Elon Musk Won’t Pay His Taxes & Joe Rogan Hates Paternity Leave - Leftovers #6
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My post-partum after giving birth was so bad that I was pretty much non-functional for the first few months of my baby’s life. My husband pretty much had to single parent for the first few months but because there is no paid paternity leave, he had to completely quit his job and we went down to 0 income. If my parents hadn’t been in a place to help us, I don’t know what we would have done. Paid paternity leave is essential.
you go girl! tell em !!!!!
Yes, that's something that I think is overlooked is that the mom needs help. I just had my baby 3 months ago and my husband's company started paid paternity leave a few years ago so he was off work for 2 months. He helped me so much while I adjusted to being a mom. I'm so glad you had your parents support and a husband that understood he needed to be there for you.
@@hollid90 I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for them! And I also wouldn’t be here if they didn’t have the means to help. So many are not as fortunate as me. Paid paternity leave can literally be a life saving thing.
I heard that in America most people only get like 6 weeks maternity leave, some women literally break bones in childbirth, that’s not even enough to recover from a broken bone. It’s like the system needs people to have kids but then punishes both genders for doing it.
I’m from Australia, and hearing all of this is gobsmacking. We have a pretty decent maternity/paternity leave for both parents. Also, there has recently been some attention towards parents who go through paternal grief (ie; miscarriage, stillbirth, etc)
I can’t stop looking at that tall, handsome, big handed man sitting next to Hasan.
Do you mean... Hila Klein's husband??
ooof just wait till you see his fupa 😍
That's Hasan's other shoulder
@@SpoilerAlert__ the fupa adds a whole new dimension to the sexuality.
That hairline makes me giddy
I like how hassan keeps talking even though Ethan keeps interrupting him. He finally learned
Yeeessss lmfao
Lol it’s still so annoying
I hate it.
Hasan needs to be interrupted. This isn't his Twitch, they're co-hosts.
@@ExopMan yesssss.
I’ll never tire of Ethan’s “what would we do without men” impression
where would we be without men 🥺 i value masculinity more than the gay ppl i hate 🤤😍🤪 jordan is a clown ☠️🤣
Me too! 😂
@@cash402 ethans impression of him is more homophobic than anything he’s ever said🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
@@sandpiggreybaby it's meant to be comedic. That's the big difference.
@@sandpiggreybaby how????
Paternity leave also helps the mom. I suffered from post partum depression with my 2 girls. My husband had to take unpaid leave and without him, I don’t know what I would have done.
Not to mention the physical recovery moms going through after birth.
It’s beneficial for everyone in the situation- I just wish that they called this a feminist issue (as it is) instead of pretending “men’s rights” are a thing.
Yup. I didn’t even have postpartum and my husband had around 6 weeks off. I don’t know what I would have done without him home full time for that time. He took such great care of me and our babies. Still does but that time off work was so important for our family.
@@flowermom3507 Seriously! Especially C sections which are becoming more common- it’s *such* an invasive surgery and mothers are expected to just be totally fine right after, up and doing physical work, taking care of a newborn, having sex, and cooking and cleaning and shit. It’s insane to me. Less invasive surgeries regularly has people out of commission for 6+ weeks *without* a newborn on top of all of it!! We absolutely need mandatory maternity and paternity leave. People claim to care about family values and children and shit but somehow do not support leave? Fucking hell. Gets me so worked up, and I don’t even have kids and plan to never do so. So much respect for all of you mothers and fathers out there that made it work, but it makes me so mad that you have to go through it in the first place. A year of leave for both parents would create a much more healthy society and more developed children that can be more productive over their life, there is no downside.
@@MiuXiu All of the issues they've discussed are the major reasons WHY I never had kids. I like kids, I thought when I was young I would have kids, but when I hit adulthood, and looked at the way our society is actively structured AGAINST parenthood, yet demands so much of parents, I just couldn't get the numbers to add up.
Sorry but imagine being a man and against yourself getting paid leave to spend with your newborn child?! Actually so embarrassing
Hopefully the president takes paternity leave in the middle of deescalating a nuclear confrontation. What could go wrong?
What if you’re in charge of a system that is failing and effecting the lowest earners in the US . Fuck them right???
Liberals are delusional and in full on cope mode
@@jaygee5874 you can’t call other people delusional while commenting incoherent sentences under a video you watch just to hate on it lmao
@@jonnyroberts1775 It wasn’t incoherent at all - and adding “lmao” at the end of your comment doesn’t make it so, dummy.
“Workers are not your property, their life is not defined by serving you. There are more important things in life than work” - hell yes Ethan!
Based Ethan
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p no one knows and no one cares.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p
Damn, isn't a bit early for Nazi comparisons?
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Which editor? Because he did.. and they were very civil about it…
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p damn dude movement destroyed bruhhhh. I guess well all go home now, instead of just changing the problems and moving on lul
The way Ethan embraces Shredder coming in to say hello is absolutely bloody gorgeous! A man's best friend -
how did u do those stickers
“huMan’s” best friend.
@@kadynadair592 I think the stickers/emotes are for channel members only
We stan a pet loving king
@@illkissyourightnow ethan identifies as a man
I was in the army during my wife’s entire pregnancy and I missed her giving birth . I wasn’t in my daughters life until she was 3months old. What I would give to get those days off back than!! It makes sick to hear joe say that bullshit. Smdh
I’m so sorry. I was just M-Day nasty guard when my daughter was born and my husband was luckily able to be present during birth. But that was back when the army still had only 2 weeks for paternity leave IF they were home and I struggled deeply with post partum depression. The fathers need to be home longer than what they’re given, if not as long as the mothers. It’s unfair. The 3 weeks y’all have in the army now still aren’t enough.
