“It Looks Like A Death Trap” Former Royal Navy Commander On Missing Titanic Tourist Submersible
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- Rescue teams are continuing the search for a submersible tourist vessel which went missing during a voyage to the Titanic shipwreck with a British billionaire among the five people aboard.
TalkTV’s Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by former Royal Navy commander Rear Admiral Dr Chris Parry CBE to discuss the story.
Dr Parry says the missing submersible “looks like a death trap”, adding: "The situation is pretty dire... I'm afraid to say, the risk was stacked when they went under the water."
#titanic #submarine #talktv #talkradio
Do you think they will find the vessel?
No,
How the hell do I know?
Absolutely not.
I wonder, if it did implode on the way down, would it sink altogether or would it break into pieces and float back up?
It seems they had an issue early on and, sadly, they may have already perished.
May take 70 years
When I was in Army helicopter flight school, we had a student who had once been a submariner.. I asked him one time why he left submarines- I thought their duty was pretty good.. He said, "What goes up, always comes down but what goes down doesn't always come up.."
That's deep.
@@zapfanzapfan too soon
Kinda gives you a sinking feeling...
That's a bit of a downer.
What the.. I would never ever want to be on a sun.. they have it the worst! They have to share racks
She never stops talking , just needed a photo of the commander .
My thoughts exactly.... she asks and answers her own questions without taking a breath...
😂😂
She came across as very clued in ,articulate and intelligent .Women are always getting bullied and picked on .The naval gentleman made his position clear .He wouldn't have risked it in that submersible , obvious that it was about peole with more money than common sense paying a heartstopping price . Can't believe the mother of the teenager was in agreement with the decision to put his life at risk ,going down 12,000 ft underwater .It's worse than a Stephen King but God grant they may yet return
😂😂😂😂 this is the funniest comment EVER on this topic.
Funniest comment I've read all 2023
This guy knows his stuff and it was a real reality check listening to him.
6:43 is proof of this
True. That’s why I found it irritating that the interviewer talks so much. She should just ask the expert a succinct question and then shut up and let him answer.
@@cherylnielson4710thought it was just me. Ugh she drones on and on
This is why I as an American rely on. British reporting
Ironic he is exactly the type the Ocean Gate CEO said he didnt want to hire.
The mind boggles at the thought of being cramped into a tin can no bigger than a van, 2.5 miles deep, and they have no idea whether its capable of doing those depths is INSANE
And having to sit Indian style for 10.5 hours crouched over.
I like how she answers all the questions herself rather then actually listening to the Navy Expert
She really does, doesn't she?!
She likes the sound of her own voice apparently
I'm a fan of JHB generally....but yes she goes on too much - her questions are too long !!!
We she did go scuba diving that one time…
Yes she never shuts up!
As a father myself i can't imagine how that dad who brought his teenage son along is feeling inside right now, the feeling of guilt would just rip me apart, i just pray they are found alive.
He doesn't feel a thing all dead
Yes, as soon as I heard her say there's a teenage boy on board, i thought what kind of a parent would risk the life of their child on such a lunatic adventure. If the adults make that decision for themselves, then they take that risk, fair enough - but to drag your young son into it, that is unbelievably reckless, and tragic.
Also, people willing to pay $250k to go into a submarine and see an irrelevant 100 year old ship wrecks probably doesn't mitigate risks, or they probably wouldn't have been there
@@blackie8306 Bored rich people.
There are a lot of things we know not of living down there.big risk going there .should have a cord attached to it
It's hard to believe, but this is an incredible story that sounds like it came straight out of a science fiction novel. Imagine an experimental submarine embarking on a daring mission to explore the Titanic, reaching an astonishing depth of 12,500 feet. What's even more mind-boggling is that this so-called cutting-edge vessel is controlled using none other than a PlayStation controller. It's a plotline that seems too fantastical to be true, but this is what happened.
A "cost effective" experimental sub, i.e. as cheap as possible.
I can't understand why a father would risk his😊 son's life ( a son who has only just begun to live) in such a dangerous expedition. Having money can be a curse if the holder isnt wise. My heart goes out to all families concerned
The son is an adult man…
@@oldironsides4107 at 19 he could hardly afford it himself. Also 19 maybe adult in law, but in reality we all know 19 y.o boys are still pretty stupid.
@@DavidNotSolomon his dad is a billionaire he can afford to mummify a hooker every day of his life
Some from that culture think they are invincible sadly
It was an organized disappearance. Those 5 are alive and on shore. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a lot of debts and decided to cash out and disappear same with that family. The step son was at a blink 182 concert he's not concerned at all. You will see pictures of them at the local tavern under new identities
Deeply disturbing. The commander uses these terms, "Micky Mouse experimental vessel, play station controller, typical garden shed arrangement." Why would people take such a dangerous risk? The cost of adrenaline is expensive.
