Surf n' Show "Quick Tips" choosing the right surfboard fin size Vlog Ep. 8
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- In this Vlog I answer frequently asked questions on our You Tube Blog and Insta posts about fins and fin sizes according to weight.
I talk about the draw backs for a surfer who wants to step into a Large fin from a Medium fin. I also talk a little about fin rake and how it affects the performance of a board. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
This is the best explanation on fins on CZcams! For years i always thought smaller fins are better. Even though id lose speed in turns and could rarely connect roundhouses. I started riding large fins a month ago and im surfing so much better now!
Yeah bro you definitely opened up my mind , I am going to try the large ones , nice point of view !! I love it !!!
Saying this was helpful is an understatement, you're videos have been of extreme help. Keep it up! Also I'm 5'8 155 lbs so it's great to see a perspective of someone my size, even though you're far better than me haha
Leandro Dias Stoked to hear our show is helping you!!! Cheers
I found this very educational. Would love to see more equipment breakdowns like this.
Thanks man, rad stuff!
I love your explanation of fins the effects of small changes and the knowledge of what our icons are riding and why +
the key takeaway, how can it help the everyday surfer progress and get over speed bumps along the way.
peace out
Your suggestion is EXACTLY what I do.
I'm 5"10 and 180lbs. I surf a 6"1 small wave performance short, with Mick Fanning Large Outers and the spare centre fin (Medium) from a tri-quad set of Matt Mayhem's. On my big wave 6"6 I run Medina Large Performers, but honestly, I think the Fannings would be better suited here, too, perhaps utilising the full set incl centre fin. I really like the tight feeling, as I'm not a good enough surfer yet to get the best out of a twitchy, loose feeling 'pivoty' type of fin setup. I feel actually that the neutral Medina Performers tend to lean towards the twitchy side, rather than the tight drawn-out turn side. And the Fannings just have so much speed. Catch waves so easily without the drag of the Larger centre fin, too.
Your channels is so awesome! Thanks for all the great info Noel
Finding the right set of fins can be very expensive. especially when the fins don't work?? OUCH!!! Mahalo for this video now I can experiment with what I already have and save me some cash!!!
Awosme as always Noel!! Great review on fins!! Helps me a lot!! 🤘🤘🤙
jose rivers Cheers... so stoked this episode helps you out.
Great info, fins are complex. It would be interesting to hear about people of different weight classes as well
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Amazing video Noel, thanks so much for the info.
Exactly the same height and weight as me...thanks for the tips. I'm playing with new quad fins for my baked potato and got a new single fin for my vernor. I've neglected to dig into fin combinations for a long time.
I really love this channel
these informational videos allow me to just listen while I work
Que Dableyou So stoked these reviews help you.
Liking your show Noel! Really fun to ride along and see all the boards and gear you guys are testing out. This is a cool vid as I've been playing with fins for the last year and I'm so surprised at how much fins can change how your board rides. I'm also surprised how much the "right" fins for you or your board is personal preference (like you're saying about riding large fins). I've played around and gone through a lot of different styles, dimensions, materials and feel pretty confident about what fins to choose depending on the board, conditions, or how I'm feeling for the day. Also wanted to leave the other readers with something Stretch pointed out about fins in an interview. He was saying that fins make up to 50% of the wetted surface of a board when it's on plane. So fins are a much bigger consideration than I think most of us think. Looking back, I really wish I'd experimented with fins a long time ago. I mean, I'm kinda pissed at myself for how many waves I must have caught and kinda wasted because I was riding crap/wrong fins. Like Noel said, have fun and try all kinds of fins!
Bryce Molenkamp Thanks for posting this for us all!!! So stoked your finding your fins.
Your channel is so awesome and helpful! This has inspired me to do some experimenting. Thanks heaps!
Mitchell Hills Yewww!!! That’s what our show is all about. Cheers
Loving the backdrop! You turned me on to large fins and it’s been great!
Geoff Koop Yewww!!!
conviced Noel, i will try large sides fins, and medium center fin, great review !!!
Blade Runner Yewww!! Let me know how it goes for you.
I am one of the converts from our discussions on CZcams, at 5'10 170lbs the move from medium to large has been such an improvement with my turning and drive. Again thank you for all of your information and expertise! ...oh, and using my old medium center fin really turned the grovel board on!
Vaughan Heilman So Sick thanks for posting your experiences.
Vaughan Heilman I'm the same weight and height as you. Do you ride 28L too?
Just bought the large reactor fin for my 5’4” dream machine from Roberts. I’m 5’8” 170. I usually ride medium k2.1. Can’t wait to see how it goes
Thanks Noel, you're the man.
This was an excellent video. Thank you!!
Hi Noel & thanks for helping me pick my new set of FCS II FINS = ''The Performer carbon'' and after I got them I got to spot Gabriel Medina take the world Title shredding the Performers carbon model at pipe !! ha ,ha . Best Amigo
Domingo Martinez My pleasure!!
