Dark Justiciar Shadowheart returns to overthrow Viconia DeVir | Baldur's Gate 3

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  • @thebloodlyrage6927
    @thebloodlyrage6927 Před 10 měsíci +765

    That ending. "I am Lady Shar's instrument. You can not win" Four critical roles.

    • @_fowlplay_
      @_fowlplay_ Před 10 měsíci +38

      That was so scary, I dare not face it

    • @crunchyoats1862
      @crunchyoats1862 Před 10 měsíci +90

      might be a mod or something, the dice roll in conversation was a 20 too, that's 5 20s in a row

    • @rivendzi
      @rivendzi Před 10 měsíci +2

      I felt that

    • @moona_ttv
      @moona_ttv Před 10 měsíci +41

      To be fair if they were trying all endings and put a dice mod in - to guarantee the story to go accurately for these videos ❤ I can understand putting a mod in for it lol 😂 no one would want to failed the dice rolls mid recording just to have to restart it 😂

    • @bfrobin446
      @bfrobin446 Před 9 měsíci +7

      I saw one attack roll, not four. The “Critical Hit” message repeats for each effect that adds bonus damage to the hit.

  • @firefox30570
    @firefox30570 Před 10 měsíci +356

    "Im the biggest shar simp!"
    "No! I am the biggest shar simp!"

  • @tanory07
    @tanory07 Před 5 měsíci +85

    A bhaalspawn, dark justiciar, demigod, and slaver walk into a bar ..

  • @GRIMHOOD99
    @GRIMHOOD99 Před 9 měsíci +387

    Not gonna lie this fight as a redeemed SH is tough as balls because of constant darkness casting and bonechills.

    • @michaelreilly6621
      @michaelreilly6621 Před 9 měsíci +33

      Yeah that sucked as a caster lol, but none of that compared to the Mother Superior’s ultimate ability at the end of the fight: send Shadowheart to jail.

    • @mauberni
      @mauberni Před 9 měsíci +15

      Yeah, the daylight spell does wonders though. They cast multiple darkness spells and you only need one to dispel most if not all of them.

    • @kalicula7718
      @kalicula7718 Před 9 měsíci +30

      I changed Selune Shadowheart to a light domain cleric when she bleached her hair. It was great both thematically, and her new channel divinity was amazing for this fight.

    • @Palumtra
      @Palumtra Před 9 měsíci +6

      I just run back to the door and cast wall of fire on the stairs before closing it, and most enemies died before they could even come close, Viconia herself was half dead (with her Sanctuary buff still intact) by the time she got up,and the rest of the survivors died from a couple of fireballs.

    • @Darkhunter190able
      @Darkhunter190able Před 9 měsíci +6

      we retreated to the stairs and cast wall of fire and hunger of hadar all the way up the stairs. They all died.

  • @cen3684
    @cen3684 Před 8 měsíci +47

    gale 🤝 Sheart "i know my goddess better than anyone "

  • @N4MELEZ
    @N4MELEZ Před 10 měsíci +488

    Your party looks like a bunch of pure hearted good people 😅

    • @TheCr0oked1
      @TheCr0oked1 Před 10 měsíci +22

      Uuuuuuh.....thats the dark urge

    • @VDA19
      @VDA19 Před 10 měsíci +175

      Your honor, my client, the Dark Urge, is just being a silly goose. He didn't mean to brutally murder all these people.@@TheCr0oked1

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc Před 9 měsíci +36

      @@VDA19"I'll fuckin' do it again!" -Goofy the Dark Urge

    • @Korksbebig
      @Korksbebig Před 9 měsíci +1

      Being good is kinda meh.

    • @graysonwilson3343
      @graysonwilson3343 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@JB-xl2jc “a hyuk!” Why do I want to play Durge with a mod to play as Goofy and fully voice acted?

  • @KuroshiKun
    @KuroshiKun Před 8 měsíci +169

    Always cool to see scenes that'd never ever happen because I'd never have shadowheart be a dark justiciar lol

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee Před 8 měsíci +10

      Me neither, she’s too annoying for me.

    • @silvercat18
      @silvercat18 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Its the way i went - full justiciar and went back to the temple with a real "god sent me" feel. Shar all the way.

    • @aegisScale
      @aegisScale Před 4 měsíci +13

      Shar is such a cringe goddess tbh💀💀💀

    • @allygearmode6335
      @allygearmode6335 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@silvercat18 Agreed. Only deity route that was fun for me, the rest just felt cheesy and uninspired.