Some human beings dont know how to weigh Risks and Rewards when it comes to certain situations. Its all just Natural Selection at the end of the day, a group of genes were removed from the human genepool.
To be famozs and to find a treasure, realiy show.
This sub has been there before, visiting, viewing etc
Probes rich does not equal wealthy. All billionaires deserve this.
getting in that thing & diving to 3800m is "are you nuts ?? " insane !!!
Please allow the expert, the Ex Navy Admiral to talk! For goodness sake!
As Chris Parry said, finding the sub is literally like a needle in a haystack. Ocean currents may push it off course kilometers from it's origin like a grain of sand floating in the abyss.
I cant believe they were allowed to go down there in that death trap. That was basically a suicide mission from the start. Complete negligence and it sadly cost all if them their lives. Some things aren't meant to be seen and are surely not worth your life. Prayers to the loved ones of the lost. Such a sad sad tragedy.
Amen. The black hole is fascinating to me-all the unknowns after reaching the event horizon tell me I'll speculate about its majesty and mystery from home.
The poor bloke could hardly get a word in.
😂 she won’t stop
I know I just said that she won't shut the hell up
Julia is Navy commander as well didn't you know
If you get an expert to agree to talk to you, for God's sake let him speak! Just like this unfortunate submarine, Julia Hartley-Brewer, you need to come up for air🤨! Radm. Chris Parry CBE has the patience of a saint.
Agreed with you.. she talked more than his guest..as if she knew so much.. boring... fm Malaysia...
Agreed, she clearly knows very little about what she's talking about, like the comment about driving the sub with a joystick, like it's a game, what does she suggest they steer it with!! All minisubs are controlled like that, its what works, let the expert speak!
This is her great failing. She never knows when to shut up
Totally agree 👍 gets on my nerves. Turning off.
He seemed quite competent at getting to the point/crux of the issue very quickly, I don't understand for the life of me why she kept interrupting
Honest, experienced and knowledgable guy. He’s saying what everybody has been thinking.
Thinking why the f*** did they go down in such a stupid little submarine when they could have gone down in the one that James Cameron did
😂😂😂😂
As a parent, I would never ever let my child undertake such a very risky endeavor. If I want to go underwater I will do it alone. Won't tag along my son with me. Too young to die
As a US Navy veteran this is gross incompetence. Not only does it shows the lack of experience, but the false sense of entitlement speaks volumes.
The ocean is unforgiving and at the depth of 12,000 feet, it’s similar to traveling to another planet. Unfortunately, finding them is like a needle in a haystack; and I wouldn’t, under any circumstances, risk US Coast Guard lives to save the vessel. Let this be a warning to other private firms that if you don’t invest the research and technology, it’s a recipe for disaster.
Totally agree. Also we don't need a ton of new regulation and new govt bureaucracy to oversee every experimental product in the future, as the British guy seems to think. Just the failed submersible should make any careless or inexperienced dreamer think twice before imitating the disaster plan.
If that mentality prevailed with the first Wright Bros Flyer, we'd never gotten off the ground.
@@LuvBorderCollies _"Just the failed submersible should make any careless or inexperienced dreamer think twice before imitating the disaster plan."_
Unfortunately, people make the same hopeful speculation about the billionaire inexperienced climbers getting people killed so they can get a selfie at the top of Everest, and yet they still do it. Without enforced regulations, people don't learn.
And it doesn't always apply to these " ham and egg" companies.
Look at the " Challenger" explosion.
So tragic! I need to decompress now.
Those spoiled rich guys figured this was just another Day at the Beach. Except, the scenery turned out to be not quite as good.
What I don’t understand is why would somebody pay $250,000 to go underwater in a submersible that doesn’t have any safety protocols or any safety measures in case something like this would happen which it has so you’re willing to pay that much just to lose your life way to go. This is horrible. It’s a tragedy. I hope there’s some miracle that they can be found.
There aren't even seats for the passengers! Imagine if it made it to the surface and it is just rolling around like a stone polisher. Total nightmare (and great distraction/loosh production).
Because they can! It's that simple. If you can afford it, you'd do it.
This is one of those episodes which reminds us of the soundness of old adages like 'more dollars than sense'. Bye-bye wealthy idiots, now all the rest of us have more than them, plus we can breathe. Yippee!!!!
@@hiramabiff225 I can afford it, but I'd never do this in a million years because it is just plain stupid. Period.
@@harryricochet8134 so you're telling me you've never done something purely because you can?
He has absolutely been able to just do as he likes because he can and he actually launched it internationally intentionally so he could avoid sanctions and the sub. Exposition stopped. Complete negligence and sheer greed.