Perfect break down mate
Cheers
Excellently explained. That was a knowledgeable video.
Some fcs2 sets come standard with smaller rears:
Sally, Super, Rusty, Firewire, Merrick, pyzel.
epic video as always Noel! Gunna try out some large fins!
Jack Buckingham Epic... let me know what you get and how they go for you. Cheers
Jack Buckingham This was great, been searching for "learning to surf at 50" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Feyvid Surfers Semitist - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my buddy got excellent results with it.
excellent as always. can you do a video on choosing the right amount of volume in a surfboard?
david laptop That’s a good one... maybe we will do one soon.
*Good stuff as always* 👍
Glad to have this high level instructions about fins here. Thanks mate! Quick question: I am exactly your size and oftentimes surf small beach breaks. To try this point of view, Can I use two large carver glass flex side fins with a medium performer core in the middle?
Super helpful mate 👍🏽
Well done man!
Very well done!
Great video just got MF fin in neo carbon in large i am 78 kg like the sound of getting a medium center fin for the small soft days was looking at getting the AM2 should save $100 😁😁👍
I tried out larger fins for a while but I don't shred quite like you. Seems like larger fins made it harder to cut back, let the tail slide out, wasn't having as much fun? Switched back to medium and I've been loving it.
Hi Noel... Great Video!
Will Hammond Stoked you liked it!!
Epic Noel, thanks
Damn Noel, you just sent my fin OCD into overdrive haha...thanks for the vids brutha..!!
kingsofmayhem Yewww!! Let me know what fins you running and how they work out for you.
I'm running either the Kinetic JP5 phase 4 large which is a pretty big fin with lots of drive and flex or the CI RTM tech 1. I'm 175lbs riding a 5'8" Proctor Monsta. I've spent so much money on fins in the past 2 years lol
kingsofmayhem Sounds like good fins.... I have not tried the Kinetic fins yet.
The Parko JP5 are quality fins and a few of the team guys swore by them but I don't think JS is making them anymore. I think most of the JS Team have pretty much jumped on FCS for some reason. I'm a Futures guy so only a couple of my old boards have FCS (old plugs).
In essence he uses a large upright fin on his rail with a thin tip for release combined with a smaller back fin...its basically the same fin area but he is transferring the mass to the side for acceleration, power and hold when he engages his rail. This depends on how thick the rail is at 18 “ .The mass of the back fin is decreased to free up the tail. . In other words.He is using a moderate version of the twin fin -stabilizer concept . The problem here is so and so Joe pro is doing this, but neither you nor myself surf like said pro. You have to choose what works best for you.Dialing fins is a lot of work and can be incredibly frustrating and time consuming.BUT its rewarding. I would recommend trying a ton of different fins first ,taking mental notes as you go. before sticking with just this. The plan shape , rocker ,contours and mass displacement on each board varies .With the price of fins these days ,its best to experiment with cheap used plastic ,templates first off E bay . Also never sell or get rid of your fins.You never know when you will need them.
That was gold info, thanks mate
Hey Noel,
I've got a 5'11 Pyzel Shadow and was wondering which fins would be the best for it. I mainly surf 1-3 foot waves with the occasional 4 footers and rare 5-6 footers. I'm 5'8 and 143 lbs. I'm contemplating mainly between medium John John Florence Tech Flex Future fins and Craig Anderson Black Stix.
Which fin do you think would be better?
Are there any other fin models you would recommend that would be better than these 2?
Noel, thanks for a greaaaat video! Hope you receive all those good vibes back, I bet you will. And I also think you would really like using Jordy Smiths Larges in the sides, and a medium of his in the center. A little more base than the AMs. And a little more flex, almost a straight 5 in the ride number and rakey as you like them. So a great mid point. Think it could work?
JorgeAndresCoppiano. That sounds like a great set up. I can’t find my Large Jordy’s so I will have to get a new pair. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews Noel have you been able to try that setup?
JorgeAndresCoppiano. Nope... still don’t have the L Jordy’s. I need to get a new pair.
This guys videos rule !
Hey Noel, i just got my brand new board and im looking for the perfect fcs2 fins for me. Im 150lbs, and ride 2-7ft waves, but my go to surf spot has a fast really short punchy wave which might play into the fins now that i see the video? I also would like to progress on those sharp turns, (im intermediate level). I bought a set of mick fanning carvers in Medium, not sure if theyre the ones i shouldve gone with now that i saw the vid. Thank you
Hi Noel, I'm a big fan of the Kolohe Andino fins. What futures fin would you say is most similar?
Hi Noel, thank you for all the video's on boards, glad I found this one as I did not know much about fins. I'm 5'7, 142 lbs, what future fins would you recommend? I think I'm intermediate, can carve down the line, but want to improve my top/bottom turns and cut backs. Can do these turns but are slower, and not strong or placing right weight. I'm thinking medium, but not sure what ride number to go towards or which model? Would be great to hear your advice, thank you.