    • @Anotherguy1st
      @Anotherguy1st Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@aegisScale Doesn't seem so bad to me, most of the Good deities are boring as hell

  • @cryotenshi
    @cryotenshi Před 3 měsíci +11

    "She slew a helpless prisoner, deep in an ancient ruin. Perhaps that warrants Shar's blessing"
    bruh, I haven't done evil playthrough but now I want for that sole option of dialogue 😅

  • @MortSalazar
    @MortSalazar Před 9 měsíci +29

    Shar's is such a "They have it therefore i want it"
    Really just the insufferable sister except not only towards Selune xd

  • @The19Scout97
    @The19Scout97 Před 10 měsíci +146

    I feel sorry for the dude that just ate 4 critical hits at the end! xD

    • @odst123451
      @odst123451 Před 10 měsíci

      Yea, she was like “Fuck you!”

    • @stygianabyss1386
      @stygianabyss1386 Před 8 měsíci +4

      The comedic timing on the cut was perfect

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Lack of crit blockers does that. She uses a debuff on SH to make her every hit she does makes a critical hit.

  • @michaels5217
    @michaels5217 Před 10 měsíci +39

    Oh Vicky, what have they done to you?

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Před 9 měsíci

      The Aloy treatment xD

    • @YouTubeCensorshipStinks
      @YouTubeCensorshipStinks Před 2 měsíci +2

      I thought I hated what they did to her in Dragon spear, but this is even worse.

  • @Keram-io8hv
    @Keram-io8hv Před 10 měsíci +137

    Played with Selune Shadowheart and was interesting to see my BG3 wife going against my BG2 wife (even the contiunity is bit rough, because in my universe she was bit death)

    • @drkinferno72
      @drkinferno72 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Threeway can solve this dispute 😂

    • @Keram-io8hv
      @Keram-io8hv Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@drkinferno72 Could be foursome if they added Gorion's Ward

    • @iranicus3393
      @iranicus3393 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@Keram-io8hv Elminster would likely show up and want a piece of the action too

  • @jonnyboy0127
    @jonnyboy0127 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I'm lady shars instrument!
    That poor lad. " wait wait wait no!"

  • @tucan6376
    @tucan6376 Před 9 měsíci +14

    casually gets a double nat 20

  • @crumblyairship
    @crumblyairship Před měsícem +1

    that entire exchange was just who is a bigger Shar d-rider

  • @Azr4el
    @Azr4el Před 9 měsíci +41

    It makes no sense lorewise that Viconia fights Shadowheart when she announces she is Shar's chosen, in the playthrough where she goes to Selune Viconia says that Shadowheart was groomed all her life to be Shar's chosen and that Shar herself appeared to Viconia and ordered her that, so why she acts surprised when Shadowheart returns and claims the title?

    • @Mattheq
      @Mattheq Před 9 měsíci +36

      I don't think she's surprised, she's unhappy and in denial

    • @peters8512
      @peters8512 Před 9 měsíci +55

      Viconia's diaries discuss this. She has raised Shadowheart for 40 years and given her special treatment on Shar's orders (special treatment for better and worse), but she's not happy about it. She worries that she is training her own replacement and that she will once again lose everything she has built. She probably hopes she can push Shadowheart back into submission, wipe her memories and hold onto power another hundred years telling herself that Shadowheart wasn't ready.

    • @xdervin6114
      @xdervin6114 Před 9 měsíci +32

      It's because she despises Shadowheart. Shar ordered Viconia to kill her entire sect that she founded and told her to start over and find, kidnap, and groom shadowheart to be shars chosen she's jealous of her and in denial and blames shadowheart for the sacrifices she had to make on shars orders.

  • @AntoinePelissier
    @AntoinePelissier Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love that path too, it was the one I did in my first playthrough I went full evil and it was cool

  • @glashoppah
    @glashoppah Před 7 měsíci +2

    The War of the Emos.

  • @NikemanBOOM
    @NikemanBOOM Před 5 měsíci +1

    That poor guy, getting crit'd at the very end.

  • @guifire9747
    @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +86

    Still weirded out by Viconia, Sarevok going back to his own ways didn't surprise me that much, but Viconia? Even in the original game she was a follower of Shar by name mainly, she didn't seem too personally involved with the religion, and now, after being geared towards good and leaving Shar, she get back to the religion as a fanatic while she never was one in the past? That's a weird turn of event

    • @drkinferno72
      @drkinferno72 Před 10 měsíci +38

      A lot can happen in 100 years

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +26

      @@drkinferno72 Sure but it's a game, so if you want to have a character fill a certain role like here, either create a new one, or then give a really good explanation for a character personality making a 180 (especially for player who actually got out of their way for her redemption), 'cause here it seems like they used Viconia for the hype (she's a popular character) instead of using because her character filled the role
      That as if Jaheira became evil without any explanation of why, you can't just handwave character development to "shit happened"

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse Před 10 měsíci +54

      There's some dialogue you can eventually get to that explains it. Shar communicated to Viconia directly and told her destroy her old coven, and create a new one specifically aimed to abduct Shadowheart and brainwash her so Shar could turn a Selunite into her Chosen.