There’s a huge difference between space tourism and this latest clusterfk. Space programs have armies of top experts trying to ensure safety. This submersible company fired the only guy who seemed to give a crap about safety. There were any number of easily foreseeable risks in this thing. The CEO guy reminds me of the Theranos woman who glibly spewed BS in order to fill people with unwarranted confidence. There are people who think they can manifest safety if they wish hard enough. The Sub Brief channel laid out a lot of the technical risks, but I think there’s a big concern that this little thing had zero redundancy and made rookie mistakes like using off-the-shelf electronics with seemingly no provision for making them fire-safe at these pressures and oxygen concentration. With no way to ventilate smoke, even a tiny fire would kill everybody.
both risky, challenger in 86 and so on..These guys know the risks are huge but people continue to attempt Everest and will continue trips to Titanic rust bucket...
Guess this guy never heard of the Apollo 1, Apollo 13, Space Shuttle Challenger, and Space Shuttle Columbia disasters. All the experts in the world mean nothing if there all arrogant pricks.
Boy, she loves the sound of her own voice! Ask a question, shut up and let the guest talk.
I couldn't agree more - she's terribly arrogant in not allowing the expert to speak!
She has a short span of time to throw in those questions it's not down to her how long the interview goes on for that's why she has to ask alot
@Blvckcauldron She wasn't asking a lot. She was talking a lot! Better and shorter questions puts the onus on the guest to reply with their opinions, utilising the short interview time better.
Straight from an experts mouth
“It’s an absolute death trap I wouldn’t go in it”
Enough said.
Its more difficult to go deep in the ocean than it is to go up in space
The son on board is 19 for those wondering. If they're still alive, I'm sure the father is wrecked with guilt, as a parent I cant even imagine. It sounds like there was a lot on negligence by OceanGate. They had even recieved a letter by experts on submersible vehicles, The Manned Underwater Vehicles Committee of the Marine Technological Society in 2018, warning Stockton Rush (CEO) "of the potential for catastrophic problems with the Titan submersible and its planned mission to the Titanic." The sub has had multiple problems/ malfunctions previously as well. David Pogue (CBS reporter who went on the Titan) said that the transmitters ping the location every 15 mins, but they're connected to the sub's power source! So in the event of a power failure there's no transmission ping, careless when there are battery operated ones available. It seems there's a lot more they could've done to protect the passengers' lives. Praying for a miracle and for comfort to their family and friends.
They lost contact 2 hours in and the descent of 12,500 feet was 2.5 hours, so it was way the hell down there under up to 400 times the water pressures found near the surface. Sounds like an instantaneous implosion.
Omg that scares me and I’m in my kitchen
This news report is much more of a reality check compared to everything I’ve seen on US television. I would be consider a risk taker by a lot of people because I’m a scuba diver, ride a motorcycles and fly a paramotor, but I wouldn’t go on a submersible like that. The only submarine I’d go on is a U.S. Navy submarine that’s maintained by the Navy.
Thresher- Scorpion
@@timlewis9873 The last submarine lost without explanation was 55 years ago and technology has come a long way since then. The inspections, maintenance and repair on a U.S. Navy submarine is intense because they know they can’t afford to lose seaman and extremely sophisticated and expensive assets.
Unfortunately, the submersible apparently had known equipment issues. Regardless, I hope everyone is found safe and healthy.
Royal Navy also good.
@@darkgalaxy5548 True!
the news anchor and guest are overly critical with comments on regulation and how crazy these ppl are. No. as long as there are ppl there will be desire. issues and mistakes can happen. the submarine in question went deeper than the titanic in the past and had been to the depths many many times before. accidents can and will happen even in regulated industries. to say this machine is controlled by a gaming joy stick is false reporting. are we banning bunjie jumping or ppl crossing oceans in sailboats? leave ppl to discover, invent and conquer. for some of us this is what they live for.
This was the best coverage I've seen, including all the major networks here in the US, of this tragedy. The reporter was outstanding, walking the line between facts and empathy. 🏆
she got to the point.
American Media is dominated by leftist regime sycophants. Propaganda is an understatement
Omg, I thought she was awful, she talked more than her expert.
A stuttering mess is outstanding? Btw I doubt they had poop bags and a separate room to store it if they are still alive. What a epic failure on their companies fault and the fact that they got billionaires on there shows you don’t have to be intelligent to be a billionaire.
@@jemez_mtnagreed. There were a few times I wanted to say, “shut up and let him talk”
The fact that not even one distress signal was sent, means that the event was catastrophic. At this point it has been almost 61 hours with no sign of the sub, which means it probably was destroyed by the event.
Probably right and the way Carbon fiber shatters there likley wont be much more than the end caps and a few titanium rings left to find
Yeah most likely a breach in the submarine and they all died from the pressure. Or the power completely went out.