Y 1 If you can only afford one set of fins then I recommend a set of Medium honeycomb. I like the AM1 for carving... nice and loose due to a smaller center fin. If you a good neutral set... I also like the Dane Reynolds fins... by Captain Fin... more affordable and Honeycomb
Gracias Amigo !
Noel we met at the OG Flyer release part! You gave me the Trace.
Will Hammond Epic I remember you Grom. How are you?
I'm well. Can I get a shout out in the next video, please?
Also the Trace is EPIC!
Will Hammond Sure if I can remember. How is the Trace Unit working for you?
It is working insane. I have got up to 15mph. I also put it on a Carver and it works great too.
Top 3 favorite surfers
Dane Reynolds, Slater, Parker Coffin or Mick Fanning
Hard to beat a honeycomb AM2. I have one that's 5 years old. It's still in heavy rotation.
Hey Noel this video is so helpful thanks so much !!.... Just a question what do you think of the thermotech construction?? I couldn't afford better fins so I went for the T1 thermotech for my Rocket 9. Keep It up 🤙🏼🏄
Andrea Bordoni I haven’t tried those yet but I am sure they work ok. There are some good affordable fin options out there that you should consider next time.
Captain Fin makes insane fins and very affordable... I like the Dane Reynolds Black Panthers.
Futures makes the Alpha series fins.... F8 or JJF fins.
FCSII makes the NEO Glass series... I like the Performers. Fins are just as important as surfboards so I recommend saving up a little cash and get a good affordable set. Cheers
I'm running R6's on my 6'0 Proformance Driver in good surf but looking for a step down fin that's fast yet loose in 2-5ft average surf. Would you recommend AM2 Alphas, HS2 Generations, F8 Blackstix or P8 Legacy's?
I'm 170lbs by the way
Hey Noel, I have the F8 blackstix for small and mushier days, if u had to choose just 1 other set to keep in your quiver what would u get in futures? Maybe AM2 honeycomb for bigger faster days? What if you could get 2 more sets? Eventually I’ll add 2 new sets.. I’m intermediate, weigh about 195, and will be surfing mostly punchy beach break 3-5 ft, but will need something for 4-8’ + point break playa negra. Thanks so much for your help
Joshua Elder AM2’s are a must have, I also like the JJF Techflex for peaky Beachies.... they are more upright so they will pivot faster.
hello ccan u please review volume in surfboard construction when ordering a custom board for a 5'7" 145lb experienced old man who loves beach breaks!!!!
Dingo Capo Classic... we will do a review on Volume soon.
Awesome explanation Noel! to clarify about Futures, I am 77kg 5'7 riding a dominator. Should I rely only on the ride number and get ALL large stiff fins for smaller surf? or to get a medium/smaller center fin like for FCS?
I like a smaller center fin with large side fins. All 3 L fins is way to tight.
Check my signature fins… they are super unique. You will freak on how good they go. Nothing out there like them. I make them in Raked, Neutral, and Pivot templates.
surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes
Hey Noel, thanks for all the videos. Of the FCS2 series: “reactor”, “performer”, “accelerator”, and “carver”, which would you recommend for slabs?
Boards with a lot of rocker I like the AM’s or Mick Fanning’s.
Thanks mate
Hey, I just got a happy 6.0 Pu, 29L as a step up from my daily og flyer 5.8. I'm 65kgs(1.76m) which means I'm on the verge between a S and M size fins. Plan for the step up is 4 to 6 foot Uluwatu style, down the line and barrels, carves type Indonesian surf. Do you recommend an M(I have some S AM3but might be too small for the waves. So in case S doesn't work , M would be enough or better L with a middle fin M for instance or just full M or L... Thanks. Joao
Joao TheWabi life Medium fins
Great!
Noel, thanks for the video! I am interested in jumping up to a large fin especially for weaker waves, but I am only 150-155 lbs. Any recommendations from Futures? I am looking at the Ando and the Freestone generation. Thanks!
Josh McCullers I recommend the Ando’s and they other high ride number fins for speed generating. The more flex you have the better they will work for your weight.
Hey Noel, great review! Do you think it would be possible to use 2 neo Carvers medium sides with the trailing fin a Kolohe medium? I find the 3 Carvers have a little too much hold and are a bit sticky out of turns.
Tim Hall Sure anything’s possible. Just try it... you have nothing to lose. That’s what i do... just try.
Will do Noel...slightly less tip in the Kolohe trailing fin and both templates reasonably similar.
Thanks Noel - love the show!
Quick question: Intermediate/Advanced surfer. Mainly surf performance type boards with quite a bit of rocker. What future fin will help in fatter waves? At the moment I just use AM2 honeycomb for all conditions, but it feels a bit stiff in fatter waves...