    • @troller8680
      @troller8680 Před 10 měsíci +10

      ​@@guifire9747the only way her redemption was possible is through romance, and this way ends with her being assassinated.

    • @naz-ghul6327
      @naz-ghul6327 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@troller8680 not realy true. Read her ending when she is in party but not romanced. He starts a temple of shar, but then purges it after a rebelion against her, throws shar away, travels up with drizz and in the end helps the elf queen and gets blessing of selune. Maybe its not full redemption, but its not compatible with the BG3 viconia....

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 Před 10 měsíci +79

    I'm pretty sure my wife Viconnia abandoned this part of her life

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +12

      If i'm not mistaken, a romanced Viconia is supposed to get assassinated at one point no?

    • @gingergreenmashups
      @gingergreenmashups Před 10 měsíci +33

      ​@@guifire9747yup, if you romanced her, her epilogue says she was killed by lolth assasins

    • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
      @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 Před 10 měsíci

      @@gingergreenmashups its not really canon based off how the books are said

    • @gingergreenmashups
      @gingergreenmashups Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 books are nowhere close to being canon

    • @allenknight2444
      @allenknight2444 Před 10 měsíci

      just mod

  • @rolandsalzmann6158
    @rolandsalzmann6158 Před 10 měsíci +7

    you... get people to help you? But... what about the epic fight? It was such a crazy brawl!

  • @idellius7505
    @idellius7505 Před 10 měsíci +97

    I wonder why Larian chose to age her up so much here. It's only been like around a hundred or so years since the events of BG 1 and 2. I understand Jahiera looking older because that would put her around 150 -- which is definitely towards the end of the lifespan of a half elf, but for Viconia, a century wouldn't be near as impactful to her. Would have loved to have been able to get her back in my party too since she was definitely my favorite NPC from the old games. Turning her into a character you just mow over makes me feel bad for her too. : /

    • @gingergreenmashups
      @gingergreenmashups Před 10 měsíci +20

      same, she was my fav too. I can't help but feel she deserved better

    • @PlayerSkillFTW
      @PlayerSkillFTW Před 10 měsíci +29

      Yep, Elves can live 700 years, and spellcasting Elves can live even longer, especially Drow.
      So 120 years for Viconia, would be like going from early 20s to early 30s for a human female. She looks more like mid 40s-early 50s here. Definitely not the sultry vixen she once was.

    • @LithK.-gf4bf
      @LithK.-gf4bf Před 10 měsíci +23

      @@gingergreenmashups At this point it is obvious Larian did not give a single fuck about the old Baldur's Gate games. Why even bring back Vic or Sarevok if you are going to retcon or use them as throw away bad guys.

    • @neochrzeo8561
      @neochrzeo8561 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@PlayerSkillFTW Shar is the lady of loss no of longlivety

    • @PlayerSkillFTW
      @PlayerSkillFTW Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@neochrzeo8561 Matron Mother Yvonnel Baenre was the High Priestess of Lolth, and she lived to 2,043 years old before being killed, which is well beyond the typical elf lifespan.

  • @Mounthuapleb5890
    @Mounthuapleb5890 Před 10 měsíci +46

    I see... so viconia didnt end up with bg1 and 2 bhaalspawn..as my canon demanded.

    • @LightStreak567
      @LightStreak567 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Not true, you can believe that your BG1 and 2 character found a Tablet of Reawakening to bring her back from the dead (I believe it for my BG1 and 2 character). Remember, not romancing her does not change her fate set in stone by her backstory, because no matter what you do, Lolth still wants her dead for renouncing her and turning to Shar. Her non-romanced epilogue in Throne of Bhaal implies she might be dead, because after saving an elven settlement, no one has seen or heard from her since then. Think about it, Lolth does not anticipate your BG1&2 character to find a way to bring her back from the dead, so with Viccy resurrected, she is no longer marked for death because Lolth isn't aware she is alive again.

    • @ValkoinenShiro
      @ValkoinenShiro Před 10 měsíci +22

      Sadly it's a familiar name slapped on instead of actually exploring the character and her potential endings. There's others, let's say without spoilers, but this one hits hard if you are a fan of her in the originals.

    • @toprak3479
      @toprak3479 Před 10 měsíci +21

      ​@@ValkoinenShiro ​ She was my favourite companion in BG2. Her appearance here is handled pretty badly and hurts my headcannon.
      (By appearance, I mean taking part in the story, not physical appearance, though that also isn't how I would've imagined)

    • @idellius7505
      @idellius7505 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@LightStreak567 I would argue Lolth would have a great deal of trouble killing her after charname ascends to godhood if the player goes that route. It's very conceivable she could live out the rest of her life with a god of comparable power to Lolth watching over her.