I didn’t realise there was a parent and child on board. No matter how old the child is the parent would be suffering more with the child dying with him, than he would have dying on his own. I feel so much for all of them, but as a parent myself I feel extra pain for the parent on board.
He’s 19
@@georgia4407definitely all billionaires
Ya 😞 my thoughts exactly. Just horrific.
What's horrific is that the father thought it was worth paying 200k to risk his son's life.
@@billhawkins192maybe the son insisted on going
Quite the voice of hope and calm, from the Navy Commander..."IT'S AN ABSOLUTE DEATH TRAP!!!"
probably correct though
atleast he is keeping it real.
Highly knowledgeable and seriously realistic....unfortunately 😢
A realist. I would be happy to sail with him in charge.
Truth is often too painful to hear.
They lost communication on the way down. My best guess is, there was a hull breach, and all five of those souls are on the bottom of the ocean. It was pure insanity to send that “sub” down to the bottom of the ocean, so many red flags.
We've gone from unsinkable, to submersible.
God be with these adventurers.
I appreciate that Chris Parry has stated the bleedin Obvious! As a former submariner, we all knew the risks, loss of communications indicates a catastrophic chain of events. No distress signal, loss of comms, you cant sugar coat this, its goodnight Vienna for these voyeuristic tourists.
Have you seen how bad that rig is? Absolutely, jerry-built, so it is.
Verifying what I'm thinking. Sad that a teenager was on board.
@@scotbotvideos Jerry built is an understatement, those glass bottomed submersibles you get in Spain are built better for only 20 feet dive depth.
I imagine that it’s already too late, the submersible has probably broken up. RIP to all.
@@freelyfarmexploits8854 I am not a Submariner, but my father was a former US Naval officer and scientist! Dad helped build the very first Atomic Reactors for submarines in the 1960's! Westinghouse Corporation/ Admiral Rickover's program. Dad wore a RADIATION BADGE to work every single day! Even as a little child , I knew that submarines were something that could have issues! I clearly remember when the USS Thresher went down on her Sea Trials! Dad and his fellow workers were very concerned about that incident. 129 sailors perished in that disaster! Those were scary times! 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis also stands out in my mind! Like going under my school desk would actually help ! We even wore Dog Tags! 🤔🤯🤯🤯⚓🌅⛵🌅🇩🇪🇨🇭🇺🇲💙💙💙💙
Julia. What's the point of getting an expert on- then doing most of the yakking yourself?
She wouldn't shut up! She kept blabbing all over the place, you could tell he was growing frustrated. I just wanted to hear what he had to say about his experiences with depth/pressure/etc.
SHE. WOULDN'T. SHUT. UP!
Women like to talk... especially as they get older...some might say 😁🤪
So True! Doesn't she just go on and on and on.....
@@sherbournesubwaymess I know!! Poor guy - such an expert and couldn't get a word in with that woman! So patient of him...
@@retiredbore378 Transmit Mode Only!🤣That's perfect for her!!
She really needs to let him speak more. He is the one we want to hear.
If they Survived after all of this, that will be the Greatest Miracle that has ever happened... 🤞
CANT PEOPLE JUST LET THE TITANIC REST. SHOW SOME RESPECT ❤
Stupid comment
People looking for trouble
@Jackie-ji2sj - I agree. It's a graveyard fer chrissake, and these wealthy idiots are just voyeurs. Jeez.
It should be assigned as a grave and only be visited for scientific reasons.
@@chedz3409 PLENTY OF TIME FOR RESTING WHEN IM DEAD.... UNTIL THEN, I SHALL TAKE GREAT PLEASURE IN ANNOYING YOU ❤️
This is a fine example of greed and morbidity ‼️. Let the Titanic R.I.P ‼️
You went to special education and it shows
@@N3therWolf Small-minded ableist bigot
Greed
Hubris.
@@deniseclaeys8295 Perhaps make sure you use a word in it's proper context Hubris is a 1980 phrase
I have a funny feeling that, once this is all said and done, countries will end up coming together to make some sort of treaty or something which will ban any further civilian trips down to explore the titanic wreckage. Countries aren’t going to want to put their people in danger for rescue missions especially given the lack of expertise on deep dives such as this.
This should never be done again. It should be outlawed. We know what the Titanic looks like now - we have pictures of it lying in its grave. There is no reason for anyone to go.
The shape of this thing is also concerning. To be able to safely withstand the pressures, you would need a spherical shape made from titanium. They claim it was made from carbon fiber and had went down to that depth a few times before, but it could have gotten stress cracks on the previous trips.
Yes what an odd shape
Yes I agree most of these deep submersibles are like a sphere or oval and the fact U can't open it from inside is disturbing.
I strongly suspect what you said is exactly what happened. The structural integrity kept getting worse until it finally imploded. 😢
I would never spend $250,000 to go two miles deep into the ocean. In fact.... I wouldn't do it if someone offered to pay me the same amount to do it.
you will never get that money and nobody will ever give you. Relax.
