The Megami Tensei II Experience

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  • čas přidán 1. 11. 2020
  • An extended review/discussion of Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei II for the Famicom, created by Atlus in 1990. How does it hold up compared to the first, and is it worth playing this version today? Let’s go on a little tour of Tokyo and check it out.
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  • @MarshSMT
    @MarshSMT  Před 3 lety +1558

    I don't think the universe wanted me to publish this - the editing software crashed numerous times, I ran into audio issues, and it killed my headset. In fact, it had its last breath like ten minutes ago, so this game effectively was the last thing it heard. Hope it was worth the effort, sorry it took so long. As promised, Soul Hackers is next, and I have an idea for a shorter review coming up in the near future.

    • @MohammadAhmad-sf6by
      @MohammadAhmad-sf6by Před 3 lety +17

      That sucks

    • @rynenapier1095
      @rynenapier1095 Před 3 lety +157

      your sacrifices are appreciated cause these reviews are gold

    • @demiv7110
      @demiv7110 Před 3 lety +66

      Exactly. The sacrifice was well worth the review. Also, good luck on finding a new mic!

    • @pwnmonkey23
      @pwnmonkey23 Před 3 lety +54

      Lmk if you want another headset. I'd love to send some support your way.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 Před 3 lety +3

      What's the editing software you use?

  • @irl_lizard7880
    @irl_lizard7880 Před 2 lety +538

    I'm playing the fan translation and there is an NPC in the Princess Hotel there's an NPC that says, "You're planning to kill the witch in Tokyo Tower, yeah? As long as she remains on her magic seal, her power is amplified exponentially." So there is actually an explanation for why she's so much less powerful when she's in your party.

    • @RussoBelmont
      @RussoBelmont Před rokem +63

      Yes, because Rossana (The name confirmed by Atlus of the female protagonist) in her magic seal is level 100 (Reason why it kills you and your party in one attack) but when she is your new partner, she is at the level just as you left her in the Devil Busters game (and to top it off, with nothing of the equipment she had in Devil Busters itself)

    • @anthonykarnes6804
      @anthonykarnes6804 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Link?

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před 3 měsíci

      ​@anthonykarnes6804 play the fan translation.... there won't be a link saying word for word what OP wrote, and if there is then you'll find it by using this amazing new website....... called Google.

  • @averagecomedyenjoyer9518
    @averagecomedyenjoyer9518 Před 3 lety +402

    59:29 Friendship ENDED with Lucifer, now god is my best friend.

  • @no64256
    @no64256 Před 3 lety +1647

    >Walk into store
    >Think it's some kinda women's clothing store
    >Buy a shitton of stuff while having no idea what your buying
    >Told to pick between you and your friend
    >Get kicked out of store severely injured and paralyzed
    >Realise the sign said "Drug" and not "Drag"
    >Realise it was a hard drug store and that you overdosed on mystery needles
    >Proceed to get your demon dog killed in an underground fight club
    11/10 would Marsh again

    • @matheusmoreira9951
      @matheusmoreira9951 Před 2 lety +52

      Isn't that what the song Walk on the Wild Side is all about?

    • @realpastastrainer
      @realpastastrainer Před rokem +14

      based and marshpilled

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Před rokem +4

      @@matheusmoreira9951 🤣 I mean, close enough

    • @ojgsk8ter
      @ojgsk8ter Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@matheusmoreira9951 everything except the demon dog fighting - although that is heavily implied by the songs lyrics.

  • @AceOfROMs
    @AceOfROMs Před 3 lety +805

    Gets arm chopped off
    "aww"
    Get new robot arm
    "yay!"
    Doesn't do anything cool
    "aww"

    • @pablotomasllodra4423
      @pablotomasllodra4423 Před 3 lety +38

      Didn’t it add more space for demons?

    • @shdjdj7135
      @shdjdj7135 Před 3 lety +15

      And punch yhvh with his normal arm (right arm)

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +18

      @@pablotomasllodra4423 I think it's in the kyuuyaku version? I'm not sure unfortunately

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 Před 3 lety +25

      No DMC5 cool devil breaker shenanigans

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious Před 3 lety +16

      @@gayrozayppeli8431 It is. I'm playing it rn and it does add more space for demons

  • @TectonicImprov
    @TectonicImprov Před 3 lety +838

    Marsh reveals himself to be a Law sympathizer: the Movie

    • @Green-Raccoon777
      @Green-Raccoon777 Před 3 lety +109

      Now where's the Devil Survivor experience? He needs to be introduced to the Chad Remiel before the Virgin Mastema and his fangirls spoil him.

    • @flashystarwinger
      @flashystarwinger Před 3 lety +4

      TectonicImprov ew.

    • @sociallyawkard5675
      @sociallyawkard5675 Před 3 lety +31

      @@Green-Raccoon777 that aint first person get that shit outta here

    • @arbatel8648
      @arbatel8648 Před 3 lety +15

      Based

    • @Stitchiols06
      @Stitchiols06 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sociallyawkard5675 lol

  • @yoshimitzu111
    @yoshimitzu111 Před 3 lety +355

    Finally the lord and saviour is back to bestow his blessings upon us mortals.