You’re a good man x
Just be there for the next one
@@fal5174 I got our many years ago but i cant imagine that it has changed much. & the worst part is that there are service members with worse stories than mine :/
@@fal5174 It should be 9 months. That is how long it takes to raise an infant and it takes TWO. no one should have to raise a baby on their own, it's so much work... Every night, multiple times a night, for a year.... jesus... Help is the key to raising a good kid. If you dont give them enough love as a baby, they turn out socially fukd
They get a separate room from the gestational carrier because the babies are patients and they aren’t related to the person who gave birth. Just like if your kid were sick, you can stay with them in their hospital room.
Omg never thought I’d see Mama Doctor Jones comment on an h3 pod!!! I love it!!!
I love your channel.
MDJ! The anti-MTJ! We love you ❤❤❤
Never thought I would have seen you here!! Love your channel!!
I have so many questions
U.S.: "Men shouldn't go on paternity leave, they should be working!"
U.S.: "We will not increase maternity leave for women, they need to be at work the day after giving birth"
Also U.S.: "Birth rates are at an all time low and we don't know why...."
I can hear you lactating from here.
Paternity and Maternity Leave is not for the parents, it's for the CHILD.
I mean, childbirth is a massive difficult thing and your body literally needs to heal, so i also think it kind of benefits the parents.
No it’s just a fun vacation!!! /s
Lol
Its for both because money unfortunately exists
It can also be for the parents tho. It's upsetting that people view work as the most important thing in this country. Like we're machines or some shit
I think it's super rad Hasan touched on making past mistakes about misogynist perspectives. That's setting a great example for impressionable viewers because he's acknowledging that we all make mistakes. The important thing is that we try to learn from them and do better. I think social media perpetuates this "mistakeless" narrative that nobody can fuck up, and that's damaging. I appreciate he's having that conversation.
I love hasan. He's such a good example how your average dude bro can be insightful, and have positive self reflections towards his feelings without being a toxic a55hole. And he is so nice to look at lol. I may have a huge crush on hasan
@@ms.bunniesarecute2287 Lol well, I am still cautious but if he can change a few meatheads' minds, that's worth celebrating.
That's actually why I started watching Hasan daily. His own displays of personal growth are probably one of the biggest ways he can help people still in ignorant mindsets start to see a different perspective. As much as I wish people would just not be assholes and inherently have empathy towards people different to themselves, having an attractive, white-passing cis-het male actively fight against racism, misogyny, and the like is one of the best ways to reach audiences that might not otherwise come across that content and is so important to the cause. Before I watched him I thought he might be a meathead but when I came across him during the JCS crime video era and witnessed him ardently defend minority groups and other progressive persepectives I was like hang on wHAT, and haven't looked back since! Daily watcher now😂
@@_laurenolo_ For sure, it's a good step in the right direction. It couldn't hurt for him to tone down the objectification of women though. I get it, people are hot, but I haven't watched any of his streams since he was considering a woman along the lines of, "She's hot hot, not like Iowa hot,". Seen that language a few times so it'd be cool if he worked on that. Nobody's perfect, I'm not on a cancel campaign, just my two cents. :)
@@Deloria I actually 100% agree with you on that, I think I find it more excusable because he does the exact same thing with hot men (just hot people in general), but across the board it can get a bit much so I see where you are coming from. Unfortunately Twitch chat in general is a just a sea of "MOMMY MILKERS" and "BOOBA" in the chat whenever a woman so much as appears on screen 90% of the time, so when he does see and corrects that kind of behaviour it's a brownie point :)
lol'd at Joe Rogan going "you wanna live in Germany?"
I am German and nothing in this world would make me want to move to the US.
I'm Canadian and I want to move to Germany to get *further* away from the US.
The natural beauty and the fact that all my friends and family live here is the only reason I stick around. (Yes I know there are other countries with similar ecosystems as every state but no place in the world has such a variety in such close proximit)
@@adacskipper i’m a canadian and same. Scared there psychotics are gonna get to us
As a Canadian who live shouting distance from the border....I'm too close to them
When he said that I literally said "yes" lmao. Living in this country and caring about others hurts
Hearing Ethan talk about the importance of being present for raising a kid was really heartwarming for me. It's wonderful to see people chip away at the stigma of being a stay at home father and being a good dad.
0:00 - 2:53 (Intro)
2:54 - 9:39 Ghost Votes Matter Too! (Voter Fraud)
9:40 - 15:54 This Is My Concrete Farm (British Conservatives)
15:55 - 40:54 Bond With My Child? Don't Make Me Sick (Paternity Leave)
40:55 - 43:07 Serious Issue (Conservative Outrage Bait)
43:08 - 54:40 For True Patriots Only (Tucker Carlson Documentary)
54:41 - 1:09:25 Stop Making Me Shoot You! (Charlie Kirk)
1:09:26 - 1:14:06 MemeLord (Don Jr)
1:14:07 - 1:15:11 Welcome To The Metaverse (Facebook)
1:15:12 Progression? Get Back To Work Peasants (Build Back Better Bill)
Bless you drifting cloud
Beautiful segment names💕 you deserve compensation for your hard work
I wish they had costumes lol, watching two grown men talking about politics in costumes would be so good
@@idkbruhimhigh It's not about making fun of vets, more just the boomer conversative man trope that wears outfits like that.
@@idkbruhimhigh It's actually extremely appropriate, and funny, to mock Korean veterans after they killed numerous innocent refugees during the war.
Look up the No Gun Ri Massacre if you want even the slightest bit of context about the atrocities those "Veterans" are responsible for.
Also I'm pretty sure those old fucks will still be fine if someone wears a hat with the words "Korean Veteran" on it.