Paul van der Merwe How much do you weigh? What do you mean by stiff? Are you saying the board feels tight? Hard to turn or the fin construction feels stiff?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for getting back to me. 86kgs (i.e. 190lbs). Feels a bit unresponsive and like I can't get tight enough in the pocket. Hoping that I can resolve by changing fins
Paul van der Merwe Try the Legacy P8 or F8
I’m currently riding the first FCS II PERFORMER PC fin set and am not sure if I should get the FCS II KA fin set that you have shown. I’m starting to progress and get turns down, but really don’t know if it’s worth it to switch to the FCS II KA set on my JS Monsta box HyFi..would love your advice
Luke Wohl The performers have less rake compared to the KA fins so they will pivot faster. The KA fins will have more drive and will offer a little more speed through turns. If you want the best of both carving and pivot then stay with your Performers. The KA fins is a great addition to your fin quiver... use your Performers in peaky surf and the KA’s when the waves are a bit more lined up.
hi Noel your tha man! i love how well u know your stuff! Can u tell me why my Large Julian Wilson fins feel stiff and slow? I cant work it out ive tried them on a few boards now, but the Klohe Andino Mediums work awsome. Thanks Legend
Newy rat Stoked you like our show!!! The JW fins are stiff and lifeless because they are Fiberglass. I like the JW fin in bigger surf. You like the KA because they are Performance Core which has way more flex compared to Fiberglass fins like the JW.
Greetings from Panama, by the way.
Hey Noel- What's the closest Futures twin 2+1 set to the MR twin fins? Thx you for your time!
Looking to get a new fin setup and was wondering what would be best for reef breaks like trestles or tstreet. I have the FCS accelerators. But I feel like I could get on to them easier and quicker. I'm getting a pyzalien 2. It would be awesome if you could reply! Anyways love the videos man! I learn so much from you!
Hudson Jones P2 get the Pyzel fins... the are a Neutral Template so good carving and rail turns.
Surf n Show Reviews Medium or Large? I’m 6’1 175
According to this video, for larger surfer (90 kilos) , usually surf on small surf, would you recommend to take an XL fins?
aviv meir Large Tech Flex or fiberglass fins in solid surf and Honeycomb for small wave fins
Thanks for the info on fin characteristics. On another subject, can you tell me about the board stand that your board is on? If it is a commercial product, where can I buy one? Or did you make it yourself? Thanks so much.
Robert Dixon Boardraxx.com
Nice work, Noel! Let me ask you this.... how can you determine the rake of the fin? Is it the total area of the fin? FCS and Futures don't seem to list their rake. Using the naked eye just doesn't seem reliable enough. There has to be a better way. Any suggestions?
papa marban The Rake is the area of the fin that goes past the shapers dot. You can measure that with a ruler.
This is really helpful Noel, i weigh rough 6foot 1 and 180 and ride both medium and large, should what large fins would you recommend for small waves.
Alex Boutilier For your weight I would go with a Large set and a ride number of 6-8 on flex in futures. Jack Freestone Genrations and FCS2 I would Kolohe Andino Large.
I'm a little stuck with fins, I've been riding futures up to the point and pretty comfortable with the ride number system and love the blackstix fins in small stuff,
I normally go custom but just bought a Chilli Churro off the rack for summer beach break kinda waves but it has Fc 2 plugs, what fin would you recommend similar to the blackstix for speed generation ?
Simon Chadwick MF NEO Carbon If you want a fin with rake or Performers in NEO Glass for more pivot beach breaks or boards with low rocker.
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Hi Noel, I’m a bit confused by the term drive. I always thought it describes the ability of carrying speed through turns and the stability, since I’ve mostly seen it in descriptions for good wave fins and step ups. You seem to be using drive in terms of generating speed through pumping? Cheers
Drive to me is gaining speed through turns. When I put the board on rail and feel resistance from using the rail and fins then I can push hard through my turns and the board squirts with speed coming out of turns.
Currently using Futures Stamps on my CI Hoglet, great board and love the Stamps, can really feel the drive/spring on my turns. Just picked up the Waterhog (7' 10") which so far is really sweet, for its size you can feel that it has drive. Any thoughts on fin size there, using the standard Thermotech AM1, but thoughts on some added "secret sauce" for the Waterhog; I am same size as you Noel.
Augustus Cesar I would put a Large fin in that board... AM2’s would go good. With that bigger board the Large fins will give even more speed. The AM2’s have a small center fin too so they will keep the board loose and responsive.
Thanks for the quick response, I'll check them out, and report back...
Hi Noel,
Great info.
What do you suggest for a 190lb surfer?
There are very few options for XL fins
Peta Rae A Large fin is good... if you want more drive out of your Large Fins then get a set with more Rake and keep the board loose with a Medium center fin on small days.
Im 5'7 and weight about 145. I ony have one fin, a jordy smal. It feels good when it gets bigger, but in small surf I feel that it lacks some of that tracktion and speed. I was thinking on buying a HS2 future fin medium size, for the smaller waves. Do you think its a good idea?
Jlevorin The HS2 is pretty upright so it will pivot good. You should be good... check to see if that set comes with a smaller center fin. If not then throw your Jordy small center fin if you need too. I think those fins are going to go good for you.