  • @jordansheen2571
    @jordansheen2571 Před 3 lety +141

    Undine = water
    Gnome = earth
    Slyph = air
    In Paracelsus's alchemical system, I'm sure there a part of the game were you would need Salamander (fire) to proceed.

    • @CoolF41lur3
      @CoolF41lur3 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Actually, there is a Salamander, I was playing right now trying to figure out what to fuse and one of the fusion recipes was Coin Knight X Jack Frost = Salamander

    • @paulo_roberto900
      @paulo_roberto900 Před 21 dnem

      Oh my goodness!!
      Where have you heard about Paracelsus’ alchemical system from?

  • @rogercheetoofficial
    @rogercheetoofficial Před 3 lety +438

    here's a quick fact, since i am unfamiliar with megaten 2;
    "drug" and "drag" can be put into romaji the exact same way, so it's entirely natural to make the mistake shown in the video if you're not very fluent in japanese

    • @notbaldfrost
      @notbaldfrost Před 3 lety +98

      She also asks you right after if you want to try “Mayumi-chan’s special medicine”, so make of that what you will...

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 2 lety +18

      I mean, aside from questions of why you'd expect a store selling women's clothes to be called a drag store and not...a clothing store. (Actually, _are_ there stores catered to men who want to buy women's clothes? That doesn't _sound_ like a thing, it seems like a plain ol' women's clothing store would make more sense, but...)

    • @newironside
      @newironside Před rokem +8

      @@timothymclean There are drag stores

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@notbaldfrostThat's just the drag queen propositioning the protag

  • @IncrediblyUnfunny
    @IncrediblyUnfunny Před 2 lety +259

    Despite already reading up on the entire plot of Shin Megami Tensei II, it took me a disturbingly long 40 minutes to realize this wasn't that game, and that, in fact, Megami Tensei and Shin Megami Tensei are two entirely different series. I really did just sit there for 40 minutes thinking "man that whole thing about the Center, Zayin, Beth, and the Millennium Kingdom is taking a pretty long time to start up"

    • @dream_state
      @dream_state Před rokem +10

      Wait so they're not the same? 😂

    • @IncrediblyUnfunny
      @IncrediblyUnfunny Před rokem +49

      @@dream_state Essentially, the 2 Megami Tensei games came first and take heavy inspiration from the Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei light novel, Shin Megami Tensei came out after those games and takes hardly any inspiration from the light novel. iirc Marsh's going to review SMT2 after he's done with Majin Tensei which I'm really looking forward to, from what I remember the plot of SMT 2 is absolutely bonkers

    • @PLATINUM_Rook
      @PLATINUM_Rook Před rokem +15

      ​@@dream_stateFirst there was a book by Aya Nishitani called Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei, then Atlus turned it into a video game for the Famicom, then they started telling their own stories with Megami Tensei II, then they made Shin Megami Tensei, then Shin Megami Tensei II, which are original stories unrelated to the previous games.
      There is a Super Famicom game called Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei, which is an SNES remake of Megami Tensei and Megami Tensei II.

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@dream_state
      Megami Tensei 2 is the prototype for Shin Megami Tensei 1.
      Megami Tensei 1 was based on the novels and Megami Tensei 2 was when Atlus used the name to draw attention to their own original work but eventually they realized they didn’t need the name anymore and decided to redo Megami Tensei 2 with a whole new name and a bigger scale in terms of the story so SMT was born.

  • @chazmaru9583
    @chazmaru9583 Před 3 lety +233

    "What the hell is this supposed to be, Disneyland!?"
    Hmm yeah actually, based on the design and rough location, I am pretty sure that is supposed to be a demon-infested parody of Disneyland Tokyo. I don’t know the FC version much but, in the SFC remake, it is located in a place called Yume no Shima (Island of Dreams). Disneyland Tokyo was also present in SMT1 as the Destiny Land dungeon (I guess the reference was more obvious there).
    Nice series of videos, thanks!

    • @MarshSMT
      @MarshSMT  Před 3 lety +118

      I wasn't even thinking that it actually could be Disneyland, it was more just a jab at how the castle sprite looks - someone else commented this too and I think you're right

  • @photonman0018
    @photonman0018 Před 3 lety +74

    "we were out there having the time of our lives"
    literally just killed himself like 15 seconds ago

  • @JohneAwesome
    @JohneAwesome Před 3 lety +1041

    Never seen that Baal sprite before, ty Marshall for the epic video this game is pretty neat if you cut out every single random battle ever, and how many of these concepts were brought into SMTIV.