Wym they’re dressed as clowns
@@davidjames3948 you tell em, Dave. 👍
@@davidjames3948 you get people were drafted though right these veterans had to do it. Blame the system not the people
It is weird that Rogan is blaming the dude on the paternity leave for the truckers issue, but when Ted Cruz took a whole ass vacation while his state froze he said:" what can Ted Cruz do?!"
Edit: for those who try to guess my political alignment, I am not even American to begin with, I don't even know if democrats are left or right...
All I wanted to do was point out Joe's hypocrisy and low-key, high-key, homophobia.
Exactly. Crickets from right wingers regarding Ted Cruz.
It's not weird, that's just what right wingers do. They have no need or care for consistency, they just want to own the libs and make it seem like they're right.
Not weird, that’s their typical MO
Joe Biden is currently president and is currently destroying the country. Crickets from the leftie idiots. Please tell me one thing Biden has done for u. NADA.
Buttiege is literally in charge of transportation for the WHOLE US not just Texas please cope more liberal loser
“WhAt AbOuT MeNs RiGhTs?!”
Gets paternity leave
“Not like that.”
Hasan was so happy he could bust out his Jordan Peterson impression when Ethan did it lmao. Can't blame him
It's actually pretty good! Although everyone's impression of Jordan Peterson is just a _slightly_ modified Kermit the Frog so idk
TIMESTAMPS
2:54 - cringe hog clips
15:55 - joe rogan & paternity leave
43:08 - tucker carlson
54:41 - charlie kirk
1:09:25 - don jr.
1:15:12 - joe bidens bill
1:30:12 - billionaires & taxes
1:38:13 - elon musk
thank you !!!!!!!
Thanks
Thank you!!!!
Fuck thank you man
Thank you.
“ok you wanna live in germany?” like yes tf. the standard of living is so much better there
Rather move to Austria tbh
@@sinthoras1917 fair austria has better public housing
@@sinthoras1917 and vienna is freaking beautiful
Let me just fill in the obligatory "America is so good bro" comment: "buh uh uh Americans pay less taxes BRO, we love having no social security net, having 1 day of annual leave per decade, and not seeing our newborns, also our politicians are super down to earth dudes, they don't wanna tax the minority of billionaires while the middle class wealth is being shifted to the 1%, but they make so many jobs bro and since we've got 1 day of leave per decade we love having those jobs as it's all we do in our lives anyway"
@@dmt472 half of taxes go to the army right off the bat. If elon musk paid more taxes it would be going to aircraft carriers and fighter jets... not hospitals and schools
Mandatory paternity leave is actually a great way to achieve equal opportunities in the job market for all genders. An employer will have less incentive to hire a man over a woman if both get the same time off after a pregnancy. It's a feminist (equal rights) issue, not a mens rights issue.
Great point! 👍 thank you
it can be both a feminist and mens right issue.
@@Wooplot ofcourse, though feminism includes men, it's about equality.
@@luchudepohl6310 Yeah.
SAY IT LOUDER. few people realize that this plays into the wage gap/equal opportunity issue. employers are less likely to hire a woman simply for the fact that they are (mostly) biologically able to have a child and would necessitate maternity leave for it
Watching ethan gain class consciousness live is amazing.
Fr, that anger coming out. I love it.
tfw you find out about class struggle and exploitation for the first time
@@chris.hartliss tfw you're reminded of class struggle thousands of time. tfw is the same
Me too man, it's really a joy to watch for some reason. This is not where I expected Ethan to be at this point but I'm really glad it's where he ended up
It's the best part. He's getting angrier and angrier by every episode
Kinda says a lot where rogan didn’t have a dad growing up trying to tell other dads they don’t need to spend time with their kid, maybe he’d feel differently if he’d got that connection
I'd only want those dads around if they aren't abusive or all around assholes - my dad was abusive and my step dad's an asshole, I don't want them in my life.
@@amaradarkmoon6498 My dad was bipolar and wouldn't take his meds; my stepdad dealt with abuse from his dad and just grew up around assholes; them being able to spend time at home ain't gonna solve that; they need mental help but no one wants to take mental illness seriously in this fucking country.
But for the fathers who are good, they should definitely be granted the ability to spend quality time with their children, and it's stupid to not allow that.
Idk man, I grew up without a father figure and thats the reason why i fully support psternity leave, so i think its more about stupidity than daddy issues.
OOF
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? If you've ever heard Rogan talk about his kids you'd know how much he cares for them.
Elon Musk "if they can make me pay taxes then imagine what they can do to you"
everybody else "...we've been paying taxes for years"
go start a small ass amazon business and take your spending and put it towards tax deduction. If you spend more than you make you dont pay taxes. Space x is all spending, theyve gotten like 1 contract from NASA so far.
People who get mad at rich people for playing the system that politicians created is like getting mad at police for enforcing laws politicians pass...
dumb dumb dumb
@@getthegoods420 you think those politicians passed those laws for no reason theres more backhand deals and bribes than you know
@@Indiana_Jesus half of all taxes go to the military anyway...
do you want more fighter jets and giant army boats or do you want self driving cars and space programs?
@@getthegoods420 how about a reasonable amount towards both instead of bureaucratic excuses why only one thing gets solved at a Time
Still doesn't change that 10 years ago most the wealthy people in the world still managed to be wealthy with 1/100 of what they have now
The idea of not taxing somebody who has who has as much money is Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk is ridiculous
and honestly with how aggressive China's been getting recently I'd prefer the more jets and ships
@@Indiana_Jesus of course this a war mongering fan base h3h3 whole podcast is just drama
"Do you want to live in Germany then? Cause here in America we gotta work" is such a delusional take. Imagine saying "you're not allowed to spend time with your newborn child, you need to slave away at your job instead"
We just had our first kid. I'm a older guy. I was really impressed my job allows 3 months of paternity leave. It's great. Makes me appreciate my job more
honestly hasan saying “ben shabibo” had me DYING laughing and idk what that says about me and my 3rd grade humour
@@fednanders4572 evvvvery now and then he lets "Shapiro" slip 🤣
@@sarahschouveller1993 and it sounds weird!