Now how does the tail shape of your board works with different sizes of fins?
I can put raked large fins on a step up but that thing just wants to go down the line anyway... not to mention the speed I would have from bigger waves, so riding large fins on a step up would be not very helpful..
Then I visualise how it would be impractical as well to put larger fins on round pins in boards for small to medium surf. You do want the sensitivity with the round pin but large fins would counteract that.
So from my understanding larger fins make sense in boards with squash tails and wider tails...
Can you comment on that and put some feedback you had using different boards and fins?
Stevan Wouthuijsen You are correct about using a Large fin on bigger waves and certain tails. I have a 5’11” pin tail (CI Black Beauty) and when I ride that board I use a Medium Size fin. A Large fin would create too much lift in the tail and disengage the rail at high speeds. The Medium fin will work in conjunction with the pulled in pin tail and help me control the speed and keep that tail and rails in the water for precise turns on big waves.
I would never choose a pin tail for small waves... too tight and no drive because a pin tail does not have much surface area. The pin tail is used to control speed and grip the wave.
However I do like a Round tail on a small wave board or better said a Thumb tail. Great speed in turns and little more traction compared to a Squash tail.
@surfnshowreviews Always great info Noel. I have a Pyzalien 2 running the H4 fins in medium. It’s a step up board and those fins have been great with it. However I love the board but it’s a little big with too much volume for medium sized days. So I picked up another Pyzalien 2 with less volume but it’s in the futures fin system. Now I’m wondering what fins to run with it since the H4’s are FCS only. I was looking at a pivot fin like the P6 but am thinking maybe the John John Florence Alphas would be a good balance. I’m 5’5” and 160lbs what say ye?
Check out my 5 fin set here. They go mental…
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@@surfnshowreviews7777 Right on I’ll check’em out, thanks! 🤙🏾
I find the Future system much easier to help us choosing the right fins, the FCS system is really strange to pick up the right fins, FCS should have a speed generation category. Also one thing that would be great from you is to talk about how a surfboard design affect your fin selection (tail width, shape etc...). What s your go to fin for 2 to 4 foot beach break in FCS for max speed down the line and out of turn ?
Mat R Agreed... FCS needs to flex test their constructions. My go to fin for quick beach break would be Large PCC Reactors. If the Beach Break is more lined up and I want focus on carving and pivot then Large PC or PCC Performers.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel, I m having some issues on a new EPS board, Stacey Wave Slave 6'0 32.7L ( im 185 pounds), I used large performer neo glass, just can t get the board to generate speed when pumping, feels like there s a break. It s making me crazy, board is super easy to surf, get in the waves, turn but speed is an issue. I rarely fell that. Any tips ?
Mat R Are you shredding it as a Quad?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 It s a thruster set up only ! staceymfg.com/products/wave-slave-og-phantom-phlex-eps
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I had a go today using the PC reactor Medium of a friend, the board fell like it was unlocked ! but it was closing out super quickly so I will try another time but the fins fell much much faster from take off and it released so quickly. I never surfed those fins before, promising
Hi Noel,
I am 140lbs riding a 5’8 x 20.75 x 2.50 with 33.26L. I was advised to ride my board in a quad setup from a surfer who owns the same board and is the same weight as I am. What fin size/model would you recommend?
LavantoOfficial Ask your friend... sounds like he knows a good combo already?
Surf n Show Reviews, First off i wanted to thank you for always uploading such helpful content for us gear fiends :) I was also hoping you could help me - I just had a new board shaped/picked up and this time around i had him throw a wide-round tail on the usual shortboard shape that i order (5'11x19 1/4x2 3/8) The board goes good, love the shape but the back end is noticably stiff and feels kind of neutral or dead compared to the normal lively feeling of my typical squash tail thruster. I use the Kolohe mediums on all my boards. Any suggestions? Do you think a different set of fins might put some spark in her? thank you for your time!
Chaseracer Stoked you like our show!!! The extra wide tail need a large fin for sure. It will more drive and to spice it up a little maybe go with a more upright fin so it pivots faster. I like the Haydenshapes Generation fins or you can go neutral with the rake and try the Jack Freestone fins too. How much do you weigh?
Surf n Show Reviews thank you for the quick reply! Regarding the tail template - its not exactly a super wide groveler style round tail and its also not a traditional pulled in rounded pin - kind of an in between if that makes sense. This board has FCS2 plugs so Im kind of limited there...I weigh 175-180 and would say an intermediate surfer, I can surf a wave top to bottom but Im not hucking full rotation air reverses either :) The Kolohe Andino template has been my go-to fins on all my boards. I surf Uppers/lowers/creek and state park. I really appreciate your help and you sharing your wealth of knowledge and experience.