    • @LightStreak567
      @LightStreak567 Před 10 měsíci

      @@idellius7505 Gorion's Ward ascending to godhood can't happen, Wizard's of the Coast will never canonize a character that can be customized by a thousand players to become a deity. Their main rule for Forgotten Realms authors and game developers to follow is that their characters can't do anything that will drastically change the Forgotten Realms, the outcomes of their adventures have to be limited in scope. If Gorion's Ward ascended to godhood, we would have seen or heard about him or her in a 3rd, 4th or 5th Edition sourcebook.

  • @MrDoze14
    @MrDoze14 Před 8 měsíci

    When the boss used sanctuary I just spammed fireballs till she died before she did anything lol

  • @Mohnatchenko
    @Mohnatchenko Před 10 měsíci +69

    I hope this fight can be avoided. Have no desire to whack good old Viconia, one my chars from BG2 will never forgive if i'll kill the love of his love. C'mon, he even cleansed her from vampiric taint and brought her back from the dead!

    • @Mic_Glow
      @Mic_Glow Před 10 měsíci +23

      You can spare her and let her go. I guess both in selune and shar SH options
      BUT.. she does drop a legendary shield so....

    • @captsmollett
      @captsmollett Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@Mic_Glow You can loot her and then spare her, it's not mutually exclusive.

    • @Mic_Glow
      @Mic_Glow Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@captsmollett I guess... Sadly the non-lethal toggle in my game is bugged, a lot of toggles are actually.. they don't show up

    • @redpriest26
      @redpriest26 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Mic_Glow I didn't have non-lethal turned on and you don't land a killing blow on her - I threw tons of fireballs around her while she was downed and it didn't kill.

    • @njmfff
      @njmfff Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Mic_Glow You don't have to do non-lethal, she will get knocked out to 1hp and be out of fight, and after you kill everyone else, you can talk to her and there will be the option to either kill her or tell her to GTFO. However I am not sure if she drops the loot if you spare her, because she has her legendary shield and mace.
      The only time I had to use non-lethal was with Minsc, otherwise you kill him and Jahira gets pissed and leaves your party permanently.

  • @Blackbeard069
    @Blackbeard069 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Viconia should have joined after seeing that Shadowheart became Shar's chosen. They should have left BG's best companion (Viconia) alone instead of bringing her back for this...

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Read her diary. She was always jelaous of SH. Wanted to be chosen of Shar not raising one.

    • @starhalv2427
      @starhalv2427 Před 6 měsíci +4

      ​@@ladyselin35
      That's Viconia? Someone who lost everything and everybody she cared about and in that darkest moment was saved by Shar, ignoring Shar's will because... she's jealous for power? 😂
      That must be an impostor, no way it's the same Viconia from BG2

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 Před 6 měsíci

      @@starhalv2427 She was obssessed th it at first. I think Elder brain had somethng to do with it. Viconia was watchng Gortashs activities closely. When Elder brain slipped the information about whereabouts of the artefact Emperor, Viconia , Vlakith joined the game. It was like a chess. Viconia made a team to hunt artefact. Hoped Shadowheart wouldve get killed during mission.

  • @Mattheq
    @Mattheq Před 8 měsíci

    Honestly thought that Justiciar Crusader she attacks in the last few seconds was called Owlatron...

  • @Rogan35
    @Rogan35 Před 4 měsíci +1

    i smell some retconning here

  • @MurakamiTenshi
    @MurakamiTenshi Před 10 měsíci +20

    Wut, I don't remember Viconia being this fanatical about religion. She refused to kill a baby in the name of Lolth, after all.

    • @ce5122
      @ce5122 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yep… she even defied shar and went on to save an elven city with drizzt. They threw that all away just to make her another token villain you meet and kill in the same breath.

    • @thisislame2207
      @thisislame2207 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@ce5122 Minsc and Boo's Journal of Villainy is where a lot of the Baldur's Gate character lore changes happened between BG2 > BG3. Blame WOTC for butchering your BG characters because if that books exists then I'm not surprised if WOTC fucked with Viconia in some way.

    • @raphezar2049
      @raphezar2049 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@thisislame2207 > WOTC
      Yeaaah, no surprises.

    • @thisislame2207
      @thisislame2207 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@raphezar2049 Yeah, Larian had to work with what their publishers wanted/had done. I am honestly surprised that Larian was still able to make this good of a game despite WOTC's fuckery.

  • @akihikosakurai4013
    @akihikosakurai4013 Před 2 měsíci

    5:17 it would be an instant restart if that happened to one of my guys lmfao

  • @brucelv1995
    @brucelv1995 Před 7 měsíci +1

    L'il Alurl! What's this mean? Minthara shouts this in battle too.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 7 měsíci +2

      It's Drow for: "The best". In the original trilogy, Viconia's battle cry was: "L'il Alurl for Shar!" which literally means: "The best for Shar".