Probably just exposes your antisemitism. Hope you get better
@@maxim1152 Genuinely curious - why is that antisemitic?
@@thefireprincess1 ignore them their trolling
Does he realize that maternity leave is more for the baby than the woman? This time is SO IMPORTANT for children and BOTH of their parents to nurture the incredibly precious bond between themselves and their child. Maternity leave for both the father and mother are NECESSARY and should be automatically given without feeling guilty about it.
Absolutely 💯
Where I live never heard of any place giving the guy time off for the baby. Plant I worked for only allowed me off the day my son was born had to be in that night and back to regular hours later I hated that so damn much
@@teranceweeman7755 that's heart breaking.. we each only have like 2 kids on average so it is a short window when we compare it to the long ass time we all spend at work..capitalism would not screech to a hault to allow new parents to take a little break to enjoy their baby and catch their breath.. it is so sad that people are not for this. I worked with my little sister waitressing when she was about to have her first.. she was having contractions at work the last few days.
They don’t care about the baby after it’s born
Well small business’s can’t afford too. It just hurts locally owned business
My wife and I had to take a loan out to pay for living expenses for our second child. We thankfully paid it off, but its still bullshit families have to do shit like this.
This was the strongest leftovers yet. Great balance of goofs and gaffs and actual policy discussion
My dad being cold and unemotional has really impacted my emotional response. I have an extremely hard time showing emotions out of fear of judgement. For example, I will turn bright red if I start to talk about anything I’m passionate about in front of my dad, because it’s embarrassing to me for him to see me show emotion or passion towards something. I can’t even feel excited about stuff in front of him. That idea of fathers being cold and unemotional is so damaging
Hey there! I'm a social worker, working primarily with kids on the spectrum, with special needs and behavioural issues.
I highly recommend that *everyone* look into attachment theory and attachment injuries. It's important to not self-diagnose, but learning about attachment can help clarify your own issues with emotion and regulation.
I hope it's okay that I popped up here with my two cents - trying to spread the word and help heal generational trauma.
Splitting up resources into other comments because CZcams is deleting them?
Dr. Kirk Honda from Psychology in Seattle is an excellent resource for laymen to learn about attachment and family systems.
Susan Forward has a book called Toxic Parents that is a good read for regular people.
A more advanced (language-wise) book is The Body Keeps The Score, it covers how trauma affects the body and mind.
And of course, therapy. Therapy is sadly expensive and thus a privilege, but if you can find a source that meets your budget it could be the best investment you'll ever make.
Peace and love.
Omg I feel you. I would love to share this feeling with someone to get over it
Well I had the exact opposite experience, my dad telling me to man up as a child pulled me through my depression phase later on in life. The idea that men can endure anything really put into perspective all the suffering that men in the past have endured and that my depression was self inflicted, so in order to overcome this I need to be stronger (become a real man) if you will.
I’m going to need 20-30 minutes to come to terms with the fact that they aren’t wearing Halloween costumes 😔
Frenemies fan over here
Lmao
well it was technically posted yesterday for members right
Wrong podcast for costumes according to them
@@fitnessdicinyourmouth1438 Frenemies invented wearing costumes on Halloween?🤨🤯
Also if Joe’s issue is about both parents taking leave at the same time you don’t HAVE to do it that way. Dad can take paternity leave after moms is over or other way around. You can also take your leave as half work days instead. Clearly he’s never gone through the process or known someone who has lol
he didnt had to. he was rich as soon as he got children.
Its always the same with these people. if you're not rich you are not allowed the basic necessities. Im certain that a lot of "libertarians" and right wingers would be okay with starving people if they couldnt feed themselves and our overton window is the only thing holding them back from saying it openly.
Yes. The US could literally just ask other developed nations how it works 🤦🏻♀️
A fire ass episode. I never really grasped the idea of how someone like Elon can be so rich but Hasan really broke it down and now I’m pissed and depressed about our country lol.
Definitely check out his youtube channel if you haven't. He breaks down current news all the time.
I had an extremely difficult time after my first pregnancy. I don’t know what I would have done without my husband there to help. He saved my life. Literally. He was my rock, my sanity, my safe space. Everything. Because we were both able to be home it literally helped in every single way possible. Because of him I was back on my feet physically, mentally, and everything else so much faster. He was also able to bond with our Son and didn’t feel robbed or left out and he always tells me how incredibly thankful he is for that. I think if the parents feel it’s right for them it should absolutely be an option. I don’t know what all the specifics would look like, but it does need to be an option. There’s so many positives I wouldn’t even have the time to list them here. Just YES.
What would we do without men?????
@@slunkzilla lol oh yes 😂. No but seriously. It’s not for everyone but in my case holy crap I was grateful.
@@slunkzilla just shut up.
@@Kb-gh2rk same here. =) It's ok to lean on a male partner. Regardless of how terrible new wave feminists like to make you feel. Glad you guys got through it. ♡ xo
@@Kb-gh2rk that person is definitely trolling and missing the point. You were so blessed with a great partner. Some women suffer post partum ALONE. Their partners neglect them, cheat on them, and blame them for the depression. It's horrible. I'm so glad your husband is a good man and did his job 🙏💖
“Go give birth on your lunch break” 😂
Severely underrated line
Hasan is slowly radicalising Ethan and I love to see it
Well you 12 so that makes sense
@@Davidsweirdness self own... A 12 year old has more intentional growth and class consciousness than you? I can believe it.