Many ppl miss the point here. They dont pay this for the experience. They did this for bragging rights at there rich partys. Until God's intervention.
@@hydrohasspoken6227 Unless you are Jared Kushner! Saudi Arabia had no problems giving "Slenderman" 2 BILLION dollars! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🇩🇪🇨🇭🇺🇲💙💙💙💙💙
Not knowing they are bolted in. Even if they surface that Hatch has to be opened in time. They could come up anywhere.
Indeed. You could do that with a stove chained around your neck using a tinny with an outboard as a command vessel for far less financial investment lol
As the navy man said it was not certified to dive to those depths.
Odds on it will have imploded (“instantly”) and so fast the passengers would never had time for their brains to process what was about to happen.
Like the Byford Dolphin disaster?
You are 100% correct - 4000m depth = 5,800 psi.
While it limits maneuverability a little bit, the safest configuration for a deep diving submersible is a tethered craft where communications is never lost and exact location/depth is always known. The craft can be lifted back up in emergency situations short of a complete hull breach. Even with a tether, the craft can still control course and depth with thrusters. The submersibles used by previous explorers like the ones that located Titanic would cost billions in today's market. Roomy, thick titanium hulls, access hatches that were not bolted on and most importantly redundant state of the art navigation, environmental, communications, propulsion equipment. This should never be some tourist money-making game. I heard a sub expert today say that the carbon fiber main hull of the craft (never before used for something like this), if it would fail, would not simply crack but shatter. If that happened at least it would all be over quickly. He was aghast that a bluetooth controller would be used. Controls should be hard wired and redundant.
So true. There had to be a safer way, black box type tracking would have been good.
blue tooth?? really??? omg
The story of the Titanic will never die, even when it disintegrates, even at the bottom of the ocean it is still as expensive as it was at the beginning.
That's a final resting place for many people, it's kind of grotesque that people rich enough to afford to go on this boat would spend their money to see a watery grave.
💯 they’re treating a mass grave as a zoo, something to pay to see. It’s weird af
Your comment is grotesque
@@hakz795
If you consider a mere comment as grotesque then you should also feel the same way about this commercial, gravesite tourism. Now a handful of silly ppl with too much disposable money and not enough fear of risk will likely inherit a watery grave themselves.
I wonder if ppl will pay to tour the wreck of the sub?
@@hakz795 no, your comment is grotesque. why would anyone want to desecrate a grave?
@@justaregularguy115 Wonder if there will be a movie.
Leave the Titanic alone it's sacred ground. You can see the grave from land on a computer screen no need for dangerous dives.
ughh, what a silly whet know-it-all thing to say
Exactly my thoughts 💭
Too much money not enough sense
@@clareowens2597 jealous
We have grave sites on land. People bury and visit their loved ones on them every day. Or should we not do that, as gravesites are "sacred"?
Come on now. Sacredness and peace has nothing to do with it, the dead don't care who goes down there. It's a sunken ship, which unfortunately took over 1000 lives with it to the bottom of the sea. Nothing more, nothing less.
I agree; the loss of the Titanic is not really within "living memory", but there will still be people alive who lost eg great-grandparents on her. In that context, it's too early for "Titanic tourism" to be appropriate.
Billionaires don’t get rich by being nice. They get rich by deception fraud bullying corruption etc.
he chose his path. Let him find his own way out .
I can't believe that intelligent people would go anywhere near this thing. If other reports are correct it has no safety gear and is simply a catastrophe waiting to happen. I also question whether a punter signing a waiver relieves the operator of the obligation to provide a vessel fit for purpose , including basic transponder/location equipment.
This story just got even sadder when I found out there's a kid on board. At least he's with his dad, but also what kind of parent takes their child on such a dangerous trip? So sad.
A millionaire sadly
The "CHILD" is an adult
@Rise 876 - What kind of parent(s) takes a child on such a dangerous trip? You need not look any further than the very ones from Muslim third world countries who traverse on the open seas to reach Europe only because their god can't provide for them.
Probably the kid's idea. Something to post for IG sadly
I don't think he forced him, it must have been his choice? We all make choices every day.
Remarkable, she finds it impossible to ask a question.
She's the boss. Don't cross her!
...or let the interviewee talk.
Great analysis & reporting thank you !!
It’s often said that safety rules are written in blood. And it’s heartbreaking that this is what it takes mandate the proper regulations.
I think maybe to lose contact so suddenly, the vessel suffered a structural failure and imploded. There is likely nothing left to find.
Its eerie. The voices and arms of the dead reaching out, pulling them down, imploring: 'come and see, come and see...
That’s too sensational you’re hilarious
🤣 I can't tell if you joking or serious but that's hilarious either way.