Chaseracer Get the KA Large... hands down the best fins for the waves your surfing. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews - I just stopped by Usedsurf.com and grabbed some demo sets. Im hesitant to plug a set of larger fins in a board that im trying to loosen up but i trust your advise man! thx again hope to see you out there one day
Chaseracer Sounds good... let me know how it goes. Take a medium or smaller center fin down to the beach with you if the Large set feels a bit tight. A smaller center fin with Large side fins could be magic in that board. Cheers
Hey Noel, great video was actually just about to order some large fins in but will now use the smaller centre fin combined with the large outer for sure 🤙🏼 also is that a Ghost you've got under the fins, if so are you doing a review on it?
Trystan Lloyd Yes that is a Ghost... that review will drop soon... we need some waves!!!
I have the Ghost, it’s sick. Look forward to your review on it!
I'm looking for some fins for the Pyzel Gremlin Swallow tail. I'm 5'5" and 135lbs and surf punchy beach breaks/softer beach breaks in the Bay Area in the 1-5 foot range. The board came with the Pyzel Paddillac fins, but these feel slow and not very lively. I'm looking for more speed and looseness and was wondering if you had any recommendations?
I was thinking the EA Blacksticks potentially. Thanks!!
If you want it loose check out the medium Stretch Quads
Hey Noel, Good to see more on fins rather than just boards. I've been looking into switching fins up on my Hypto Krypto to make it loose on smaller waves but without sacrificing drive and speed. Do you have any suggests for me? I'm 5'6 138lbs and board uses FCS. I currently have Medium Reactors but not happy with those. Hypto has pinney tail so was thinking of going smaller to loosen board? would that be bad move? Any help much appreciated! Thanks!
MrDavebrit I say grab a Medium set of KA and use a small center fin. It will have drive and be responsive.
Surf n Show Reviews Thanks Noel! I’ll give it a try and update results!
Noel loving the advice, but I want to clarify: if you ride bigger fins in smaller waves should you ride smaller fins in bigger waves? Or does it mostly come down to fin template and stiffness? I’m only 120lbs so I’ve been riding smalls.
In bigger surf you want to manage speed so riding a smaller fin will help you do that. If you are riding small fins and they feel good then stick with it. If your looking for a little drive in smaller waves then maybe put in Medium side fins and keep the small center fin to keep the board loose and playful. In overhead surf I suggest staying with a small fin size
@@surfnshowreviews7777 you’re the best thank you for the sage advice!
I’m 72kg and looking to change up my size fins. I ride the AM medium fins in both future and fcs. When stepping up to a large fin what would you recommend in a quad set up? Could I use a large AM and then a medium carver fin? Cheers love your work.
Scott Hamilton You could mix up your fins like that. Sometimes I like a fin the AM on the sides and a upright quad rear set. Mix things up a bit and experiment. Remember sometimes one set of fins work epic in 1 board but aren’t epic in every board.
Ok that makes sense using the quad rear rather then a normal medium fin as the quad rears. Cheers again for your help
Hi Noel! i weight 175lbs and i have a pyzel phantom (bought it after your review. but i have a doubt about fins. I have FCS2 Matt Biolos on Medium (reactor family and PCC) carver on large (NeoGlass) and soon kolohe andino on large. Which of this fins you recommend me to use for small waves and which ones in big ones? thanks for all the info, i have learned a lot from you!
Kilohertz fins in bigger surf... if those don’t offer enough hold get the Mick Fanning fins in PC.
For smaller waves you can go Performers or Reactors.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks!
Hi Noel. What’s the best fin box in your opinion? Getting a ci sampler soon and need to inform the shop manager which one it is that I want. Thank you.
Imran Esack I like Futures boxes better... there are more affordable fin options like Naked Viking Fins, Captain Fins, and True Aims to buy from besides Futures. The FCSII plugs are good but limited fin options and really only 1 company to buy from.
Surf n Show Reviews great thank you 🤙🏽
Good video. As you know, sometimes we have different sets of fins that we bought before having all the information and don't always match the ideal setup. But we'd still like to use them so I wanted to ask if it's ok to mix fins of the same shape but different flex.
For instance, to have more speed on smaller and less powerful waves, I'd like to increase the size of my fins from M to L and from FCS Performance Core construction (mid flex) to FCS Neo Glass construction (highest flex) even though I'm 150 lbs. However, I'd still like to use a size M center fin with the new L more flexible side fins as recommended in the video, but to do that I'd have to mix the new high flex L Neo Glass side fins with the mid flex Performance Core M center fin. Do you think that works or do the fins have to have the same flex?
You can definitely mix and match the fins and flex too.
Hi Noel. In relation to the fins you discussed in the vlog where does the Dion Agius fall in to the picture? Thanks
Not sure I understand your question? Are you talking about the Raven surfboard.... Dion Agius pro model? Please be very specific on your question.... I have not watched this Vlog in a couple years
@@surfnshowreviews7777 apologies. I’m referring to the captain fin, dion Aguis fins. The ones with the flower print.
Hey coach ! Patreon member here :)
I recently got the Untitled V2 board, but it seems to be kinda sluggish some times, especially when I place my foot near the tail pad.