@@rabca.123 weak. Try harder next time.
@@rabca.123 apparently not... lol
@@rabca.123 ...been paying taxes for 15 years, so shoot. Also, not a tankie. Must suck to be so screwed up by red scare propaganda that you can't even insult someone on the internet without making yourself look worse.. lol
My husband was only allowed 5 days away from his job, and because I was induced, it took my body about 3-4 days to finally get the baby out. So when he (my son) was finally born, my husband had to go back to work the VERY NEXT DAY; while I sat in the hospital by myself, recovering and in pain, all alone with a newborn. He came every day when he was off of work, but besides that, his boss gave him such a small window of opportunity to appreciate such a precious time/moment in our lives. This was ESPECIALLY fucked up considering his boss is a “family friend”/“SECOND FATHER” to my husband.. his boss is also very conservative and pro-MAGA of course.
Not only that, but our conception of this baby was a MIRACLE to begin with! My husband had been battling stage 4 Hodgkin’s lymphoma for 5 years during the time we found out we were pregnant. Numerous doctors before we found out we conceived had told him it was most likely he would never be able to conceive unless he stored sperm due to how much chemotherapy he had received. His boss knew all of this history, and still made the call to only allow him 5 days off of work to be with me through the birthing process. It’s a disgrace and an actual joke.
I don’t like his boss at all, but I have to tolerate him because of how much my husband apparently respects this man.
Paternity leave is also for the mother. Did he not take leave to help his wife in the first month or so? You know he had the resources to.
If so, I feel bad for his wife but something tells me he probably took some leave when his children were born.
My husband obviously bonded with our babies during his paternity leave, but honestly his leave had a much bigger benefit to me than anyone else. I’m a stay at home mom so he took care of everything I normally would during that time so I could nurse and sleep.
This 10000000%
Exactly
@@abbsterlicious5186 uhh she never said it did? All she said was it benefits both.
He doesn't work a real job, so he doesnt understand teh concept of "leave"
Oh wow, that sounds amazing and I sure envy you! I am a stay at home mom as well and my husband never got more than 1-2 days max off work (he works 7 days a week.) He was there with us in the hospital the day our babies were born then I was there by myself with the babies for the remainder of the hospital stay & beyond.
It was especially hard this last time around when I also had the 2 older girls to take care of, plus packing/unpacking all of our belongings to move house. Then in the middle of moving, our vehicle was totaled by someone who t-boned us with all the kids in the car, so I then also had to figure out insurance shit and rental stuff and all of that BS by myself… on top of everything else. Add to all that a newborn who wanted to nurse every 45mins and never slept unless I was holding her (still doesn’t, almost 18 months later) and idk how I’ve managed to survive let alone keep everyone else going this whole time! Having my husband there for even the first month would’ve been fucking HEAVEN. This should not be an issue in fucking 2021- men should absolutely get time off to bond with their babies and help their wives through the extremely difficult transition process. It’s absolute BS that men aren’t given that opportunity in the US, supposedly the “greatest country in the world!”
As a single father that Rogan shit pisses me off. My boss would literally be confused and ask why I don't have a wife to do the things I needed time off to do. I missed so many important moments because of that line of thinking. Joe may not give af but I want to be in my child's life because I had a father who I barely ever saw growing up. Now my dad and I have no relationship and I got into a lot of trouble without that fatherly guidance.
💕
Toe Rogan is a meathead anyways…. Not worth the effort. He’s stupid at the end of the day pretending to be somewhat intelligent x
Your little one will appreciate your efforts 🤍
Bless you
Sorry about your relationship with your father. Rogan is such an idiot here, this view is very misandrist. Its very important that fathers stay home in those moments.
i genuinely love how Hasan *actually* knows what he’s talking about when it comes to politics/policy…
Hasan is based
It is basically his job, but I agree that it's refreshing.
@@trumplostlol5281 hasan is a manchild lmao
@@nbmi4613 nah hes more of a himbo than anything
LMFAO YOU ACTUALLY SAID THAT
"Apparently Canadas roads are dog shit"- Most true thing ive heard all year
It baffles me how the US has no government funded maternity or paternity leave, how are you supposed to bond with your babies and give them the nurturing they need? Heartbreaking.
The only maternity leave I got was getting laid off literally the day I gave birth 🙃
@@katceja1227 I'm so sorry 💔
@@katceja1227 meanwhile in Canada you're paid up to 18 months.
You don't, you get one tired parents who watches the baby and you get one tired parents working overtime to afford the bills.
@@allalll1915 yeah I'm glad I'm Canadian as well for that reason. Americans keep voting for the two parties that never give them what they want, so what do they expect?
your guys' take on how paternity leave is great. I love how you mentioned that it has effected the family dynamic - families with emotionally or otherwise unavailable fathers.
Great MINUS the fact they called it “men’s rights” instead of a feminist issue like it is.
@@whatsupimlouie4670 it is literally a men’s rights issue. They are discussing a mans right to take time off to be with his child
@@whatsupimlouie4670 you left another comment about men’s rights and just, you know you can care about men’s rights without it being like correlated to the jordan peterson types of weirdos right? because there is such a high level of opposition to just men’s rights from the two comments i’ve seen
like there is ways to be progressive and care about some shit which is exclusively talking about men’s issues which do exist like an easy example toxic masculinity?
but you could argue the paternity take is a feminist take because it intersects with both men and women, it’s just kinda nit picky because they were talking about gay couples and conservatives being mad about men being able to take paternity leave
@@whatsupimlouie4670 it’s literally a human rights issue it affects both men and women
@@connsescape3247 the insane thing imo is, on the show they are talking about a gay couple. Two men. Specifically one of the men's paternity leave. How does a gay couple adopting a child and having paternity leave involve women? And is some how a feminist issue?