  • @vonithipathachai8449
    @vonithipathachai8449 Před 3 lety +216

    Funny how Asmodeus's Cave is apparently this game's "red colon" dungeon in a way that Zaratan Island, the actual colon dungeon, isn't

  • @TARINunit9
    @TARINunit9 Před 3 lety +258

    Funny fact about Checkman, he doesn't just function as a terminal. They literally just replaced him with actual terminals in the Kyuuyaku remake

  • @justanotherguywithamoustac8893

    Within the span of 3 minutes, this man overdosed on drugs, got his dog killed in a dog fight, and divorced his gay husband.
    This game is great

    • @augustocesar5191
      @augustocesar5191 Před 3 lety +261

      And later had his friend handjob a oldman, lost his arm and participated in a satanic orgy
      This game is a masterpiece in terms of story writing lmao

    • @notbaldfrost
      @notbaldfrost Před 3 lety +185

      And let’s not forget when he was afflicted with PIG and _committed suicide_ to free himself from his macabre fate of spending eternity as a chubby suid on a little island in Hell. While Lucifer sat there twiddling his thumbs.

    • @arashi86
      @arashi86 Před 3 lety +125

      MegaTen II is art, confirmed.

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +78

      @@arashi86 There's a reason why it influenced such a big franchise

    • @AmonsRealm
      @AmonsRealm Před 3 lety +34

      I have not played this game but WHAT?

  • @MapleMilk
    @MapleMilk Před 3 lety +364

    An hour long video?
    Good for entertainment
    Bad for Education
    (Also Marsh's sanity)

  • @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt
    @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt Před 3 lety +184

    56:53
    "And we head back to Ginza for the final confrontation against Satan and God"
    Idk why this is so funny to me lmao

    • @MarshSMT
      @MarshSMT  Před 3 lety +126

      I always thought it was funny that of all places, God is apparently beneath Ginza in some unsuspecting corporate office

    • @loserinasuit7880
      @loserinasuit7880 Před 3 lety +84

      @@MarshSMT He had some leftover paperwork before the fall of man.

    • @hummwee_3218
      @hummwee_3218 Před 2 lety +21

      It's pretty much comparable to, "we are heading to our local 7/11 to fight Darth Vader and Darth Maul

  • @heeho3360
    @heeho3360 Před 3 lety +512

    I don't mean any offence by this, but your videos are perfect for putting on repeat many times in the background while studying after the first time watch - I probably have the script to your Devil Summoner video memorised by now!

    • @vargas7224
      @vargas7224 Před 3 lety +16

      That’s crazy

    • @devinacho
      @devinacho Před 3 lety +21

      Holy shit same but with the Digital Devil Story one

    • @Ty_Jac
      @Ty_Jac Před 3 lety +46

      i get you man. I actually did the same for his smt if vid. Somethin about the voice and the commentary has me coming back to the vids.

    • @videorelaxant2780
      @videorelaxant2780 Před 3 lety +20

      I do this when I draw or animate. Marsh if you see this thanks.

    • @lilhikaru8361
      @lilhikaru8361 Před 3 lety +3

      Now thats pretty weird

  • @KrankuSama
    @KrankuSama Před 3 lety +102

    I don't see any coverage of old megaten titles so this content is gold to me, much appreciated marsh

  • @ChibiKami
    @ChibiKami Před 3 lety +393

    canon names, courtesy of SMT wiki. Multiple sources for a given character may exist (manga, drama CDs, etc):
    hero: Hideto or Takuma
    friend: Senda or Ryu
    girl: Rosanna or Asuka (which, since you named her Rei, is hilarious)

    • @mortenera2294
      @mortenera2294 Před 3 lety +64

      I'm an Evangelion fan, and I laughed hard

    • @xercespriest
      @xercespriest Před 3 lety +101

      SHINJI, GET ON THE GIANT TURTLE!!!

    • @mortenera2294
      @mortenera2294 Před 3 lety +46

      @@xercespriest Asuka: Uses Marin Karin on Shinji

    • @Suesserto
      @Suesserto Před 3 lety +24

      @@mortenera2294 Shinji is now -charmed- Distressed.

    • @letthebasscannon223
      @letthebasscannon223 Před 3 lety +16

      apparently "Hideto" and "Rosanna" are a reference to some musical act that was popular at the time

  • @cancer4cure483
    @cancer4cure483 Před 3 lety +206

    There was a weird amount demonic anime in the 80s, stuff like Devilman, Demon City Shinjuku and Doomed Megalopolis for example. So no wonder there is an NES game with a naked goat demon. Nice video, I really appreciate your effort.

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 Před 2 lety +39

      The 80s were a time for mecha, the occult, and occult mecha

    • @dartoney
      @dartoney Před 2 lety +3

      @@andrejg4136 so Evangelion is the 80s then?

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 Před 2 lety +13

      @@dartoney Occult Mecha goes before Evangelion. See the Iczer metaseries, and various mecha and power armored themed OVAs, like Genocyber.

    • @modeus9592
      @modeus9592 Před 2 lety

      And all goodness too

    • @ArkhanNightman
      @ArkhanNightman Před 2 lety +5

      For some reason Gnosticism became a fad for a while in Japan.