I still can't figure out if it's a fin problem ? or due to the aggressive tail rocker ? I weigh 140 lbs and ride it with the jjf alpha fins medium size (neutral template ). I know you recommend on going on a Large size, but what fin type should I go for or try out ?
If the waves are smaller 1-4’ surf then try a Twin + Trailer on that board. Maybe try the T1’s in Future.
For a Thruster set I recommend my neutral template… check them out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-neutral-thruster-set
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks a lot for the help coach ! 😀
Hi Noel, my weight is 65kg I surf in a wetsuit 3/2 or 4/3 wetsuit and ride shortboards with roughly 24 liters, i currently use the fcs2 kolohe fins in small but i'm looking for more drive in weaker surf should i get a set of mediums or go up to large? thanks
Andrew Raven Grab a set of Mediums for sure... I would get the KA Mediums and if your board feels a little tight then I would put the Small KA Center fin back in and it will go Sick.
Hi Noel, the bigger side fins made all the difference, so much drive! Thanks for the great advice
Hi Noel !! I loved your video, just as good as the rest !! I have a question in the wake of seeing your video. I've been surfing for 20 years and I weigh 165lb. I usually surf waves between 1 to 4 feet in the area where I live. I just bought a Dominator 2 in 5´8 ". I have Matt Biolos thruster fins in M. Should I think about buying L size fins? Which ones would you recommend? Thanks in advance
It sounds like you could benefit from a fin with a large base and medium fin depth. This will offer maximum drive through turns from the large base, and the fins won’t make the board feel tight due to the fins not going too deep into the water. Check out these fins.... www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you very much for the reply!! The problem is that I live in Spain and the shipping costs and customs costs make them go over the price !! But I write down the advice to try some L fins in the future !!
@@ugary4837 Try Jordy’s new fins in size Large
Hi noel, i am 179lb, 180lb, i am looking for speed because i usually dont surf big waves, but i want a set of fins that i could use them also if there is big waves, the am1 homeycomb, or the f6 alpha? Or i should go for larger fins? In that case what do u recommend? Thank you. (I am from argentina so when i refer to big waves i am talking about 7ft , 8ft )
Ignacio Colo AM2 Honeycomb
Surf n Show Reviews thank you!!
hey noel .
i know you prefer large .
i am 143 lbs. the safe way to go is medium / large ?
and wanted to ask your input on toledo fins vs kolohe .
thanks master
djpipe1 For your weight I would go Medium. The F.T. Fins are lighter and stiffer compared to the KA fins. The Filipe fins are better in more powerful waves. I like the KA fins more for day to day surfing.
Hey Noel . So I bought a fever ! 5.9 .very happy it went so fast the only session i had so far . I am 145 pounds and they offered me at the shop on a good price the fcs2 fw fin medium fin . Wanted to ask your take on that fin if you maybe heard/ tried.
Thanks !
djpipe1 For 4-6+ I like the AL Merrick fin and for smaller waves I like the Kolohe Andino fins. The KA fins will hold in bigger surf so I would get those.
Surf n Show Reviews will get'em ! Tnx
Noel , The didnt have the k.a fins at medium so i went for the fanning fin cause i saw your good review . Hope its a right call ! Disnt open'em yet . Good call ?
djpipe1 The MF fins are epic but after riding the KA in more average days I really like the MF when the waves get a little bigger.... 4-8’+ surf. I like the KA fins in 1-6’ surf. It just depends if these fins are going to be your daily drivers... if so then take back the MF and go find the KA. Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews i got you . They dont have it in medium here . They have medina , julian , js , performer accelerator and the rest of the standad models . I surf mostly 2-4 foot beach breaks . What can be my go to ? Thanks . Appriciate your replies :)
Hey Noel!! I just order a new board, a 5´4 (35l) Lost Bean Bag for small and groovler days.. but i dont know what fins use with this board..people told me that is better to use size L with this board.. I´m 5´6 and 163lb. what fins do you recomend me?? for tri and quad please. Thank u so much!!
David Areitio I recommend a Large fin too. In FCSII I say Reactors size Large Thruster paired with Medium Reactor Quad Rears. Futures I recommend the Pyzel 5 fin set size Large.
Thanks Noel!!👍
I forgot to ask: have you tried increasing from M to L on a quad setup? The quad setup itself is supposed to give more speed so wouldn't it be overkill to switch setup and size? And with the idea of mixing and matching what we have, do you think in case you put two L fins in the front in a quad configuration, we could use Mediums in the back without having to buy a new complete Quad set? In other words, how similar are back quad fins to the smaller size of the equivalent front fins if that makes sense?
You can mix side fins and quad rears to get the feel you want in a board.
Sometimes Large side fins can make a board feel tight and sluggish with Medium Quad Rears. I highly recommend using Medium side fins and Medium Pivot Quad Rears. If you don’t like the way the board feels then change the side fins with different templates (raked /neutral / pivot templates) I always use a Medium Pivot Quad Rear to enhance pivot because that’s what Quads lack without the center fin compared to a Thruster.