Ironic that Joe "talks for a job" Rogan thinks we should all work harder.
even worse, joe “pretends to be even dumber than he actually is” rogan
Hasan is literally my dream man....his intelligence exceeds the fact that he's amazingly well spoken and handsome as F*ck
He’s lowk a smart Jeff wittek
Ethan has a nicer voice tho lol
Lmao yes!! NGL this man is a DREAM boat
heads a lil too small shoulders a lil too broad .. in a good way
@@madipesto monkaS 👍 normal size head
"you can grow concrete" the other guy was sooo done lmaoooo
bro he disassociated straight up
Joe rogan saying in american we have to work when german engineering is like some of the best in the world lmao
“My body! It's the pride of the German people, and the prime example of our superior German Science!” - The only chad Nazi, 1938
Will never understand why people can’t see the reality that taxing the super rich will not effect regular Americans in any way. Other that benefit America in positive ways. The way the rich can get the middle class to work against themselves is insane.
The rich dont even pay what their supposed to be paying lol. There was a report that revealed that they paid like 3% in taxes atleast Elon did.
The best way to change policy is to grab the attention and change the minds of the people who have the largest voices and reach. In other words, begging and voting for change hasn’t worked so perhaps if we piss off the rich they’ll take money out of the pockets of politicians and put it somewhere more beneficial to everyone’s wellbeing.
@@ethereallotus7432 I have no clue how you just did that. That was really something else. How can you simultaneously be so incredibly wrong in your reasoning, but still reach the correct conclusion?
I'm not going to try to change you're mind, I'm afraid I'll accidentally knock you off of the correct answer lol
I gave birth to my son on a Thursday and my sons father had to go to work that Friday or he would get a point towards termination. With me being on unpaid maternity leave we couldn’t afford for him to miss a day, much less, lose his job. I spent the first night of my babies life exhausted, lethargic, and alone. Every day after that was severe depression because i was doing everything by myself day and night while he worked. it killed our relationship to an unrepairable place. it made me resent him for something that wasn’t even his fault..
It’s been 7 years and we have since talked about it and he confessed how much it hurt him too. Him not being able to be apart of the early days of our child’s life, and missing out on huge milestones. He felt left out on huge bonding time and not being able to help me when I needed him. It killed him. It showed me how much it effected us both differently.
We co parent very well now and are great friends, but i believe, if he would have been able to be apart of my sons life in the beginning, it would have changed the course of our family. i’m glad u covered that topic today because it’s REALLY important.
Hank Pecker sitting in for Hasan this week is great to see.
The king of Rustopia
@Conservative Loli Waifu (Bitcoin Enthusiast) "bitcoin enthusiast" bro are you 13?
*hussein pecker
“All TERFS and all nonces” is the best description of British Conservatives I (an Irish person) has ever heard.
I’m British and I absolutely hate living on TERF island
Whatsa terf
@@Nick-zd5ni Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist
Not sure you can call a Conservative a feminist of any kind whatsoever
@@Nick-zd5ni trans exclusionary radical feminist, or as I like to call them, transphobes
I fucking love this paternity leave convo!
Im a swede, father of 3 and a Engineer. I spent 10 months with each of my kids (30 months in total) on Paid leave. It actually makes me really sad seeing how mothers and fathers are treated in the states. I’m so grateful that I’ve had the opportunity to get a real connection with my kids, me and my wife share parenthood and a relationship where our kids can go to both of us to talk about things bothering them or if they’re sad.. I genuinely believe the world would be a better place if every child could have that relationship with their parents..
Such a good conversation, boys. I love what you guys are doing with this podcast
Savannah!
I wish when Joe Rogan said "Well this is America.." I WISH she said "What kind of argument is that? That Americans deserve less than the rest of the world?"
America, where work is more important than raising your kids.
He woulda just been like “WHOA where is this hostility coming from” then skirted the question and change the topic like he always does when someone confronts him.
It's even funnier because he doesn't seem to believe that people in Germany have jobs.
Or coulda said, when your roof is leaking, do you move out of your house?
With the whole no time off and abortion stuff, it’s like america doesn’t want ppl to reproduce at all, you are either penalized or offered to get rid of the child. Something is going on wrong.
"In America you gotta work" Joe Rogan, dude, you're a podcaster, come on.
Right, he works for like 5hrs a week and his people do all the rest. Jfc, that douchebag makes my blood boil! So out of touch with reality.
A disagree with what Joe said but he actually does work really hard tbf.cos he does podcast ,comedy shows and UFC commentary
@@butz-ne4bu so he talks for a living pretty much, I think the point was just that it’s not like he’s doing a full 40 hour work week
@@dionnahuard877 yeah talks for a living but he does work 40 hours a week tbf .its honestly not that easy you gotta think for commentary he has too learn about all the ufc fighters and that and about guests for the podcasts and then write comedy bits aswell.i get it you all hate him but you dont get the biggest podcast in the world without working hard that's just facts.if you take the time too watch some of his stuff you would see hes deffo a hard worker.his comedy shows aren't funny though imo, maybe it's just cos I'm from UK so different sense of humour ,fuck knows lol
@@butz-ne4bu yeah but I mean still I’d take being a podcaster over physical labour or a desk job lol you gotta work hard I get it but he should still acknowledge the fact that he’s not out there actually working like the majority of americans. it just seems dumb to say “oh this is America you have to work!” when he’s his own boss on a podcast ya know?
Fun fact: When men become fathers their testosterone lowers. Their testosterone also lowers when the get married. It’s almost like there’s a hormonal connection that fathers have-almost like they should be involved in the rearing children.
Such things have also been found in other animals-and most often our primate cousins.