  • @ShadowmarkReturns
    @ShadowmarkReturns Před 10 měsíci +24

    So Viconia didn't turn away from Shar? I remember that's something you can influence in the original games.

    • @AlesSimoncia
      @AlesSimoncia Před 10 měsíci +20

      in the original games she becomes good only if you romance her, but if that happens she dies in the ending.

    • @abitdodgy2844
      @abitdodgy2844 Před 10 měsíci +25

      ​@@AlesSimonciaShe becomes good too if you dint romance her. She helped Drizzt defending Suldanesselar from Zhentarim and then vanished never to be seen again

    • @idellius7505
      @idellius7505 Před 10 měsíci +6

      There was dialogue in Throne of Bhaal where you could ask her to be your first priest after you ascend. She seems amenable to the idea when you talk about it, but It's left ambiguous in the prologue if you do choose the god route. She did in my headcanon though. XD

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Especially weird since even as a Shar's follower, she was never fanatic about it, she was in the religion by name mainly

    • @gingergreenmashups
      @gingergreenmashups Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@abitdodgy2844there's a reference to that, in the room where Nocturne stays (shadowhearts friend) there are some jewels they comment on. they mention they were given to viconia in suldanesselar but they're not sure if she was happy to have them (or something along those lines)

  • @commiesquid4620
    @commiesquid4620 Před 10 měsíci +26

    The ending is why you get adamantine armor asap

    • @moona_ttv
      @moona_ttv Před 10 měsíci +1

      I have that armor as a druid and I die a lot... I rely too much on my animal forms 🥺🥲🤌🏻

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Před 8 měsíci

      Useless, this fight is a complete joke even on tactician if you went the dark justiciar path

    • @raphezar2049
      @raphezar2049 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@coops1992 I mean... Fucking duh?

    • @shadowcastyt
      @shadowcastyt Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@coops1992 yeah… I found this to be stupid hard on the Selûnite path but this seems almost comical on the Dark Justiciar path

  • @dwpetrak
    @dwpetrak Před 6 měsíci

    So, my game bugged when Shart fought me over the Nightsong. I defeated her with passive damage, then tried to pick up her body and it disappeared. I haven't had her since.
    In this case, I ...wandered in to the temple and was attacked immediately. Thanks a Wall of Fire, Cloud Kill and silence at the bottom of the stairs I melee'd 2 justiciars and shot 2 others that attacked form the wings. I never got to see what DeVir does. Easiest fight in the game!

  • @xcenic
    @xcenic Před 10 měsíci +15

    The real problem with larian and the last chapter of every game is the rushed and the lack of inspiration, WHY THE HECK every approach need to end on a damn fight? You pass 2 or even 3 check and what? FIGHT. I dont want to fking fight every group i encounter. So different than the chapter 1 and mid chapter 2.

    • @KingOfHeroes1996
      @KingOfHeroes1996 Před 9 měsíci +12

      To be fair I found this one to be cool, because those checks were Shadowheart convincing more and more of the Sharrans to follow her, which feeds into her power fantasy of being Shar’s Chosen, carrying out her will and purging the mother she’s had so much pent up hate for over the years.

    • @swancrunch
      @swancrunch Před 9 měsíci +1

      that depends on the path you took. there is a way to get Viconia friendly with sharrans helping at the final fight

    • @fellowtraveler2251
      @fellowtraveler2251 Před 7 měsíci

      Vampire Bloodlines had the same issue because it too suffered from a rushed back-half. Both games got very railroaded at the end and make excessive use of combat encounters to compensate for the lack of rp.

  • @camryds
    @camryds Před 8 měsíci

    Easiest Fight Ever... cast silence on her, and kill her.... entire group will be passive and then you can warp out

  • @eln6545
    @eln6545 Před 10 měsíci +25

    Its not Viconia from bg 1 and 2.. no. My heart is broken. Why Larian, why!?...

    • @Mic_Glow
      @Mic_Glow Před 10 měsíci +2

      People can change... bg3 takes place what, 100 years after bg2? She probably went trough some dark stuff.
      At least it's not a change over few weeks like in GoT -_-

    • @eln6545
      @eln6545 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Mic_Glow in old bg games voice made her character in fact. especially in bg2 soa. I this Grey made great job by playing Viconia.
      Yes. But elves live for 1000 years or something near that. I dont think that she could change that much. It would be better if she had scar or something like that..

    • @troller8680
      @troller8680 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@eln6545but how exactly was he changed from her non redemption path?

    • @stevy2
      @stevy2 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think she's formed creases from frowning all those years.

    • @solaris4019
      @solaris4019 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Mic_Glow BLA, BLA, BLA, LARIAN DESTROY CHARACTER VICONIA.

