@paulkirby2761 😂
He’s a kind man. And if it’s a “tourist destination “ then no other person should be expected to risk their life, nor should millions of dollars of others’ resources and money be spent on a minuscule chance of a rescue at depth. If the tourists and tourist operators expect a rescue attempt, they should have the rescue submersible bought, staffed, and on hand prior to going down, along with several millions dollars in an escrow account to pay for any rescue or search attempt needed. As any trip to those depths is extreme risk. A tourist destination is Yosemite Park or (I’m almost typed San Francisco) Universal Studios. Not Everest (it’s a sad pathetic paid for notch now) or the Titanic.
I can't see them getting out. I don't believe the Titanic should be a tourist attraction it's too dangerous. Especially in a soda can.
I AM A RETIRED DEEP SEA DIVER AND I AGREE WITH RYAN !!! YOU NEED TO PUT SAFETY FIRST ! DEEP WATER IS VERY DANGEROUS
Self indulgence rich people taking huge risks , if a poor family died on dinghy there would be little coverage if any
This story was blowing up way before the identities of the passengers were known.
@@georgehill3087hilarious seeing people make this dumb take on this issue “iF tHeY wEre poOr nOOne WoUlD cArE” yes a lot of people would care. It’s a submarine that’s gone missing with people on it. That’s kind of a big deal.
They should get the guys who done the norď stream pipeline to the rescue, them guys can work at depth.
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That was a few hundred feet.
Not that deep. The rescue facilities are very limited.
Amazing video...i was born in 1964 in craigilea drive.we left scotland i 72.just wondered if you heard of the kellys ir mcnallys.if craigilea drive was still there where would ut run through in comparison to now ty.well done on vid again
As a bipod of the terrestrial variety, I am not at all interested in exploring the ocean deeps or the litter that we humans have sent to its floor. The oceans belong to the fish and we are blessed with people who create and execute safe ways of bringing ocean life to us.
Anyone who mans a submarine or sails the oceans has my undying respect. This tiny module carrying five people to a depth of 12,000 feet is rather like driving a car with no brakes. Humans have gone into space in an effort to benefit mankind but dropping in on a pile of rotting metal is of no real benefit other than bragging rights if one survives.
The submersible has 7 redundant systems to returnbto the surface, 2 of which do not require power. According to a CBS Journalist was on it. Something catastrophic has happened in terms of depressurization. Love to hear James Cameron's opinion. Hoping for a miracle.
I disagree with that number, because if that's true, the design is worse than I thought. How do all redundancies fail all at once? Because if they did, I don't think they tested it properly IMHO. Plus, if it's only tested to go 13000 they should never gone below about 10k, to start within 80% of tolerances.
@@desmondjefferson2127that's the numbers though. It's likely it imploded making the 7 ways to resurface pointless.
Aircraft depressurise. Submarines pressurise
@@desmondjefferson2127possibly from sudden catastrophic failure like an implosion.
Yeah, for all those systems to fail, I'm assuming it imploded. It was a terrible design and decision IMHO.
The redundancies are obviously not there, why no tether, why no locator, why didn't emergency floats work? LOTS of questions on a series of failures they should have planned for. As an engineer i can assure you, the coming lawsuit will take this company down. Everyone on there was lied to about those systems or were fool hardy enough to still go on.
Nothing like a passenger aircraft then with its 100% margin for error and 100% survival record!
Great interview. They cant take the hatch off as its bolted from the outside.
That mini sub was crushed like a beer can
Why didn’t Mike ask him how long does it take our subs to get from Faslane to the Titanic site? Considering the survivors, if any, have 2 days of oxygen left.
Depending on where the asset was that is to be tasked it could be hours or days, but its a waste of time. Military submarines are either SSN (sub killers) or SSBN (Trident boats). They are not designed to find small submersibles and recover them. Better to use maritime patrol aircraft to search large areas on the sea surface if it’s a float, and high def. sonars such as side scan/mine detection sonars for undersea. Military ships and submarine sonars are made for and tuned to find other military vessels using sensitive passive or active sonars, so again would find it difficult to detect a small tin can.
What would be the point. Submarines can only go down a few hundred metres. They would be of no help what so ever.
@@stephenribchester2185 Correct. I heard there is currently only one operational submersible capable of reaching the Titanic. And it's the one that's lost!