Check out my personal favorite 5 fin set here. They are unique by design. They go mental in every board I put them in.
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Cool, just to make sure I follow: let's say you have a board with 5 boxes so you could use a tri or quad setup. According to this video, if you were using a tri fin setup you'd go for size Large side fins and a size Medium center fin.
Now, if you were to take the same board for the same conditions but with a quad setup, you wouldn't use size Large side fins with size Medium rears (so follow the same philosophy as with the tri setup), but you would use all size Mediums instead (with the rears being pivot templates to improve your pivot as you say)? And you would do this be because the four fins and the lack of a center one already generate enough speed so that you don't need the Larges to create speed?
Cheers!
@@dlangpap Correct… large side fins might be overkill as a quad because you have so much fin in the water. It will make the board tight and harder to turn compared to running medium side fins and medium Quad rears
Great video mate, could you recommend a large thruster setup for a 5'4 super brand fling please?
Stefan G Futures or FCS2
Stefan G Have you ridden the board yet?
Yeh I have ridden the board using a medium fsc 2 channel islands am which work fine but looking to experiment with some new fins and like the sound of your idea of a large fin for more drive on smaller surf etc. Im 165lbs and mainly use the board for 1-3ft
Stefan G I love the Kolohe Andino fins. Get those... in size Large.
Will do! Thanks a lot
Hey. I know this video is old, but here goes. I really like my large JJF red tips in my Subdriver with Futures. I’m 180, 5’8 lower intermediate (51 y.o.) I surf mostly beach breaks in the LA area. But I’ve got a 6’4 Monsta Box in Hyfy that just feels a bit too responsive right now. Any ideas on a stiffer fin toning it down a bit until I get a better handle on the board? It’s FCS 2. I’ve got the MF’s in there right now. It works great, but sometimes it feels a bit squirrelly. Would the Pyzel be similar to the JJF’s? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all you do.
Are you riding the MF Large fins?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Yes.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 When the waves are clean the MFs are great. I also use the MR twin plus trailers. Both feel magical. But when there’s some texture or bumps on the wave, I’d like something that feels a bit “sturdier,” if that makes sense.
@@h.peterzimmer883 I’m not sure there is something more sturdy than the L MF’s.
Maybe check out the Carvers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much for taking the time to consider my question. I think I just needed time to get used to the board/ fin combo after switching around too much. After giving it a few more sessions, the MFs feel fine. Just really different from the feeling I have with my PU board/ JJF fins. Thanks again. Wish you continued success with the channel. 🙏
What s your opinion on bigger surfer like 185 190 who prefers to surf medium fins over large in smaller waves. I hear different things, you like to ride large fins for more drive but those guys consider that in small surf medium fins feel more lively, causing less drag and better release also saying that if you have carbon fins for example, stiffer, large fins dont feel good and they go medium. Does it has to do with the wave type ? Also hearing that in bigger wave you need less fin area if you use a round tail / longer board when other think that in bigger wave you need bigger fins for more hold.
Mat R I get the less drag feel and more maneuverability on a Medium fins for sure. However pushing hard off bottom turns and big carves I personally like a wide base that seems to offer more resistance so I can push harder to generate more speed. On bigger waves with certain boards I like a Medium fin to keep the rails engaged.through turns for more control... now it’s not about more speed it’s about control. Construction on fins... I am now liking fiberglass a bit more for consistency and predictability. I still like Honeycomb too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Make sense man, so if you are someone who doesnt push hard on turn maybe medium fins in some cases can be beneficial even thou you are bigger. It s interesting.
Hi Noel, I am riding a NB2 in 1-5ft and weigh 150-155lbs (68-70kg). Looking at the FCS2 KA fins... should I go Medium, Large or Large sides with Medium centre fin? Thanks
You can go Medium Kolohe fins with the NB2... the NB2 carries a lot of speed on its own
@@surfnshowreviews7777 cool, thanks.... makes sense. Out of interest would you say the same (KA mediums) for the Cabianca "The Medina"?
@@TerrilWinters Yes
@@TerrilWinters I might go Large KA fins on the Medina.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 great, thanks for your input... much appreciated!
Wow i thought large fins were taboo for small guys....been riding dominator quad setup long time with slater k2.1 and G-XQ as rear...im intermediate 140 to 135 and will be riding the new dominator 2.0 at 5 8 i dont like going too short on boards even if the volume is the same.mainly paddling feels sluggish with shorter boards...i have the machado seaside fins and was planning on doing a 2+1 using the large front seaside ones with a single G-XQ. sound any good ...any advice... id love to be more loose for carves and still have speed. NJ waves mushy sometimes punchy at 3 to 4
FCSII or Futures
@@surfnshowreviews7777 fcs 2
@@surfnshowreviews7777 seaside fins with a small trailer should be fun thanks