  • @midwestmage7173
    @midwestmage7173 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Big thing they failed on with her. I see nothing of the character from 1&2, didn't even recognize her. Not even after hearing her name.

  • @Shimpriv
    @Shimpriv Před 10 měsíci +16

    I'm butthurt over Viconia portrayal, so i'll mod her name to be something else. It's not her anyway, just someone's fanfic of a character.

    • @christophercolasurdo919
      @christophercolasurdo919 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Boohoo a character changed over the course of a century

    • @lordmarwolaeth4570
      @lordmarwolaeth4570 Před 9 měsíci +2

      So guess you are calling this WOTC fanfic then because that's pretty much on them for wanting her back that way.

    • @markgraham5971
      @markgraham5971 Před 8 měsíci

      Viconia had a button nose and rounder eyes originally, I can see this Viconia just as an imposter since everyone has their memories wiped anyway.

  • @user-nw9pd9bc9i
    @user-nw9pd9bc9i Před 6 měsíci

    So, nobody will talk two 20 in one roll? Okay

  • @GodKitty677
    @GodKitty677 Před 5 měsíci

    In Viconia DeVir ending in BG2 did she not cleanse Lady Shar's church of the whole tanted lot.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 5 měsíci

      That was in Waterdeep. Her journals in BG3 talk about this. All of the stuff that happened in Waterdeep and Suldanessalar is mentioned.

  • @SchooledSavage
    @SchooledSavage Před 2 měsíci

    My party: ascended Astarion, Illithid Minthara, Dark Justiciar SH and me, DU 😂

  • @raistlin3462
    @raistlin3462 Před 7 měsíci

    Did Shar brainwash Viconia from her BG2 self into this fanatic crone?
    Given Evil Shadowheart scene with her parents, I'm inclined to believe so.

  • @mathieuseres49
    @mathieuseres49 Před 8 měsíci +2

    How did you kept Gale in evil run???

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Před 8 měsíci

      Cause just like Shadowheart he has option to turn evil, especially into necromancy.

  • @Gintokichad
    @Gintokichad Před 8 měsíci

    Howd you get that armor for shadowheart I see so many people with it but never found it myself

    • @PerfectParadox
      @PerfectParadox  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think it might have been gotten from shars temple, possibly even specific to dark justiciar path but I honestly couldn't even say for sure I was just putting random stuff on in this playthrough

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 7 měsíci

      It's 1 of the rewards Shadowheart receives for killing the nightsong.

    • @slowbro-
      @slowbro- Před 4 měsíci

      Gsuntlet of shar, through silent lubrary

  • @seederra
    @seederra Před 6 měsíci +4

    I can never bring myself to let Shart go down the Shar route so thank you for sharing this with all us selune Shart simps :')

  • @blairshort1098
    @blairshort1098 Před 9 měsíci +4

    This is blasphemy, this is madness.
    Madness? THIS.. IS.. SHAR TAR!!

  • @Baragys
    @Baragys Před 10 měsíci +6

    Смысл? Зачем было возвращать, использовать имя, старого персонажа? Голос даже близко не Виконии, даже не постарались найти похожую актрису, у Виконии, был мягкий голос, у этой, звонкий как у девчонки

    • @Rowansfears
      @Rowansfears Před 8 měsíci

      У меня создалось такое ощущение, что новая актриса пыталась воспроизвести голос Грей Делизли, но получилась у нее не Викония, а Азула.

  • @goldenpony822
    @goldenpony822 Před 8 měsíci

    HUH Seems Viconia had a tough break up form BG2's MC.. what with embracing loss as an old woman and all that

  • @felipedobbs2256
    @felipedobbs2256 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Lilalur! For Shar! Vic is awsome!

  • @shmikal3464
    @shmikal3464 Před 10 měsíci +10

    doing this fight with selune shadowheart was not so fun XD

    • @crunchyoats1862
      @crunchyoats1862 Před 10 měsíci

      what i loved it, it was tough at first then i remembered to use channel divinity and it went off like a nuke, used it twice and it killed most of the cultists

    • @shmikal3464
      @shmikal3464 Před 10 měsíci

      ah i saved my channel divinity for the final fight, fair enough@@crunchyoats1862

    • @gingergreenmashups
      @gingergreenmashups Před 10 měsíci

      having a part member with summon 6 ghouls skill from the necromancy of thay book trivialised this fight for me. the ghoul paralysis triggered most of the time on sharran minions effectively taking them out of the encounter

    • @zeroexct
      @zeroexct Před 10 měsíci

      Flamewall + blackhole XD

    • @NanoLT
      @NanoLT Před 10 měsíci

      Selune is only happy to lend her aid czcams.com/video/Gb-3wk_u36g/video.html

  • @nekomiaou
    @nekomiaou Před 8 měsíci

    Oh, so you can not figth everyone in the temple ? Less XP then, but i did have to restart that figth two or three time with my redeemed dark urge monk and a Selune's priestesse Shadowheart.