I guess that means that the subs James Cameron and Bob Ballard used are no longer in service.
Our subs can't dive to that depth.
The people that DIED on the Titanic 🚢 doesn't even want to be on the TITANIC SMH
-Side note: This morning I woke up inside of my house inside of my bed 🛏️ and I could not help but think about if I had waking up inside of that submarine and what it would feel like to wake up yet another day under the water 💦 and complete panic set in... We're under there I would hope to be dead by now the anxiety of just the situation is enough to kill someone
Great 😃 points my boy!!
And waking up to find the Left are focusing on their own Egos, their obsession with other people's success, their Narcissist Envy and their media-indoctrinated Bigotry towards other people's backgrounds.
Such a pity Woke Narcissists have Zero Self-Awareness.
They'd be ashamed of themselves if they had genuine Empathy, rather than the 'Performative Empathy' Narcissists do.
Who knows! The titanic took 75 years to discover , maybe someone will discover the remains of the mini sub in 75 years.
To this day my best friend is still out there in the sea. Rip buddy until we meet again I need you now more then ever 😣
Please guys be careful in the ocean
That is a tragedy. By everyone’s logic Normandy beach shouldn’t be a tourist or historical spot because of all the men who died there, or the former site of the twin towers etc etc. People go on these excursions to learn about the tragedy so that those who lost their lives will not be forgotten and so that we can enhance our knowledge to ensure that these things may never happen again. I hope some miracle has kept them alive.
People don’t need to be “rescued” if they visit that beach. It certainly doesn’t have almost 15000psi surrounding the area. And there’s nothing to learn from a tourist’s perspective that hasn’t already been learned.
@@burmesepython393 I never explicitly called them tourists. Some on board may have been historians. Either way I highly doubt these people would pay such large sums of money and take such a huge risk just to disrespect the site.
Sadly you are wrong. Just as an example to dive on the Titanic is a cost most of us could never afford making it a millionaire or billionaires destination. And what do you expect to learn from a well documented sea wreck that is comparable, in any way, to your example of Normandy Beach where fighting for a freedom too many young mens blood soaked that sand.
Or the twin towers where heroism lived in the sacrifice of so many lives equivalent to the disaster of Pearl Harbor that brought the US into WW2..
No this is just another sea tragedy.
It really was only time till the Titanic’s ghosts leaned out and claimed more lives.
It’s a grave site. Please let’s stop the tourism and leave the 1500 souls to their eternal rest.
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This venture was an accident waiting to happen. Now the US & Canada have to spend enormous resources, putting other men and women in danger, looking for these overprivileged buffoons. Once again, a story of rich people only thinking of themselves.
Now exactly WHAT new information is to be learned from a manned expedition to the Titanic that the other remote subs haven't been able to expound upon ?
They can't open the hatch though can they? It was bolted from the outside.
Oh. The sub opened up alright. Just by accident.
even if they could, at 12,000ft down, it wouldn't be a good idea
@@Lucylava It would be impossible to open the hatch at that depth. Pressure is too high.
@@Lucylava ...obviously meaning if they were floating on the surface!
@@Luke73195 yes i am aware of that thanks
In 1960, a US Navy submersible went to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, a depth of 36, 037 feet.
These people could still be alive, but very unlikely
Something to be said bout being poor, I couldn’t afford to die in that sub.
I'm confused the mission went wrong to see a ship that went wrong ?
Only the laws of the sea
GPS?? Emergency beacon?
Somebody wanted the billionaire unalive?
God bless them and keep them!!!
They should get posthumous Darwin Awards
Especially the guy who said "Christ it's stuffy in here, I;ll open a window...".
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That's usually how most Darwin Awards are awarded
This guy knows nothing. The sub is controllable and does have a way to resurface without power. That took 5 minutes of research to find out. One of 3 things happened: water breached the vessel and they are dead, they became stuck in something like a ghost net, or they are already resurfaced and waiting to be rescued.
99% died on the way down. Imploded and now just carbon fiber bits floating around.
All it takes is a moments inattention or a pin hole leak. Yet the designers say they have redundant systems and locators. Well, when you take the lowest bid.....
Just imagine being stuck on the bottom of that deep ocean floor next to the titanic?
Its cold, its pitch black, lonely, and you'll starve of oxygen within a couple of days.