  • @knightornstein5902
    @knightornstein5902 Před 3 lety +190

    16:48 A real Simp Megami Tensei moment.

  • @ph43draaa
    @ph43draaa Před 3 lety +255

    Just mind-boggling that this is a NES game

    • @zachb4148
      @zachb4148 Před 2 lety +30

      By far the best NES game, I love Zelda and Fire emblem but man this game is just a whole step above. I think if this game got a modern remake it could be as good as any mainline game.

    • @underscore2554
      @underscore2554 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@zachb4148Zelda 1 and 2 are just too good and with less of the unfair bs this game can throw at you. This is easily the best NES JRPG, and it’s actually super ambitious, but Zelda 1 is great and isn’t super dated aside from graphics and sometimes cryptic directions

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@underscore2554I mean we also have Dragon Quest III and Sweet Home. I haven’t play this one tho.

    • @nobblesavage2848
      @nobblesavage2848 Před měsícem

      Zelda 1? Nah. I think ever in 80s it is a 3rate copy of xanadu-like games from PC's. How can anyone can compare it to Megami Tensei, not II, just at least I?

  • @_Koyomi_
    @_Koyomi_ Před 3 lety +64

    This was well worth the wait. You're the goat for tormenting yourself for our enlightenment and enjoyment.

  • @Force-hiddenmasquerade
    @Force-hiddenmasquerade Před 3 lety +102

    “In this game you don’t really know where to go”
    I had the same problem in SMT IV man. At this point I think it’s a mainstay in the JRPG genre lol

    • @wubbawubba3396
      @wubbawubba3396 Před 3 lety +27

      I have no idea why, but it was really just SMT IV that had that problem in the modern SMT series. Strange journey had a few weird paths forward, but I have never been as confused as in IV, so dont worry about feeling lost in that game, _everyone gets lost in IV_

    • @DeadLineGame
      @DeadLineGame Před 3 lety +15

      @@wubbawubba3396 honestly getting lost in smt iv makes the tokyo song that more impacting

    • @wubbawubba3396
      @wubbawubba3396 Před 3 lety +22

      @@DeadLineGame Fr tho. Thank God the Tokyo song was so soothing; if it weren't for it, I would've popped a blood vessel.

    • @Sigismund697
      @Sigismund697 Před 3 lety +7

      @@wubbawubba3396 I'm just glad they added tags on Apocalypse made traversing the game that much easier

    • @chamclamtv
      @chamclamtv Před 3 lety +4

      @@Sigismund697 i feel like they streamlined it too much in Apocalypse, felt like a simple level select to me.

  • @blaze45ful
    @blaze45ful Před 3 lety +18

    The main character lost his arm, fight with his best friend, drug himself to the point of almost kill himself, a get into a satanic orgy, duude, that is indeed one hell of a trip!

  • @unknown6390
    @unknown6390 Před 3 lety +165

    You're a champion for doing all this hard work! I'm glad to see another MegaTen content creator growing and I've really enjoyed your reviews since I discovered the "SMT If Experience". As long as it doesn't kill you, keep it up!

  • @avalen767
    @avalen767 Před 3 lety +51

    This is some of the best Megaten content out there. It's great to get a real in-depth look into what these older/more obscure(in the West) MT games are like.

  • @gayrozayppeli8431
    @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +119

    Okay here's the bigger comment I promised!
    it's a great, fantastic video. And definitely taught me a lot of stuff about the NES version. There's a couple of differences between this and the Kyuuyaku version, namely being that you don't actually get Checkmate the totem pole guy. No, he's replaced with the terminals from smt 1 onwards. So that's certainly something. Also some neater stuff includes the art style being shifted more towards how smt 1 and co. were presented. But the real gravitas of megami tensei II, imo, is lost until you've played the rest of the megaten franchise.
    The first being that this was the debut game of Kazuma Kaneko. A lot of these artworks were some of the basis for demon designs in the future and just the general look of the world. And how good and evil were handled were to inspire how the mainline franchise handled law and chaos, especially with how Lucifer and YHVH would be represented from then on, and how they'd represent their respective ideals. Hell, even tokyo played a bigger part here. It's genuinely great to go back and play megaten 2 since I love mainline. Also, this game is the first appearance of our beloved Jack Frost(albeit with a different design; but still!)
    This game is so influential and its effects are still felt in the series to this day. Even with SMT V on the horizon.

    • @CrashWeezerman
      @CrashWeezerman Před 3 lety +9

      It'd be awesome if someone makes a rom hack for kyuuyaku megami tensei that adds checkman back into the game. He's too weird and cool to replace like that.

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +8

      @@CrashWeezerman I think it'd be hard considering the hardware between NES and SNES are so different and how they'd have to write dialogue and make sprites.
      But it's definitely possible. Maybe one dya

    • @toryficarola
      @toryficarola Před 3 lety

      Everything he said is the YHVH honest truth and the greatest post of them all in this comments section. Sadly I only played the Kyuuyaku version of this game so I missed out on Checkman.