Sounds like proof of the opposite to me. Men need to stay far away, at the Steel mill and bar to keep their manhood in tact! The liberals just want men to be woman! The earth is flat and the water is turning my frogs gay.
Weirdly, the lowering of testosterone and increase in prolactin that takes place in fathers has a lot to do with them smelling their child.
Cool stuff
@@seand5942 LMAO
I love that Dan is a part of this podcast, I'd like to hear him speak more often as well. He definitely has left-leaning politics like Hasan and Ethan, on the regular podcast he's usually the one with the most cogent takes from my perspective.
Wow a Korean vet and his special needs grandson, so sweet.
😂
Which is which I am genuinely asking
@@moonyman4353 Ethan is typically the one being cared for in these jokes. On their old channel, Ethan and Hila, it's always joked that Hila is his carer
@@gps3577 bro I’ve been a fan since like 2015 I was just asking bc it can go either way. Hasan has a baby face
@@moonyman4353 Also Hasans hat is a Korean war vet's hat so, Ethan is definitely still the special needs one in this joke too lol
as soon as the story said "her ballot was returned with her signature" it was like oh ok so the husband did it lmao
The amount of effort it would take for someone to intercept my ballot and also figure out / forge my signature is definitely not worth the 1 extra vote
thank you for this podcast, I've never seen an audience this large with this type of content
“I don’t care democrat or republican I want them all to go to jail” facts
Hasan's Peterson impression is just fucking priceless
It's fucking sad
Years of practice
@@piotrromanski6246 my mind : changed
@@JSTAR1991 on god
Kermit the frog did it better.
I love how the Korean vet is teaching his life lessons to his adolescent nephew
I hope they keep going with this podcast even if it doesn't get as many views as the others, really enjoying it
“In America you gotta work.” Says professional podcaster.
The billionaire tax thing makes my blood boil. People seem to become insuffrable douchebags after they earn a few millions.
Right, like these two.
@@darkprince56 🤑
@@darkprince56 I guess that's an opinion. I was thinking a bit more like having $50 million -ish. "A few" was not the right wording at all, I ment considerable less than a billion.
half the taxes go to the army anyway.
@@darkprince56 yes
You guys joked last episode it would take 40 episodes to get things smooth. I hope that’s not a joke. I fucking LOVE this podcast man keep it goin.
shout out Glocca Morra. 'the working bones...' is one of my favorite albums
@Conservative Loli Waifu (Bitcoin Enthusiast) sad ass troll lmaooooo typical anime fan
@@cogipomroll they’re a troll who’s replying under literally every comment bc they have no life
@Conservative Loli Waifu (Bitcoin Enthusiast) touch grass
glocca morra
'Scope creep' is used in some industries to describe the phenomenon of more and more work (the scope of your role) being piled on you until you burn out.
Imagine making $30,000 a year, paying for Medicare, vision, dental and a 401k while at the same time trying to live! and that’s untaxed 🙃
Just moved to a new town, I don't know anyone here. H3 made me less lonely. Don't need to nesasaraly talk to another person, but listing to your conversation was enough for me to feel that human connection I've been missing. Thanks
Idk how dense the population is in your new town but if you work or go somewhere in that town often be sure to try and make a friend! It’s important to try and connect with people locally
the price for the studio gets higher and higher each episode. class
The concrete grows and needs to be taxed by how much terrain it's taking. Soon it'll be the size of Texas.
these guys are killing it with this pod. good shit my dudes!
Hearing Dan's cackling off screen is killing me
Ethan's progression from an Elon stan to a hater makes me happy
Logical progression
Mirrors my own, I deleted all my tweets recently out of shame
@@joseaguilar3323 growth is often difficult but I’m proud of you, buddy :)
He's turning more and more into the garbage he hated.
It's pretty hard to defend a greedy douche bag in times like these, no matter how innovative and cool he used to be.
1:04:51 YES, my man Hasan using the term anti-choice. ✊🏻
We need to be replacing “pro-life” with the much more accurate “anti-choice” in our vocabularies, considering life is the very LAST thing these people care about.
yes, pro birth at max. what happens after it to the kid they dont give a fuck about
I will only be referring to it as anti-choice from now on. Won’t even give them the pro-birth title because they literally don’t care if the child or mother makes to term they just don’t want women to have control over their bodies. Catch me calling a spade a spade
How about anti murder?
@@tsc7018 No.
@@screwselfrestraint cool you can murder babies and call it choice. Amazing human you are..
Hasan and Ethan mocking these guys sounds like Kermit the frog. I laughed so hard 😂
So I hate to do it, but I have to stick up for Amazon. We get 20 weeks paid leave for maternity. 4 weeks pre partum, 16 weeks post partum. 6 weeks of that is paternal leave which mean it can be used for the father if they don’t have leave available at their workplace. They also offer an 8 week ramp back program where mothers can work an adjusted schedule to re acclimate to the workday after leave. It’s honestly one of the best benefits they provide.
If Amazon does it you can probably guarantee they have metrics showing that maternity leave is better for productivity.
ethan’s impression of jordan peterson is too much i fucking choke everytime
the funniest part is that ethan is terrible at impressions, but he goes 105% every time
@Conservative Loli Waifu (Bitcoin Enthusiast) Um okay, did you comment in the wrong thread by mistake oooorrrr.....
@@sprybug im hoping its a troll bot and not an actual childpredator as their name suggests
@@A2Z83 you might want to check this guy’s profile…
@@A2Z83 lol. You can never tell these days online.
I could listen to 6 hours of these two doing their Peterson impressions
@TheHolyDiver for sure, but 5 would still leave me wanting more
Thank you Ethan for making the point I've been making too. I've been so confused in the debates because they completely overlook the fact that there's 2 fathers so Joe Rogan is basically saying the kid should have no parent around. To me that's an extra level of what the F are you saying dude, so it was nice to hear it expressed finally.