😂 I would like to think that those spirits who have been through it would want to lend a hand and help.
I don't care how the son is! It's very, very sad that he was in this dangerous situation! As a mother I would be so devastated!
She is😢
I'm taking the wild guess: the minute the contact was lost, vessel had imploded, it plunged into the Titanic wreck, and "the banging" that was registered was the decks of the wreck collapsing on the imploded submersible...
Being serious now, nothing on that sub was properly tested and certified for those depths, so that fact alone constitutes possible catastrophic hull failure.
To be candid, it is imperative to acknowledge that the sole conceivable means of rescuing these individuals would be their resurfacing. Should they remain submerged at the ocean's depths, their fate is sealed. The task of locating them alone poses a formidable challenge, let alone devising a viable method for their retrieval upon discovery.
Are you having a laugh, mate?
Sadly, you are correct.
They are bolted in. The small sub is sealed from the outside with bolts. So they need to be freed out of it and even if it is adrift on the surface somewhere, unless they find it in time, the people inside will suffocate anyway :(
Very true
How many YEARS have they been looking for Malaysian MH17 now ?
@@johnnyhock ……none, because MH17 was blasted to smithereens by a BUK missile over the Ukraine in July 2014.
You mean MH370 which disappeared on a flight Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on 8-3-2014……
How the hell can they not have a distress beacon? That seems like an extremely obvious piece of safety equipment.
@Retired Bore what about a detachable buoyant beacon? may not end up on the surface exactly where the sub is but it’ll help search crews pinpoint their location a hell of a lot easier
Radio signals do NOT work underwater, that's why subs have to surface or raise telescope aerial above surface to use radio.
@Retired Bore So many submarine experts all over the place all of a sudden!
@@markhinton1641 Wait: do you mean to tell me that all these fools who became submarine experts thirty minutes ago do not have a clue about the subject?
@Retired Bore underwater transponders have already been invented.
dont forget how cold the water is. if the sub has lost power, they are all freezing.
The moral of the story is this: leave the Titanic alone. It's a graveyard and the site of a tragedy, it's not a tourist attraction. People didn't pay attention back in 1912. People still aren't paying attention today.
Well said! Standing ovation! 💯💯 Can’t understand why people can just leave the damn wreck alone. It’s the final resting place for so many innocent lives, let them rest in peace. Plus it’s also such a fragile wreck, all this human interaction, lights, movement will make the wreck disappear faster! Leave it alone!😡
@@blackgirlsrock264 I agree. It was arrogance and ignorance which cost people their lives back in 1912, and the same thing is happening here. Well now they're going to experience first hand what those people went through 111 years ago. A terrifying, dark and watery grave at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. I hope their disrespect was worth it.
Suddenly losing all contact on the way down, no distress beacon, sounds like it could be failure of the oxygen supply, all onboard going into a state of unconsciousness, hence no response for help,and then suffering anoxia.
The fact that the operating company had no suitable rescue vehicle in case of emergency, absolute madness to consider taking tourists to that depth under those circumstances.
Most likely cause, catastrophic hull breach. Death near instantaneous.
Hull collapsed.
That doesn't make sense, it's a sealed pressure vessel so if you did start running out of oxygen you'd feel the familiar feeling of Co2 buildup and your body would naturally alert you that you're not getting enough oxygen. You'd have time to communicate that. You're thinking of Hypoxia when there's a pressure leak for example in a high altitude flight and the Co2 is able to escape.
@@azzifyy5988
That's a fair comment, I was thinking of a scenario where they would be immobilised by lack of oxygen.
I know a similar scenario has happened in pressurised aircraft.
That would have bumped the price up to $ 500,000 per ticket.
Beginning to look more and more like a recovery than a rescue.
I doubt they can ever find it, or bits of what's left.
@@todddanforth8853And they found the bits
@@todddanforth8853 Not much to recover. And certainly no bodies.
I just logged onto this episode a short time after the USCG announced that the Titan diving chamber imploded. This expert hit it on the head as to the demise. Condolences to the lost crew and passengers.
A death trap is exactly what it is.
They rushed this technology, just like the Titanic was rushed out to Sea.
How horrific, I hope they can be found and saved.
Lol how can they be saved if found Minus Hollywood style and camera tricks
Why? Buch of rich assholes, fuck em.
@@Nick-jl4eh
If they made it to the surface, there is a chance that they will be found before they run out of oxygen (this thing can only be opened from outside, so it would still be a race against time).