    • @KeyleeTamirian
      @KeyleeTamirian Před 3 lety +5

      I just realized that SMT3 Nocturne Terminals are Checkman

  • @Hiro_Shizue
    @Hiro_Shizue Před 3 lety +81

    Another instant classic by someone simply called “The Man”. Marsh, you’ve done it again. Looking forward to Soul Hackers, though I hope to finish it before you finish the video on it.

    • @appelofdoom8211
      @appelofdoom8211 Před 3 lety +3

      And did you?

    • @Hiro_Shizue
      @Hiro_Shizue Před 3 lety +6

      @@appelofdoom8211 I did! I did the secret fights as well! It was as hype as it was fucking difficult.

  • @Moayad56
    @Moayad56 Před 3 lety +52

    I swear this man is just flexing his Japanese skills at this point

    • @Circ00mspice
      @Circ00mspice Před 2 lety +9

      *Confuses "drug" with "drag"*

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 2 lety +2

      "I mistook a drug dealer for a women's clothing store" is a weird flex, but okay.

  • @youngkappakhan
    @youngkappakhan Před 2 lety +7

    "Having murdered my dog and overdosed on drugs, there's not much left to do in Ariake." is a good quote out of context

  • @demiv7110
    @demiv7110 Před 3 lety +68

    Review Megami Tensei at 1:00 AM in the morning on a school night... Hell yeah!

  • @hayaokakizaki4463
    @hayaokakizaki4463 Před 3 lety +17

    For the record, intelligence is used for demon negotiation in all three SNESMT games

  • @Zakkious
    @Zakkious Před 3 lety +114

    The Kyuuyaku version is way more bearable, Marsh, trust me. I'm playing it at the moment and (aside from the usual grinding) it improves quite a lot from the original version

    • @KeyleeTamirian
      @KeyleeTamirian Před 3 lety +25

      NES version still looks prettier...

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious Před 3 lety +22

      @@KeyleeTamirian somehow, yes. The SNES version looks awfully dated.

    • @underscore2554
      @underscore2554 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@KeyleeTamirianall of the npc interactions like shops and stuff look so much nicer than kyuuyaku, kyuuyaku’s demons look good tho

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ZakkiousI mean music and visuals only look good because of the designers.

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious Před 9 měsíci

      @@thomasffrench3639 Yep. The NES version has really good art for the NES, while Kyuuyaku has pretty mediocre art for the SNES (just compare it to SMT 1 and 2)

  • @ThatOneLegendEmerald
    @ThatOneLegendEmerald Před 3 lety +117

    YESSSSSS WOOOOO thank you for being one of the last good parts of this fandom

    • @rangedfighter2663
      @rangedfighter2663 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah really

    • @ThatOneLegendEmerald
      @ThatOneLegendEmerald Před 3 lety +1

      @@rangedfighter2663 Phan Site drama, modding scene having bad people....it is rough.

    • @rangedfighter2663
      @rangedfighter2663 Před 3 lety +11

      @@ThatOneLegendEmerald I knew what happened with phan site but what happened with modding.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ThatOneLegendEmerald The modding scene has terrible people? Well no wonder it's mismanaged

    • @gayrozayppeli8431
      @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah what happened wth the modding scene?

  • @marinarainfermo
    @marinarainfermo Před 2 lety +26

    Can't believe this finally got an english translation! I've been interested in playing since I saw your video, and I think it's finally pleb-accessible 👍

  • @johneduchene6532
    @johneduchene6532 Před 3 lety +12

    Your videos have such an early 2000's webseries vibe, I love it.

  • @goby1764
    @goby1764 Před 3 lety +39

    This channel is one of the things that's been making 2020 alright

  • @shogus0046
    @shogus0046 Před 3 lety +52

    You are easily among my favorite content creators at the moment. The videos have all been god tier so far, keep it up!

  • @NEETKitten
    @NEETKitten Před 5 měsíci +3

    Coming back to this video, it's kinda funny how the game that started so many Megaten traditions also started a lot of Marsh's traditions. Charlie and Rei becoming mainstays, being regularly assaulted by a Minotaur, somehow managing to get something killed (usually Orthrus or his partner) within the first 20 minutes of the video, and just all the minor, weird goofy little things that became sort of running gags.
    Thank you Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei II. Who knows where we'd be right now without you.

  • @roufaspentaghast1636
    @roufaspentaghast1636 Před 3 lety +14

    I love that you just rolled with Charlies early death and had to make a small event out of bringing him back. Can't wait to see your next video Marsh.