"You're reading everything that's getting taken off the bill"
"Yeah, I know"
😢😢😢😢
Goddamn, hassy has the best Peterson impression.
At some point it will always turn into Kermit the Frog, and it’s still an accurate impression.
*(kermit the frog crying voice intensifies)* what are we gonna do without MEN? 🐸 😭
Ryan Katsu Rivera is the winner.
I literally thought it was Jordan talking when it was Hasan!
Seriously it’s spot on lol
yall need to let hasan prepare a segment- let him GO OFF tr*sha style (ethan do not interrupt challenge). I love this show though, jimmy timmy power hour level crossover fr
Why would you want it to be a serious podcast . Isn’t it goofs and gafs
Stunlock competition !
Trisha was a lowkey planned disaster
Or you could go watch Hasans stream where he goes off for 10 hours straight
LOL no
nice to see that hassan is getting confortble with this show. first episode was kinda akward KEKW. great show guys. keep going. left is the right way. love yall
Not only is there no maternity or paternity leave in the USA but it is also one of the only, if not the only country where you have to pay to give birth.
Watching Ethan talk with Hasan is like watching a younger brother trying to be like his cool older brother lmao. This podcast has been great from the start.
So true
exactly
My band is called "The Leftovers" (seriously) I'd love to have the chance to write/perform/record a custom intro song for you guys
Also an amazing and highly underrated TV show! Seriously, everyone needs to see The Leftovers, it should have gotten way bigger than it did.
@@Wraiven22 omg, my mom n I always felt like we were the only ppl who watched that show and truly loved it. Was SO disappointed when they ended it, 3 seasons wasn't enough😔
This is socialism! Leta get this man to work! 😊 I would love to see this.
When my mom gave birth to my sister she got fired because she forgot to call into work because she was in labor
CZcams has started realizing that I fall asleep to these videos, so they’ve started giving me sleep-related ads. It’s always something like a pillow or some meditation app
Fellas, is it gay to take care of your family?
Yes
You care for your family? Puszy
Real men get divorced and take out their aggression on strangers at Target.
"The poors need to work, at their every expense!" - Joe Rogan 2021
joe is lost in texas's bbq sauce
I love Hassan always saying “throw them in jail” 🤣
Being a Dane, I'm in the opposite ring-corner. I cannot fathom how it works... like... logistically, to pop out a baby, and go back to your full time job 2 weeks later. How is it done? Do you depend on the grandparents? My parents are too old and too sick to care for a newborn. And at that age, you have to wake up every two hours to feed the lil' bugger. How do you contribute anything of value to a workplace, with a foggy brain from sleep deprivation and spit up on your uniform. I used to work at McDonald's while in high school, and I was much less tired back then, and still managed to get a serious burn on my forearm, and hit my hand on a metal shelf, getting a flesh wound down to the bone. Imagine me operating heavy machinery, after not sleeping for three months straight.
I don't understand how it is done.. And I love working.. Love it.. But if I'm having a baby, I'm taking some serious paid maternity leave. And so is the father, because I'm not doing that shit alone.
Saying ‘parental care is for the person who gave birth’ ignores the fact that women need to physically recover from childbirth, which makes caring for a newborn infant impossible without help. Also women traditionally had support networks of other new mothers and family to help them out. As long as we continue to promote individualism and the nuclear family, both parents need leave to care for a newborn.
Haven't you noticed that the word women, woman or anything related to us is being erased in the name of inclusivity? Course they're going to call it parental care.
@@darkprince56 they aren’t erasing anything. Parental care/ guardian have always been there. Not everyone has a “mom” or “dad” that’s why things like “guardian” is there. Also aren’t woman ‘parents’, ‘guardians’?? Do you not realize this still includes them?? They aren’t erasing “women”. If you genuinely believe this you are delusional, seek help or get off the internet.
absolutely. I had complications after a c section. My husband got 10 days off... we had no family help... it was HELL. For both of us. Men need that time to bond w their child and help the mother physically and perhaps mentally. I don't know why so many Americans like Rogan WANT to make the country worse for our own people....
@@darkprince56 No? All I see is acknowledgement that trans men can and do give birth
Jess Pavlichenko sure they can but it doesn't negate the eternal fact that they're biological women... that's why they're called trans men because they weren't born men
*Here in Canada, you get 12 months paid leave at 55% of your wage plus any bonuses calculated by what you made on your best week of pay. And then it drops to I believe 30% of your wage for the next 6 months after the year if you choose to do an 18 month maternity OR paternity leave. Either the mom or dad can take this leave* We also have a really high Child Tax Benefit, to encourage people to have children. Some people get $700/month/child, depending on your wage
I’m for paid parental leave but wow 18 months for the father seems excessive. Does the government subsidize that or do the compaines pay a percentage? I would guess a lot of families would struggle with only getting 55% of wages so they return to work much sooner than a year.
Nice! And it only takes you 3 years to get a tumor removed.
@@YeetusSupremus they are significantly different. Lol.
@@ignignokt-6050 gov subsidizes it. Employer just needs to verify income ! I just came off a 12 month leave but had to go back to work because I’m a single mother. 18 months are good for parents with children with complications or developmental issues… or parents who wish to spend some extra time with their little one.
@@saber6589 I’ve never heard of or know of anyone here dying because they can’t get the medical help they need. Sadly can’t say the same about the US
Ethan your versatility lately is super respectful. You’re like a sunflower growing through a crack in the highway that just keeps getting driven over but always grows back. So versatile. Keep killing it!
Peace and love this was the only leftovers I was able to watch all the way to the end