  • @goldenalpaca3881
    @goldenalpaca3881 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is the fate of all servants of Shar, no matter how obedient. Viconia will be forced to face the afterlife ignored, with no final reward for her loyalty...forgotten like everything else. And so will Shadowheart in time, so fascinatingly tragic.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 7 měsíci +1

      Shar felt that Viconia betrayed her, so most likely she gets judged as one of the false. As a chosen, Shadowheart is most likely is immune to aging, like most chosen in the Realms, so long as she stays loyal to Shar and doesn't get mortally wounded, she could potentially live forever. If she were to be struck down, she would most likely transition into undead as one of the Shadowed and become even more powerful.

  • @vallangaard
    @vallangaard Před 3 měsíci

    Wow...Viconia really let herself go.

  • @lord_voldemorts_sex_slave
    @lord_voldemorts_sex_slave Před 7 měsíci +2

    I just find dark justiciar shadowheart so much cooler, than selunite shadowheart.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 7 měsíci +1

      That's because she is.

    • @allygearmode6335
      @allygearmode6335 Před 2 měsíci

      Hands down. Dark Justiciar Shadowheart sold me on this game + the sass included lol, it's incredible.

  • @starhalv2427
    @starhalv2427 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Lines like "I'm closer to Lady Shar than you could ever be" or "You're disgraced in lady Shar's eyes"...
    Viconia turned to this faith when she lost EVERYTHING- her family, her position, her brother who got turned into a drider. How can she be so calm when insulted like that?
    But instead of being insulted, she focuses only on... what? Political scheming to maintain her position?
    That's not Viconia, no way.

  • @extraswaggeroni
    @extraswaggeroni Před 8 měsíci +6

    Shadowheart's evil story is way more interesting than her good one. becoming Shar's chosen is way cooler than her becoming a SAHM. her "good" personality feels worse and she becomes more reliant on the Tav, losing the sharp independence she introduces herself with in Act 1.
    although I guess it doesn't matter because if you go full evil you just subjugate your allies anyways

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 Před 8 měsíci +10

      Shes not dependable to you shes just showing her vulnerable side to you. Shes still independed can perfectly live without you. She trusts you completely to share her insecurities. Not running away from her sadness or hiding it. Selunite Shadowheart is braver than Shar one. Because in Shars shes afraid of her wound , afraid of her past. Afraid to remember and face them.

    • @gkkk2735
      @gkkk2735 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Being willing to show your feelings to someone doesnt make you less independent, it just allows you to build a connection. Not to mention shes basically coming out of her shell after having been groomed and abused as a sharran before lol

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 6 měsíci +1

      Exactly. Boss babe Shadowheart is way more interesting than trad wife Shadowheart.

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 Před 6 měsíci

      @@MistyKathrine Because game treats Dark Justiciar path with nonsense logic. She shouldnt even attend to party. Her memory shouldve been wiped. Shar forbids emphaty and love and respect.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@ladyselin35 Without Viconia forcing her in front of the mirror, the days of her memories being wiped are over unless Shadowheart specifically wants it.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow Shadowheart completely lost her marbles in this version.

  • @drkinferno72
    @drkinferno72 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Viconia upgraded to cougar 😂

  • @BradleyMasten
    @BradleyMasten Před 23 dny

    Im Love. Goddesses, I pray im one.

  • @d.pedroii2940
    @d.pedroii2940 Před 10 měsíci +7

    It's drow's nature to be trash huh

  • @naljiaskal5004
    @naljiaskal5004 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I hate how they butchered one of my favorite BG2 characters here. I know they made Viconia align with the Wizards of the Coast canon - but I absolutely hate hat they made her a boring simplified villian. She was a much more complex character in BG2.

  • @Akutikun
    @Akutikun Před 10 měsíci +9

    Yeah...this isn't Baldur's Gate. This is bad fanfic trash. I'll look forward to a remake or proper sequel made with the engine some day.

    • @theinternetsightseer2935
      @theinternetsightseer2935 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Cry about it minority. 1 in literal millions. You don't matter.

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Před 9 měsíci

      I wonder how BG3 would look like if this was made purely by Americans like Starfield or Elden Ring by the Japanese. I guess we will never know.

    • @Hitoshuratdn
      @Hitoshuratdn Před 8 měsíci

      There is a mod called Baldur's Gate 2 Reloaded. Honestly I'm way more excited for that than BG3.

  • @MedievalFantasyTV
    @MedievalFantasyTV Před 10 měsíci +13

    This is why I think Baldur's Gate is overrated. They blatantly show how they ideologically hate attractive women. Viconia was attractive in BG 1 and 2 (like most female drow used to). She looks like a hag here. Also, if you played the originals, you will see that this scene is very out of character for her, and goes against established lore.
    I have been playing D&D for nearly thirty years, and I've played the original Baldur Gate series since the early 2000's.
    I have no intention of playing this game, and it has nothing on the originals.
    Overrated trash, this is almost like a pornographik parody of D&D.