  • @GanonAutumn777
    @GanonAutumn777 Před 3 lety +25

    As Akihiko usually say every battle: "IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS" xD
    I love the fact you covered the original megaten 2 as most people who cover the first two megaten games cover the kyuuyaku remakes on the SNES

  • @riam850
    @riam850 Před 3 lety +36

    Fact that you need Gnome may seems weird at first, but you use it because it's an earth spirit.
    Previously you had to use water spirit Undine to progress, so it kinda makes sense that you would need another one again.
    The only weird thing is that wind spirit Sylph is only used to free Sword Knight, that you don't need to progress and the fire spirit Salamander don't have any special events.

  • @kingdongho571
    @kingdongho571 Před 3 lety +30

    It's so cool to see how creative and low-key crazy these games already were back then.

  • @babagryva5954
    @babagryva5954 Před 3 lety +23

    I am overjoyed, ill never get sick of seeing the really weird obscure megatens, i just beat soul hackers myself a few days ago and im excited for your review, thanks for being very cool man

  • @cj_iwakura
    @cj_iwakura Před 3 lety +9

    It's eerie to see how many things in later games from this, right down to THE FINAL DUNGEON OF IV BEING LUCIFER'S PALACE.

  • @isauldron4337
    @isauldron4337 Před 3 lety +13

    Glad to see you're back at it again man
    RIP Marsh's heaset, it died to help create this video

  • @yosukehanamura1870
    @yosukehanamura1870 Před 3 lety +10

    Big fan, A channel that isn't just persona. It's nice to see the origins of Smt. Inspired me to start with the first megami tensei.

  • @HansAlRachid
    @HansAlRachid Před 3 lety +27

    Regarding the controversy over your character losing an arm - as I understand it, dismemberment is considered a very different thing in japanese (pop) culture than it is in the west. Can't exactly remember the historical/sociological reasons, but yeah, for the purposes of storytelling it's more extreme for a character to lose a limb than for them to die over there. Especially back in the 90s it would have to have been extremely provocative to have such a scene in a videogame.

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify Před 6 měsíci

      Empire Strikes Back must be X-rated over there

    • @HansAlRachid
      @HansAlRachid Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@Ryu1ify I'd assume the emotional impact of that scene would just be more intense and would make Darth Vader seem even more evil/intimidating to the average viewer.
      Sociological connotations are weird in general - it's kinda like how when an American film wants an antagonist to look _truly_ despicable or irredeemable, it'll specifically show them hurting dogs in some way. Even outright murder of another human being isn't quite as evil in film language in that sense.

    • @Ryu1ify
      @Ryu1ify Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@HansAlRachid Wonder how the revelation that Vader had already been maimed in much the same way was taken in Return

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave Před 3 lety +110

    Interesting to see how many of the series' staples started with this one.
    Another thing I appreciate is that this is where Atlus started taking inspiration from Devilman (the original manga). Apocalypse setting aside, it must be where they took Satan encased in ice from, which in turn was taken from the Divine Comedy. It's amazing how many demon-related japanese media can be traced back to Devilman and then to the Divine Comedy.

    • @frog6054
      @frog6054 Před 2 lety +10

      Devilman is a great and a very influential manga for its time.

  • @akuro6470
    @akuro6470 Před 3 lety +15

    Thank you for letting me vicariously live through the games I'd likely not get around to myself through your videos

  • @gayrozayppeli8431
    @gayrozayppeli8431 Před 3 lety +35

    Holy shit I've been waiting so eagerly for this you don't know.
    Loved Megaten II when I played it. I'll probably write something more comprehensive once I finish

  • @incandescentlamp
    @incandescentlamp Před 3 lety +56

    Losing your arm in Megami Tensei 2 is such a memorable moment and I'd love to see a throwback to it in a future Megaten game but given more significance.

  • @NeviTheLettyFan
    @NeviTheLettyFan Před 3 lety +18

    I enjoy your commentary on these so much, the audio quality got better and some jokes like the upside cross one made me laugh a lot
    Seriously, thank you so much for doing these! It's so great to have more lovely content on Megami Tensei
    ---
    28:35 Holy shit there's Makai in this game?
    36:41 I swear, your comedic time is on point here
    45:32 lmaooo ''the classic red dungeon that looks like a colon inside''
    54:10 What a cool looking sprite
    What a lovely review, thank you so much for your efforts!

  • @knorkstea606
    @knorkstea606 Před 3 lety +48

    This channel made me interested in smt and now I have completed strange journey redux, p4g, soul hackers, persona 2 innocent sin and smt 2
    Thanks for introducing me to my now favourite game series ever

  • @audrey7038
    @audrey7038 Před rokem +3

    3:20 "I never thought I'd say this line again" is waaaaayy funnier rewatching these reviews

  • @kaimcdragonfist4803
    @kaimcdragonfist4803 Před 3 lety +5

    52:12 “Bigass naked dude on a snake”
    I’m sure nobody’s made a Florida joke yet

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 Před 3 lety +11

    I know it sounds mean, but I can really imagine this review being made in the early 2010's.
    A real nostalgic feeling.