Totally impossible
Simple a math question
The kursk was only a few hundred feet under water and none of the crew was ever rescued even though international help was brought in and they was heard knocking on the hull for days until their oxygen ran out and they all died . They are not going to rescue these ppl impossible they are or will be dead . The sub has automatic weights that lift off after 24 hours and it automatically resurfaces. It looks like a catastrophic implosion at massive high pressures, they would have been dead before their brain 🧠 even got pain signals sent to it , it would be that quick and their will be nothing left of their bodies to recover FACT 👍
Some people like to take risks. It's up to them. Climbing everest, Crossing the Arctic, Antarctic. Cave diving, skydiving, free diving, base jumping, the list is endless.
Up to them, except when other people have to risk their lives to rescue them when things go wrong.
I totally agree some ppl thrive off of taking risks
@@trishaharding4682 They don't "have to" rescue them. It's a voluntary act of charity.
RE: free diving and including that in the same category as cave diving and base jumping: I'd argue that they are not comparable as to risk level. I would make the argument that free diving is generally safer than breathing compressed air (scuba) as far as risk of DCS. I will grant that no-limits and similar disciplines are extremely risky and that would land in that risky realm. Free diving in general however, akin to what accredited dive agencies will train for, is relatively safe in comparison to sports like base jumping.
To your point: "Some people like to take risks" I think you are spot on, no disagreement there. It is how you manage the risks that makes a difference. Compare Red Bull flying competitions to commercial flight. and no-limits free "diving" to regular free diving disciplines.
This is a sad situation, to your point it is up to them to take that risk. It is also worth remembering (to the other responses to your comment here) that most, if not all, safety regulations are written in blood, so to speak. That is to say: the rules are written after the fact based on accidents and human loss. That goes for almost any industry and most contact sports. Whether or not that is morally acceptable is a separate and important discussion.
It should then be "up to us" if we rescue them or not then.
I bet it's costing billions $
It’s really great that the host allows the guests to talk
This is a grave site, a tragic one. Tours like this should not be available, we should respect those who have died.
What about 9/11 ground zero should that be banned
Disagree, have visited both the Normandy beaches and Gettysburg, as long as you pay the proper respect no where should be off limits.
@@rickrollins6640 Yeah I think it is ok just because a few die. Last thing we need is regulation(s)......
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I guess you're also against visiting Egypt.
Or any cemetery. Though many (if not all of them) are meant to be visited in the first place, but WHATEVER !
Rich people looking for kicks.
imagine them puking and shitting themselves cross-legged in a 5 man coffin, terrifying thought.
This is truly a nightmare. I can't imagine what they are going through. Such a terrible way to die, suffocate in the dark thousands of miles under the cold dark ocean. I hope for a miracle for those poor souls.
Titanic is two miles under the ocean…
Should've charged the controller before playing subnautical
Well played sir, well played!! 🤣😂
I have always felt that the wreck should have been left alone after it's discovery. It's disgraceful that people have been down and removed thousands of items from it and nobody should have been profiting from the disaster.
When it was first found in ‘85 some of the surviving lineage of the deceased got super emotional about it being explored out of concern that for example bodies might be found, & say conceivably bodies of the grandparents or great grandparents. Since then we’ve been told that any corpses would have disintegrated which is generally accepted.
@@John572d4 I dont know about that. Its very cold water and not much life down there. I would think there would at least still be bones in the boots.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW Bacteria allegedly consumes the organic matter quicker than the inorganic such as the iron of the ship, and the ocean life itself also may have.
Haven't you seen the Titanic wreckage photos of pairs of shoes lying side by side atop a featureless sand bottom?
@@JamesOberg Yeah, because the body already disintegrated
"Death Trap" and "Mickey Mouse" was the best analysis of the situation that I've heard.
So horrible, there is no way i would climb into a coffin like that.
It’s just crazy not to have an emergency plan or a backup vessel - not enough lifeboats! It seems history repeats itself
Yes exactly, parallels.
Yeah, to not even have a hooking loop so a rescue/recovery vehicle could attach a cable is just insane.
they should keep a paracord line attached to it and a dedicated sound generating beacon and flashing lights on it. and it should be painted bright pink or yellow not white ffs. Insane.
Especially when the CEO said its the safest place to be on the planet when people were questioning him.
Bringing a teenage son is the worst type of negligence...
Did he ever get a chance to answer a question?
I imploded from holding my breath, as she rambled.
Imploded.. now that's a word choice! 🤐 haha
PRAYING FOR THEM AND THE RESCUERS TEAMS 🙏
We’ve seen the wreckage, it’s been thoroughly explored. Leave it alone. Let it rest in peace along with those who perished.
The sub looks very poor, game controller as a main control source, wtf was they thinking????? All for max profit, leave the titanic alone, leave the jewels down there also, it does not belong to us above the water.......
you have the sentiments of a high schooler
I blame men in black for the controller
@@jaylockwood5030 which is not a bad thing…
The game controller isn't really an issue, back in Iraq and Afghanistan they were used to pilot drones, I would say the bigger issue is taking a submarine down to 4200m when it's only certified for 3000m. How is that legal when you're offering a paid tour service?