That's a terrifying shituation! 😱
Why on earth someone would pay£200k to risk their lives visiting a wreck in a toy sub is beyond me, some folk have too much money.
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Most folks have something they like to splash their spare cash on.
Having nothing of the like would be "beyond me".
They certainly did!
@@pimplequeen2low risk activities are more desirable for preservation of your life and possession of your hard earned wealth lol. I would rather be on a yacht than on the bottom of the ocean .
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That's "your" preference... Not all risk-rewards sum the same.
@@pimplequeen2 indeed
Submarines shouldn't have a window especially at that depth
So true I heard from one experienced submersible diver you have to respect the north Atlantic ocean it's not for the faint hearted this submersible diver with many year's of underwater dives to the r.m.s titanic on one dive he felt the sub being pushed by underwater currents speeding up the submersible towards the rear titanic s propeller's n the sub was stuck for a while .... As for the titan sub it's a experimental sub as oceangate said on BBC news ...... Lately titanic has been treated like a tourist attraction rather than be left alone to rest .... Visit by all means but don't treat the north Atlantic ocean like what the heck I can beat the ocean wrong the north Atlantic is a dangerous ocean n needs to be respected with utmost care .... And respect .... Let's hope the titan is found soon I pray for safe return of all 5 on board titan after this I hope lessons can be learned from this treat the titanic with respect 🙏 n leave alone
Surely the sub would have an emergency EPIRB that automatically deploys if the sub loses power ,I mean that's just common sense ? Also if the sub did have metal fatigue and crushed wouldn't the sonar pick that sound up ? Assuming the surface vessel was monitoring sonar which again would be common sense?
Blows my mind how someone willingly gets in something like that? And pays $250k for it?
What blows my mind is the billionaires didn’t hire deep sea engineers to do some due diligence and ultimately tell them this is a huge risk to their life.
The amount of oxygen means absolutely nothing when the vessel is crushed, imploded under 12,500 feet of water.
In a humorous flip of events, it will be the crabs and lobsters feasting on the wealthy 😂
in the XVII century, lobster was a poor man’s food
@@j_bailey11So what . Who cares what people did hundreds of years ago. The history of seafood is irrelevant to the OPs topic.
I for one find this situation endlessly hilarious. Just bored billionaires with more money than sense. I hope all that money is helping them right now.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Richard_Cranium it actually does relate to food, maybe you didn’t pick up on that. Let me explain, last sentence about crabs and lobsters feasting on the wealthy. The op points out that, it’s usually the wealthier bracket of society that enjoys seafood.
I decided to share a fun fact I learned recently about the diet of average folk in the XVII century. Not so long ago the poorest of the poor would substitute read meat with lobster. I find it kind of funny considering the contemporary status that crustaceans have as a food.
Anyway, you don’t have to agree with me, there’s enough room for both relevant and irrelevant comments.
They say its difficult to reach at the depth of ocean or sea floor than reaching moon, Consider that moon is approx 300000 km away from us... Hope they will get rescued😢😢😢
The billionaire guy on board probably realized now that his money cannot do anything to save him now.
People do risky things all the time; take Mount Everest climbers. There are known risks ahead of time. Although I'm sorry for this to happened the odds are not always favourable. I don't really understand tourism here; it seems to be just bragging rights but at a price; sometimes not good.
Yes; however Everest climbers train, have supplies and knowledge about what could go wrong and do their best to plan for those things. Is it extreme? -- for sure. But the group on this expedition took a drink, a sandwich and their phones (based on what I have read). I am perplexed as to what I am reading about the situation and asking myself if it's true. I feel so anxious for those involved and their families, friends & colleagues.
There are those willing to play Russian Roulette with a part loaded gun if the stakes are high enough. Very few win.
There needs to be a limit on extreme tourism. Yes they paid with their own money, but expect the navies/governments of several countries to be on standby for when it becomes a shitshow.
Who told you what they "expected"?
Unless it was designed to be compatible with Navy deep diving equipment, that would be a waste of time and taxes.
how about those in the Navy are funded by our tax dollars which makes them our Servants. if someone needs help of this magnitude then they should receive the help they need. if those participating in the recovery fail to rescue these people then they should be fired for incompetence.
OMG! They just bought their own coffins worth 250K.