  • @WHEREAMIHELP1
    @WHEREAMIHELP1 Před 2 lety +3

    It took me multiple watches, but I finally realized that your "it'll come in handy" comment about the cybernetics lab is a pun.

  • @Shonic567
    @Shonic567 Před 3 lety +7

    I really wish you got more recognition for the work you put in these videos man, you go the extra mile instead of doing the minimum, plus these videos are charming and pretty humorous

  • @pineapplepearjuice6717
    @pineapplepearjuice6717 Před 3 lety +44

    In the words of a world famous boxer: "I've been waiting gor this!"Edit: Oo h just noticed! The demons they ask you to have in hell are the elementals! Thats pretty rad!

  • @roy-cyber
    @roy-cyber Před 3 lety +5

    The fucking 2008 mic turns you into Prince Charming never change it

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 Před 3 lety +5

    I have literally been anxiously waiting in excitement for this upload, thank you Marsh!!

  • @Zylo587
    @Zylo587 Před 3 lety +21

    Trying to have Mrs. Reiho carry you through another Megaten game, Marsh?
    I'd try the same.

  • @julienreviews8988
    @julienreviews8988 Před 3 lety +13

    I love watching your videos it makes me feel like your a friend who's just telling me about a game I never thought would be interesting but some how you pull it off

  • @FunneeAlgernon
    @FunneeAlgernon Před 3 lety +10

    Yooo, thanks so much for doing this! I know it's a cliche to say, but you really deserve more subs for doing this series.
    As niche as the series is, our community really is just small as a result, but I want you to know that your content is truly appreciated!
    Your series actually got me trying the old games, and although I'm not at all averse to "older" games (I remember beating DQ I-IV, and how that really shaped my patience for RPGs in general, even to this day), I unfortunately just can't appreciate the older MegaTen games, which makes your videos on the older games that much more valuable to me.
    However, it did get me to play Soul Hackers on the 3DS, a game I've been putting off for a long time since the first few hours just didn't at all jive with me and get me interested. Once I saw your Devil Summoner vid, it got me in the "right" state of mind to actually appreciate it now, to the point that I'm commenting this when I know I'm gonna face the final boss in a few hours (I will NG+ for the new content, though).
    It also makes me bummed that there are no more Devil Summoner games, aside from the Raidou games (which I've already finished).
    Anyway, thanks again for everything you do! And I hope your sanity is well...

  • @Naterkix
    @Naterkix Před 3 lety +41

    My trip to Ariake was great! I played some slots, did some drugs, almost died and got my dog killed in some weird demon fight club!
    10/10, would partake in weird debauchery and dog fights again

  • @jericksoncompositions
    @jericksoncompositions Před 3 lety +5

    I love how, in the thumbnail, Pazuzu looks like hes trying to subtly wave to a long forgotten lover, wondering how life would be if they were still in Pazuzus life.

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks so much Marsh for going through this! Tomorrow I will watch this while drawing and I will write something for relevant to the vid, but for now I just wanna thank your huge effort and for finishing this daunting endeavor!!!🙏💖

  • @foxhound6364
    @foxhound6364 Před 3 lety +3

    I was not expecting this so soon! Your videos have easily become my most anticipated stuff on CZcams, even more than RLM's Best of the Worst shows.

  • @UnnamedVibesTree
    @UnnamedVibesTree Před 3 lety +18

    I think The Castle actually IS Tokyo Disneyland tho...like Tokyo "Destinyland" in SMT 1?

  • @madpaladin305
    @madpaladin305 Před 3 lety +3

    Man you're videos are fantastic i'm so happy someone plays classic Megami Tensei games and you are super interesting i must have seen this one start to finish at least 15 times already, keep it up you rock!

  • @rainyjay8156
    @rainyjay8156 Před 3 lety +1

    This has been a super well done video marsh. These are my fav/ most awaited videos atm on youtube. Your great at explaining the story and just all the little info to. Thank you and keep it up. :)

  • @bergkajian1257
    @bergkajian1257 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm addicted to your videos, you are amazing.

  • @MadDepot
    @MadDepot Před 3 lety +3

    hell yeah thank you!!!
    I'm honestly really glad you make this content because I absolutely love megaten but I really can't go back and play the older ones although I'm profoundly interested in them. with these videos you both give me long videos that make my sleepness nights easier AND you bring me into these retro journeys I wouldn't be able to go on alone

  • @orwell_fan
    @orwell_fan Před 3 lety +5

    I love this, thanks dude, you just made my night !

  • @remusventanus5341
    @remusventanus5341 Před 3 lety +1

    Respect for the patience and diligence to finish this! Eagerly awaiting your next upload. Cheers!

  • @lehwSwBp
    @lehwSwBp Před 3 lety +1

    You're experience videos always made me fall in love more with the MegaTen series . They always make me pretty happy

  • @_Claus_
    @_Claus_ Před 3 lety +6

    Yesterday I was wondering about you, if you had uploaded without me getting a notification or something. This was a really nice surprise to wake up to. Thanks for the content

  • @bobgray6498
    @bobgray6498 Před 3 lety +35

    This game seems wild. Can you imagine if this was released in America back then? lol I loved the video

    • @theazureknight9399
      @theazureknight9399 Před 3 lety +22

      80s America's mainstream media would flip for sure.