    • @idellius7505
      @idellius7505 Před 10 měsíci +7

      She was definitely aged up way more than she should have been. 100 years for an elf is comparable to like a decade or less. I also found her behavior here to be out of character for her too, imo. The voice actor doesn't even sound remotely similar to the old one either, so I think Larian dropped the ball pretty hard with our girl here. They do treat Jahiera and Minsc well though, and the game has a lot of really good features. I don't regret playing it, and would definitely say it's worth a run even if you were a fan of the originals like us, especially if it goes on a steam sale at some point.

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +7

      You don't play it but you know for sure he doesn't have anything over the original? That makes no sense mate
      I can accept the argument for BG2, But past the nostalgy, BG1 isn't that great of a game, pass more time searching in huge ass area killing a thousand gnolls for almost nothing rather than actually playing a game, most side quest completely forgettable, no interaction whatsoever with the character in your party, it didn't age well at all and i would not advice anyone to play it currently apart from the lore to then play the way superior and better BG2
      Pretending BG1 is above BG3 is straight false
      PS: Tho i agree that Viconia was done dirty, not only her redemption is thrown out the windows (like Sarevok's but i find it easier to believe in his case) but even when she was a Shar's follower, she was never hardcore about it, seeing her as a fanatics is out of character for someone who mainly cared about herself first, the opposite of someone devoted to religion (and yes she shoudn't be that old-looking, a century for a drow is nothing)

    • @idellius7505
      @idellius7505 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@guifire9747 There was so much more nuance to her character too. Yes, she was rough around the edges, but that had a lot to do with the fact that everyone she'd ever met apart from her brother had betrayed her.
      It really just took the tiniest spark of kindness to end up uncovering a person who was surprisingly empathetic and deeply loyal. She never once betrays you despite having multiple opportunities where she'd benefit from it. I found her to be one of the best friends charname could make and arguably the best lover if you went that route as well.
      And yeah, seeing all of her best qualities gone and the character just reduced to a religious fanatic that drank too much of their cult's kool-aid is just sad. There was so much more to her than that.

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@idellius7505 You said it all, i don't like to go that way since they obviously put lot of work and love in their game, but it really seem like something someone who didn't play the original would come up with, even in my good-aligned party i kept Viconia around because she doesn't mind doing some good, she just never had the opportunity to do so when she was too focused staying alive
      She remind me of Morrigan in Dragon Age, rough when you don't know her, bad reputation, but a really awesome and fearsome ally when you actually go farther than the facade (and like Viconia, one of if not the best romance because of that reason)

    • @MedievalFantasyTV
      @MedievalFantasyTV Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@@guifire9747 I don't actually need to play BG3 to know the writing and writers quality is inferior to those in the originals. I just have to watch videos, and currently, there is no lack of BG3 videos.
      Granted, in BG1 you don't get to interact with your companions as much as in BG2. But that was never the point. BG1's strength lies in its plot. We wouldn't even have BG3 were it not for BG1's success, so I don't know what you're talking about. We wouldn't even have the scene in this video, since Viconia herself is a BG1 character.
      Of course, the pace and progression is slower in BG1, but you are judging it through modern lenses. When the game came out, people had longer attention spans and did not care so much about instant gratification. They took their pace.
      BG3 is D&D 5e after all, where everyone begin as a superhero, and a walking god by the end of the day. In BG1 you were just like every D&D character back then. A common person that becomes a hero, and eventually, a god in thei own right.
      I stand by my opinion, BG1 writing is superior to BG3, which, I believe, owes its success to advanced graphics and overly sexual tones. (Bear) sex sells, after all.

  • @300y1
    @300y1 Před 10 měsíci +6

    God damn, when I did this fight my Shadowheart spared nightsong and we had to fight the whole room of ~20 enemies. It was not fun, but eventually just funneled them into the top staircase with a Gale respecced as a sorc, used twin spell VI Lightning and ricocheted everyone to death. Super worth it to get the best ending for her (save her parents)

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I had unlocked the ilithid powers and used the black hole ability which is like a win button. The whole room gets sucked into one tiny spot and you just drop hell on them

    • @crunchyoats1862
      @crunchyoats1862 Před 10 měsíci

      i respecced shadowheart into a cleric of selune before this doing this part of her quest and her channel divinity ability dispels darkness and deals a shit ton of damage to the shar cultists

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 Před 10 měsíci

      @@crunchyoats1862 hahah I didnt even think of that. for some reason I was thinking she automatically "respecced" after her hair change, I thought selune and shar were both trickery domain lol