@@azzifyy5988The sensitivity and complexity of moving a sub around at those depths does not warrant a playstation controller. A drone crashing or missing a target due to poor flying is not as acute as issues you have with a sub at that depth. But yes even a military made sub would have risks. This one probably isn't military grade. poor souls.
Prayers for all those on board. Hope they are alive and rescued soon.
Nope there dead
They died. Prayer is a delusion.
On another interview with a journalist who has been on the submarine, he explained that the submersible has 7 ways to get up to sea level in case of emergency. However, he also said there is no way for the submarine to be brought up manually. He made it clear that it could not be towed up the way the commander suggested. It may have to do with pressure. I wasn't quite sure why it couldn't be towed up. But if they are not found in time, whether it be oxygen or drinking water, they may not be found alive. I can't imagine a fate like that. Sending prayers for a miracle.
Its obvious its a catastrophic incident
You don't say.
You think it imploded?
@@mickeybowmeister1944 That would be a better death.. than what is possibly happening (if they are all still alive), GOING BONKERS with barely any oxygen. horrifying.
unfortunately,Titanic has more victims
it was ill equipped, to say the very least. The controller was a literal game controller that costs 49 euros.
Taking a child on such a dangerous escapade is pure folly.
A 19 year old is not a child. It's a young man.
He’s 19. His poor mom!
@georgia4407 Yes, you are absolutely right.
@@sunnyscott4876 technically/medically he is, until the age of 25. the male brain, we now know, isn't fully developed until the yr between 27 and 28. And you can bet your bottom dollar that his father makes all his life choices for him.
@@jennibarnes140 Excuses
I love how he gave his honesty....,say what it is
It's rumored that the captain didn't even have a fishing license. He only had one of those cool captains hats that the rich folks wear.
It would have been a better interview if you let the expert have more of a say🤷♂️ you know, the one who was actually in the Navy.
Hard to feel empathy for obscenly wealthy people who make stupid decisions.
The titanic is not a tourist attraction its a grave and needs to be respected
It's easier to rescue people from space than it is from a deep ocean
True
Is it right that the Titanic where 1000+ died is being used as a tourist attraction? It is a grave site and should be treated with respect and left alone.
Would anyone care if it were not tragic?
I believe Indiana Jones put it best. Fortune and glory.
This former Royal Navy Officer is the only interviewee I’ve seen who’s been honest and realistic.
The missing mini sub looks a heap of junk built to poor standards. And used by billionaire tourists who don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Having lots of money and buying a place on a trip doesn’t make you a skilled, qualified and highly experienced “explorer”
It was really rude of her to say "I'm doing a lot better than those 4 men and boy."
The only thing that surprises me is that this hasnt happened before now
The MIR submersibles were far more advanced, even though they were built nearly 40 years ago. There were two of them, made 50+ dives to the Titanic (James Cameron was on 33 of them) and with manipulators managed to attach a massive piece of the Titanic hull that was raised to the surface. Far safer. This Titan sub is indeed Mickey Mouse!
It has happened with lots of submarines.
@@iowanation1034 I meant specifically with this particular rust bucket
How many reports on this can be done with absolutely no news, no idea where it is and no idea what's happened?
Well said, all we get are uneducated fools, the two here eg what on earth are they on about, they wouldn't, they don't understand why people do this stuff, too many negative clowns.
depends how many people they can justify bringing on to talk about it.
MSM can keep this up for days. Later today they will interview a women in Scotland who dog barked at exactly the same time as the air runs out.
Well they did it with Nicola Bully.
They have been reporting on the January 6th riot in America for 2.5 years with no new news.
Once I was aboard a creaky homemade sub that crashed. We all held our breath and swam for the surface. We barely made it.
I got stung by a deepsea jellyfish on the way up.
This is seriously insane! I hope they find them. But this is just messed up!
Personally I don't think they will ever find the thing let alone being able to recover it. It is very dangerous to use submersibles at the best of times.
The green peace submersible was attacked by a giant sea creature when at this kind of depth.
@@Ardass486cap
James Cameron descended to 36 000 feet, deepest point of the ocean, in a brilliantly built rolex submersible - the Deepsea Challenger. The engineering and safety design features it has compared to this sub are like chalk and cheese. I can't understand highly intelligent people crawling into this tube that had one on/off button, a game console, and to lighten the ballast everyone in the sub had to move to one side so the ballast would fall off! Very high tech.
@@ksc743 Absolutely, the vehicle Cameron used is an engineering masterpiece and even then it was considered a dangerous thing to do. From what I saw of the contraption being used in this case for what is essentially a 'tourism experience', it was, to use established engineering parlance, a piece of crap.
However, I would be happy if they do find it,