    • @ianr7014
      @ianr7014 Před rokem +5

      @Every Woman Jobs To The Wall This is the same US that flipped its collective shit when Mortal Kombat came out.
      You’re vastly underestimating how worse things were back then lmao

    • @AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm
      @AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm Před rokem +2

      @@ianr7014 nah nah nah you gotta dig deeper. Imagine losing your shit over a yellow rat. Conservatives hated Pokémon.

    • @ianr7014
      @ianr7014 Před rokem +2

      @@AdrianGonzalez-sh7qm Pokemon was the 90s, though. Before that, the big thing was Dungeons and Dragons lmao
      Conservatives would’ve firebombed the offices of whatever company in the US tried to distribute the game

    • @jimmywhite6863
      @jimmywhite6863 Před rokem +4

      If this game had been localized back then, it would have been heavily censored to remove/edit any satanic references. There would probably even be huge changes to the story and the box art would be completely redone for sure.

  • @TopSchierke
    @TopSchierke Před 3 lety +2

    Your videos give me life, thank you so much for these long form analysis and summary of more obscure megaten games

  • @makingfiendsfan1177
    @makingfiendsfan1177 Před 3 lety +1

    I was so excited when I saw this video pop up. This video was really good, really satiated some curiosity I had about the game. Can’t wait to see what you put out next

  • @professionalfangster1510
    @professionalfangster1510 Před 3 lety +5

    Mr. Marshall, you truly have inspired me. You've shown me that you don't need hyper-editing and an amazing setup to be a good youtuber, but just good and straight to the point content. I love your videos. I will always support you. Good day to you, sir, and have a great week.

    • @DracXBelmont
      @DracXBelmont Před 3 lety

      this is true for like, a lot of youtubers, though.

  • @razorthecurse
    @razorthecurse Před 3 lety +5

    Man, as I keep saying in all your videos man, thanks for making them. It's literally just you playing through the game and talking about it, but it's chill. Can't wait for the next review, as I was fucking lucky to even see this one pop up. Keep it up Marsh~

  • @TheKHC
    @TheKHC Před 3 lety +1

    Once again, fantastic work. It's really interesting to see how you approach any given situation. Great stuff

  • @Ratta212
    @Ratta212 Před 3 lety +2

    You have no idea how much i love these videos

  • @gwelengu
    @gwelengu Před 2 lety +8

    Wow these videos are like the perfect LP format to experience the game without playing it. Cool game

  • @V0ID115
    @V0ID115 Před 3 lety +51

    "I never have to see a rendition of this place (Micon) again
    ... Until I play kyuuyaku at least"
    *HAPPY KYUUYAKU MEGAMI TENSEI FAN NOISES*

  • @capcanal4484
    @capcanal4484 Před 3 lety +1

    Return of the king
    This video was worth the wait, great job dude! Keep up the good work

  • @Kidrobin
    @Kidrobin Před 3 lety +1

    Keep this series up man ! Its amazing and your helping open up the world to more SMT before the 5th instalment. Instant subscribe !

  • @jarrayplayz2142
    @jarrayplayz2142 Před 3 lety +6

    Dang bro, 2 months, that’s some dedication. Thanks for the content!

  • @BladeNinja
    @BladeNinja Před 3 lety +3

    Dude I love your videos! As a big fan of SMT games it's always amazing to hear someone and their experiences with the franchise. Plus your videos are fun to watch with some amazing commentary!

  • @ShadowRohanX
    @ShadowRohanX Před 3 lety +2

    With how little these games are covered on CZcams your reviews are great to watch and absorb

  • @caninacan5874
    @caninacan5874 Před 3 lety +1

    Marsh thanks for making the time putting my desk fun with you god like commentary, made it a lot more fun

  • @Philemon_Logos
    @Philemon_Logos Před 3 lety +5

    Another Fantastic video. Excited for the Soul Hackers Experience, that one’s in my Top 5 favorite Megaten games.

  • @alex940127
    @alex940127 Před 3 lety +3

    This is 10/10 content for any SMT fan.
    For those who want to know how things started, your channel is the best, since there is little content translated from the first games (at least here on CZcams).
    It was difficult to hear your voice in some parts, but nothing serious if using headphones.
    Thank you very much for your work!

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 Před 3 měsíci

    I first saw this July 4th 2021, a little over a month before my life changed drastically, thanks marsh, you’ve really been here when I need some comfort CZcams, these videos are so great wether it’s life, smt bs, or anything stressing me out, your the best quick fix

  • @wills4579
    @wills4579 Před 3 lety +1

    This was definitely worth the wait, I'm so happy you were able to finish it and I really enjoyed the video